[Goanet] Goanet] Answer to the missing chapters i n the Bible
Hello Albert, It's not a noise, but a query of many who maybe curious as to why different denomination of Christians who pray to the same God, have different number of books. As a catholic who has rarely read the bible, I would feel that that is discrimination, why more for me who does not read, and less for those who read everyday? Isn't that so? That is a normal thing for all, not only for books but for other things too. Yes, it's a curiosity that made me ask this question, and I assumed that the person who answered this query would satisfy me, but unfortunately, you being a teacher, did nothing of such, on the other hand your reply was an angry retort. Your answer made me more confused, that from the 66 books you refer to, you feel they too are too many for you, as you say only 6 books are more than enough, i.e., Genesis, Exodus, and the four gospels from the New Testament. So now what is it exactly you are trying to convey? Let me remind that the Catholics do not venerate Mother Mary as a God, rival to The Almighty but as a mother guiding, consoling, etc her children to God. As we have not seen the Almighty, these Crosses, Saints etc are just reminders to make us remember God. They are reminders of the good deeds done by them to Glorify The Almighty. Did The Almighty choose Mother Mary for one time use to bring The Saviour in this world and then discard her completely? Even Mother Mary had miraculous birth, same like Isaac and so God had some purpose for this, don't you think so? When Mother Mary went to Elizabeth after receiving the news of her pregnancy, Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit and exclaimed that she was honored to be visited by The Mother of God. I do not have the complete exact lines right now but one can find them in any Bible. The Bible is more than a guide or reference book. To make life simple, there are only two commandments given by The Lord Jesus, Honour they God and The second is love one another as I have loved you. Hatred comes from the evil one. Cheers Jerry Fernandes From: "Albert Desouza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] Answer to the missing chapters i n the Bible To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Albert writes Every one is making noise that the believers bible has only 66 books whereas the catholic bible has 73. Good. In reality one needs only Genesis to know what God wants from you and what is the relationship between God and you, Exodus to know the ten commandments,Mathew or Luke and we need John.How many of us are ever following what is in the Bible? In Genesis the Lord tells us to increase and multiply and fill the earth. While giving the 10 commandments the Lord God has clearly told us not to use idols in the form of animals, snakes, or human form to describe God. I t is also to be understood that God does not like rivals before Him. He is heart and soul of earth and heaven. Jesus also says "I am the truth if u want to go to my fater come to me."What is the use of boasting of 73 books when we do things contrary? We have made Mary another God rival to the existing one. We have saints and mary to help us to go to God. Albert --- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Administrator. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Jarir Bookstore ..not just a bookstore Visit us: www.jarirbookstore.com 24/8/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] India, A favored destination for education
Hello Goans A favored destination for education ( some extracts taken from Arab News Riyadh written by Javid Hassan) India is fast becoming a favored destination for education with students from over 30 countries pursuing higher education in India, with costs a fraction of what it is costing in either UK or USA. What is costing 10,000 US dollars in India for 3 years inclusive of tution fees and living cost for graduation studies, its almost 80, 000 in USA and 56000 in UK. India has over 310 Universities consisting of 52 Deemed Universities, 162 traditional universities, 40 agricultural/forestry/fisheries/vetenary universities, 36 engineering and technology universities and 18 medical universities. Besides this, there are over 15500 colleges of engineering, medical, arts, humanities, social sciences, commerce, science and management education. Every Indian university has English as the medium of instruction and most Indian universities consider a sound knowledge of English a prerequisite for pursuing higher education. Most of the professional courses like science and technical subjects, English is exclusively used for teaching purposes. Postgraduate education is taught in English in most of the educational institutes. One important thing is that India has the third largest English speaking population in the world. This makes the foreign nationals feel at home. The quality of education is comparable to the best available anywhere in the world. And the costs are moderate and affordable. Coming to Goa, I remember I had read somewhere that Goa had the first and the best university during the Portuguese era in the whole of Asia. If I am not mistaken, it was located in Reis Magos? Goa too used to get students from different parts of the world for their education. Wonder what happened? Coming to the present times, it surprises me that the ministers elected by the people of Goa seems to hate Goans succeeding in the world, hence they refuse the English medium, even when it has been suggested to impose one subject of English from Primary. No wonder the education is suffering in Goa, and many don't even complete SSC. Cheers Jerry Fernandes --- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Administrator. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Jarir Bookstore ..not just a bookstore Visit us: www.jarirbookstore.com 21/8/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Sonapur Church
Hi, There is also one house in the lane of David and Co, which caters food and is crowded in the afternoons, with lots of Goans who eat there. I believe the people who do the catering are Mangloreans. It was a chance happening that I heard of this place and really enjoyed the food. As for Hotel Vienna, its now a lodging with rooms available. Last time I had gone there, their restaurant business had closed down. As for the water melon juice as mentioned by Eugene, I tried in Mapuca in the cold drink shop near the temple, ( not Hanuman cold drink shop) and it really sucked, I would give 100 marks for the one available in Kayani. Cheers Jerry Fernandes From: Edward Verdes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Sonapur Church To: "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Eugene, Bastani is closed, Kyani is still open... In Jan when I went down for my usual quota of Konkani music cassettes, Bastani was closed. I remember the cashier used to keep a live cock at the cash counter. On 3rd Marine street, there is a restaurant 'Nova Goa' but they were not so good. Edward Verdes > It was mentioned that Joe Rose had a restaurant. His > father had a hair-cutting saloon. > As for the other Goan restaurants, Snowflake is still > running. But the restaurant is divided, with one part > as a nursery school. > Last year had bread pudding and "market" (chai/coffee > mix), later same week watermelon juice at Bastani. > Surprised to know Kyani closed down. > In Toronto, a new Indian restaurant has been started > by Goans who served Goan dishes. It had a stall at > Viva Goa and from where I ordered bhel puri. The > lineup for Goan dishes was too long. > > eugene --- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Administrator. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Jarir Bookstore ..not just a bookstore Visit us: www.jarirbookstore.com 17/8/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] WE ARE FREE TO CHOOSE OUR BANKERS
Hi, Banking has certainly come of age in India, but as per the mails we read, the service is provided is not up to the standard unless one does know someone at the bank, or one opens his/her account in the Village. With the free hand given to private banks by the government and also international banks, there is a big scope for better service oriented banks, but the catch is the deposites. Some years ago, when I did check, CityBank required 25000 as its permanent balance account, ANZ Grindleys required 5000 and Hongkong Bank required 1. This I believe is almost 7-8 years ago. I have no idea about it now. No wonder they give all the services available, when our Nationalized banks you can have even 100 rupees. But still I feel the Nationalized banks are risk free place to keep the money. Even our private banks namely the cooperative banks are risky, like the last time I heard of Mapuca Urban Cooperative bank. There was also an incident of one International bank few years back, I believe its BCCI having their office in Mumbai, belonging to a Pakistani. Also As another person mentioned, best is to open the accounts in Village banks, where you get the best service, and you are on friendly terms with the Bank Manager, who can guide you in the banking procedures. If not have someone who is either a good friend, or relative, in the bank who can do the work for you whilst you go to the caffetaria to have a cup to tea with nice ussal baji or sip some beer. Cheers Jerry Fernandes Abel Wrote : To: goanet@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 4:05 PM Subject: WE ARE FREE TO CHOOSE OUR BANKERS Banking has come of age in India and most of the private banks have put shop in Goa. We are free to choose our banks. If one does not like the service of a particular bank you can open in another good bank. I have accounts in nationalised as well as private banks. With competition on the rise, their services are far more better than what it was 10 years back. so not to worry to take advantage of modern banking facilities and one will find banking a lot more easier and convienent. 17000 crore of Goan money in banks, than they should treat us like kings !!! after all CUSTOMR IS STILL THE KING kind regards R. Abel Fernandes Margao --- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Administrator. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Jarir Bookstore ..not just a bookstore Visit us: www.jarirbookstore.com 12/8/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] St. Xaviers Shuts Carnac Road Chapel.
Hello Eric, Indeed it’s very sad news given by Eric, about the Carnac Road Chapel. It was the most frequented chapel for me during my three years residence in Mumbai, just next to Metro Cinema. As it was a walking distance, I can say equal walking distance also to Our Lady of Dollars, but preferred to this chapel, I will certainly miss it on my trips to mumbai. Thanks for bringing this information. Atleast I wont be shocked when I land in Mumbai. Cheers Jerry Fernandes Wed, 09 Aug 2006 01:06:50 -0400 From: eric pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Goanet] St. Xaviers Shuts Carnac Road Chapel. It was not a Parish, but the School's chapel filled in for generations of Marine Line - Crawford folk, specially the 8 am Choir Mass. I have learnt that the Jesuit fathers have shut it's doors, a response to falling attendance: most Crawford Market catholics have now moved on. It had been magnificently renovated in the early 60's: at the helm of inspiration/design/architecture was Basque native, Rev. Molinet - he had taught us french. It would never have happened, however, without the Barcelona duo, Bro. Munoz and Bro. Hernandez, master craftsmen who never appeared to put their chisells down. I really meant to remember the Choir, doing this today. My eyes well at the memory of the guys swinging out ' we pray to God and for his mercy, --- - to thee we bring our joys and sorrow ', Ignatius Day's 'Noble Night', and always, the National Jana Gana Mana ! Thank you so much, the late Conductors Paul Frank, Victor Coelho, solists Trevor Taylor/Stanley Pinto, not to omit the Director, the Rev. Bonet.eric. --- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Administrator. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Jarir Bookstore ..not just a bookstore Visit us: www.jarirbookstore.com 12/8/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Patollio or Patoyo
Hello Joe, There is also a Srilankan sweet dish called Halapa, made with Halldi panam. It does taste like Patollio, but they use natchne in it. Could someone please give the english word for natchne the small brown grains? Cheers Jerry Fernandes JoeGoaUk wrote Patollio or Patoyo August month is the month of ?Patollio? Patollio or patoyo is one of the Goan delicacies. It gives nice flovour when it is done on turmeric leaves ?Halldi panam? or ?patolle panam?. These leave are readily available by end of July and whole of August/Sept. End of Julu and early August, these leaves are even available for sale say Rs.5 a bundle of 12 leaves. Patollio are are made up of flour, coconut and jaggary. Either baked or steamed. Besides, Christian in Goa, Hindus too make patollio on their ?nagpanchami? festival. Patollio are also very popular in Kerala --- This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this e-mail in error please notify the Administrator. Please note that any views or opinions presented in this e-mail are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. Finally, the recipient should check this e-mail and any attachment for the presence of viruses. The company accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this e-mail. Jarir Bookstore ..not just a bookstore Visit us: www.jarirbookstore.com 12/8/2006 ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Can a Christian be a Communist?
Goanetters visiting Viva Goa 2006 in Toronto, Canada on July 29, can use the BMX booth as a meeting point. Please list your name on the message board that will be provided, courtesy of BMX. http://bmxgoa.com Hi, I wonder where the this thread is leading to. The subject line seems to be forgotten as it says, can a Christian be a communist? Can he or can’t he? As far as I know, communism is not a religion but a form of Government. If a communist can be democrat than he can also be a communist isn’t it? See we have former Russia as communist country but they are orthodox Christians. If China has banned Christianity, does it mean, there are no Christians in China? I believe they have underground churches for their worship, and gradually its opening for that too, with many embracing Islam too. According to Karl Marx the favourite quoted communist of Vidyadhar Gadgiland Friedrich Engels, The theory of communism may be summed up in one sentence : Abolish all private property. According to another deffination, “The theory which teaches that the labor and the income of society should be distributed equally among all its members by some constituted authority. Cheers Jerry Fernandes From: Mario Goveia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Goanet] Can a Christian be a Communist? To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!" Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 --- Vidyadhar Gadgil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Usually I avoid getting into these debates because > they drag on endlessly and the noise levels are > high, i.e. there is not much useful content. > Mario observes: > Vidhyadhar, Good idea. When one cannot stand the heat it is far better to claim the moral high ground and exit the kitchen. > Vidhydhar writes: > > One point here, why do we accept 'godless' in its > pejorative sense as a word of abuse? If 'godless' > means being an atheist, what's wrong with > that? > Mario responds: > Vidhyadhar, this is called building a straw man and then jousting with him. No one other than yourself has used "godless" as a pejorative. It was simply used as a descriptive. Unless you have followed this debate you would know that no one said that there was anything wrong with being an atheist if that is what you want to be. There are NO consequences on this earth and you are welcome to take your chances thereafter. > Since you seem to have missed the crux of the matter, the point that was made and widely misunderstood by the anti-religious faction on Goanet is that we have no way of knowing what moral code is being followed by each and every unorganzied individual out there. Instead, one self appointed spokesman for all atheists took umbrage at this and demanded that we agree that all atheists had developed admirable moral codes because they had engaged in serious independent study and research and deep introspection. We never learned how he would know what everyone else had done. > Vidhyadhar writes: > > Why do atheists come in for so much abuse on > Goanet? > Mario observes: > A second straw man in the same post. Since this post seems to have eluded you completely how do we convince you that it was the religious types that came in for abuse? To understand this you would have to go back and read everything from the beginning. I'm not sure you are up to such "serious independent study and research and deep introspection." > Vidhyadhar writes: > > As Santosh Helekar and others have repeatedly > pointed out, belief in a God or religion often has > only peripheral overlap with having a good code and > practice of ethics and conduct. And if you believe > in a God, fine, it's your opinion, but why do > people get so excited and upset about people who > don't? > Mario asks: > Is this a third straw man or a straw woman mate of one of the other two? No matter. The only people who got excited were the anti-religious types who took umbrage with a simple observation as I have outlined above. Besides, isn't it you who asks us on behalf of Karl Marx in every post to "Question everything?" Apparently I took this more seriously than you do. And I'm the one who thinks that this is the ONLY sensible thing that old Karl ever said in public. Funny thing is that HE did not follow his own advice either:-)) > Viodhyadhar writes: > > So, yeah, put me down as a 'godless commie' on the > same page, no problems :-) > -- > Question everything -- Karl Marx > Mario adds: > OK. You replace Aristo on the "Godless commie" list. > BTW, there is only one list. As I explained to Aristo, "Godless" and Commie" go together like white on rice. Aristo thought that Commies were religious types, apparently from wandering into the wrong part of Google. > -
