[Goanet] May I request a conclusion to the Aspartame debate.

2010-10-19 Thread J. Colaco < jc>
Dears,

Personally speaking, I have learned a lot from this debate.

Allow me to summarise:

1: Aspartame is not a medication required for the treatment of any
disease process (as of yet).
2: Aspartame is not a prescription substance.
3: Certain individuals (i.e. with PKU) should not be using Aspartame.
4: In regular usage, it has been deemed to be safe.
5: Even so, it is a substance of choice. Nobody forces anybody to take
it. Some individuals with diabetes or with obesity choose to add
Aspartame instead of sugar as a sweetener to (say) their coffee,
others do not bother with either.
6: Those who have concerns about Aspartame should not use it. Some
have concerns about the about the amount of insecticide on fruits and
vegetables. They might well choose to eat chicken replete with
antibiotics and hormones or fish from the heavy-metal contaminated
waters around.
7: Even Love and Fresh Air have their side-effects especially in
places like Karnataka and Bihar.
8: If some doctors believe that they have a duty to advise their
clients re: what they (the doctors) believe to be the truth, they
should do so.
9: Modern patients are quite savvy. They check and double chec

10: When a semi-layman like me is presented with information like the
one I have been reading, I normally turn to Snopes to sift out the
Methi from the Myth.

http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/aspartame.asp

11: Sometimes, these frenetic claims were true some time ago but
no longer are (as the formulations have been changed - but the chain
letters have not bothered to update themselves).

http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/ppa.asp

12: If however, we are interested in discussing the technical side of
matters, I suggest that we first (a) familiarise ourselves with the
technology (b) decipher how modern science agrees to accept/publish
research papers (c) go right to the source of the studies or
publicationsand not to some blogs.before we splash ourselves
on the www.

have a good one

jc


Re: [Goanet] Science of Manipulations

2010-10-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
Bosco has already pointed out how misinformation regarding aspartame is being 
spread in this thread through bogus websites. Interspersed below I correct all 
the false statements made by Ferdinando, some of which involve 
misrepresentations of what I said.

--- On Sun, 10/17/10, Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão  
wrote:
> 
> RESPONSE :The study is not conducted by MIT, but a talk given at MIT by >Paul 
> A. Spiers, whose credentials are below. 
>

The news report from MIT that I had provided clearly states that the study was 
conducted at MIT. Here is the quote:

"The study was conducted at MIT's CRC. Electro-encephalograms were done at the 
Beth Israel-Deaconess Medical Center in Boston."

Please see - http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/1998/aspartame-0916.html

The paper published by Spiers in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 
also states this clearly. Here is an excerpt from the abstract displayed on the 
journal website:

QUOTE
Aspartame: neuropsychologic and neurophysiologic evaluation of acute and 
chronic effects
PA Spiers, L Sabounjian, A Reiner, DK Myers, J Wurtman and DL Schomer
Clinical Research Center, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge 
02139, USA. 
UNQUOTE

Please see - 
http://www.ajcn.org.ezproxyhost.library.tmc.edu/cgi/content/abstract/68/3/531


> 
> http://www.dorway.com/upipart1.html     
>

This a well-known untrustworthy aspartame activism website that makes dubious 
claims against science and scientists.            

> 
> 1- That there is no smoke without fire, that there is certainly >something 
> wrong with Aspartame.       
> 

Bosco and I have shown that the smoke created on Goanet regarding aspartame is 
simply foul smelling exhaust from dubious websites.                 
> 
> 2- That Aspartame is a derivative of genetically modified E.Coli and
> not chemically synthesised as stated by Santosh. 
>

Authentic information provided by responsible sources state that aspartame is 
chemically synthesized from the naturally occurring essential amino acids 
L-aspartate and L-phenylalanine. The raw materials for its synthesis, namely 
the said amino acids are obtained by fermentation using two strains of harmless 
bacteria, B. flavum and C. glutamicum, just as dairy yogurt is produced by the 
fermentation of milk by bacteria called L. delbrueckii and S. salivarius.

> 
> 3- That Aspartame is composed of three chemicals and not two as per
> Santosh’s knowledge.         
>

I did not mention how many chemicals in all were involved in the chemical 
synthesis of aspartame. I only stated the incontrovertible fact that it was 
made from two naturally occurring amino acids. Please see above.
           
> 
> We clinical doctors can only give advice. Whether to heed it or not, is >up 
> to each one. We advise as we know we are dealing with human life and >not 
> experimenting on animals.
> 

Medical doctors, whether they are general practitioners like Ferdinando or 
specialists, are not supposed to provide false information and mislead the 
public through bogus activist propaganda websites. They are supposed to provide 
reliable information from responsible sources such as WHO, Food and 
Agricultural Organization, National Cancer Institute, American Cancer Society, 
European Commission Scientific Committee on Food, etc. All of these 
organizations categorically state that aspartame is safe for human consumption 
as a sugar substitute.

Cheers,

Santosh





[Goanet] NRB West Zone Badminton Championship(25-26 October)......5 days to go

2010-10-19 Thread Sandeep Heble
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1815006&l=8348846909&id=1187066172


Re: [Goanet] TAG to Remember late Rosario Rodrigues

2010-10-19 Thread Francisco Inacio Fernandes

Dear Victor,

We would very much appreciate if you could address late Rosario 
Rodrigues as Dr. Rosario Rodrigues (B.Com;M.Com;Phd.)


Thanks and regards




From: Tiatr Academy Goa

TAG to Remember late Rosario Rodrigues

Tiatr Academy of Goa will organize a special function to observe the
Birth Anniversary of the most popular Khell-tiatrist of Goa late Rosario
Rodrigues on Sunday, 24th October 2010 at 10:00 am at Pai Tiatrist JAF
Auditorium, Ravindra Bhavan, Margao. On this occasion Anil-Olga?s
Popular Khell-Tiatr ?Xim Mer Asonk Zai? will be staged.


Re: [Goanet] Science for sale ...

2010-10-19 Thread Dr . Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão







 

Dr. Gilbert
Lawrence wrote : <……. The question to you, with your 

psychiatric
background: What do we do with difficult cases or what in medicine 

is termed
"resistant subset"?  Is
applying Dilbert's dictum the only solution?


RESPONSE :
Patients with psychoses do not pose a problem, they go into remissions and
relapses. But neurosis patients, specially with personality pattern disorders,
having distorted self-image can be difficult and resistant.  But applying 
Dilbert's dictum is not
the only solution. One can always refer such patients to another crack
scientist; like in the scene below: 
   

A timid person
enters the consulting room of a psychiatrist and says: “Doctor, I have dual
personality.”

Psychiatrist: “Buck
up my child, have your seat; let’s all four sit down and chat.”

 





Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão. 
 

  

[Goanet] Obituary - Annie Julia Pinto (Saligao, Goa)

2010-10-19 Thread Goanet Obit

O B I T U A R Y

Annie Julia Pinto
(Cotula-Saligao, Goa)
Died: 13 October 2010


Widow of the late A.F. Milagres Pinto

Mother/Mother-in-law of Sr. Mary Jane sfn, Manoel/Fatima, Dr Leo/Edna, 
Hilda/Jules, Tony/late Susan


Grandmother of Kareena, Shawn/Grace, Shimona/Kevin, Jacqueline/Jay, 
Jeanette/Dermit, Dr Herman, Hubert, Julie/Sebastian, and Leon


Great grandmother of Owen, Natalie, Vanessa, Isabella, Jeremy & Jessica
and her Great Grand-children

Interred on Sunday, October 17th, 2010


Goanet Obit


[Goanet] Piracy

2010-10-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Piracy
 
What’s piracy?
In simple words, it a theft or robbery
Includes  unauthorized usage of material from the net, books,
DVDs etc etc
 
The rule is,
you are a thief if you steal something no matter how small.
Even if you take some thing  from the leftover (e.g. dinner table)
which otherwise would go into the  wastage bin
 
Well, you don’t have to be a Pirate of the Caribbean or for that 
matter Pirate of Somali.
As  ‘youtuber’ like me, one can be a pirate knowingly or 
unknowingly, intentionally or unintentionally, with clean mind or 
with dirty mind etc
 
Youtube has such a programe/software that  can almost instantly 
scan Your uploaded video contents for matching Ids or contents that 
belongs to third party or simply pirated.
 
When I got a notification from you tube saying that my ‘Utorda Clip’
has a problem, I said to myself  ‘what I have done now?’

At one time, I even doubted ‘Uttordd’ddekars’
Why some one will do this to me?
Was the programe there owned by someone as in  some Goan bands?
I was only putting them on the world map.. and off course, 
providing a bit of entertainment..

Later on,  I discovered  I was wrong to blame anyone.
It was the ‘sound track’ in tune with which the youngster were 
dancing on stage belongs to the third party (e.g. record Company)
 
Similarly, a clip that I captured  in 2006 on board Sunset Cruise 
too has a problem
 
The most recent one being ‘Lord of Pearls’ Sept.2010
 
Even if your video contents  or the sound track is of just a 
few second or even if it is of dead low volume eg. music playing 
in the background which you may not even aware of etc  it can still 
be detected  and you are notified instantly.
 
See, one can still be a pirate innocently 
 
Talking about the Piracy that reminds me of  a VCD promo
Title ‘Piracy’ which itself had contents belonging to a third party
 
See, what I mean?
 
Following is a selection
and may  vanish if the owner complains
 
Utorda
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ooi5e2bZso

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5HTNGVmZBc
 
Salsa dance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXNNTmTn2K4

Cashewnuts lord
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3X9bZcm4w1E

2010 Lord of Pearl
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg54Nib-3OE
 
2006 dancing onboard
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRrPjRXyQjc
 
I have about 14 of such problematic clips 
Plus 2 were  removed 
(not by me but by a Goan Band Purple Rain, a clip that was 
captured during carnival panjim market  Feb. 2009).
 
Those are not into internet or those are fairly new to internet, 
there seems  to be  a trend or a wrong notion amongst them..
If anyone finds out there are some konkani clips on the net 
pirated  directly from Konkani VCD,  for them, the pirate is none 
other than the JoeGoaUk himself.
'JoeGoaUK' reminds them of internet, that's why.

JoeGoaUK may be the first to promote Konkani video on the net but 
he definitely has no dirty mind particulaly when it comes to our 
own Goa or Konkani.  In other words, he is not a hypocrite.

'If Calling a thief a thief really hurts the thief, how much it 
would hurt someone who is not really a thief?

to continue...in Part II 





[Goanet] Govt to start Bimbvel land Vasco acquisition for Navy sans urgency clause

2010-10-19 Thread Venantius J Pinto
If I am not mistaken our family (ancestral family) lost land in Nerul to the
Navy. I believe it was 50 paisa per sq yard. Lots of people were in on this.
Now they are lawyers, etc. One was on Goanet a long time back. Life is so
funny--as time goes by we do not need others to do us in.

Or in more colorful language:
Sant mhane santinila ubhya ubhya zavu.
Saant mhuno santinink ubhem ubhem zouvea/zonvouya/zounya**. (Konk)


**Correct this spelling anyone! Or provide conjugation, Hanv z, Tum z,
To/ti/tem z...Ami, tumi, te .
Sooner than later my Konknni comic strip will begin with this conjugation.
The other panel will be on the word patki (sinner).


venantius j pinto

Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 09:52:19 +0800
> From: roger dsouza 
> Subject: [Goanet] Govt to start Bimbvel land Vasco acquisition for
>Navy sans   urgency clause
>
>
> It?s down-right shocking how the Government of Goa goes about acquiring
> huge
> tracts of land for Tom, Dick and Harry including it?s own Ministers and
> whoever and his dog that demands it.

(del)
>


[Goanet] Message 9,dated today, Obama's visit to Mumbai and Shivsenas Fascism.

2010-10-19 Thread damodar vinayak bale
  Respected Editor,
This letter by Mr.Jorge Desouza of Mumbai is really detailed summary
  of the democracy of nation named "INDIA i.e.BHARAT".Acyually it was the 
mischief played by the former rulers.Partition was not at all favoured even by 
Mahatma Gandhi.But the cunning nature of the former rulers managed to serve the 
ends.Results are certainly seen now.
The newly formed nation,Pakistan had military rule for most of the time and 
the main land India continuing still with illiterate voters.
Human values are totally lost.The illiterate politicians are expoiting the 
sentiments of poor voters with any subject.OBAMA perhaps,
realises the problems as the Americans have won their independence by fighting 
against the British rule.
INDIA i.e.BHARAT has almost all the world religions and languages.
There was no religion for this nation.They followed a particular way of 
living.So culturally all the states are thoroughly united and the language of 
culture was the language of "GITA".
The 'tolarent' nature of this nation definitely differed from the 
'fighter'nature of the American people. OBAMA surely realises that.As he fights 
still for Human Values.
So shall we foresee some changes with OBAMA visit to this nation?
With best regards,
Shyam V.Bale,
East Brunswick,New Jersy,USA.
 


[Goanet] ALEXYZ Daily Cartoon (20Oct10)

2010-10-19 Thread alexyz fernandes

** TOURISM: Goa to Follow Singapore **

"...And in Singapore you're Fined if you throw a speck of Dirt Out!"

"...And in Goa it's Fine to throw a Bucket of it!"


To enjoy the visual cartoon please visit: www.alexyztoons.com
Site sponsored by www.goasudharop.org


[Goanet] Goa news for October 20, 2010

2010-10-19 Thread Goanet News Service
Goa News from Google News and Goanet.org
Visit http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php for the full stories.

*** Sesa Goa keen on renewing Orissa mining pact - Economic
Times
ased Ahluwalia family to renew a mining agreement that will
enable ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHLXnUWCv1egU5dYDFxk9int9ODoA&url=http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/indl-goods-/-svs/metals--mining/Sesa-Goa-keen-on-renewing-Orissa-mining-pact/articleshow/6777562.cms

*** Karnataka fail to advance - Deccan Herald
6-ball-77-wins-it-for-tamil-nadu/216230.html">Anirudha's 46-ball
77 wins it for Tamil Nadu
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNHEVurLt6Y4hQiz1sqLxHHByuCIXw&url=http://www.deccanherald.com/content/105890/karnataka-fail-advance.html

*** 'ITM-Goa to be annual feature' - Times of India
ay International Travel Mart (ITM-Goa) came to an end on Sunday,
but the government opined that it's just the beginning of the
story for tourism ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNH5EH9XpykCiZVrXjeicwlSiIgw0A&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/ITM-Goa-to-be-annual-feature/articleshow/6771795.cms

*** Bye-election counting on 21 October - digITal Goa
alpoi Bye-elections will begin at 8.00 am in the hall no 1 of
Goa College of Home Science Panaji in hall no 1. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFgDzBR4lQhOBJLBA2gVlV-5AsksQ&url=http://www.digitalgoa.com/ca_disp.php?id=1607

*** Smokers to be under police watch at IFFI in Goa -
IBNLive.com
y-industry/media/entertainment-/entertainment/T-20-of-Indian-cinema-contest-dropped-from-IFFI-2010/articleshow/6768173.cms">T-20
of Indian cinema contest dropped from IFFI 2010
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNG9iG2Z83JJ1CCZc5hVGy-_MHVffg&url=http://ibnlive.in.com/generalnewsfeed/news/smokers-to-be-under-police-watch-at-iffi-in-goa/424884.html

*** State tourism officials head for ITB-Asia - Times of India
Berlin, and it could be tapped as a platform to showcase Goa to
new markets. ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNG4MaMuMDF74-baR9gN9lzNfunFJw&url=http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/State-tourism-officials-head-for-ITB-Asia/articleshow/6771783.cms

*** Sanatan to carry on campaign against glorifying 'Narakasur'
- Hindustan Times
indu-group-now-to-target-narakasur-news-national-kktoaojhhcc.html">Goa
Hindu group now to target Narakasur
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNEZAv2cgaBRmd25tSHE4KXHu-9Otw&url=http://www.hindustantimes.com/Sanatan-to-carry-on-campaign-against-glorifying-Narakasur/Article1-614883.aspx

*** Goa Rescue Case: CBI probe demanded - MorungExpress
rungExpressDimapur 
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGbBuQ7wU95jsgvl7A6cWDoCUzMDQ&url=http://www.morungexpress.com/frontpage/56597.html

*** Biocon, Essar Oil, Reliance, Sesa Goa, Tata Motors: India
Equity Preview - Bloomberg
re exporter's second-quarter profit more than doubled to 3.85
billion rupees in the three months ended Sept. ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNGyvV5Q64cC9t1btcF8h6M5SrqSAQ&url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-19/biocon-essar-oil-reliance-sesa-goa-tata-motors-india-equity-preview.html

*** 'Hippies, bad tourism ministers are poor adverts for Goa' -
Sify
fyLittle wonder that, at a travel fair here, he gunned for
hippies, backpackers and even 'rubbish tourism ministers',
saying they were sullying Goa's image as ...http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&fd=R&usg=AFQjCNFgvL3X8ANK8YwbIMlhQ8j4vbD19Q&url=http://sify.com/finance/hippies-bad-tourism-ministers-are-poor-adverts-for-goa-news-default-kktkakjfigb.html


Compiled by Goanet News Service
http://www.goanet.org/newslinks.php


[Goanet] Of voters, and voting

2010-10-19 Thread Frederick Noronha
"83 per cent vote in Valpoi," this was what the newspaper headlines
screamed in Goa on Tuesday morning (with some little variation).

As a journalist who covered elections in the past, it often struck me
as strange as to how so few seem to be casting their votes in the
morning, while by late evening, the figures invariably pick up to very
impressive totals. For their part, the government agencies do a good
job of making sure that media attention gets focussed on the
arithmetical issues at the micro level rather than macro questions.

Looking at Valpoi, one would think that the politician(s) involved
were great statesmen. Or even that it was a very polarised election.

Would anyone there have an insight into how such high numbers get
reported, after almost every election in Goa? Is this statistically
possible, assuming that there will be some percentage of disinterested
voters, some who are not present, and others who might  not support
one or the other alternatives "offered" to the voter?

This is not an issue of Valpoi alone, but of most constituencies. (In
Valpoi's case, we are told that the Murmune booth recorded 93.3%
voting! The "lowest" was at Valpoi itself, with a high "low" of
64.37%). 
http://oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Page%20News/83-per-cent-vote-in-Valpoi/42079.html

Agreed that the poor vote more than the rich in India, a situation
quite different from that, say, in the US. But if you looked at the
voting percentages in Goa, you could easily come to the conclusion
that there is hardly any voter disenchantment or indifference here!
Which is hardly the situation...

See some background here:
http://oheraldo.in/news/Main%20Page%20News/83-per-cent-vote-in-Valpoi/42079.html

FN

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490


Re: [Goanet] Democracy attains a new low in India

2010-10-19 Thread manuel tavares

Dear Floriano,

These are very salient points and you have my full support in your efforts 
to bring some semblance of the democratic principals of Government being of 
the people for the people and by the people. I hope that every Goan who has 
the well being of Goa at heart turns up and lends their support to the 
movement  by turning up for the gathering on December 19 2010, and that on 
election day, they all turn up to vote (THIS MUST BE STRESSED AS IMPERATIVE 
TO OUR SUCCESS) and throw out the corrupt and selfish people who are 
currently in power in Goa. A movement which engulfs all well meaning Goans 
surely must prevail against an autocratic and corrupt lot who are bent upon 
enriching themselves at the expense of Goa and Goans. I humbly suggest that 
as in the U.S. and Canada, persons who are elected to office declare their 
Assets and liabilities and those of their closest relatives on assuming 
office and on relinquishing office in order to achieve transparency. This is 
important as any discrepancies discovered on relinquishing office must be 
explained. Any unexplained or fraudulent or wishy washy transactions must be 
investigated and if necessary the individual must be prosecuted in order to 
dissuade future electees from indulging in dubious transactions.


Wishing you every success on December 19 2010.

RegardsManuel (Eddie) Tavares.



- Original Message - 
From: "floriano" 

To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" 
Cc: "manuel tavares" 
Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2010 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Goanet] Democracy attains a new low in India



Dear Manuel,

Your post has wound  me up to do what I promised to do.
Therefore, here it is.

1. Goa 'NEEDS' a Political Solution.
2. This Political Solution must be spelt out first so that it is swallowed
'bait-hook & sinker' style by the People of Goa who seem to be fed-up of
this MESS.
3. As an alternative  to all existing Political Parties, Goa needs to 
field

all 40 candidates who have never been elected before... aka fresh faces.
4. It does not matter if they are Saints or Devils. The Political System
which will be spelt out will not allow itself to be bent or marginalized.
Therefore, the Devils will fly into outer space leaving Saints and mostly
hypocrite Saints  to be dealt with.
5. Before too long, Goa needs a massive  people's MOVEMENT which can 
safely

swallow their pride and come to terms that Goa requires 'political sanity'
like 'yesterday'
6. This massive MOVEMENT of the people must be like the movement we have
seen in the past on 18 December, 2006 at Azad Maidan... the GBA Movement.
7. The closest date for this MOVEMENT to take shape is 19 December, 2010 
as

there is not much time left until the next elections in 2012 or earlier.
8. This MOVEMENT must have a charismatic MASCOT where the people will 
leave
everything and just flock in numbers and nod their heads, a mascot that 
will

remain the mascot until the end of the MOVEMENT, no matter what, and no
matter who tries to pull it down.
9.Immediately after the 19 December 2010 , there must be a full-fledged
CONVENTION of the people with invited DELEGATES et al.
10. All of  Goa's political Parties must be invited for this CONVENTION to
give their PARTY PRESENTATIONS,  warning them that their survival in Goan
Politics henceforth will depend on this  PRESENTATION,.
11. The CONVENTION shall deliberate for one or more days (if necessary) 
and

come out with its finding before the CONVENTION  is closed as to which
political party in Goa it will support OR if it will go ahead and take the
job of doing the necessary by itself at  the next elections  with all 40
candidates.
12. If this be the case, a very very strong signal will have been sent to
the people of Goa that they can now expect a real change. That is because
one or two well meaning and self-less persons cannot clean the ROT and 
there

are chances that the ROT  will engulf them too. With all 40 in the fray,
chances are that there could be a chance to get absolute majority, to say
good-bye to blackmailing coalition politics which only works for itself 
and

for their kin and friends.
13. Those who get elected shall be controled by this people's MOVEMENT on
the basis of the  blue-prints which has been accepted by the people ---
which by-the-way will be the ' SYSTEM OF FUTURE GOVERNANCE OF GOA'. The
recalcitrants shall not only be dropped like hot potatoes but also be 
shamed

and blacklisted for life.
14. The 'No Second Term' which will be enforced with an iron hand shall 
see

to it that vote-bank politics will vanish in thin air for once from the
sacred Goan soil.
15. Soon after the Convention - the MOVEMENT  shall identify and bring in
people who will take the lead (for once) ...  who have been long time
activist for 'good-effective-governance'. These people should come forward
automatically  to say 'yes, I am ready to contest'  if the MOVEMENT wants
and if they do not want to be considered 'hypocrites'. The fina

Re: [Goanet] Democracy attains a new low in India

2010-10-19 Thread floriano

Dear Manuel,

Your post has wound  me up to do what I promised to do.
Therefore, here it is.

1. Goa 'NEEDS' a Political Solution.
2. This Political Solution must be spelt out first so that it is swallowed
'bait-hook & sinker' style by the People of Goa who seem to be fed-up of
this MESS.
3. As an alternative  to all existing Political Parties, Goa needs to field
all 40 candidates who have never been elected before... aka fresh faces.
4. It does not matter if they are Saints or Devils. The Political System
which will be spelt out will not allow itself to be bent or marginalized.
Therefore, the Devils will fly into outer space leaving Saints and mostly
hypocrite Saints  to be dealt with.
5. Before too long, Goa needs a massive  people's MOVEMENT which can safely
swallow their pride and come to terms that Goa requires 'political sanity'
like 'yesterday'
6. This massive MOVEMENT of the people must be like the movement we have
seen in the past on 18 December, 2006 at Azad Maidan... the GBA Movement.
7. The closest date for this MOVEMENT to take shape is 19 December, 2010 as
there is not much time left until the next elections in 2012 or earlier.
8. This MOVEMENT must have a charismatic MASCOT where the people will leave
everything and just flock in numbers and nod their heads, a mascot that will
remain the mascot until the end of the MOVEMENT, no matter what, and no
matter who tries to pull it down.
9.Immediately after the 19 December 2010 , there must be a full-fledged
CONVENTION of the people with invited DELEGATES et al.
10. All of  Goa's political Parties must be invited for this CONVENTION to
give their PARTY PRESENTATIONS,  warning them that their survival in Goan
Politics henceforth will depend on this  PRESENTATION,.
11. The CONVENTION shall deliberate for one or more days (if necessary) and
come out with its finding before the CONVENTION  is closed as to which
political party in Goa it will support OR if it will go ahead and take the
job of doing the necessary by itself at  the next elections  with all 40
candidates.
12. If this be the case, a very very strong signal will have been sent to
the people of Goa that they can now expect a real change. That is because
one or two well meaning and self-less persons cannot clean the ROT and there
are chances that the ROT  will engulf them too. With all 40 in the fray,
chances are that there could be a chance to get absolute majority, to say
good-bye to blackmailing coalition politics which only works for itself and
for their kin and friends.
13. Those who get elected shall be controled by this people's MOVEMENT on
the basis of the  blue-prints which has been accepted by the people ---
which by-the-way will be the ' SYSTEM OF FUTURE GOVERNANCE OF GOA'. The
recalcitrants shall not only be dropped like hot potatoes but also be shamed
and blacklisted for life.
14. The 'No Second Term' which will be enforced with an iron hand shall see
to it that vote-bank politics will vanish in thin air for once from the
sacred Goan soil.
15. Soon after the Convention - the MOVEMENT  shall identify and bring in
people who will take the lead (for once) ...  who have been long time
activist for 'good-effective-governance'. These people should come forward
automatically  to say 'yes, I am ready to contest'  if the MOVEMENT wants
and if they do not want to be considered 'hypocrites'. The final choice of
candidates shall be made as according to the Wwell laid-down procedures of
short-listing and choosing, without hurting anyone.
16. The MOVEMENT will have to be standing on its own  i.e. self- financed,
without begging and borrowing from shady mine-owners; industrialists and
business people;  if it does not want to be burried a 1000 feet underground.
17. If it is the political party that has been considered ok to be supported
by the MOVEMENT, then its candidates must be whetted by the MOVMENT. It is
however, a forgone conclusion that most political parties will abstain from
the CONVENTION of this MOVEMENT;  not because of anything,  but because they
do not possess any sort of presentation to present. The National Parties in
Goa are run through telephone hot-lines. And those which are not the
National Parties  will not know what a presentation is all about, forget
about giving one.
18. Coming back to December 19, 2010, let the whole of Goa wear T-Shirts and
Caps purchased from the MOVEMENT'S outlets ( for a decent/nominal amount
just a little over the cost of providing one) and flood the Panjim's Azad
Maidan and trample it like it has never before trampled upon since 1961. Let
the people sport a 'sticker' on their vehicles which again will cost a
nominal amount to cover the printing plus a little bit left-over for the
MOVEMENT'S finances.
&
last but not the least

19. Let this  MOVEMENT  be  the 'PPS  MOVEMENT' - The MOVEMENT of the
PEOPLE  of Goa FOR POLITICAL SANITY.

If this comes about, then there will be no holes left in Goa where the
Alibaba and his 40 thieves could ever hide.

T

Re: [Goanet] Dasain Greetings to Venantius

2010-10-19 Thread Venantius J Pinto
>
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 08:59:07 +0530
> From: Charudatt Prabhudesai 
> To: post list 
> Subject: Re: [Goanet] asain Greetings to Venantius (Venantius J Pinto)
>
> I am willing to be satisfied with that explanation, because a discussion
> on Hindustani music can go interminably long.
>
venantius j pinto: True, very true. In any case I am not in that league, and
hope to learn over time. But making analogies with thoughts and
relationships is how I will respond here.



> Quote: because the Shankar / Jaikishan team just did not quite get it
> right.
> Due either to ignorance, carelessness, or rebelliousness, they twisted the
> rag and threw in so much unrelated stuff that it became unrecognisable."

I find it bit absolutist to charge the creative duo,Shankar-Jaikishan with
> ignorance. There is in the semi-classical or classical based tradition of
> music, particularly film music and other non classical traditions like
> Gazhals,
> bhavageets,etc. a tendency to deliberately mix ragas. The prime object is
> to
> 'concoct' a tune just a shade off-tangent.There are any number of
> compositions
> in the traditions referred to above where one is let into the mood of
> certain raga
> and then deliberately mislead away into a mixed-bag of notes. Pt. Abhisheki
> has done
> it in his compositions, Pt. Hridaynath Mangeshkar does it almost every time
> he composes. Besides, ragas are based on something called Thaat' Many ragas
> in one group may resemble, and sometimes they may be from different thaats
> yet
> resemble like in the case of Tchaaya-nut,Jayjaywanti,Des, Kedar
> and the like.
>

venantius j pinto: The quote is from the site, which my friend Vaishali
helped me out with, and also made it clear to me that she does not pretend
to know Hindustani. All your points are well taken. Further down allow me to
give examples related to art/design--style, etc. But before that there are
three points made above:  "ignorance, carelessness, or rebelliousness" As
the years go by more things are revealed of the processes, learning
methodologies, interactions with fellow musicians of our Film Music
directors.

Again all your points are well taken, and perhaps the language on that site
brought to your mind the range you present in comprehending Hindustani
music. Yet, in any case there will always be classifications. So although
the intent is to shape a tune, others who are often equally good or
sometimes even better--are placing the tune in a category. That's all, in my
reading. Of course this may be done in a few of ways, including less
bluntly/ stridently/ perhaps with less angst (although not in this case). To
those who know a lot, and can make distinctions--Its a whole other thing
(terms of comprehension as well as identity shaping) than to those who are
attempting in pinning things down while develop an understanding of the
forms--and they are many. Subsequently variations, subtleties, nuances--will
enter their domains.

To my attempting an extrapolated analogy, here: My paintings are essentially
drawings to me and also within contemporaneity, but many artists balk at me
placing them in that category. For them they cannot be drawings. What many
see as calligraphy I see as drawing (in my case, and intent) and these are
only broad categories. Here too, as in my case--the intent is perhaps not to
"concoct"--other than when I illustrate--which more often than not is a
painting/drawing/print--although done to illustrate a topic--the subject
having been internalized and which externalizes as artistic labor. But I am
fine with it being referred to as an illustration. In fact my entire formal
training happens in Design. Now could that be the reason for my seeing
things the way I do and I mean strictly with the visual arts. When it comes
to methodologies of seeking, using and the application of materials its a
whole other things.

Another example: Years ago while at FIT, I wanted a student to get a better
grip on drawing the hand. He said it was his style, the poor drawing to
which I responded that he was messing himself up. His work had not developed
into a style, it was someways off from getting there, and it would be
helpful to him if he did a few studies of the hand (I would help)-- then see
if he felt propelled towards the style he thought he was seeing, and whether
it was valid (to him). In any case, he could continue attempting to fashion
a style (a bane of illustration) and it would become quite automatic
(considering the reality of getting ready for the market which was Toy
Design), once he had that armature under his belt--in his grasp. Of course
this is not true of everyone, including forms of art out of mainstream
education.


Sometimes Classical singers like Pt. Kumar Gandharva (whom the puritans may
> not accept as a strict classicist!) oddly brought in an un-prescribed note
> into
> the raga. There is a story how once he sang a note that HAD TO BE AVOIDED
> (varjit)
> while singingthe particular rag

Re: [Goanet] Democracy attains a new low in India

2010-10-19 Thread floriano

Dear Manuel,

Your post has wound  me up to do what I promised to do.
Therefore, here it is.

1. Goa 'NEEDS' a Political Solution.
2. This Political Solution must be spelt out first so that it is swallowed
'bait-hook & sinker' style by the People of Goa who seem to be fed-up of
this MESS.
3. As an alternative  to all existing Political Parties, Goa needs to field
all 40 candidates who have never been elected before... aka fresh faces.
4. It does not matter if they are Saints or Devils. The Political System
which will be spelt out will not allow itself to be bent or marginalized.
Therefore, the Devils will fly into outer space leaving Saints and mostly
hypocrite Saints  to be dealt with.
5. Before too long, Goa needs a massive  people's MOVEMENT which can safely
swallow their pride and come to terms that Goa requires 'political sanity'
like 'yesterday'
6. This massive MOVEMENT of the people must be like the movement we have
seen in the past on 18 December, 2006 at Azad Maidan... the GBA Movement.
7. The closest date for this MOVEMENT to take shape is 19 December, 2010 as
there is not much time left until the next elections in 2012 or earlier.
8. This MOVEMENT must have a charismatic MASCOT where the people will leave
everything and just flock in numbers and nod their heads, a mascot that will
remain the mascot until the end of the MOVEMENT, no matter what, and no
matter who tries to pull it down.
9.Immediately after the 19 December 2010 , there must be a full-fledged
CONVENTION of the people with invited DELEGATES et al.
10. All of  Goa's political Parties must be invited for this CONVENTION to
give their PARTY PRESENTATIONS,  warning them that their survival in Goan
Politics henceforth will depend on this  PRESENTATION,.
11. The CONVENTION shall deliberate for one or more days (if necessary) and
come out with its finding before the CONVENTION  is closed as to which
political party in Goa it will support OR if it will go ahead and take the
job of doing the necessary by itself at  the next elections  with all 40
candidates.
12. If this be the case, a very very strong signal will have been sent to
the people of Goa that they can now expect a real change. That is because
one or two well meaning and self-less persons cannot clean the ROT and there
are chances that the ROT  will engulf them too. With all 40 in the fray,
chances are that there could be a chance to get absolute majority, to say
good-bye to blackmailing coalition politics which only works for itself and
for their kin and friends.
13. Those who get elected shall be controled by this people's MOVEMENT on
the basis of the  blue-prints which has been accepted by the people ---
which by-the-way will be the ' SYSTEM OF FUTURE GOVERNANCE OF GOA'. The
recalcitrants shall not only be dropped like hot potatoes but also be shamed
and blacklisted for life.
14. The 'No Second Term' which will be enforced with an iron hand shall see
to it that vote-bank politics will vanish in thin air for once from the
sacred Goan soil.
15. Soon after the Convention - the MOVEMENT  shall identify and bring in
people who will take the lead (for once) ...  who have been long time
activist for 'good-effective-governance'. These people should come forward
automatically  to say 'yes, I am ready to contest'  if the MOVEMENT wants
and if they do not want to be considered 'hypocrites'. The final choice of
candidates shall be made as according to the Wwell laid-down procedures of
short-listing and choosing, without hurting anyone.
16. The MOVEMENT will have to be standing on its own  i.e. self- financed,
without begging and borrowing from shady mine-owners; industrialists and
business people;  if it does not want to be burried a 1000 feet underground.
17. If it is the political party that has been considered ok to be supported
by the MOVEMENT, then its candidates must be whetted by the MOVMENT. It is
however, a forgone conclusion that most political parties will abstain from
the CONVENTION of this MOVEMENT;  not because of anything,  but because they
do not possess any sort of presentation to present. The National Parties in
Goa are run through telephone hot-lines. And those which are not the
National Parties  will not know what a presentation is all about, forget
about giving one.
18. Coming back to December 19, 2010, let the whole of Goa wear T-Shirts and
Caps purchased from the MOVEMENT'S outlets ( for a decent/nominal amount
just a little over the cost of providing one) and flood the Panjim's Azad
Maidan and trample it like it has never before trampled upon since 1961. Let
the people sport a 'sticker' on their vehicles which again will cost a
nominal amount to cover the printing plus a little bit left-over for the
MOVEMENT'S finances.
&
last but not the least

19. Let this  MOVEMENT  be  the 'PPS  MOVEMENT' - The MOVEMENT of the
PEOPLE  of Goa FOR POLITICAL SANITY.

If this comes about, then there will be no holes left in Goa where the
Alibaba and his 40 thieves could ever hide.

T

[Goanet] A Lion Was Getting Married....

2010-10-19 Thread Gina Fernandes
A lion was getting married. At his wedding a mousewas  shouting away and 
congratulating the lion.
"All the best, my brother. Good luck."
 
Seeing the mouse shouting away claiming that the lion getting married is his 
brother, another Lion grabs the mouse in anger and asks: "Who the hell do you 
think you are? How can a lion be your brother? You are only a mouse."

The Mouse replies:
"I, too, was a Lion before I got married." 




[Goanet] LANDMARK RESOLUTIONS PASSED AT CANSAULIM GRAM SABHA

2010-10-19 Thread roger dsouza
*LANDMARK RESOLUTIONS PASSED AT CANSAULIM GRAM SABHA*

 The very well attended Gram Sabha on 17th October 2010 held at the
Panchayat Ghar Cansaulim amidst tight police security went off peacefully.
It may be recalled that the Gram Sabha held on 22th August was adjourned due
to unruly mob scenes and attacks on Gram Sabha members brought in at the
behest of a builder floating the controversial Gonsalves-Dias Gates
mega-project with the backing of the local MLA and Panchayat members.

As soon as the minutes of the previous adjourned Gram Sabha were read out
the Sarpanch Jose Manuel Fernandes admitted that the resolution for land
acquisition for constructing a road in the vicinity of the controversial
housing project at Cottarvaddo was wrongly recorded in the minutes by
Secretary Pradeep Tamhankar when in fact such a proposal was never put to
vote.

Thereafter Gram Sabha member Evans Fernandes highlighted the state of
affairs in the village Panchayat office wherein there was no accountability
among the administrative staff as regards to office timings and work
attitude. The Sarpanch assured him to look into the matter.

Next one of the Gram Sabha member’s brought to the notice of the house that
vide Panchayat body resolution No 9 of 5th August 08 it was resolved to get
the services of one engineer and surveyor as and when needed, to check for
illegalities in projects and building files of the village. However if any
project file is being passed by the Panchayat in violation of the said
resolution the damages if any, claimed by the builder of project which are
subsequently proved to be illegal should be recovered from the personal
accounts of individual Panch members after fixing responsibilities for
being  party to licensing such projects. To this Panch member Ferwin
Saldanha accused the Gram Sabha member of fabricating evidence of such a
resolution to this the member produced the minutes of the VP Body Meeting of
5/8/08 obtained under the RTI Act and the House witnessed a visibly
embarrassed Mr Saldanha sheepishly taking his seat.

In the din a long time elected Panch Martha Saldanha the self styled iron
lady of the village was heard saying that “the Gram Sabha is nobody and has
no powers”! She opined that the matter of the controversial mega project is
‘ subjudice” and the matter is pending with the Director of Panchayats. To
this a Gram Sabha member countered her by saying that the Director of
Panchayat is a quasi-judicial authority and that the elected Panches cannot
abdicate their responsibilities and should act and revoke the license given
to the builder forthright to uphold the law.

The Gram Sabha ended with the final resolution tabled by Sheela Gracias on
the doubling of the railway line by the South Western railway. The Cansaulim
Gram Sabha rejected and opposed the proposal of the Indian railways to
expand the existing rail track and loop it to the Konkan railway track for
the following reasons.

   1. The existing rail track passes through the area which has the highest
   population density in the villages.
   2. The existing the track is in close vicinity of age old heritage houses
   and other heritage habitat and the constant movement of rail traffic would
   cause vibrations which could damage the heritage houses and most of them are
   or very close to 100 years of age or more.



   1. The railway station is in the heart of the village and there is
   absolutely no space for expansion of the same.



   1. The village Panchayat area is a low density heritage fabric area and a
   scenic coastal zone as acknowledged in the RPG 2021.



   1. Parking of goods trains at odd hours near the houses has been causing
   number of damages and they are continuously in need of undergoing repair
   jobs.



   1. Vibration owing to rail traffic has caused cracks in old heritage
   homes and further expansion plans would prove catastrophic.



   1. The vibration and noise pollution even in the dead of night will cause
   major physical and mental health problems to the residents of the village.
   2. Goods carrying trains which will be carrying mainly mineral ore
   through the village as the expansion plans are being executed by Rail Vikas
   Nigam Ltd and this Port connectivity project, shall cause atmospheric
   pollution through heavy dust and pose a major health hazard to the residents
   of the village giving rise to pulmonary diseases of epidemic proportions.
   3.  The railway line passes very close to a place of Christian worship
   the St. Lawrence Chapel at Arossim and further expansion will call for
   demolition of the century old chapel besides disturbing the tranquility of
   the village.
   4. The Cansaulim–Arossim–Cuelim village boasts of livestock and
   agricultural land which will be endangered owing to the proposed heavy rail
   road traffic.
   5. It is resolved that the villagers will not permit our beautiful scenic
   coastal heritage village to be exploited and our people and live

[Goanet] 3rd Know Goa Programme 28th Nov to 12th Dec 2010.

2010-10-19 Thread Santosh Helekar
I am forwarding below an announcement that I have received from the Director 
for NRI Affairs, Goa. The requisite application can be obtained at the 
following link as a Microsoft Word file:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/GoenchimXapotam/files/Know_Goa_Programme_2010.doc

Cheers,

Santosh


Brief on Know Goa Programme

Sub:  3rd  Know Goa Programme (KGP)
November 28 to December 12, 2010

The Know Goa Programme  is formulated for the benefit of youth of Goan origin 
who are not Indian Nationals and have had no opportunity to discover their 
roots in Goa and in India.
The Government of Goa, Department of NRI Affairs has decided to invite 
application from interested Goan Diaspora youth, mainly students and young 
professionals in the age group of 18 to 28 years, who have distinguished 
themselves in various fields and shown abiding interest in India, specially in 
Goa.

The 3rd  Know Goa Programme (KGP) is scheduled from November 28 to December 12, 
2010. The terms and conditions for the eligibility are as under. It has been 
decided that after completing the assignment in Goa from November 28 to 
December 6, 2010, the KGP group will be taken to national capital Territory of 
Delhi and the World Heritage monuments at Agra on 7th December.

Terms & Conditions and Eligibility Criteria

1.Goan Diaspora Youths in the age group of 18 – 28 years who are not Indian 
nationals and have had no opportunity to discover their roots and have abiding 
interest in India in general and Goa in particular, and who have distinguished 
themselves in various fields, are eligible to apply.
Those who have already participated in the Know India Programme organized by 
Government of India, Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs are not eligible for 
the Know Goa Programme.
2.The Government of Goa will bear to and fro air fare from the original 
destination to Goa, from Goa to Delhi and from Delhi back to destination by the 
cheapest economy class. Tickets for onward journey from the original 
destination to Goa will be emailed to participants.
3.While in Goa the participants will be accommodated at Miramar Residency 
in Deluxe Rooms on twin sharing basis. This is a prime property of Goa Tourism 
Development Corporation located at the famous Miramar Beach only 04 kms away 
from the Panaji the capital city of Goa. The participants will be provided 
breakfast, lunch and dinner. All expenses on lodging and boarding will be borne 
by the State Government.
4.While the participants will be taken to Delhi at State Government cost, 
the Government of India, Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs will host their 
stay in Delhi (including a day trip to Agra).
5.Participants will be paid Rs. 250/- each per day as pocket expenses.

6.Final departure of the participants to their respective destinations will 
be from Delhi. That is why the return tickets will be Ex-Delhi.





[Goanet] New Konkani Album Release: Buyao Rocks Konkani

2010-10-19 Thread Edward Verdes
Buyao Theatres, Goem will be releasing its 13th album titled BUYAO ROCKS 
KONKANI

which is fusion of peppy western beats including rock with Indian rhythm.
The Songs in this album are penned by Noted Lyricists Shridhar Kamat & John 
Aguiar
and Late Goem Shahir Ulhas Buyao. Previous albums by Sidhanath Buyao, (son 
of late Ulhas Buyao)

Buyanv with Love, Valley of Colorz, Greatful to Jesus.
Sidhanath is also the winner of best music 2009 award (TAG)  and best singer 
2009 ( Gulab Award).


BUYAO ROCKS KONKANI which is slated to be released on 28th October 2010 at a 
musical extravaganza
at Ravindra Bhavan, Margao, has already created quite a buzz not only for 
its very attractive cover but also the
promos currently aired on local TV channels in Goa and also on the internet 
thru U-tube.
Going by the stupendous response and enquiries from all over, thanks to the 
internet interface,
regarding availability of its new album BUYAO ROCKS KONKANI, Buyao Theatres 
Goem announces

a special prize for all Konkani music lovers who purchase it.

The offer is for all Buyao Theatre Goem fans who order the copy of their CD 
through SMS.
The lucky winner will get a special cash prize of Rs. 10,000/- which will be 
declared at a special press conference
to be held on 5th January 2011. Orders placed up to 31st December 2010 will 
be eligible for this scheme.
The CD is priced at Rs. 150/- only which includes the cost of postage and 
packaging.

CDs will be sent by VPP and cash payment is to be made on receipt.
To Order your copy/album Type BUYAOROCKS (space) your Name & Address &
No of CDs & send/sms to 7600676006

http://www.facebook.com/subuyao
www.buyao.in

Edward Verdes
http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/



[Goanet] To my heart I must be true_Feel your way

2010-10-19 Thread Venantius J Pinto
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHFbhhi_XVc&feature=player_embedded

"Maybe we wont see each other after graduation."
"No that will never happen."

++
vjp


[Goanet] CALLED TO ETERNAL REWARD - FR. SAVIO GAMA 14th DEATH ANNIVERSARY

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[Goanet] Govt to start Bimbvel land Vasco acquisition for Navy sans urgency clause

2010-10-19 Thread roger dsouza
It’s down-right shocking how the Government of Goa goes about acquiring huge
tracts of land for Tom, Dick and Harry including it’s own Ministers and
whoever and his dog that demands it.

South Goa district Collector’s grandiose plan to acquire huge land
admeasuring 1.15 lakh sq meters in Davorlim village for “multi purpose
utility project” has finally landed the in High Court.

MLA Mauvin Godinho asks for 1 lakh square metres for allegedly treating
garbage from 6 villages and Digambar Kamat nods his head to any con-scheme.

Now before one could say ‘for what” the Government of Goa is jumping to
acquire land in Bimbvel Beach Vasco for the Navy.

Huge tracts of fields and land were acquired by the Navy from Goan Families
in Vasco, Dabolim, Chicalim following Liberation and what is the land being
used – for holding  Navy Balls, Gymnasiums, Health Clubs and Spas for
Massages and Jacuzzis and other such con-schemes.

This article is from today’s Times of India.



*Govt to start Bimbvel land acquisition sans urgency clause*

Govind Kamat Maad, TNN, Oct 19, 2010, 04.43am IST



MARGAO: Notwithstanding the public outcry against the moves of the Indian
Navy  to acquire a large stretch of the Bimbvel beach in Vasco, the South
Goa district collectorate has forwarded the Navy's proposal to the state
government to initiate the land acquisition process.

It has also asked the defence estates officer (the acquiring department) to
deposit 25% of the value of the land admeasuring 1,08,372 sq m, valued at `
3.78 crore.

However - in what can be seen as some consolation - the district
administration has turned down the request of the naval authorities to
acquire the land under the urgency clause of the Land Acquisition Act. A
sanction for this had already been granted by the ministry of defence of the
government of India.

Documents obtained by TOI under the RTI Act reveal that the Indian Navy had
insisted on the invocation of the urgency clause of the Land Acquisition Act
1894, with the defence estates officer, Panaji, making a formal request to
the south Goa district collector to that effect.

Invocation of the urgency clause entails dispensing of the procedure of
filing objections by interested parties under Section 5 (a) of the Land
Acquisition Act.

The letter of the defence estates officer stated, "It is intimated that the
representative of this office and the representative of INS Hansa, Vasco,
has discussed the matter of acquisition of land admeasuring 1,08,372 sq m
known as Bimbvel beach, Vasco, with the secretary and under secretary
(Rev-I) in his office. During discussion, the under secretary said that the
acquisition will be done in normal procedure without invoking the urgency
clause u/s 17 of LA Act, 1894, whereas the sanction of government of India,
ministry of defence has been accorded for invoking the urgency clause viz
Section 17 of LA Act."

It further pleaded that recommendation be given to the under secretary
(Rev-I) and the land acquisition officer, Mormugao, to follow the procedure
for land acquisition under urgency clause of the LA Act.

The ministry of defence, in a letter dated June 15, 2010, had conveyed to
the chief of naval staff, New Delhi: "The sanction of the President of India
for acquisition of state/private land measuring 1,08,372 sq m known as
Bimbvel beach located in village Mormugao, Vasco, Goa, for the safety of INS
Hansa at a total estimated cost of ` 3.78 cr."

It added, "The sanction is also accorded for invoking the provisions of
urgency clause viz Section 17 of the Land Acquisition Act, 1894 for
acquisition of private lands involved in this case".

Turning down the request, deputy collector (land acquisition), south Goa,
Margao, Agnelo Fernandes, informed the defence estates officer in a letter
that the proposal has been forwarded to the government "to issue
notification under Section 4 of the Land Acquisition Code, without invoking
the urgency clause".

Explaining the reasons for rejecting the navy's demand for invoking the
urgency clause, authorities of the district administration expressed
apprehensions of finding themselves in legal entanglements if the normal
procedure is not followed.

"This office has experienced in the past that if the land acquisition is
proceeded by invoking urgency clause under section 17 of Land Acquisition
Act, 1894, the interested parties approach the high court wherein this
office is made party to that writ petition and this office is made
answerable to the high court in the said matter," the deputy collector's
letter addressed to the defence estates officer states.

"It is also observed that many a times, the district court orders to vacate
the urgency clause in order to hear the interested parties. Therefore the
land acquisition proceedings are forwarded to the government without
invoking urgency clause in order to avoid the above difficulties," the
letter adds.


[Goanet] JOB INTERVIEWS A FARCE

2010-10-19 Thread Aires Rodrigues
The interviews held to recruit government staff are a farce. The candidates
are in fact chosen and finalized much before even the letters of interviews
go out to the aspiring candidates. Merit and competency is all irrelevant
with Ministers calling the shots. The Heads of departments have to be blamed
for not having the spine to tell the Ministers that all recruitment should
be on merit.

Even the office of the very high constitutional post of Advocate General has
been stuffed with his family and friends. The Advocate General Subodh Kantak
has confessed that his personal secretary, a clerk from the Corporation of
City of Panaji, has been brought in by him as his Personal Secretary on a
gazetted officers pay scale. Amongst other errands he walks the Advocate
General’s pack of dogs. The whole system of recruitment of staff seems to
have gone to dogs.


Aires Rodrigues
T1 - B30, Ribandar Retreat
Ribandar - Goa - 403006
Mobile: 9822684372


[Goanet] Fwd: BIS #2094 LITERARY AWARD FOR KRISTAPURANA TRANSLATION (Marathi)

2010-10-19 Thread Venantius J Pinto
-- Forwarded message --
From: BIS 

*BIS Mumbai*

BOSCO INFORMATION SERVICE #2094
LITERARY AWARD FOR KRISTAPURANA TRANSLATION Robert Pen sdb

*NASHIK, OCTOBER 16, 2010:* On Sunday  October 10, 2010, at the Forty third
Nashik Jilha Sahityik Mela (Nashik District Literary Meet) organized by
Sarvajanik Vachanalaya (General Library), Fr. Nelson Falcao, sdb, received
yet another Sahityik Puraskar (literature award) for his monumental work on
the modern and contemporary translation and critical edition of the
Kristapurana.  About Five hundred eminent thinkers, authors, writers and
poets were present at the one full-day Literary Meet.



The Chief Guest Mr. Uttamrao Kamble, the Editor of Sakal daily newspaper
praised highly the scholarly work of Fr. Nelson and gave the award to him.  At
the Library Hall where all the new books were exposed for information and
publicity, the volume of the Kristapurana was placed at the centre.



The theme of the Literary Meet was “Are the Means of Communication totally
Responsible for the Deterioration of the Marathi Language?”  What emerged in
the various talks by experts and the panel discussion is that there are
other factors which are responsible for the deterioration of Marathi
language, namely, globalisation, business and marketing culture,
consumerism, fast age, electronic speed and inventions, and others.

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Re: [Goanet] asain Greetings to Venantius (Venantius J Pinto)

2010-10-19 Thread Charudatt Prabhudesai

I am willing to be satisfied with that explanation, because a discussion 
on Hindustani music can go interminably long.

Quote: because the Shankar / Jaikishan team just did not quite get it right.  
Due either to ignorance, carelessness, or rebelliousness, they twisted the 
rag and threw in so much unrelated stuff that it became unrecognisable."

I find it bit absolutist to charge the creative duo,Shankar-Jaikishan with 
ignorance. There is in the semi-classical or classical based tradition of 
music, particularly film music and other non classical traditions like Gazhals, 
 
bhavageets,etc. a tendency to deliberately mix ragas. The prime object is to 
'concoct' a tune just a shade off-tangent.There are any number of compositions 
in the traditions referred to above where one is let into the mood of certain 
raga 
and then deliberately mislead away into a mixed-bag of notes. Pt. Abhisheki has 
done 
it in his compositions, Pt. Hridaynath Mangeshkar does it almost every time 
he composes. Besides, ragas are based on something called Thaat' Many ragas 
in one group may resemble, and sometimes they may be from different thaats yet 
resemble like in the case of Tchaaya-nut,Jayjaywanti,Des, Kedar  
and the like.
Sometimes Classical singers like Pt. Kumar Gandharva (whom the puritans may
not accept as a strict classicist!) oddly brought in an un-prescribed note into 
the raga. There is a story how once he sang a note that HAD TO BE AVOIDED 
(varjit)
while singingthe particular raga he was singing. After the performance a critic 
is 
supposed to have asked why he had done that. He replied' "You see, that note 
was 
hanging there right above my head imploring me to include her".  

Charudatta Prabhudesai

  

Re: [Goanet] SELF DEFENCE CATHOLIC ASSOCIATIONS.

2010-10-19 Thread Albert Desouza

Dear readersThe catholic lay people are to be blamed for the mess in the 
catholic church. I am refering to the assets and finances of the church. We are 
always over generous while giving to the church. We want to make a big show and 
many times open our purses to give donations which goes elsewhere. Every sunday 
we pour money in the basket. I have never seen priests and nuns open their 
purses. In Goa the church is registered as a society registered under the 
society act 1860 but till today the church has remain so silent about this 
society as what is the name of the society, how many ordinary members it has, 
who are the governing body members, who are the minutes of the general body 
meeting or governing body meeting. They are afraid that the other catholics may 
want to get in this society. We are all left in the dark and we think that this 
church is ours, this property of the church is ours and it is our duty to 
repair the church etc.That means there is a scam and we are afraid. If tomorrow 
our churches are closed the assets can be divided between members of that 
society and we the philantrophist will get nothing. If you are allowed to be 
burried in the cemetry this society is doing us a favour. Amchem kaim nam. In 
Goa we are collecting lakhs of rupees towards mission. Do we have any mission 
in Goa ? our missionaries go to foreign countries and when they come to Goa 
they boast they are missionaries. it is the duty of Goa church o look after its 
sheep who are running here and there for the word of God.The church does not 
have obligation to send priests to Africa. When your own house is in disorder 
what can you set right your neighbour's house ? Our catholics are loaded with 
problems which the church has no time to solve. Divorce is increasing, drug 
absuse by youngsters is also increasing. Alcoholism and poverty is increasing. 
We have caritas which collects like mission sunday one collection. i have never 
seen caritas coming to the help of the poor and the downtrodden. we have so 
many under nourished christian families. We have alcoholic problems in our 
families. we have unemployment in our families. Does the church feel the heart 
beat or the low pulse beat of the poor ? No never. They will screw everyone 
when times come for collections or repairs of the church but they will not 
spend anything for us. Quo vadis Domino. Albert de souza 
or> Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 14:27:22 +0530
> From: jorgep...@gmail.com
> To: 
> Subject: [Goanet] SELF DEFENCE CATHOLIC ASSOCIATIONS.
> 
> The Catholic Clergy are not interested in utilizing Church assets,
> resources & vacant properties for the benefit of our poor catholics.
> The Catholic Schools are not prepared to reserve 25% seats in catholic
> schools for our poor catholics. The Catholic Hospitals are giving
> concessions to poor non-catholics but not to our poor catholics. The
> Catholic Missionaries are using their foreign funds to serve poor
> non-catholics but not our poor catholics. All in all nobody cares for
> poor catholics. No Wonder many of our poor catholics have left the
> catholic  hurch. Where there is no life, there is no attraction. A
> dead person is still dead, no matter how good the undertaker makes him
> look. So also a church which does not care about the poor parishoners.
> 
> The Bishops, Priests, Missionaries  will not bother about the opinion
> of the lay catholics. The lay catholics should set up their local
> associations to help each other and train each other in Combat so that
> the lay catholics are prepared for self-defence as and when the enemy
> decides to replicate the anti-christian kandhmal experiment.
> 
> Jorge D'souza
> Bombay.
  

[Goanet] Smokers to be under police watch at IFFI in Goa

2010-10-19 Thread Bernice Pereira
Why only IFFI?.  Isn't it necessary to ban it in restaurants all over 
Goa.  The three restaurants I visited during my short stay not only 
allowed it but brought along astrays for the guests - O Coqueiro - 
Porvorim, Starlight - Arpora and another popular one on Holiday street 
Calangute.


Why should non-smokers be forced to inhale this toxic polluting stuff 
just because of the callous, selfish attitude of a section of people who 
care a damn about their own health and cannot be expected to care about 
the health of others all around them.   I know two close lady friends 
who suffered from severe fibrosis only because of this one factor - one 
died, the other one is regularly on oxygen and if you see her terrible 
condition, you would understand why I detest cigarette smoking.


[Goanet] Kingfisher Voice of Goa 2010 - Gladrin Fernandes and Melvyn Noronha

2010-10-19 Thread JoeGoaUk
Kingfisher Voice of Goa 2010 - Gladrin Fernandes  and Melvyn Noronha
 
We did hear about this girl that she sings Lorna’s songs beautifully 
(Almost matching   voice)
At the contest too, she sang Lorna’s  and came out as this year’s
 winner of Kingfisher Voice of Goa 2010 (Konkani)
 
Gladrin Fernandes from Nagoa, Verna..  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr6/5094325957/sizes/l/
 
According to a source, I understand  that
She croons  for a local band (Strings?) 
and that the  group also plays for  Baywatch on every Thursdays.
 
As for English round, the winner is Melvyn Noronha from Siolim, Bardez
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauktiatr6/5094925836/sizes/l/
 
Congratulations to Gladrin and Melvyn
 
Probably, they will be perfoming  at Kingfisher Village during 
IFFI 2010 next month.  As Noel Clinton (2007), Kunjuraj Singh, 
Joane, Tavia (2009) etc perforemd here in the past. Courtesy Kingfisher.
Some clips
http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?sq=kingfisher+voice+of+goa
Will keep you updated.
 
As said, we did set out on our journey to Margao and Cuncolim but 
got held up at Panjim ITM on the day due to the rains on 16.1010.
Muinto Picasao.

For more detail report  and pics  of the finals with Remo and Lorna etc
please visit the blog
http://colinsaviocoelho.blogspot.com/


joego...@yahoo.co.uk 

for Goa & NRI related info... 
http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ 

For Goan Video Clips 
http://youtube.com/joeukgoa 

In Goa, Dial  1 0 8 
For Hospital, Police, Fire etc




[Goanet] Konkani/HIndi Song for the day!

2010-10-19 Thread Attarco
'Tuzo mog, maka di ga, maka di ga...mozo mog maka di...di maka tuzo mog tuzo 
maka

di maka...Mozo Saiba...oh Mozo SaibaMozo Saiba...oh Mozo Saiba'

The Song 'Saiba' from bollywood movie 'Guzaarish' to be released on Nov 19,
has Hrithik Roshan as Ethan Mascarenhas, Aishwarya Rai Bachchan as Sofia 
D’Souza.
The verdant green landscape, the magnetic blue waters and the warm bright 
sunshine of beautiful Goa

is home to one of the greatest magicians of his time, Ethan Mascarenhas.

A Sanjay Leela Bhansali movie, and his first as a music director...this 
movie is set and was
shot in Goa in July  and August to capture the melody of the monsoons and 
the romance of the place.
It has a Goan touch..the leading actors had to learn Portugese and Konkani 
for some scenes,

though the movie will be dubbed in Hindi...


Listen to this beautiful song partly in Konkani and Hindi rendered by 
Vibhavri Joshi.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqp08qIpFlY


Edward Verdes
http://edskantaram.blogspot.com/



Re: [Goanet] The Miracle of Chilean Mines

2010-10-19 Thread Patrice Riemens

Re:

Re:
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 21:38:42 -0400
From: Jeevan R 
To: goa...@goanet.org
Subject: Re: [Goanet] The Miracle of Chilean Mines

What about the heroic role played by the Medics, Rescue workers,
Engineers, and Scientists who all existed and physically brought the
miners out of the hole which could have very well become their tomb.


On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:13 AM, Ivo  wrote:
 > Dear Goanetters,
 > You have certainly being following the events odfc the 33 miners of
San Jos? mines, Chile. These notes were sent to me. I am forwarding them
to you. You may like to reflect on them.
 > Regards.
 > Fr.Ivo
 >


And what about the dismal health and safety situation in Chilean mines, as
has been documented ever since the 'Chicago Boys' took over the Chilean
economy under the guidance of dictator Augusto Pinochet? This situation is
now being belatedly (and very partially) remedied with Chile finally
(yesterday) signing the international convention on miners safety.

Afaiac everybody is allowed her/his take regarding which supernatural
forces saved the miners. For the Wall Street Journal it was ... capitalism
(surprise!): http://bit.ly/d52mSk ("It needs to be said. The rescue of the
Chilean miners is a smashing victory for free-market capitalism.")

Meanwhile, in China's mines  (or in Bihar for that matter...)

Cheerio, p+3D!




[Goanet] NRB West Zone Badminton Championship(25th-26th October)...6 days to go

2010-10-19 Thread Sandeep Heble
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=1813177&l=9a91ee98eb&id=1187066172


[Goanet] Song for the day!

2010-10-19 Thread Gabe Menezes
South of the Border - Engelbert

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMBMkm184pU


Tommy Garrett 50 guitars - South of the Border.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg34lRFzNfA&feature=related


-- 
DEV BOREM KORUM

Gabe Menezes.


[Goanet] UGC 35thTournamnet Week 3

2010-10-19 Thread Joseph Gonsalves
Rising Stars Vs United Friends Club

UFC begins tournament with 3-0 win over Rising Stars

The first match began at 7:10 am where the winners of the last year’s
edition United Friends club took on Rising Stars. Rising stars took
advantage of early possession and began attacking right away from the word
go, but the UFC defense was solid. UFC tried a couple of long balls to shake
Rising Stars defense but they were not able to get them through for their
attack to take advantage. The game was evenly balanced with both sides
maintaining equal amount of possession and no side looked like it was going
to give away any goals. UFC were gifted a golden opportunity in the
18thminute with a handball inside the penalty area and Remedio
Fernandes picked
the left side and send the goal keeper the other way to make the score 1-0.
UFC soon afterwards had another chance, but Antony of Rising stars pulled in
a great last minute calculated tackle to deny UFC from scoring. UFC
maintained their attacking momentum and were rewarded with a defensive
mistake from Rising Stars which resulted in an own goal.

The second half began with rising stars stepping up their attacks and were
looking for their opening goal. They began passing the ball nicely among
themselves and creating chances but the UFC defenders were present all the
way to stop all attacks. The game began to open up with both teams missing
fine chances on either sides of the goal. It was a delight to see attacking
football from both the sides, but UFC were the better team on this day and
were rewarded a the third goal from Joquiam. The match finished UFC 3 –
Rising Stars 0. The match was officiated by Jerry D’mello, Tony, Arnold and
Joe.

Final Score: UFC 3 – Rising Stars 0





UG Strikers Vs K.G.A

K.G.A knock out hosts UG Strikers

At the start of the second match, the KIFF president introduced all the club
presidents and both the teams to Mr.Ali Melhem, the official from MOH
ground. The last time these two teams met where on this ground where UG
Strikers had edged KGA 3-1 in the KIFF league match. With the new season
underway and players changing teams ever so regularly, KGA would be looking
to turn things around. The first goal came in ten minutes when an unmarked
Vitorino Menezes scored from a nice shot taken from inside the box. UG tried
to counter with some long balls from the midfield but KGA defense stood like
a rock. UG Strikers had a chance with a free kick but it was sent just wide
over the post. KGA maintained their attack on UG but UG goalkeeper had come
out of his line to make some good saves. Shubert of UG had a long range
effort from 30 yards out but it was kept out by the fingertips of the KGA
goalkeeper. Vico, played a major role in midfield for KGA as he constantly
provided some good balls for his attack keeping the UG defenders busy at the
back. Vitorino who played exceptionally well beat his marker and another
defender to make the score 2-0 at the end of the first half.

United Goans started the second half positively and some good passing leaded
to some good attacking chances. It was a very dormant second half from both
the sides with KGA happy to protect their lead. Vitorino was without doubt
the man of the match as he continued displaying his superb individual
skills. He had a chance to complete his hat-rick because of a deliberate
handball by a UG defender which resulted in him being sent off.  This is the
second time we have seen a red card in this tournament due to the same
reason. There were a lot of offside calls as both teams began to play the
offside trap well. Another lapse in defending resulted in an own goal and
KGA made sure they would be no late comeback before the match ended with
favor to KGA. This match was refereed by Jerry, Joe, Arnold and Nasi.

Final Score: KGA 3 – UG Strikers 0





DHL VS RANGERS



DHL score in extra time to go through against new comers Rangers

The third match began at 10:03 am with both teams playing delighting
football and gave the crowd a great show of football. The match referees
were Gaspor, Arnold, Joe and Rosario. Both teams were matched equally and no
team had control of possession for long periods of time. The game was played
at a fast pace and the first good chance was a shot taken by no.19 Vazeel of
Rangers from 35 yards out. He had the keeper beaten but the ball flew inches
over the post. Kevin Misquita played an instrumental part in midfield as he
had helped create a lot of attacking chances for Rangers. DHL then began to
get in the game and take advantage of some shots on target. The Rangers
keeper was upto mark and was able to deal with shots on target from DHL. DHL
had some good chances but the defense of Rangers made sure they would not be
any goals in the first half.

With the temperature over 40 degree Celsius, the second half began at 10:50
am. Rangers were awarded a free kick, but it was sent to the wall and on the
counter DHL managed to score a goal but it was rightly ruled offside.