[Goanet] Reply to Bhandare for Selma
WWW.GOANET.ORG *** A N N O U N C E M E N T Launching Goanet-sports - Dedicated to Sports in Goa and Goans in Sports Get your free subscription at: http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-sports-goanet.org Hi Bhandare, Speak for yourself, it is YOU who spits and runs. You said your ideology is RSS, yet when cornered you said 'I have no Ideology or Religion'. Selma said (to put it in plan words for you) that uneducated people do the fighting for the rich when they are given money by the rich to fight for them to gain power. UNDERSTOOD? You can give list to thy kingdom come, you do not understand the politics behind the motive of RSS and such like, you are one of the so called educated (who reads news papers) but WITHOUT true knowledge. Like all the ranting you have done before; You want us to list our faults so that you can take advantage of our knowledge and failings, so that in the end you can hange us by the insite that you have gained from people like Selma, George, Carvalho and such like, served on a plate. You can then pass it on to you RSS membership listings. Goanet has become an entertainment for RSS people like you, other than that it is a waste of time. Afra. - Dear Selma:Your argument was that fundamentalism springs frompoverty and lack of education. I have given you examples of wealthy educated peoplewho are the biggest supporters of extremismex. wealthy gujratis and jainsex. higly educated islamic terrorists Can u respond to the above two examples?If you think I have made some absurd statements pleaselist them so that I can respond unless this is one ofur spit and run techniquesOnce again be specificregardsBhandare
[Goanet] Sun God?
--- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Some one said on goanet that Albert was a teacher: What did he teach: Albert Said: 1. I do not know whether my ancestors were hindus or muslims. Reply: Do your home work before you teach or preach. Do not hit on what we already know. 2. whether force was used or any other means I really do not know. Reply: For goodness sake WHAT DO YOU KNOW 3.There are so many catholics still visit the hindu temples not as mere tourist but as active members. Reply: Good for them. There are some who visit faith healers.If they can't find one they go to Hindu temples. NOT BECAUSE OF THEIR HINDU GENES. 4.Before Jesus made his entry the romans believed in sun god. They celebrated the feast of this sun god on 25th December every year with great pomp and gaiety.Some of them also had greek influence. Reply: So! Romans celebrated sun god, what proof have you got? As to why they did that? You did not eleborate. IS IT BECAUSE YOU DONT KNOW? Why are you wasting Goanet space with topics that you don't know? Have we learnt any thing from your posting?
[Goanet] Decency lost?
--- CONVENTION OF THE GOAN DIASPORA FROM GOA INTO THE WORLD Lisbon, Portugal June 15-17, 2007 Details at: http://www.casadegoa.org --- Tue Jun 5 01:32:21 PDT 2007Bonefacio,Goa cannot improve with Dukors like you. Why did you not get into IIT and become an engineer ?Goa will be a better place when Dukors like you leave en masse for good. - Why is foul language like this allowed on the goanet? Is Dukor Carmo now loosing his mind because Ducor Parrikar lost? If Ducor can be used it can now use it 10 times and name Ducor Carmo as Ducor Carmo of the Year. Afra. By the way - Ducor Carmo has left Goa and is living in Smelly Filthy Florida HARBOUR. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070605/6d88336a/attachment.html --- Goanet recommends, and is proud to be associated with, 'Domnic's Goa' - A nostalgic romp through a bygone era. This book is the perfect gift for any Goan, or anyone wanting to understand Goa. Distributed locally by Broadway, near Caculo Island, Panjim & internationally by OtherIndiaBookStore.Com. For trade enquiries contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---
[Goanet] Caste System in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * To Goa with Love - Three unique Valentine Day packages from EXPRESSIONS Say "I Love You!" in style this year For details, photos and pricing check out: http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/valentines/ Hi Joe Goa, First of all it was NOT a healthy discussion, and certainly not important. God created skin colour not the church, people who are fair tend to call themselves bamon, that is what I meant. Secondly, Bamon, Chardi or Sudir do not interfere with the day to day chores, people in Goa are not out casted or treated as untouchables, they can seat freely anywhere in the church or playground or buses. It is the church who take money from people and write their names on marble in front of the church and allocated benches in 'front of the church', this is worse than Caste System. Caste system in Goa does not thwart the day to day running of Goa like it does in the rest of India. I have seen Bamon labourers too. Caste System is used only in marriages, and marriages only. Why? May be because the others did not come with land and money. Those who complain on this net, are the ones who fell in love with a bamon girl and were not allowed to marry them. Afra. - Joe Goa says: When an important and healthy discussion was going on Goanet about the Church and the caste system in in church, Afra de GoaUk said...If you are born in a low caste family (i.e. Kunbi Sudhir etc) and that is bothering you, ask God about that and ask him/her to put it right, not the Parish Priest, bashing the church is not going to solve age old practice.? (on 23 Jan.2007)
[Goanet] Meeting in Bishop's house
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * To Goa with Love - Three unique Valentine Day packages from EXPRESSIONS Say "I Love You!" in style this year For details, photos and pricing check out: http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/valentines/ Cip is full of 'hot air and 'no substance'. Some one said such and such, will any one give more info. Some says this and that, and we will make a video. Will pay ur fees and expenses. Etc Etc. But nothing is forthcoming. He is a waste of time. In this day and age any one saying 'Aunv Bamon Padri' is laughable. So, Cip, get your facts right first, before you start 'stiring' on Goanet and winding people up un-necessarily. Afra. - Cip Wrote: Last monsoon, Office of the Bishop had called a meeting in the Bishop House, however, Bishop was not present for the meeting. "'Aunv Bamon Padri' and I am proud of it." Need to know whether this statement is recorded in the minutes of the meeting and who is the CASTIST priest who said it. All fees and expenses will be reimbursed, whoever can get me the above information. Cip
[Goanet] Name the corrupt priests, please.
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * To Goa with Love - Three unique Valentine Day packages from EXPRESSIONS Say "I Love You!" in style this year For details, photos and pricing check out: http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/valentines/ Dear Cip, If you and your fellow have the guts, please name these priests. If not all I can say is that you and your fellow had your advances rejected by the priest you approached and this is the backlash you are giving all the good Goan priest who are doing a very good job in Goa. - Cip said: Glenda is doing a very good job by exposing our FEW unscrupulous Goan priests... Glenda please carry on your good work of exposing these few unscrupulous, drunkard, corrupt priests. So far, few of us have taken a task to identify these Watch out for the evidence we collected so far to view over the INTERNET. - Go ahead NAME THEM. Not all Goan Priests are corrupt. Afra.
[Goanet] Maharastra society act of 1868
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * To Goa with Love - Three unique Valentine Day packages from EXPRESSIONS Say "I Love You!" in style this year For details, photos and pricing check out: http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/valentines/ Dear Fr L Pereira, There is no need to give information to people who are not qualified to understand ANY information given to them. Any information given will be responded with more meaningless questions. This is not a reply to the below but, a request to you, to IGNORE people who have made it a hobby in their old age to pass their time Goan priest bashing, their productive time is over, any reply will fall on deaf ears. Afra. Glenda wrote: Dear Fr.Loyola Pereira This is the fifth time I am asking you for some information needed by me. I would like to know under what name is the catholic church registered under the Maharastra society act of 1868 and who are its members and the names of the executive members. You seems to be evading this question because you do not want to give out the secret of members in this society. Glenda Viegas
[Goanet] Swastika in India!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * To Goa with Love - Three unique Valentine Day packages from EXPRESSIONS Say "I Love You!" in style this year For details, photos and pricing check out: http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/valentines/ Dear Sachin, The question now arises: The Scandinavian countries have banned Indian Ladies from wearing sarees. Saying, it is a Religious garment Should India do the same? The Eastern Countries (formerly Communist block) has banned people from practising Yoga Exercises. Saying, it is Devil worship. Should India do the same? Please tell me who started the WWII and why? The answer to your below question is simple. Do we always have to copy the white people? Who asked the Nazis to use the Swastika in the first place? Who says India uses Swastika? and what is Swastika? Lakshmi Chakra is NOT SWASTIKA.(it may look like it) If Germans have use the Lakshimi Chakra as their Swastika to kill non white people than Germany owes us an apology and has to pay us compensation for the rest of their lives, for defamation. Conclusion: Swastika in Europe is wrong. Indians do not use swastika in India, it is Lakshmi Chakra and it is therefore a religious symbol. Does this answer your below question? Afra. Sachin wrote: The issue that I would like you to deal with is whether you think that the move to ban the swastika in Europe is right or wrong? And if you think it is wrong, do you think that the Government of India should take up the issue?
[Goanet] Glenda vs Vatican
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Glenda Wrote, Dear Borg Has the church provided us with any forum to voice our grievances? I have written to the bishop's house at least two or three times in the past but no reply. We do not have any meetings as such and so how to voice our resentments? could you give us an idea to bring to the notice of the bishop the unwanted things going on in the church? I would be obliged. Glenda. --- Afra says: Obviously you have got no idea how 'the illuminate' operate or even who and what they are. You are obsessed with the donations you gave and what happened to it. Well:- 1) How much does the Vatican want from the registered Churches? Why do they want it, what do they do with it. 2) How much does the Vatican give us in subsidies? Some churches get hand outs from the Vatican other do not AT ALL. 3) Why does the Vatican have their own Currency and Rule of Law independent of Italy? Did you know that Vatican is an indepenent Country (State) within a Country? Who collects the Taxes for its running? (like India collects Taxes). to pay for the Swiss Guards, repairs to the St Peter's Dome etc. 4) Who pays for the Cardinals when they go for state visits to Rome? DO YOU WANT TO KNOW ALL THIS? IS THERE AN END TO YOUR DEMANDS? AND THE VATICAN IS GOING TO GIVE ALL THIS INFORMATION FOR THE ASKING? On Goanet.org? Afra.
Re: [Goanet] simple truths
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Tony, You have got into the habit of spliting hairs. Bada Din is not an educated phrase used by the acadamic non Christians it is a word use in GENERAL it does not PERTAIN specifically to day OR night. Secondly A or AN I know what to use when. But this forum is NOT AN ESSAY OR COMPOSITION competition, no prizes or pass or fails for using A or AN in the wrong places. I stand corrected coz you got nothing better to do but to pick on peoples spellings and grammar. Afra. On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 Anthony M Barreto wrote : >Dear Afra >The Saturnian feast IS called'bada din'. OK no dispute >there. >But I am sure I don't need to even step out of my >house, forget travelling across India, to know a >simple fact i.e. if the night is long it easily >follows that the day has to be short. >Conversely if it is a bada din the night has to be >short.
[Goanet] Saturnian feast IS called'bada din' in India.
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Tony Martin, 1.New Moon understandable. Birth of the New Sun never mind. Never heard too. Whatever happened to the old sun. Response: Obviously you have never heard of the ancient 'saturnian holiday'. What you have never heard that does not mean it does not exists. What ever happened to the old moon? as well, I may well ask. 2.Anyway how can the longest night be a bada din? This is certainly against simple logic. Elementary dear Afra Elementary. Response: I understand by this statement that you have not travel India much (just to B'bay and back to Goa). Ask the Indians especially the BJPs 'India wide', why do they say Christianity is a whiteman's Religion when Christ was and is not an European by birth. Taking about logic is one thing, knowing what logic IS, is another. Afra
[Goanet] Priest Bashing on Goanet gone mad
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Goans, Borgee wrote: From: borg costa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear Glenda, You are correct, we have the right to to know where our money is going. But i feel this is not the place to discuss about the priest's wrong doing. How many times did you read about the hindu Priest's of the Muslims Mulla on this site? mind you that people from other relegion are reading what you write... To end "Padri hozar lokhachi patkam boxita, punn teach padrin ek patok kelem zalear ami taka Khursak ki-llitat" chintt.. God bless you!!! mog assumdi!!! borgee - Afra says: The above is true, Sikhs collect money at every occasion including wedding parties, birthdays, street, you name the place they are there collecting money for their Gurdwara; so are Muslims, billions donated out of Oil money (West Capitalist's money buying Mid Eastern Oil) to build Mosques in the Western Countries, which are then used to bomb the west (Finsbury Park Mosque is one very good example). Money collected by the priests have not killed any one. Goanet is a cheap shot at the priests, Glenda and others like her can complain via the Catholic News papers. What did Priests do with Edward's mum's money they took from her for eating meat on Fridays in the 50's? Is this the place to wash your dirty linen? If you gave money as charity, charity is nameless, do not ask for receipt in your old age? Afra.
[Goanet] Hubby means Husband
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Goans, Seby Viegas wrote: Hubby is the short form of husband. To be frank I do not have mastery over computers.and i do not need any mastery myself. My children are dealing with our computer. This computer was given to my daughter for one thousand rupees long a ago under the cyberage scheme. I do not know how to have email id and I am not interested as my wife deals with all our correspondence and I use her email id. If she has no objection who is this Anthony Martin to dictate to me, --- Hi Seby, You are NOT supposed to use your childrens computer, it is given to the children below cost price to do their homework, not for parents. You are not supposed to get on it to develop a heart attack, leave the computer alone, let your wife do the 'Priest bashing'; she is good at it. That is the only topic she is embroiled into. Get your own computer, using subsidised machinery to do Religious bashing like 'Get rid of the swastika, don't piss on the church walls', as if there is nothing better to write is not a good thing. Afra.
[Goanet] Caste System in Goa vs Church
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Cornel, 1. Has the Church in Goa catagorically said that only brahmins should marry their own caste? 2. If a certain catagory wishes to pactice what their ancesters did, what do you want the church to do, banish them and turn them into Hindus? What power does the church has in this affair? 3. If you are born a Sudir or Kundbi - tough! That does not give you the right to question other peoples belief and practices. 4. If you are born in a low caste family and that is bothering you, ask God about that and ask him/her to put it right, not the Parish Priest, bashing the church is not going to solve age old pactice. 5. Stupid question deserves stupid answers, I do not think the Bishop's office is going to respond to your stupid questions, no matter how many times you write to them. Afra. --- Perhaps, in the near future, as the spokesman for the Bishop's office, I hope that you and your colleague in that same office will respond to three of my posts to you/your office over the past year, asking why the Catholic Church in Goa has historically and to this day, accommodated itself to the racist evil of caste practise? I await your response patiently. Sincerely Cornel DaCosta, London, UK
[Goanet] Reply to Fr.Loyola by Glenda
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Goans, Glenda wrote: 1. Every priests takes a vow before God the vow of poverty, chastity and obedience. Response: Not all priests. If you read the biography of Fr Vaz you will read that, those days a priest had to come from a rich family, so that he could maintain himself, why not now, if he can?. 2.What business has the bishop got to iticise the ministers publicly and absolve the priests from the corruption? Are we reading Dr.Jekyl and Mr. Hyde? Response: Now a days we are living in the 21st century. Bishops have every right to voice their opinion. They represent a community. Jekyl and Hyde in used in the wrong context here. If the Priest and Bishop does not try to put right what is wrong, he will be seen as not doing his duty. Looks like Glenda has got a personal vendetta against the clergy OR is prepared to sacrifice her blood for the BJP cause at the cost of Christianity in Goa. Afra.
[Goanet] Lakshimi Chakra
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Sachin, Are you taking you tablets? - From: "Sachin Phadte" I hope that the Indian government also takes up the issue of the proposal by the German government for a ban on the display of swastika, because it was misused by the Nazis. Sachin Phadte. -- For how long has India been using the Chakra as a Religious Symbol? I'm a Christian and I think there is nothing wrong with the Symbol. German White people missused it to kill non white Jews, now India has to pay the penalty? Sachin see a new doctor, what every he/she has prescribed is not working for you. Afra. PS. As I mentioned time and again, Indians do not understand Racism, Shilpa has! (but not yet) - she will, once she comes out.
[Goanet] Foreign Racism Alive and Kicking In Goa
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Roland, Subject: [Goanet] Foreign Racism Alive and Kicking In Goa Indians in general and Goans in particular need to look into these more important "Shilpa Shetty-like incidents that occur in their own back yard before they raise a hue and cry (though I support it) about something that happens in someone else's country. Roland. --- Afra says, Thanks Roland for pointing out that Goans do not know what Racism is. I have commented a few times explaining in detail the Racism against Shilpa and how it applies to Goans via BJP. None of it has been displayed on this site. It seems to go over the heads of the moderators, who do not understand the nitty gritty of Racism as it implies and think it is offencive. BJPs think the first rock from the sun Mercury (Ganesh) is God and all should prostrated before it by taking a public holiday. While Good Friday is a Christian White man's holiday (not HOLY day) most Indians think that Jesus was a white man. Afra.
[Goanet] Racists in Goa
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Goans, I was the first one to mention Shilpa's predicaments in BB (UK) in response to joegoa saying that some christians have joined the BJP. BJP is a Racist joint and Goans do not understand what racism is. They also do not FULLY understand why Germans killed the Jews, and some one from Goa is writing that because the Germans missued the swastica Indians should give up displaying the Lakshimi Chakra. BJP scraping the Good Friday 'Holy day' is abhorrent and pure racism. Christmas is not a holy day it is a HOLIDAY for EVERYONE, it was that way for time immemorial because the Sun crosses the line between Winter and Summer thus days becoming longer. If Christians want to go to Church that day good luck to them. Good Friday is the Birth of Christianity, there is no substitute. Christians do not HAVE to go to Church as hypocrites. Early Christians did not have Churches to go to yet Christianity survived. If BJP wants to scrap the only Christian 'holyday' as holiday, they should scrap Ganesh in Mahrasthra and Durga in Bengal. Afra.
[Goanet] Cancellation of good friday
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Goans, From: "Gllenda Viegas" Dear Goanetters How many of us are really interested in good friday? The services are held in the evenings. It starts after 3 pm and people are seen attending the service even after 5 pm. If services are held inside the church people take the advantage of crowded church to stand outside and smoke and talk politics. How much holy are we? Morning time is utilised to visit bazaar, --- Resp: Just because ur friends are not holy and do not visit POTTA that does not mean that all of POTTA visiting people should be deprived of the HOLY Day. Christianity is based on what happened on Good Friday. If you do not agree with me - thats fine. It is said in the Bible that God said: If there is one holy person among you who believes in me, I will not destroy the world again. Your friends can do what they like on Good Friday, for the sake of Potta visiting people at least (I'm one of them) - LAY IT OFF. Afra.
[Goanet] Maruti Cars and Priests
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Goans, Thanks to Basilio. Some people who do not own cars are jealous of the ones who have, Basilio. And, they are bent on picking on the priests. Afra. -- From: Basilio G Monteiro Dear Gllenda (sic) Viegas: The question you have raised about many priests owning cars is on the minds of a number of folks in Goa. It stands to reason why you are puzzled about it. In proportion to their income how can priests afford to own and maintain a car in Goa? This is a legitimate question.
[Goanet] MP he can't be that BAD?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Hi Joe Goa, We (from Goa) cannot comment on the TV show 'Big Brother' telelcast in UK. Similarly, UK people cannot comment on TV programes in Goa. To talk about any programe one has to be there to watch that programe in that country. Resp: I didn't ask for your response. I was just pointing out the ignorance that the Indians have regards RACE (Indians only know Caste and Outsiders) Shilpa first said she was racially abused and then she withdrew her statement under pressure and spotlight, because she is a guest in UK. Now, coming to the 'Good Friday' point. Resp: Christians have only two main holidays. Good Friday is more important than Christmas. Good Friday is as important as Ganesh Festival. Because Christianity is based on what happened on Good Friday. Whitout Good Friday Christianity would not exist. Therefore I say that MP is and IGNORANT B*d. Afra. PS. Christmas is not just a Christian Holiday. According to the Hindu Almanac 25th December is the longest night, and so it is, BADA DIN. Birth of the New Sun for the Coming Year.
[Goanet] Shilpa Shetty and Racism in UK
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro Gabe informed us: Speaking for many British Indians, actress, comedian and writer Meera Syal said, "What this treatment of Shilpa has done is remind a lot of Asian people in Britain of the type of uncomfortable treatment they've received themselves over the years.---" Resp: I for one congratulate C4 for bringing, Beauty & Bigot together. And, I admire the dignity and sophistication of Silpa. According to Shilpa, 'if this is Britain - it is scarey'. Jade is the darling of Great Britain she is a Celebrity. If Shilpa says Jade is Racist than she is saying the whole of UK together with their darling is racist, Shilpa is a Guest in UK and living with Big Brother as their guest, if BB says Jade is NOT RACIST. Who is she to argue? Afra.
[Goanet] M. Parikar?
http://www.GOANET.org This month's Goanet operations sponsored by Mrs. Daisy Faleiro To sponsor Goanet operations, contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All, Joe goa uk says: So, where is the question of Communalism ? Mr. Parrikar, can you please come out at least with a half page newspaper ad to clear out any doubts etc ? Will I vote Parrikar now ? - Undecided. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Afra says: Those who have joined BJP have done so because the safe seats in the congress or any other party is not vacant. Those Christians who are in it are in it for what they can get. They have not read or do not know about the BJP manifesto. Like Shilpa Shetty who is now in Big Brother (UK). She is verbally abused and all sorts of racists remarks are hurled at her by her fellow housemates; but she is oblivious to it, because she has not experienced racisim. Will she be wiser when she comes out? But the candidates of the BJP are mixture of both, crooks as well as ignorant of the facts. They 'do not' want to know the facts. Undecided? Joegoa! you have stayed in Goa for too long now, you are getting soft in the head like the rest of them. Afra. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20070115/5d6e22b9/attachment.htm
[Goanet] Parikar the opportunist
WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to: Nodal Officer & District Collector (Goa) Mr. Nikhil Kumar Office: 2223612; Residence (after 8PM): 2420710; mobile 9822123071 Valmiki says: But as I've always maintained, Parrikar is the right man in the wrong party. He belongs to a national party whose policies he alone cannot change. If he quits and floats a local outfit, with non-sectarian minded people, the course of Goa's politics will change for the better. Regards, Valmiki - Afra says: If Parikar is such a clever fool, why has he joined the wrong party? No one forced him to join the BJP. Right man in the wrong party? I dont get that. Than he should get out. Obviously he is not clever enought to know that Afra. WWW.GOANET.ORG ** C O M M U N I T Y ** A N N O U N C E M E N T Save Goa Campaign / Goa Bachao Abhiyan Report all violations of Hill-cutting, Coastal Regulation Zone (CRZ) and other Land Use violations to 24-hour Helpline +91 9822684372
[Goanet] Lourdes and Miracles
Hi Goans, Mario wrote: I have seen people go into debt because of their belief that going to Lourdes or Fatima or Medjugorge or Pota is the only thing that will solve their problem. To me that constitutes an unfortunate misunderstanding of the fundamentals of Christian beliefs. Jesus preached and healed in the most unusual places. -Afra Says:- Advertisements now manipulate people's minds. 100 or so years ago, manipulation was done where there was mass gatherings, what better than to do it on a Sunday!!? This is how Lourdes came about:- A business man wanted to transport his goods (parishable) to town from the country side as quickly as he could. 'Railway', was his brainstorm. Having laid the railway line, how was he going to recoup his capital? The King of France (who wanted fresh produce) and his friends came up with an idea (don't forget, the Clergy of those days were in cohert with the rich and the royalty). - MIRACLE IN LOURDES. People bought Railway tickets - Problem solved. Byron once said - "I see crutches, but I don't see any false limbs!". Afra.
[Goanet] Pota and Sai Baba
Hi Goans, Santosh Wrote: Hope is clearly being sold here. I submit to you that even the mildest scientific scrutiny of these miracles would prove that it is false hope. What we are witnessing is not spirituality, but a spiritual business based on deception and false advertisement. This is also true of miracle-mongering Hindu godmen like Satya Sai Baba. Cheers, Santosh - Afra Says, With modern technology (ie) the video camera. Sai Baba's miracles (slight of hands) have been caught on camera. He is now getting old and no more PUBLIC miracles are shown. Besides, he produced gold chains out of thin air only to be present them to the Dignitaries and Ministers who already HAD gold chains, what about the hungry in India? Afra.
[Goanet] Miracles @ Potta
Albert writes: M/S Selma does not believe in miracles taking place at Pota because she has no faith in Jesus. The church may say many things but I will not. Miracles do take place every day in our lives and we do not need the authority of the church to judge the works of God through Jesus. Banning me from writing about God and Jesus is like closing your door of your heart to God. I request Selma to take a trip to Pota and see and feel for your self the presence of God and Jesus Albert. Hi Albert, Been there, done it, bought the goodies. I can catagorically say that Selma is 100% correct. And, no one is stopping you from writing, about the miracles. Miracles DO take place every day - we do not need Mirungur (Pota). Secondly Albert!!! get this right, heart is just a PUMP nothing happens there - ITS ALL IN THE BRAIN. Afra.
[Goanet] Manohar Parrikar will Clean Up the Mess in Goa
Hi Goans, Carmo wrote: From: "CARMO DCRUZ" So I am not really a new fan of Manhoar Parrikar. I have known him long before he graduated from IIT, long before he became an untimely widower, long before he decided to give up the lucrative scholarship opportunities in the US (despite being a world class metallurgical researcher in his undergraduate program), long before he decided to selflessly return to his native Goa and serve in Government. I also know him to be a dedicated problem solver, and a non-communalist - despite all kinds of slurs and labels being hurled at him by the Do-Nothing, Good-for-Nothing Goan Gaon Goon politicians in Goa ! Just as he cleaned up the Mess (Eating Hall and Kitchen) at IIT Bombay in his own effective, efficient and inimmitable, no-nonsense way, l am sure he will clean up the Mess in Goa Governance, all for the Greater Good of Goa Dourada ! Goa could not have been luckier to have the most highly educated and most knowledgeable person on Good Governance to be a Chief Minister Candidate and Goans should sieze the opportunity at the polls in May ! I am firmly convinced that he is the best for Goa ! - Afra says: Mr M Parikar is an opportunist, and opportunists are IN IT FOR THEMSELVES. He took over the Goa Govt. when the Chief Minister was in Australia. M Parikar and his party did not get the full backing of the people, eventually were thrown out, so how can any one in their right mind still say that an opportunist MESS Manager, who was managing the Canteen coz he was getting free meals and other perks can manage Goa? Opportunists work for their selfish benefit. BNP is a racists party, Goa is 80% Hindus. (But still lost, coz majority of Goans are not racists regards religion). If he wants to be the CM of Goa on his good merits let him create his own party and win the election and not ride on a Racist platform. Afra.
[Goanet] Christmas Cards
* * * 2006 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 21, 2006 @ 4:00pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051398.html Hi All, As far as I know, everything starts with a humble begining. The Story of Christmas Cards goes like this: According to Jewish law, a loan has to be repaid within 7 years, after this period the loan has to be scraped. It so happened that a jewish gentleman loaned some money to a christian, 7 years passed, the loan was still oustanding. This Jewish gentleman sent his friend a card TO REMIND him politely that he was not DEAD, and there was no sin for a jew to ask a Christian for the money to be repaid on a festive season, when all Employers paid their employes festive bonuses . Unfortunately this Christian had also lent money to his friends who did not repay him, so, HE sent Cards during Christmas festive season. THE BALL ROLLED. Afra.
[Goanet] God Jesus Christ?
* * * 2006 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 21, 2006 @ 4:00pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051398.html Hi Goans, Jesus NEVER said he was GOD. Who replaced him with GOD? If God made 'Jesus Christ' as man. Why couldn't he/she make him into a woman? After all 'up to 7 weeks, after conception', every one is a female. Therefore, Original sin being female, God could have sent a female to put right what was originally wrong. And, by the way, why do we not find 'human bones' along side the dinosaur bones? Can someone enlighten me on that?!!! Afra. -- " Dear Albert, Yes, we do know that the Koran has some parts of the Bible in it, but do you believe that Jesus is the Son of God, and IS God!!!?? In your earlier posting you said that the only way to the Father is through His Son, Christ Jesus, and was critical about Catholics asking Mother Mary to intercede. Well, the Koran does NOT believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and IS God. What do you have to say to that? Please enlighten me. D'Cunha."
[Goanet] Goan Saints?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2006 Christmas - Two Packages available from EXPRESSIONS http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ Hi All, Albert has nailed it for me. Another point I would like to raise is that Goans will never get their Saint untill we send the corpse of the white man (Fr. Francis Xavier) to the Vatican or to his home land. That is where he belongs. Only then, will the Vatican think twice of giving us our own Saint. As long as you kneel down at the corpse of this white man as if he is God, and think that he can save you from hell, the Vatican WILL continually take the 'Micky Mouse' out of the Goan community. You can blame the Goan Bishops for it,if you like, they are equally to be blamed, Bishops are weak willed and follow orders from the white man, that is all they know. Afra. Dear friends Wehave too many saints on earth than in heaven. Our religion has made these saints rival gods which the Almighty God our father does not like. The church has never made any attempt to teach the lay people the Bible especially the new testament. There is cathesism of the church and this and that but no bible. The bible teaches us not to use statues but to adore the true God .We have so many Mary's on earth that people are all confused. They run here and there to search for different Marys but never know who Mary is. Today the church has made us to understand that you do not need God Mary can save you.We are comparing the earth to heaven and many priests are heard saying that just as mother has a good rapport with the son so too Mary with God. Please remember the word Mother of God is wrong. God is alone the alpha and the omega. No father no mother. How can God have a mother? It is true that Jesus is God but one must understand that Jesus is the son of man and needs a father and mother but God is not a son of man. We are not supposed to create statues of God or anyone. Today our attention is diverted from God when we venerate the statues. albert Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Goa, needs workshops
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Spread the Christmas cheer - even when you're not here! Send Christmas Greetings to your loved ones in Goa. 2006 Christmas - Two Packages available from EXPRESSIONS http://www.goa-world.com/expressions/xmas/ Hi All, The above statement was made by: ""Cyril D'souza" I would like to know which stone he has been hiding under, I would like to be there too. All the young men (Hindu/Christian) from Goa are either taking drugs and think their problem will fly away or the adventerous ones gone to M'bai. Others (Hindu/Christians) who think they are clever, have made passports (you know which I mean) and gone away, only to work as lowpaid workers (the work they got away from). Moderated minded who want to keep one foot in Goa are 'tarvotis'. The desperate ones who went to the middle east, are showing of their wealth now (well, they can't bank it in the middle east, or anywhere else). They (the middle east chaps) should be investing in Goa, and, some have; but got looted, by the Red Tape and lazy Goans workers who do not turn up for work or borrowed money and did not return it at all. Afra. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Fr. Agnel Needs to Be Fastracked Vs Miracles
* * * 2006 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 21, 2006 @ 4:00pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051398.html Hi All, The Vatican has to change its mind the way they make saints. Mother Teresa's miracle was NOT a miracle said the doctors. Unbiased opinion and argument was NOT taken into consideration. Conclusion? THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A MIRACLE. It is a miracle IF you accept it as a miracle, if not it is not. Once upon a time the preasts were the ultimate source of information and knowledge because they had 7 or 10 years of Latin lessons. Now a days everyone has 10 to 12 years of study gaining Phds etc. we do not need preasts telling us what to do/not to do. The majority of us are more educated than the preasts today. Tell some one educated that it is a miracle and they will prove it to you that it is not; yet every day is a miracle, it is a miracle that we are alive and well, (aspirin can cure ills which was once a sure death, eg. FLU). If the vatican wants to make Fr Agnelo a Saint well and good if not, there is noting much we can do about it. No need to tell the Goan Bishops in Rome to act upon it, if they are not acting upon it, there is a reason for it,THEY WERE BORN AND GREW UP IN GOA BECAME A BISHOP IN GOA BUT HAVE never HEARD ABOUT FR. AGNELO OR PILAR FATHERS. Afra. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Goan Affairs vs World affairs
* * * 2006 ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET - GOA * * * WHERE: Foodland Cafe - Miramar Residency - Miramar, Goa WHEN: December 21, 2006 @ 4:00pm More info: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2006-December/051398.html From: Mario Goveia Margaret Mascarenhas wrote: The fact that an estimated 25000 people die of hunger and poverty in the world EVERY DAY. The virtual genocide of the Palestinians. The dangerous descent of Iraq into civil war and the complete destabilization of the Middle East. --- afra dias wrote: I ask? What has Pelestinian/Israeli affairs got to do with Goan affairs? Mario adds: The sectarian violence in Iraq is no more a civil war than the Catholic-Protestant sectarian violence in Britain was a civil war. -- Afra Says:- Northern Ireland's fight has nothing to do with catholic-protestant violence. British army was defending their Colony, just like they had sent their Army to India. It was Britain vs sense and sensibility. The main conflict was not Catholic-Protestant but the SEATS IN SORMONT Once the STORMONT affair was sorted, violence stopped. Catholic Protestant fighting in NI was just a ploy and a propaganda against the Catholics by the British Protestant state - as usual. Afra. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Sashtikar and Bardezcar vs Ilhascar
- Original Message - From: "CARMO DCRUZ" Hi Jorge, Thanks for the information, I know Fr. Agnel was a holy man and a great soul. I also know that he is from Anjuna, Bardez, Goa, India - whereas I am a proud Sashtikar from Salcete, Goa. - Hi, Why are people SO hung up about What area they come from? I understand Carmo lives in Florida. What is he trying to do? Introduce passport control to get to Salcete? Was Francis Xavier a Sashticar? Who cares!! Why can't we all be Goencars? Suni vs Shiait and now Sashticar vs Bardezcar!!! Are you out of your mind? Afra. By the way who said Fr Agnelo was a holy man? Sashticars? coz the Pope has not said it yet!!! Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Fr Agnelo's Sainthood
Hi All, Mz M. Mascarenhas Says: Lobbying for "OUR" spiritual candidates in is not going to make anyone more or less holy. As for exerting global pressure, it seems to me there are hundreds of far more pressing issues with which to concern ourselves than whether or not a Goan is becomes a pope or a saint--global warming, for instance. The fact that an estimated 25000 people die of hunger and poverty in the world EVERY DAY. The virtual genocide of the Palestinians. The global trafficking of children for the purpose of cheap labour and/or prostitution. The dangerous descent of Iraq into civil war and the complete destabilization of the Middle East. I could go on and on, but I'm sure you catch my drift. Margaret Mascarenhas - I ask? What has Pelestinian/Israeli affairs got to do with Goan affairs? What has Shia bombing Suni in Iraq got to do with Goan Affairs? Tony Blair and his Labour Party has and are doing whatever they can; do you all think Goans can do better? than Ex President Clinton? Can any one eradicate Prostitution? Minimun wage in UK is now in force. Does that mean there are NO poor people and children in UK? Afra. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Crucifiction in Goa
Hi All, Dr Carmo writes from Florida, USA. And, wants to keep Goa Dourada free from 'Bhiles'. When is he going to come back to Goa and crucify the lot of them? Here is what the Dr. prescribes. -- Yes, Crucifiction was a particularly Roman form of Torture in Biblical times, but if the current swell of support for it in prominently Christian Goa continues (except for some Europe-influenced Goanetter - who do not have any more effective solutions), it will be more famously known as a distinctly Goan form of Capital Punishment (It is a strong deterrent and becomes economically viable along with organ harvesting - so that more Goans live when criminaks are crucified) and it will largely responsible for a relatively crime -free Goa of the future, resultant swell in the tourism and high tech business and will help us achieve our ideal of Goa Dourada (Golden Goa) ! If you were a criminal in Goa would you want to commit violent crime in Goa when the capital punishment is upside down crucifiction and organ harvesting ? Think about it - that's exactly what the Bhailes will feel and keep away from our Goa Dourada ! Best Regards, Dr. Carmo D'Cruz Indian Harbour Beach, Florida -- Happy organ Hunting to you all. Afra. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Crucified upside down
Hi, Any one who says St Thomas was crucified upside down has not done their homework. They are writing rubbish to get some publicity. Crucifiction was particulary a Roman form of killing by torture, not Indian. Indians of those days would not know what crucifiction was in the first place. Afra. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] St Thomas and Jesus in Kashmir
"The pontiff with solid historical evidence: St.Thomas accompanied a certain merchant come from India whose name was Abbanes, sent from the King Gundaphorus. Gundaphorus is a historical personage who reigned over a part of India in the first century after Christ. His coins bear his name in Greek, as Hyndopheres. Pope has not denied the tradition associated with apostle St Thomas evangelising the early Christians in Kerala but incontrary he adds strength to their belief by his words, where also it finally reached Southern India." - There is also a thought and stone evidence (foot print carved) that Jesus live the rest of his life in Kashmir,(the same path used by Thomas to come to India). If St Thomas did not come by sea to Kerala, how come Roman coins are still found there? Vatican is not telling us the whole story, yet again. Afra. Goanet supports BMX, the alumni network of Britto's, St Mary's and Xavier's -- three prominent institutions in Mapusa, Goa. Events scheduled from Dec 16 to 21, 2006 For more details visit http://www.bmxgoa.com
[Goanet] Pope
Hi All, The Pope, addressing a vast crowd at the St Peter's square, is said to have stated ". Thomas first evanglised Syria and Persia and then penetrated as far as western India from where christianity reached also south India" Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] moderators
Hi, Even to suggest that the moderators should hurry is WRONG. I have seen columns after columns of articles on this site and to moderate them is a daunting task, I dont even read most of them. I honestly think that the moderators are doing an excellent job. Also I'm grateful that the person hiding behind a false name has brought this honourable work done by a few for the good of the many has been high-lighted. Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Hindu Mass
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Hi, What is the point in asking questions without clarifing your position on this discussion? Do you want a fight? But want others to declare their hand first? Afra. (I need some clarification: Are people here in *support* of Indian inculturation of Christianity or are they *against* it? Neal Pinto) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Hindu Mass
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details I have attended Mass in many countries but have NEVER seen or heard of such unholy acts being committed being committed in the name of the Mass. Regards, John D'Souza Moderator'Margao-Net Hi Goanetters, I personally think people are taking offence to the word 'Hindu'. Hindu is the shortform for the people who live in Hindusthan. Why can't people in India or Indians (Establish English word for people of India;like Madras and Calcutta) worship Jesus's Last Supper in whatever way they feel is comfortable to them? Why does it have to be in LATIN or ENGLISH (European) Way? What is 'High Mass' on a Feast Day? Other than an opportunity for the Preast to practice or show off his 'vocal chords'? Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Hotel in M'bai
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * House for Sale: Recently restored and renovated 350 sq. mtr Antique Type House on 1,125 sq mtr property in Coimavaddo, Aldona No brokerage offered. Serious buyers only Visit http://www.goa-world.com/goa/aldonahouse for details Hi, Last time I visited B'bay I stayed at SHANTI DOOT Hotel in Dadar. It is cheap, Aircon making noise, all night. (we had to put it off). But we had separate shower and toilet, after coming from shopping. All the same we enjoyed our stay there coz straight road goes all the way to Central M'bai, by bus or by train. We did not use taxis due to the polution at ground level, the traffic jams, and vagrants poking their hands through the window. Can't get B'bay out of my blood. Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Hindu teemple like soho phone box
Hi, Sachin said: "THE HINDU temples of central and southern India can be startlingly erotic. The temples of Khajuraho are the most explicit, being encrusted with statues of naked females - big-breasted and narrow waisted - doing naughty things with rampant men (see them on Google images). How can a religion be so pornographic?" --- Afra says: Since when did Hinduism become a Religion? According to Vedantas:- Planet Venus is Lakshimi. (planet of beauty) Planet Jupiter is Brahma. (planet that saves the earth by attracting all the debris in the solar space) Planet Mercury is Ganesh. (planet of numbers) On and On it goes, All the rocks are Hindu Gods. Does this make Hinduism a Religion. Take fasting for example: This is one of the actions one has to take to keep oneself healthy - this is in the Vedantas as part of Yoga (Yoga is NOT just exercises, fasting is part of Yoga). Does these Rules make Hinduism a Religion. Porn is Sin - Sex is not. Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] DNA and Goans
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Eddie Fernandes says: "Anushka Asthana, 25, responds: My parents are Indian, my grandparents are Indian and as far back as they know, all their relatives are Indian. So these results certainly came as a surprise. The European connection less so, because my mum's family are from the north Indian state of Punjab, where the population is extremely fair and I have been told there was considerable movement there from Europe in the past. I was more surprised by the east Asian connection - I have certainly never identified myself as Chinese, Japanese or Vietnamese, yet according to the results these are 25 per cent of my origins. While I think it is fascinating I am not convinced by this high figure. I love the fact I could be a melting pot of so many diverse cultures". Affra Says:- Europeans have 'Thalasaemia' in their blood, Especially Greeks have it. North of India was invaded by the Greeks, most of the warriors settled down in the North of India, because they could not be bothered to go back, others had intermarried. NOW 25% of Punjabies have Thalasemia due to this Greek mixture. Now people in Goa have Thalasaemia too! may be due to Portuguese (European) mixture? Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Dog population in Goa
Hi Goanetters, JoegoaUK is complaining about our Goa Governor going to Delhi to eat dog meat. What happened to the dogs in Goa are they not tasty enough? Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Religion and Goanet
Hi, Leave us alone to discuss Goa! Cheers! Cecil Says Cecil. --- This is like the Russians OR the Chinese saying to their people DO NOT MARRY FOREIGNERS. What happened to diversity? Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Hindu/Greek Gods
Hi Goanetters, Gilbert Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Aitaracheo Sermaum Hi Santosh, Thanks for you clarification of Hinduism. I hesitate to debate you on the religion of your birth. However, for the benefit of the Catholics on the goanet, it is my understanding that modern Hindus believe in one God, who is called "Brahman". --- Afra says: There is such god as Brahman. Brahman is a word related to the people who belong to the Religious sect, who do poojas for god Brahma. Brahma is the same as Zeus, the Greek god Jupiter. The ORACLE that the Greeks followed, were teachings handed down to the people via Zeus (Jupiter) the (Astrological predictions). Vedas and the Vedantas have incorported Jupiter as Brahma, Laxhimi as Planet Venus, Parvati as Moon, Mangal(mars) is for tuesday. They have also named days of the weeks according to the planets and so did the Christians. Sun(Ravi) is for Sunday, Moon is for Monday, Mars (Mangalvar)is for Tuesday (Tuesday does not rhyme with Mars in English - but it does in French) Etc Etc. Sat. is for Saturn thus completing the 7 days with the 7 p;anets we can see with naked eyes. Do Catholics believe is Astrology? Why Not? The Popes untill the 18 Century did not step out without consulting it Suddenly it is a SIN to believe in it? Just because the Hindus DO? Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Valmiki's call, Afra's supposition and jc's response
Hi Goanetters, JC wrote: Suppose it came to pass that: Afra (or Jose) were very reliant on (addicted to) Caju Feni. Two producers of Caju Feni ( Pedru ani Ladru ) were at loggerheads with each other. Big Big guerra between those two. Afra(or Jose) hoping to keep their own supply of Caju Feni at a cheap and plentiful level, assist Pedru against Ladru with arma ani fugetio on one side & Ladru against Pedru with armas on the 'contra' side. Thereafter Afra(or Jose) have a fall out with Pedru - He is kind of a stubborn fella. All this caju feni dinero has made him into an Idalcao. But . never mind the SPIN, Pedru has not attacked either Afra or Jose. Does the Afra doctrine give Afra(or Jose) the right to go to Pedru's house and create Turkan? On which grounds ...besides Fatorda? jc Afra says: When such paranoia sets in, the only remedy left is to 'slap' that person to wake them up to face reality. Face the fact JC. Terrorist will get you - like it or not. If they were not in Iraq then, they are now, they are in Mumbai, some got arrested in Goa. - WAKE UP. Afra.(or Jose or Caju feni or whatever) ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
Re: [Goanet] Immoral support for fake morality
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Hi Goanetters, Santosh writes: "Goanetters who do not have any unnecessary hostility towards me, let me assure you that Adolph Hitler was never my favorite example of a Christian". --- Afra Says: Did he confess any where that he was a Christian? European Scholars say he had Jewish Roots because he had black hair. Just because he was born in Europe and a white person does not automatically make him a Christian - most people in India think that way, they even think Jesus was white European. Afra. ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] We must go to war!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Hi Goanetters, Valmiki Faleiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WROTE. "Yes, India must go to war. An all-out war. A full-fledged, no-holds-barred war. Not a conventional war in the military sense. Nor a war against another sovereign nation. But an all-out, unrestrained, unconventional war against the masterminds, the planners, indeed the entire apparatus -- however organized, structured and funded. There comes a time in the life of every nation when tough decisions need to be made. Etc. Etc. --- All those who oppose the war against Iraq I suppose by now have changed their mind, DOING NOTHING IS NOT AN OPTION. Afra. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20060713/145e93a3/attachment.htm ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
[Goanet] Explaination to Zinedine's insult?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Enjoy your holiday in Goa. Stay at THE GARCA BRANCA from November to May There is no better, value for money, guest house. Confirm your bookings early or miss-out Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Hi Goanetters, "newton filomeno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,wrote: Hence it was best for Zinedin to inform the referee as a captain that too of the harm bestowed on him, prior to head butting his opponent. He doesn't even deserve to be give the honour of "The best Footballer of the tournament". - 1) You as a referee, you go on the field with a different attitude. 2) Verbal abuse is the same if not worse than physical abuse. In my opinion Zidane should be given the golden boot AND a Golden Ball for NOT killing him ON THE SPOT. Afra. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/attachments/20060713/9a90b7d3/attachment.htm ___ Goanet mailing list Goanet@lists.goanet.org http://lists.goanet.org/listinfo.cgi/goanet-goanet.org
