[Goanet] Bible verse for the Day

[Devak Argham]

John 12:44-47
==

44 Jesus cried out and said, “Whoever believes in me believes not only in
me but also in the one who sent me,

45 and whoever sees me sees the one who sent me.

46 I came into the world as light, so that everyone who believes in me
might not remain in darkness.

47 And if anyone hears my words and does not observe them, I do not condemn
him, for I did not come to condemn the world but to save the world.

[Goanet] Alfonso Albuquerque of Porvorim

[BT Yahoo Mail]

Hi Dom,
I was moved by your courage to casually disclose that your dad started 
as a coolie working at the Bombay docks and rose to be Chief Petty 
Officer. That example is bound to have shaped your own values.
The little I got to know about you came from Alfonso Albuquerque, not 
the conqueror, but an unusual guy who lived in Porvorim, on the main 
road opposite Bank of India branch in the 1970-80s. Allow me to say 
something about him.
Born in 1911, he was one of a large, well known Goan family, now mostly 
scattered in Canada.
Alfonso went to London to study law in 1933 and travelled to Germany in 
1936. There at a ball in Berlin, he met a blond German beauty, Ursula by 
name, then aged 20. He danced with her the whole night. Ursula thought 
him one of the handsomest men she had seen but frankly Alfonso was quite 
dark-complexioned. Next day, the two were swimming at a local lake and 
soon the courtship was on. It was the time when Hitler's Aryan ideology 
and anti-Jewish views are reaching their peak.
Ursula had agreed to marry Alfonso and booked her passage to Bombay. She 
arrived there in June 1939 when UK declared war on Germany.
The couple lived mostly on the outskirts of Mombasa. Alfonso switched 
from law to chicken farming. Meanwhile tensions were brewing and the 
children, Klaus and Claudia, left for the US on overseas study, followed 
by their mother.


Soon Alfonso was on his own and he took the path of spiritual 
liberation. His guru was UG Krishnamurti and under his teachings, he 
appeared to have undergone a radical transformation in Porvorim, leading 
him to do away with much of his worldly goods and live like an ascetic.
Meanwhile, his son had become a Professor of Sociology at Charleston 
College, South Carolina.


To return to you, its was Alfonso who spoke warmly about you and your 
artistic talents. But I don't recall much.
The point of this email is to ask you to fill us in on what you have 
been doing in the USA.


Eddie

Eddie

-- Original Message --
From: "Dom Martin" 
To: "goanet@lists.goanet.org" 
Sent: Tuesday, 5 May, 20 At 00:34
Subject: [Goanet] Goanet] Slave Trade
My latefather, Vincent Xavier Verodiano Martin, whose academic 
credentials were “segundgrao” -- left home at age 12, worked as a coolie 
atthe Bombay docks, slept thereon, later enlisted in the Royal 
IndianNavy and rose to the rank of Chief Petty Officer. The 
highestposition the British allowed Indians in the Royal Navy was the 
rank of lieutenant. My father's commanding officer was Lt. Sardarilal 
Mathradas Nanda, who, after India's independence, went on to become 
Admiral of the Indian Navy.
Note:  My father was onboard HMS Indus in the epic WWII sinking of the 
mighty German battleship, Bismarck. At the onslaught, HMS Indus 
waspositioned behind HMS Hood. A single salvo from Bismarck sent Hoodto 
the bottom of the ocean within 3 mins, leaving no survivors. Inthat 
lightning skirmish, the rest of the British naval fleet hastenedretreat, 
regrouped and then hounded Bismarck to its watery grave.
Althoughmy father's career originated as a "coolie", he was not enlisted 
by the“Brits” to serve East Africa as a “coolie”. He migrated 
andtranscended that status on his own. I salute his extraordinary 
gritand remain eternally indebted.

DomMartin
_Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 10:46:36 + (UTC)
From: Bernado Colaco 
To: 
Subject: [Goanet] Slave Trade
Message-ID: <26953537.1672756.1588589196...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 I wonder how many Goanetters or their forefathers were taken by the 
brits as coolies or indentured labour to East Africa?

BC
Soon after Portuguese conquered Goa, it became the main port to trade 
slaves brought from Portuguese enclave from Africa.? The slaves were 
shipped from Goa to Ceylon and as far away to Macao.? The Mhamai Kamats 
(whose ancestral house is just behind Governor's residence in Panjim) 
were one of the main slave traders in Goa.?

[Goanet] What does Joao want to say?

[Joao Barros-Pereira]

In
the Age
of
Corona Virus

we
all have

our
religions

my
favorite
and
only

Born
into Christianity

and
reborn

into
ancestor
worship

I
say

Hi
Mum!

Hi
Dad!

every
day

to
my parents

thank
you

and

thank
you

to
my
all my dead
ancestors
too

they
live

in
my ancestral
house

they
are alive

their
energy

is
here

in
this house

in
every room

What does Joao want to say?

[Goanet] Blackbird | The Beatles | Paola Hermosín

[Roland Francis]

Paola introduces this song as cutely as can be.

https://youtu.be/v6wsWHEQtfM

Roland.
Toronto.

Re: [Goanet] List? What List? Who? Why? What? When? How?

[Adolfo Mascarenhas]

No Vivian You were not mislead ///there are some Goans call them WEG or
even PEG *Perpetuating Evil Goans) who preach case on the flimest
escuseincluding occupations>Bakers, Carpenters, Cooks out and pride that
they are Catholicism and their CLUB are bastions of Whiteness, Education,
Cuisine by a Portuguese  ,dish made from the innards of pigs  The dish is
some times call Sore da Pot Belly,

No the diminutive Sr.Miriam thought us the right valuesof Christianity
 and while we knew all the commandments we only repeated words until we
became teenagers.  I  have never regretted  my Catholic
educationSr.Gerda and Sr Jacinta took it to a new plane...Sr.
Gerda...realized that I was innovative and skilledwith my handsso
fretwok, created mini linersm alters...and Sr Jacinta ...that Young Man can
be Responsible to all Girls.  It shapes your character.

Adolfo

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:39 PM Vivian A. DSouza 
wrote:

> Now, now Adolfo..I am scandalized.  Christ was a CARPENTERS's  son ??
> Christ was born of the Virgin Mary through virgin birth.  At least that is
> what I learnt from Sister Miriam
> at St. Joseph's Convent School, in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania.  And in the
> Nicene creed, we say
> "I believe in God the Father Almighty , Creator of Heaven and Earth and in
> Jesus Christ His only begotten Son.
> Have I been mis-led all along ?
>
> On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎05‎ ‎May‎ ‎2020‎ ‎12‎:‎26‎:‎26‎ ‎IST, Adolfo Mascarenhas <
> adca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Leon
> No need to apologizeSeveral Goans are confirming the jumping gene
> theory.  Their distant home was the Garde n of Edenthat was millions of
> years ago. ...about two thousand years or earlier, they began to use the
> annual cyclical trade winds but  late in the 19th  cent because of their
> language skills became top civil servants for the Brits..From there
> they are scattered all over and a few in UK think they are WGE and will
> swear that they eat Sore the Petal lovely stuff from the innards of
> pigs.
>
> Income differentials...that is not their problem, .. only Lazy and
> Poor people are Poor.  The TRUMPET is their hero WGE  like Western Music
> and even have CLUBSto Perpetuate WGE valuesIf Christ were to
> come.he would not be welcome  He was a CARPENTERS Son.
>  If you want to do Good JUST GO AHEAD AND DO IT.
>
> Adolfo Mascarenhas
> Presently in Quepem Goa
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 1:17 AM Leon Pereira  wrote:
>
> Apologies for adding to the confusion. Someone (Michael Lobo) compiled the
> email addresses of all of those who are in the family tree. He and others
> began to conduct discussions on topics of interest to them, assuming that
> everyone else (based on shared genes?) would be interested.
>
> As I said before, the right way to have done this was to have used BCC and
> sent out an invite with an explanation of what the purpose of the group
> was. Each of us could then have chosen to join or not.
>
> Hope that clears things up.
>
> Don’t shoot me! I’m only the accidental messenger! ;-)
>
> Leon
>
>

Re: [Goanet] Mail from Anish

[Eddie D'Sa]

Kind of you to make contact. Don’t know why you picked on me. So I am copying 
this to Goanet which is made up of quite an assortment of members. Some may 
respond to you.
While I do feel attached to Goa, I live in the UK and so do several from GoaNet.
I’ll copy the next post to you with more news.

Regards.. Eddie

From: Anish Esteves
Sent: 05 May 2020 12:49
To: edsa0...@outlook.com
Subject: Mail from Anish


Dear Sir,
   My name is Anish Esteves. I'm an aspiring journalist and student of St. 
Xavier's College, Mumbai. I'm the grandson of late Dr. Sarto Esteves, the 
famous writer.
   I got your email ID from Goanet. Do tell me about yourself. I'm using this 
lockdown time to get to know more Goanetters!
   I'm originally from Solva, Raia.

Awaiting a reply!

Regards,
Anish Esteves

www.anishesteves.home.blog
Twitter : AEthejourno

[Goanet] Schedule for Wednesday 6th May 2020

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Schedule for Wednesday 6th May 2020

12:00 AM
Rosary - Glorious Mysteries

12:24 AM
Consecrated Life - Daughters of St Paul

12:30 AM
Career Guidance - Forensic Science

01:00 AM
Mass in Konkani for Tuesday

01:35 AM
What is CanSurvive - Dr Eugene and Fr Savio

01:55 AM
Bhurgeanlem Angonn - Bhag 5

02:00 AM
Saibinnichi Ruzai -  Orkache Mister

02:25 AM
Ask Dr Sweezel - Should I get a Massage?

02:30 AM
Morning Music - Hymns - Fr Seville

03:00 AM
Media Track -Episode 37

03:30 AM
Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag 25 - Bhiku - Fr Pratap Naik sj

03:41 AM
Hymn - Vakhann'nni Tuka - Stanley Severes

03:45 AM
The Abundant Life - Getting ready to go - Prof. Nicholas D'Souza

04:05 AM
St. Mother Teresa - Talk by Alfwold Silveira

04:35 AM
Bible Project - God

04:45 AM
Bhokti Lharam- Bhag 18

04:55 AM
Concert -Mhozo Tallo Aikat - Juniors

05:35 AM
Amchi Bhas Amche Borovpi - Fr Luis Gomes interviewed by Daniel de Souza

06:30 AM
Precious blood of Jesus - Leela Moraes

06:50 AM
53rd Mando Festival - Merxechim Sobit Fullam - Children

07:00 AM
Mass in Konkani followed by Jivitacho Prokas and Saint of the Day

07:35 AM
Bhajans 1

08:05 AM
Music - Glory to You  followed by Povitr Atmeak Dispottem Magnnem

08:35 AM
Vakhann'ni ani Bozonn  - 1

09:05 AM
Our Father - Bengali

09:10 AM
Jezu - Bhakitant ani Itihasant - Talk by Adv. F.E. Noronha

09:37 AM
Bhurgeanlem Angonn - Bhag 7

09:40 AM
Atmik Margdorxon - Ek Niyall 1 - Br. Malvino Alfonso OCD

09:51 AM
Atmik Margdorxon - Ek Niyall 2 - Br. Malvino Alfonso OCD

10:08 AM
Health Matters -Plastic Surgery - Dr Yuri Dias Amborcar

10:35 AM
Nokhetram - Michael Gracias chats with  Tiatr Team : Subject

11:05 AM
My  Music Videos - Jezu Mhojo Raja - Myran Travasso

11:11 AM
Seby Wings -Gazzlo

11:15 AM
Intercessions (English)

11:30 AM
Mass in English followed by Daily Flash

12:05 PM
Laity and the Church - Fr Subhash Anand

12:40 PM
Hymn - Mhojea Deva Tum Sorv- Fr Seville Antao OFM(Cap)

12:42 PM
Catholic Quiz - St.Francis Xavier conducted by Mysticka Deniz

12:57 PM
Spiritual Communion Prayer

01:00 PM
Fuddarache Dive -  Anneli Pereira interviewed by Michael Gracias

01:27 PM
Hymn - Spread the News that Jesus is Risen - Fr Seville Antao OFM(Cap)

01:30 PM
Media Track -Episode 37

02:00 PM
In Conversation with: Fr. Denzil Fernandes sj interviewed by Alfwold
Silviera

02:27 PM
Ask Dr Sweezel - Why do I keep getting an ankle sprain even after Treatment?

02:30 PM
Literally Goa - Maria Ines Figueira interviewed by Frederick Noronha

02:56 PM
53rd Mando Festival - Spring Valleychem Mankulim Mankam, Pilerne - Children

03:16 PM
Music - Jesus Bendito - Victor Da Costa

03:18 PM
Hymn - Sonvsar sompo poriat - Fr Seville Antao OFM(Cap)

03:20 PM
Easter Story - English

03:26 PM
Easter Song - We are an Easter people - Brian Colaco

03:30 PM
Divine Mercy - English 4

03:50 PM
Hymns -  Rosary H.S. Navelim

03:55 PM
Poem - Bhogsonnem di by Sandhya Fernandes

04:00 PM
Rosary - Glorious Mysteries

04:24 PM
Reflection on the Gospel - Dominicans

04:30 PM
Senior Citizens Exercises - 6

04:55 PM
Bhokti Lharam - Bhag 16

05:00 PM
Youthopia - Cayla Rodrigues - Violin - interviewed by Luicius De  Almeida

05:22 PM
Ximpientlim Motiam - Bhag  87 - Chayevalo  - Fr Pratap Naik sj

05:30 PM
Career Guidance  - Shipping and Logistics - MES College

06:00 PM
Regina Caeli (English)

06:01 PM
Discipleship - Talk by Kenneth D'Sa

06:30 PM
Mass in Konkani followed by Jivitacho Prokas and Saint of the Day

07:05 PM
Regina Caeli - Konkani

07:07 PM
Entrepreneurship - Devika Martins interviewed by Basil D'Cunha

07:30 PM
Saibinnichi Ruzai -  Orkache Mister

07:54 PM
Psalm 51 - Read by Alfwold Silveira

08:00 PM
Zaanvai - Talk by Orlando D'Souza

08:30 PM
Amchi Bhas Amche Borovpi - Fr Jose Silveira sj interviewed by Daniel de
Souza

09:00 PM
Intercessions (Konkani)

09:15 PM
Ratchem Magnem

09:30 PM
Called to be Holy - Fr Fernando da Costa

10:35 PM
Tiatr Academy Kantaram Competition - Part 1

11:22 PM
Prayer for Vocations

11:25 PM
Bible Project -  Holiness

11:32 PM
Konknni Bhas - Bhag 4 - Fr Pratap Naik sj

11:57 PM
Couples Prayer - EnglishDonations may be made to:
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[Goanet] The Post Modern Juke-Box

[Roland Francis]

PMJ is a rotating musical collective that takes modern music and turns it into 
vintage swing and jazz.

Musical Collective is a term that describes a group of musicians in which 
membership is flexible and creative control shared. It is distinct from that of 
a traditional band.

Goans in Bombay had their own ‘musical collectives’ the most well known of 
which were the Dhobitalao groups that gathered at Alfred Restaurant and were on 
short notice for weddings and other celebrations. I have written about them in 
my Aunties of Dhobitalao article and they were also featured in Bardroy 
Barreto’s Nachom Ya Kumpasar (Dance On The Rhythm) recent movie.

Careless Whisper is a 1984 pop ballad composed by George Michael and Andrew 
Ridgeley. This PMJ video cover has got 27 million views testifying to the 
popularity of the song, Robyn Adele Anderson’s superb vocals and 
Grammy-nominated saxophonist Dave Koz’s blowing.

Careless Whisper
https://youtu.be/lVXziMFEqX0

Roland.
Toronto.

Re: [Goanet] Goanet] Slave Trade

[Voznadik Vojem]

Inspiring story propelling us forward to achieve the impossible.  Barely
twelve years old, making a journey into the unknown, overcoming all
adversity with that singular goal in mind, the sheer perseverance,
fortitude and bravery will remain a shining beacon. There are great
parallels to be drawn in this narrative.  And the wheel had turned full
circle.  Admiral Sardarilal Mathradas Nanda determinedly worked up his way
up by working at Karachi docks.

Abhar,
Voznadik Vojem

---
My late father, Vincent Xavier Verodiano Martin, whose academic credentials
were “segundgrao” -- left home at age 12, worked as a coolie at the Bombay
docks, slept thereon, later enlisted in the Royal Indian Navy and rose to
the rank of Chief Petty Officer.
Dom Martin

[Goanet] The Overstyle Duo

[Roland Francis]

Young people, what talent!!

The Overstyle Duo is easily the most fun and interesting band you never heard 
of — until now. Made up of husband and wife Evandro Tiburski 
(Guitarist/vocalist) and Fabi Terada (bassist/vocalist), the duo have a unique 
and special manner in which they create and perform their music, which makes 
them stand out immediately. 

Originally from Brazil, Evandro and Fabi have, indeed, managed to develop a 
unique style of play, symbolically called OverStyle,

Sultans Of Swing (Dire Straits)
https://youtu.be/4TalPkFcQM4

Have You Ever Seen The Rain (Creedence Clearwater Revival)
https://youtu.be/NGoE192Wh1E

Roland.
Toronto.

[Goanet] Coolies or construction workers

[Antonio Menezes]

Towards the end of the nineteenth century, the British empire
builders wanted to exploit the rich Kenya Highlands region by
constructing a railway line from Mombasa to Nairobi.The building
of the railway line  was entrusted to British Railway engineers
who had vast experience  in connecting various cities to  each
other in India.
They wanted experienced railway construction workers  and they
found them in northern India .  These workers were shipped
from Karachi port serving the then northern India to Mombasa.
These type of workers could not possibly come from Goa  as
they had little experience with permanent  way construction work

[Goanet] Goan Slaves or Indentured by Brits

[Bernado Colaco]

 I writing this in view that the brits were the largest slave traders together 
with the dutch, and Goans may have worked in salt pans in East Africa after 
getting some apprenticeship in Goa.
--- You wondered  how many Goanetters or their 
forefathers were taken by the
brits as coolies or indentured labour to East Africa?


Adolfo

In great surprise


  

[Goanet] Goanet] Slave Trade

[Dom Martin]

My latefather, Vincent Xavier Verodiano Martin, whose academic credentialswere 
“segundgrao” -- left home at age 12, worked as a coolie atthe Bombay docks, 
slept thereon, later enlisted in the Royal IndianNavy and rose to the rank of 
Chief Petty Officer. The highestposition the British allowed Indians in the 
Royal Navy was the rankof lieutenant. My father's commanding officer was Lt. 
SardarilalMathradas Nanda, who, after India's independence, went on to become 
Admiral of the Indian Navy.
Note:  My father was onboard HMS Indus in the epic WWII sinking of the mighty 
German battleship, Bismarck. At the onslaught, HMS Indus waspositioned behind 
HMS Hood. A single salvo from Bismarck sent Hoodto the bottom of the ocean 
within 3 mins, leaving no survivors. Inthat lightning skirmish, the rest of the 
British naval fleet hastenedretreat, regrouped and then hounded Bismarck to its 
watery grave. 
Althoughmy father's career originated as a "coolie", he was not enlisted by 
the“Brits” to serve East Africa as a “coolie”. He migrated andtranscended that 
status on his own. I salute his extraordinary gritand remain eternally indebted.
DomMartin
_Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 10:46:36 + (UTC)
From: Bernado Colaco 
To: 
Subject: [Goanet] Slave Trade
Message-ID: <26953537.1672756.1588589196...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 I wonder how many Goanetters or their forefathers were taken by the brits as 
coolies or indentured labour to East Africa?
BC
Soon after Portuguese conquered Goa, it became the main port to trade slaves 
brought from Portuguese enclave from Africa.? The slaves were shipped from Goa 
to Ceylon and as far away to Macao.? The Mhamai Kamats (whose ancestral house 
is just behind Governor's residence in Panjim) were one of the main slave 
traders in Goa.?

[Goanet] GOA GOVERNMENT BREACHING THE LAW

[Aires Rodrigues]

The use of our national flag is regulated by the Emblems and Names
(Prevention of Improper Use) Act, 1950, the Prevention of Insults to
National Honour Act, 1971 and the Flag Code of India 2002.

On the explicit and bizarre directions of the then very ailing Chief
Minister Manohar Parrikar, a  huge national flag was hoisted on a very high
pole erected at the Panaji end of the third Mandovi Bridge, just before its
inauguration in January last year.

Infact as the national flag is hoisted only at vital government
institutions, that skewed thought of the very hoisting on the road side of
the bridge was making a mockery of the sanctity and solemnity of our very
revered national flag.

Besides the national flag can be only hoisted from sunrise to sunset and
must be lowered every evening which is not being done in this case. The
construction and inauguration of the bridge was hastily carried out with
all its flaws. Sadly, the reverential treatment of our flag especially the
lowering of it and respect for the law was not part of that haste. The
authorities are clearly and blatantly high-handedly acting contrary to the
law.

Nobody is above the law and nobody should misuse or insult our National
flag which is much more than cloth and ink. It is a national symbol of our
unity, liberty and freedom and must therefore be strictly respected and
treated with reverence in accordance with the law. It is only by rigorously
observing the relevant laws and regulations, that the dignity and honour of
our Flag can be maintained.

Nothing can be expected from Pramod Sawant the current Chief Minister who
even within his cabinet is better known as Mr. Property Sawant. But the
Chief Secretary Parimal Rai and Acting DGP Jaspal Singh cannot be mere
spectators to the Rule of law being reduced to an Ass!



Aires Rodrigues

Advocate High Court

C/G-2, Shopping Complex

Ribandar Retreat,

Ribandar – Goa – 403006

Mobile No: 9822684372

Office Tel  No: (0832) 2444012

Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com

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Re: [Goanet] The Plight of The Precolonial Jews

[Voznadik Vojem]

Specially if the orange juice came from the orchards of Jaffa in the
oldest part of Tel Aviv. Sitting there at  Aveninda de Liberdade
overlooking the majestic statue of Marquis de Pombal sipping my Yaffa
orange juice and contemplating about the Jewish diaspora.

By sixteenth century  the Jewish (Shephardic) had spread far and wide
including Goa, Ormuz and Malacca In Goa, they were perceived as a
threat and the Portuguese complained to Lisbon about "gente de nacao"
or "homens do nacao" a term referred in europe as "men of nations"

Much changed with the arrival of  of 1st Marquis de Pombal when he
took reigns in 1750.  It was a time of great upheaval and
inquisitions.  He was well known to opposition of Jesuits and Jews
alike and the rest is history.

Abhar,

Voznadik Vojem

-

I better talk to the plants… Garcia de Orta or maybe there  might be clues
in the Orange Juice

Adolfo

Re: [Goanet] Slave Trade Message-ID:

[Voznadik Vojem]

I am very much illuminated and enlightened by your version of history,
At the risk of boring readers please allow me to state as follows;

Palacio de Hildacao,or Adil Shah' Palace (or the Secretariat as you prefer
to call it) was the residence of Portuguese Governor/Viceroy.  It is
recorded in history books that the Governor used to use back door to visit
Mhamai Kamat.

Sometime in 1843 or so and soon after the plague devastated the city of
goa(Cidade de Goa), the capital was moved to Panjim and was called "Nova
Goa".

Abhar,
Voznadik Vojem

---


The Governor's residence is at Raj
Bhawan in Dona Paula. The Mhamai Kamats have lived for centuries behind
Adil Shah's Palace, the former Secretariat of Goa, post December 1961.

And Cidade de Goa was another name for Panjim. Old Goa is Velha Goa, not to
be confused with Goa Velha another village.