[Goanet] {Goanet] Watch what he does, not what he says
Hi Mario, Who was it that said "watch my lips"? and then went and did just the opposite? Come to the point, endless writings does not justify Republican falsifications just for the sake of justification. Obama is doing what is right. Shoe dodging Baffoon has a teenagers mind in an adult body, all he said was fish has same brains as humans and ump, hum, humm, bye, - end of press address . ED. --- [end of excerpts]I have no idea any more when to believe anything the new President says and when not to. Neither do any of his supporters.The message in all this is: Watch what he does, not what he says.Mario Goveia
[Goanet] British woman molested in Goa
Hi All, Too many Ghantis in Goa sleeping on the road side and if they cant sleep this is what they do. Tourists won't complain, they just won't come. There is no smoke without fire. So?! the Tony the Fernandes should at least think there is some truth in it and that it is possible that it might happen. Shouldn't he do something about the layabouts in Goa? and drive them out, or/and make their life difficult? If not these Ganthis will make our life difficult - they already are, in more ways than one. ED http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1235462 'We have not received molestation complaint by any Brit woman' Panaji: Even as media today carried a story about a British woman molested in Goa's coast on Saturday night, the state police have said that they have not received any complaint. "We have not received any complaint of British woman molested. I have checked with all my police stations," superintendent of Police (North) Tony Fernandes said. A news report published in local daily Herald mentions that the lady was molested by a group of Hindi speaking persons on Saturday night at Baga, a well-known tourist spot. The woman, reportedly, was returning back to her resort when the group under pretext of asking something molested her. "If something of that sort has happened, we appeal the victim to complaint to the police so that the accused can be
[Goanet] Watch what he does, not what he says
Hi Mario, You still don't get it, do you! Why are you still bring this Bush topic up? How long are you going to say that Buffoon Bush is Brilliant? Even his advisers are saying he is 'dim'. ED. - Obama more analytical than Bush, says Gates Mon, Mar 2 01:15 PM Washington, Mar.2 (ANI): US Defense Secretary Robert Gates has said that he finds President Barack Obama more analytical on issues than former President George W Bush. Speaking on NBC's "Meet the Press", Gates said: "It's hard to say. I think probably President Obama is somewhat more analytical, and he makes sure he hears from everybody in the room on an issue, and if they don't speak up, he calls on them." In contrast, President Bush didn't go out of his way to elicit input from those in the room, Gates said. Gates believes the possibility that the plan to withdraw all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of 2011 would change is "fairly remote," but noted that President Obama has the authority to alter the plan. He also said that field commanders would have preferred keeping current troop levels through the end of 2010. Currently, all combat forces are expected to be out of Iraq by August 31, 2010, with up to 50,000 troops remaining in advisory capacities. Gates is the first Secretary of Defense to have served under presidents of both parties. (ANI)
[Goanet] Are Muslims In India Appeased?
Hi Mario, You can quote as much as you like. The Qur'an was NOT written in Arabic. All that you have quoted and copied and pasted is a Translation. The Qur'an as is related and followed by the Mislims today is a Translation from another language. Therefore it is NOT a direct word of God but 'lost in translation word of God'. THIS IS A FACT - CHECK IT OUT. Just because you are a moderator you think you know it all. ED.
[Goanet] Are Muslims In India Appeased?
Muslims are still in the clutches of their religious gurus. These religious gurus oppose setting up of School near madarass. These religious gurus keep Muslims away from main stream education. Politicians keep this religious gurus happy for their gain.. This is basic appeasement. Now a move is going on to make Shariat Law applicable, is it taking community forward or backward? SHRIKANT BARVE Reply: Chapter 9, Verse31 of the Qura'n clearly states that Muslims should not listen to 'Any One'. "The Qura'n is so simplistically and beautifully written that any one can understand it, therefore we do not need rabbis and priests like other religions have, to advise us". If it is so written, why is that they have Mullahs? ED. --- Note to moderators: (moderators again, will question my authenticity on this - WELL, 'the Qura'n' via Channel 4 documentary - want a copy? will do so gladly - everything I say here is Kosher - it is you lot who have not lived long enough and seen much, therefore whatever I say is a Shocking unbelieveable news for you lot). ED.
[Goanet] Are Musloms in India appeased
I suggest you refer to the dictionary to understand the meaning ofappeasement. This exploitation is done by all parties, whether Congress,BJP, SP, NCP, CPM, BSP, JD, etc. regards,Marshall -- Hi, Shrikant Barve is absolutely correct to say that word. At first instance I thought he was talking about the special Charter flights the Govt (all) have to take Muslims to Mecca during their Hajj, expenses paid! Do you get that sort of pampering treatment to go to the Vatican or the Coimbatore (south Indian) people to help them to go to Gangotri, (Himalayas where the ice melts?) ED.
[Goanet] Professionals Party of India (PPI),
Mumbai massacre survivors join new Indian anti-corruption party: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/4886000/Mumbai-massacre-survivors-join-new-Indian-anti-corruption-party.html "Our leaders are filthy and immoral," said Mr Uledar, 29, a devout Christian. "Instead of running the country and giving us security, they are looting it, getting fat from corruption. I want honest people to come in to give us a new start." Standing on a platform of professionalism and meritocracy, the new party is emblematic of a new mood of anger and frustration among India's rapidly growing middle class, for whom the new dynamism in the economy is lacking sorely in the political sphere. Comprising doctors, executives, academics and other professionals from all religious backgrounds, it promises to cleanse what is frequently described as an Augean Stables of sleaze and graft within India's parliament. A quarter of its sitting members are either convicted of or facing criminal charges, including serious offences such as embezzlement, rape and murder. This week a former cabinet minister, Sukh Ram, was jailed for three years in New Delhi for corruptly amassing a fortune of 40 million rupees (£500,000). But in general it is rare for such cases to end in punishment. He argues that if Indians can head multinational companies like Citibank and PepsiCo, there is no reason why talented professionals with the necessary expertise cannot govern India in the same way. I want everyone to know that solutions to our problems are available," he said.. "If India can have just one parliament of honest, clean, qualified professionals, we can be a developed nation in five years." The party even has the blessing of its more established rivals, who sometimes accuse India's professional classes of being aloof from politics. Ravi Shankar Prasad, spokesman, BJP: "I welcome the party," said Ravi Shankar Prasad, spokesman for the Bharatiya Janata Party. "Instead of criticising from the sidelines, it's good that activists, intellectuals and professionals want to enter politics. What the party's impact will be, how knows?"
[Goanet] An Amazing Re-incarnation story - Carvalho
It features a British boy who is convinced he had a previous life on an island called Barra. I've pasted a link for those who want to read up on this boy. selma Selma,Ian Stevenson at University of Virginia devoted his life to studying such cases, and came up empty handed as far as proving the authenticity of the claims is concerned. His student Satwant Pasricha continues to investigate these anecdotes at the National Institute of Mental Health and Neurosciences in Bangalore, where I worked for some time. From what I remember, almost all of their cases can be explained by mundane factors, such as stories told by visitors and playmates. It is virtually impossible to rule out such contamination in general.Cheers,Santosh. Hi Selma, Let me put you out of your misery. The Barra boy story is true and Reincarnation is also true, I found no holes in it. As the program said, as we grow up we lose our child memory, secondly they took too long to follow up, they had no money, most of all - WHY! It so happens that as children grow up we loose some of the natures survival instincts/gifts that we acquire from nature. For example psychology (which was discovered long ago by the Greeks but only applied as a science till modern times), children are born with it. As we grow up we lose 'that special gift', dogs and children also have 'that special kind of gift', which they cannot convey because they cannot speak. Be as it may! 19 years ago (long before copy and paste) they showed on TV, made by an European Channel, Sweden/Denmark not sure, and repeated several times on Sky that year. An Indian boy born to a poor, I mean very poor slum dwelling woman in an UP village. That woman said he always said to me, 'you are NOT my mum, why do you have only one saree, my mum had 100s because I bought them for her, had a car, and a shop. She said to him 'I am your mum' etc etc - This whole story goes on and on for one hour. - To cut it short. He told her where the shop is, the location of the shop, the tree in front of the shop, the safe inside the shop where he kept his money etc etc. He told that his wife helped him in the shop, he has two sons, he told them their names too. He told them how the shop counter was positioned (which his wife then changed so as not to remind her of her dead husband). When the boy was taken to that place which was totally in a different area to where he was born,that boy or any one would not have known because it was/is insignificant. The tree, the safe, the counter, the positioning of the radios and the TVs etc was confirmed by his wife. The boy told his wife on cmaera, 'you have changed it all'. The wife when told, 'I am your husband', she told him on camera, "how can I call you my husband when you are younger than my sons". When he told her what he called, she burst into tears and did not want to be in front of the camera any more. The program than moves on to how he died, again, no where near where he was born again, and no way any one would have told the boy. How did he die? he was shot. When was he shot? on a rainy night in front of his house when in his CAR, returning home. Where was he shot? On the top of the head. All confirmed by the boy his wife and the villagers. Because it was a heavy rainy day there was too much thunder and lightening etc Why? Money! Black money or whatever. He says he will not tell where he has hidden it, because it is his. Now! WHEN THEY SHAVED HIS HEAD ON CAMERA - THERE WAS A BIG SCAR WHERE HE SAID HE WAS SHOT. His biological mother said he was born like that, the doctors said with that sort of wound on the head, that place and as a child, he should be dead. All this on European TV. (professors are 'deliberately' looking in the wrong place because they are making a 'living' out of it, longer the search longer the pay packet). ED.
[Goanet] Talibanism and Bangalore
What was posted under "What happened in Bangalore" wasnot anything to do with Talibanism. It was pure goondaism which happensanywhere in India, on a Friday night, when youngsters are drunk andflex their muscles. What was glaring in this case was that the copswere friends with the goondas. Again this is not Talibanism or anythingto do with it.Samir Kelekar.Wed Feb 25 05:31:19 PST 2009 . --- truenot just for women but also for men, but why force one's views ?If you can, teach people what is a good culture against bad. In theworst case, have peaceful demonstrations outside pubs. That is thedemocratic way. - Samir Kelekar.(In January) - Reply: And, who said on Goanet "it takes a few good men to do nothing" on Goanet? In the same breath I hear people saying on Goanet - Its just a few goondas having fun. Wasn't it exactly what the Germans said about the Nazis, - let them have some fun we hate the jews anyway, their money, their wealth and high life etc.etc. Wasn't Hitler a street urchin (like the Indian goondas) who did not have a proper family upbringing and a decent family meal at a table with manners? Wasn't Hitler who chewed his fingernail during meals at the dinner table (due to lack of proper upbringing - same as the goondas in India)? Wasn't this same goonda Hitler the one who did not have good manners (like the goondas in India) who then took power? Wasn't the same attituted that the UK public and the UK police took against the blacks? It took one mother Doreen Lawrence to prove to the world that UK Police are 'Institutionally Racist' and changed the Policing in UK. UK.
[Goanet] Freida Pinto pics and Media
Media of Freida Pinto What ever you need to know is here: http://uk.imdb.com/find?s=all&q=feida+pinto ED.
[Goanet] God and you
Albert writes:-I do not fast because I believe that Jesus christ has taken with him all our sins, our unhappiness and sorrow to the Cross when He died for our salvation. --- Reply: Good for you. Muslims fast for (what ever days), Christians fast for Two times a year as you said, but you are not one of them, OK? I mean Catholic. If you are a Catholic and believe what the HOLY GERMAN FATHER says then you SHOULD fast. OK? Now, Hindus fast one day in the week (they SHOULD any way) depending upon what day of the week they were born OR where their Mars is in their Kundali etc. This is what ALL humans should follow - like it or not. As for Catholics, they should fast on the Friday of the week (because they do not believe in the Kundali). There are 14 Commandments in the Judeo/Christian Bible, (If you want to split hairs with me, then there are 613 Commandments - thou shalt not coveth thy neighbours cow and etc.). Fasting is also a Commandment, and Commandments were LAWS (by today's standards) because in those days there was no Govt. to make Laws and Kings were Gods etc. Now a days we are free to do whatever we like like Albert, that is why the society is in such a mess. If the Catholic Church says do not eat meat, eat Capibara thou shall eat Capibara, end off. If you want to live as a decent human being you should fast once a week - THAT IS THE LAW OF NATURE. Hinduism is not a religion it is the Law of Nature, follow it like wise, not as a Religion. ED.
[Goanet] Slum dog Millionaire! - Bella Rebello-Hamm
One cannot swim in a saree anyway? Indian women with their beautiful brown skin would look smashing and sexy in bikinis, I'm sure. This way an Indian woman wearing a bathing suit wouldn't be rare and women wouldn't be gloated at!Isabella- Germany. -- Hi Bella, I get your point, but what about BJP's Talibanism in India? Where where you my dear for so many days? Didn't you also hear what Roland Francis said on Fri Feb 20 05:31:19 PST 2009, This Happened In Bangalore. In Iran, women bathe on the beaches in their boorka, they even sunbathe 'in it'. They even take group photographs at the airports in it - init!? Long live BJP Talibanism in Bangalore coming to Goa soon via the next election? ED.
[Goanet] "Slumdog millionaire" --(Mario G)- hollow message of social justice
Hi All, 1) Nascy said: Very well said, Mario G!!! Indian middle and upper Classes have to 'Wake Up and Now' before more of the country becomes 'the Slum'. Reply: First of all has any one tried to find out which type of people or 'community', 'make' slums? There was a reality TV shown in UK whereby an American working in a call centre in USA came to find out why he lost his job to and India Call centre person. The program showed call centre workers and the employees living in slums plus another resident of the slums, a girl graduate who works in a bank. Although she wants to move out she says she can't because her family and friends live there. Haven't you heard - # 'Wherever I lay my hat, that's my home'. Secondly: I do not have a cut a paste job to enter here but in another reality program they showed, resident committee of flat owners do not allow a certain religious people. All religion people are allowed except one (you can guess). If I'm bold enough to ask - which community, specially in Mumbai do you think are slum dwellers? Slumdog director did not have any difficulty in choosing his child actors from there - did he now!? 2) Nascy said: Perhaps a good place to start would be for Indians in general to start paying their taxes as they are supposed to, start electing honest politicians, Reply: There again, I ask: why do you think late PM Indira Gandhi was killed? (Punjabees is NOT the answer - they were just used, Indians are their own worst enemy). ED.
[Goanet] Talking photo: (Slum) dogs noses always remind me of this.
Hi, Sukoilelim Birnichim Solam? makes good bangadiachi coddi: http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk17/3260104256/sizes/l/
[Goanet] Fw: BARACK OBAMA - THE NEW MESSIAH ? - NOT
1) Reagan's pressure on the Soviet Union caused Mikhail Gorbachev to give up the ghost and their previous ambitions to dominate the world, by force if necessary.- Mario Hi Mario, I don't understand what is the matter with you, you keep on writing and writing and loosing the plot half way. If Mikhail did not give up - what would Regan do? drop napalm on them? It was the Soviets who approached US, because they could not handle the economy and the infrastructure (which is still bad - http://office-humour.co.uk/item/11084/) etc. --- 2) President Bush inherited a declining economy in 2000 when the seeds of the current financial crisis had already been planted under Jimmy Carter's Community Reinvestment Act and forced to grow under legal threats against the banks to force them to comply under President Clinton. Reply: Why do you think Republicans lost the election? Because they were good at managing the economy? Clinton said the HE inherited badly manged economy and got elect twice. Democrats did not loose because of bad management but because Republicans brought God into the campaign, just like Thatcher would bring immigrants into the election issue. - 3) Bush was not involved in the 2008 election after being elected in 2000 and re-elected by a larger margin in 2004. Reply: Inspite of been known as a fool of a president, he was still elected! why? Obama campaign though the same would happen! why? - God! Mario! why don't you just admit it that Buffoon Bush was no good, every body does. (human being and fish can coexist peacefully)http://www.debatepolitics.com/war-terror/32784-fish-humans-coexsisting-peacefully-translated-through-terror.html Long live Bush and his wisdom. ED. PS. There is a similarity in the sense that they were not fit to be Presidents
[Goanet] Fw: How regulation caused the financial crisis (updated)
Got message saying there is a fault - in case you didn't get the first, ED. -- http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell021809b.php3 Hi Mario, Why don't you just get it that 'cut and paste' does not mean that it is correct. I have said that an alcoholic was paid £25/- during the Paki-bashing period by a high volume News of the World in UK. I know this alcoholic personally and I have been to his flat. Secondly a Professor/Scientist in UK was paid by Tate and Lyle (sugar company) to publish an article to say that 'sugar is good for you'. If a UK famous paper can publish rubbish why not a back street US paper? Every thing in the above cut and paste article is BS. The long articles that you keep writing (half way contradicting yourself) gives me a headache. ED.
[Goanet] Important - for your info
1) We have to strictly control inward migration if we have to preserve Goa'sidentity2) Romi Konkani has to be given her rightful status. 3) NO ' mega / large scale ' construction projects Arwin Mesquita These are just words Arwin, to win the election. Once they come to power and the bribes start coming, every one becomes his uncle. He is the MLA for Panjim and he cannot clean it up. He didn't, when he was in power. I complained to him that ancient Portuguese footpaths were dug in Panjim by immigrant shop owners and were not restored to its proper state. They were not even filled up and levelled, I had to jump over it, all the time I was there. During his time the roads in panjim had man made (dug) holes all over Panjim, safety hazard! Parking - cars were everywhere, even on footpaths, where are the tourists supposed to walk? On the road? dodging cars. You believe Porrikar? then you believe anything! ED.
[Goanet] This Happened In Bangalore
They gun straight for the women, and everyone – a fewwell-meaning bystanders, acquaintances who know us from therestaurant, basically everyone who tries to help the women – startsgetting thoroughly beaten up. Women are kicked in the groin, punched in the stomach, slapped acrossthe face, grabbed everywhere, abused constantly. Roland Francis (Fri Feb 20 05:31:19 PST 2009) Hi, Is this how it is going to be in India also? ED. Taliban convert Swat Valley into hell-hole of bodies - http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1233211 The Taliban have converted the Swat Valley in Pakistan, once known for its scenic beauty, into a hell-hole of bodies and ruins, a media report said here on Sunday. The women's clothes markets were either closed or have banners proclaiming: "Women are banned from entering this market".
[Goanet] Goan bakers ( poder)
I am sure while transferring the skills there was something which went amiss because the bread does not the same anymore!Aires Cabral - Hi, Why blame the poder? or Jarkhand-walla. What goes in, is what comes out, Goan udock not Jarkhand pani. In Britain flour enhancer is used, among with bleach to whiten the flour and other preservatives according to EU regulation E Nos. What regulation is used to enhance the Goan flour - is it genuine? In UK one can buy £1/- a loaf and 10p a loaf too. Do they both taste the same? In India one can buy expensive rice with few stones or cheap rice with more stones. Pay the price and pick your stones. ED.
[Goanet] British Muslims 'arming Taliban'
http://news.uk.msn.com/uk/article.aspx?cp-documentid=14424020 British Muslims are supplying the Taliban with electronic devices to build roadside bombs for use in attacks on British forces in Afghanistan, it has been reported. The Daily Telegraph said the devices, used to activate bombs by remote control, were being sent to sympathisers in the region or carried in by volunteers who fly into Pakistan before crossing the border into Afghanistan. The details were said to have emerged during a briefing to Foreign Secretary David Miliband during a two-day visit to the country earlier this week. The paper quoted an explosives officer as telling him: "We have found electronic components in devices used to target British troops that originally come from Britain." When Mr Miliband asked how the components had reached Afghanistan, the officer was said to have replied they had either been sent from Britain, or carried in by British Muslims. During the briefing, led by Brigadier Gordon Messenger, the Royal Marine commander of the British battlegroup in Helmand province, the Foreign Secretary was shown a series of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) used in attacks on UK troops. They ranged from mobile phones packed with explosives, which could kill or maim soldiers on foot patrol, to more sophisticated devices that could be used to attack military vehicles. Experts who have examined the devices were said to have found British-made electronic components which enable the IEDs to be detonated by remote control. The electronic devices involved included basic remote control units designed to fly model airplanes to more advanced components that enable insurgents to conduct attacks from up to a mile away from their target. A Ministry of Defence spokesman said: "The insurgents in Afghanistan have changed their tactics meaning they now use more and more improvised explosive devices than before. IEDs pose a significant threat to the safety of our forces and we are looking at ways we can improve protection from them."
[Goanet] This Happened In Bangalore
Guirimboy said: " At this rate any progress made will soon vanish the way of Zimbabwe."Wonderful! Wonder who will make it to the finish line first - the UK or India?Tim Hi, That's right Tim, that is all you can do - keep wondering. But you don't have to wonder for long, it is said that, when UK sneezes India gets a cold. At the moment India is in an incubation period. With illiterate goondas attacking women, the weaker sex. The product of jealousy by women against women created BY THEIR WOMEN FOLK INDOORS plus the fact that the Christians are enjoying better life, while their religion stops them from drinking and going to Pubs etc. mingled with 'Institutional hatred' does not bear good-will towards all mankind according to their religious belief, now - does it!. ED. India Inc jittery over govt borrowing http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1183034 The market is also nervous government borrowing, scheduled to total Rs 96,000 crore in April-September, will exceed the gross Rs 1.45 lakh crore planned for all of fiscal 2008-09 as subsidies and the cost of a farm loan waiver mount. Extra borrowing would squeeze demand for corporate bonds in an illiquid market and debt arrangers say firms could struggle to find investors for their higher risk, less liquid bonds. "High government borrowing is a negative for interest rates and also for companies looking at raising money. Also with liquidity squeezed, the investment activities of banks take a back seat," said J Moses Harding, executive vice-president at IndusInd Bank.
[Goanet] This Happened In Bangalore
Hi All, Some people learn a new word via Goanet but do not know how, where and when to use it. Take HUBRIS for example, it means: 'is a term used in modern English to indicate overweening pride, self-confidence'. Ed said: At that time there was this Shiv Sena movement - if I am not mistaken it was the birth place of Shiv Sena in MP/UP. It was then that I decided I should quit India. Watered milk, stones in rice, wheat and dall, milk powder did not smell like milk powder etc etc. Now, where does 'hubris' fit into this? It was 'fear and uncertainty', plus the fact that, 'institutionalised hatred' by ignorant Indian Police, Political Parties and their followers etc in India against other Religion followers towards the same INDIANS as themselves, that made me look elsewhere. (This Happened In Bangalore Fri Feb 20 05:31:19 PST 2009 by Roland). I feared the same would happen to me sooner or later, just because it happened to someone else does not mean that I do not feel the pain - hubris is it?- according to some people? ED. PS: India my have moved forward by 'copying' the West, while the west has moved even further. - Samir said:-- However, while I find that India is moving up although like an elephantpretty slowly, many other countries are moving backwards. There is only one reason for the above --- hubris, which can be seenin this article as well as many others on this very Goanet. regards,Samir
[Goanet] Fw: BARACK OBAMA - THE NEW MESSIAH ? - NOT
Marlon said: While much of what Mario says is true, the problem with Mario's analysis is that he is very partisan and is not willing or able to accept the fact that President Bush (Dubya) and the US Republican party, jumped into the home ownership bandwagon that resulted in the mess that ensued. marlon menezes - Hi All, Reply: 1. There is a similarity between 1929 crash and today's. 2. Both US Presidents were not fit to be Presidents (Dubya and Hoover). Partisan comments should fall on deaf ears. While Marlon says home ownership, we forget that Dubya stake/shares in oil, he wanted to keep oil flowing at any cost to boost his shares - home ownership was Republican agenda. 1) http://www.whitehouse.gov/about/presidents/HerbertHoover/ - "After the crash Hoover announced that while he would keep the Federal budget balanced, he would cut taxes and expand public works spending". Remember Dubya saying? "I don't know much about finance, but I know how to cut taxes". (you tube - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover - "Hoover easily won the Republican nomination despite having no previous elective office experience. Hoover was a professional mining engineer and author. Hoover deeply believed in the Efficiency Movement (a major component of the Progressive Era), arguing that a technical solution existed for every social and economic problem. That position was challenged by the Stock market crash of 1929. The consensus among historians is that Hoover's defeat in the 1932 election was caused primarily by failure to end the downward spiral into deep Depression. - (Does ring a bell?). Hoover's stance on the economy was based largely on volunteerism. From before his entry to the presidency, he was a proponent of the concept that public-private cooperation was the way to achieve high long-term growth". - (Ditto - Dubya's policy too) -- 2) Both Dubya and Hoover had money invested in stocks and shares and made a lot of dosh out of it - BUT! When it started getting out of control both did nothing, while, Joe Kennedy (JFK's father) got out of it saying - "if a shoeshine boy knows as much as I do, it is time to get out". This kept Joe in the money. Housing market is entirely a different story, Property ownership was started by Mrs Thatcher and Mr Reagan. The banks including UK banks were giving loans to people in USA who were living on Kentucky fried chicken and McDonald diet and didn't have the money to pay back the loans, it was given to them at what they now call it 'liars loan' (self certification, where by any beggar could declare they earned millions) and no checks were made to find if they did earn that sort of money. Where did the UK Bank's money go? to the USA people living on food coupons to buy houses which are now sold for $1/. ED.
[Goanet] What happened to the Great Goan Poie?
Reply: That's what happens when 'women can't cut tendli'. When I questioned my sister-in-law about the white poie,they ignored me, her girls gave me funny looks (none of them can cook). Long live women who can't cut tendli.ED --This shows a lack of knowledge about Goa. Bakers, known as poders, were predominantly if not exclusively male in Goa. Selma. -- Reply: What I was stressing was, women in Goa are ignorant of what goes in their bread. Just like cigarettes have 3000 chemicals in it, including formaldehyde (chemical used to preserve dead bodies). My KUTHUMB (relatives) in Goa did not know that the 'same' Poie flour, is now 'bleached'. - Why? Goans 'prefer' to marry fairer partners, and eat fairer Poie too. Do they also put Ammonia in it too and other preservatives in Goa? like they do in UK? - begs a question. ED.
[Goanet] How regulation caused the financial crisis
Hi, Just because you got a cut and paste job, that does not mean that it is a fact. In UK at the moment the HBOS whistleblower said that the Banks were at fault NOT THE GOVT. And he is going to produce a 30 page dossier for the MPs. Facts speak for themselves, not some back street newspaper BS. I know personally of a person (an alcoholic) being paid £25/- in the 60s by News of the World (UK paper), to use his name etc that he was forging passport for Pakistanis/Indians. ED. --- Mario Goveia said: http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell021809b.php3 Selected Excerpts:What was lacking in the housing market, they say, was government regulation of the market's "greed." That makes great moral melodrama, but it turns the facts upside down. It was precisely government intervention which turned a thriving industry into a basket case.
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Yesterdays pics
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3288324092/in/photostream/ Who is eating at this 'gaddo'? women who can't cut tendli? or a grand dad whose immune system has gone used to eating salmonella bacteria? One thing leads to another, stop eating cheaply at this gadda, or they will c--p all over you in Goa - don't blame them, blame yourself. Joe said: ..Can some one ‘linboi’ this ‘agut’to’?http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoaukdirtypanjim2/3288324446/ Welcome to Goa. Reply: Build a shelter for this people like they had one at 'sengat' in France, built specially for africans and afghanis to come by lories to UK. Alternatively do not 'patronise' them. (do not use them in any way), you may not but the tourists will.. Therefore it is the devil and the deep blue sea. The Goa Govt wants tourists, can the tourist have a dip in the sea without fear of seeing any thing floating in it? Bring back Porrikar. ED.
[Goanet] This Happened In Bangalore
Inside the police station at Cubbon Park it becomes clear that thesegoons and the police know each other by their first names. Thepoliceman in charge (Thimmappa) initially refuses to even register anycomplaint from me, on the purported grounds that I am not fluent inKannada and I have taken a few drinks (3 Kingfisher pints, to beprecise) over the evening.Fri Feb 20 05:31:19 PST 2009 Roland Francis - Hi Roland, I figured when I was in Mahya Pradesh in the 50s that my destiny was to be away from Goa. So I decided what the heck, away from Goa away from India - same difference. At that time there was this Shiv Sena movement - if I am not mistaken it was the birth place of Shiv Sena in MP/UP. It was then that I decided I should quit India. Watered milk, stones in rice, wheat and dall, milk powder did not smell like milk powder etc etc. India was a waste of time then and it is now. At this rate any progress made will soon vanish the way of Zimbabwe. I wish you and your companions speedy recovery and all the best. ED.
[Goanet] What happened to the Great Goan Poie?
Dr. Jen Lewis said: Dear ED,Perhaps you should ask the local poder instead. Its the goan men who are known to be good cooks and bakers, so don't waste your time asking the women! --- Hi, Does that mean Goan women are useless? Knowing which end of the tendli to cut before cooking is one thing. Feeding the family with Ammonia, flour enhancer, bleach added to it is another. (because they can't/will not be bothered to make chappaties) Why can't Goan women ask the poder instead, as to why it is white and not the colour of wheat? Does it have to be a PhD from USA who had to ask that question - why can't/couldn't you? Me going to the poder?! I make my own chappaties thank-you, reason? the yeast, Ammonia, Enhancers and other additives give me stomach problems. It is the women who buy for the faimily and have the 'final' say in the household; should question what they are feeding their family. Question every thing? - Ahh!! forget it!! ED.
[Goanet] A second crisis in Goa --- that of jobs
Samir said: It is interesting that 900 students are training to be cooks!!! In the recession affected world where people are starting to eat out less. Reply: Really?!! And here I am thinking - cutting tendli is only for girls 'who do not want to do it'. Well! They can always come to UK. A second wave of Indians coming after the computer nerds who are 'can't cut/ won't cut' tendli people and have lost their jobs. It is officially declared today that UK is a fast food country. There is hope after all for the tendli-cutters. ED.
[Goanet] Girls to stay home and cut tendli
Samir said: What is indeed needed in our society is better parenting skills. Reply: By parents themselves who do not know which side of the tendli to cut and cook. How many parents know that hydrogen is infused in cooking oils to prolong its life but not of the people who eat it? Samir said: In our society, everyone gets married and bears kids the moment theyare adults. I guess it is part of freedom. But what we do not look atis how good are the parenting skills of these people. Reply: Really? which society are you talking about? the one that copies the western system 50 years latter, down the line! (quicker now due to the internet and cheap flights). Or, the western society (soon to be copied by the Indians) Children having children (UK)? Samir said: It is much better that one grows emotionally at 20 handling things suchas personal relationships. Reply: If all people had emotions, they would not get divorced, they would work out their ives around their problems, easily. If terrorist had emotions they would not be killing people, some peoples emotions are for after life, to be spent with 72 'houris' after marterdom. Samir said: It is great that today's kids arelearning this at 20then at 40 when one may have to face some of these issues due to circumstances. Reply: True, that we are in India and learning about relationship, but Talibanism is soon screeping up in India. Soon, if any one who comes out and says that they are homosexual, then what? ED.
[Goanet] WALL COLLAPSES in Bicholim Industrial estate
Joe Lobo said: Samir, I do not know if you saw one of the pictures in the Goa Herald of today, 18th February of a couple of firemen and another helper moving one of the injured. It struck me that the Goa fire-brigade men or their medics have never heard of a spine board to move the injury victim. If that man sustained internal injuriesthey would damage him still further with the way they were holding him. It seems that Goa still lingers in the third world ...primitive in handling injured folk.samir umarye wrote: Reply: Is that the only department you are worried about? What about Scarlett and the postmortem butchers? What about the police 'taking hafta', as joegoa said? What about Samir and you running away from it all? and leaving behind the rest of the Goans? who love Goa like Joegoa or the others who say can't move/won't move frm Goa? I tried to tell them, their REPLY? KEYA KAREGA JEE - YAHAM AISAHI CHALTA HAI. ED.
[Goanet] What happened to the Great Goan Poie?
Rajan P. Parrikar said: To Goanet -Have the poders been using Fair & Lovely to seasonthe poie? It has certainly become fairer but notlovelier. Reply: That's what happens when 'women can't cut tendli'. When I questioned my sister-in-law about the white poie, they ignored me, her girls gave me funny looks (none of them can cook). Long live women who can't cut tendli. ED.
[Goanet] Who killed Scalett Keeling
Philomena Fernandes, I agree with Ignatius, we do not try to cover the crime, but let us investigate as to who actually killed her, before trying to push the blame on the conduct of the mother. - Hi, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2246508.ece Ms MacKeown now says she is being sent questions from the Indian police about her personal life and believes they are concentrating their investigation on her rather than Scarlett’s attacker.
[Goanet] Cow urine the new taste sensation as India markets it as a soft drink | World News | News.com.au
Hi, When I wrote a reply to some goanetters ie. Samir, Bhandare etc about Hindu people drinking cow's urine in Banares and Jabalpur. My posting was rejected, saying it is rubbish. (I would like Santosh to be my moderator on Goanet - a 'correct and paste jockey'). Moderators wanted cut and paste job to justify my claim. In fact about Banares I saw it on TV during Kumb Mela and in Jabalpur I saw it myself. ED. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,25043427-38196,00.html Just like Soma; only better!Cheers,rubygoes
[Goanet] Indian Workers in Dubai
This was sent to me by one of our Goanetters: http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/relocatedubai My question is, Why don't the Indian free lance journalist or Indian media do some investigation about their citizens in Dubai? There was an investigative journalism made about this subject 'foreign labour in Dubai' by an Indian Journalist in UK and shown on UK TV. I don't understand why the Indians could not capitalise on this subject, and bring to light the atrocities dished out to the Indians in Dubai? ED. --- The gist of the content: "The nature of my job not only entailed the inspection of construction sites but also necessitated late night meetings with local investors, high-ranking Government officials, overseas clientele and arranging sex-workers to entertain them, in order to secure the necessary funding for the company’s numerous construction projects. This is where I was subject to the reality of Dubai’s human-trafficking and prostitution racket. This inexcusable trade in human flesh is a high-profile activity in a region which hosts Islam's two holiest places –Mecca and Medina. We Indians readily accept the fact that India is not free from the clutches of human trafficking, the sex trade and child slavery, and that the Indian Government, despite undertaking several measures to root out this social menace readily acknowledges the problem our country faces. The Dubai Authorities on the other hand, have turned a blind eye to prostitution and illegal trafficking based solely on greed, hypocrisy and corruption, to the extent that when the Dubai Police's Criminal Investigation Department (CID) makes arrests, (at times) it is because they want to gang rape a particular woman. This is in a land where the legal system implemented by the Dubai Federal Judiciary is based on a very strict code of conduct known as Sharia law that imposes the death penalty for adultery and prostitution. This kind of hypocrisy and exploitation goes against all the tenets and teachings of our Zoroastrian religion and made me seriously reconsider my position. During my three years in Dubai, I was witness and also subject to acts of racism, where people are strictly segregated and a hierarchy worthy of previous centuries prevails. At the top, dominating all other poor mortals, in their black or white robes, are the locals with their oil money. Under the locals come the western foreigners, the experts and advisers, making double the salaries they make back home, all tax free. Beneath them are the Arabs - Lebanese and Palestinians, Egyptians and Syrians. I realised that what unites these groups is a mixture of pretension and racism. We Indians come way below, at the bottom rung of this ladder, and it is indeed sad to see how many Indians, including Parsis, quietly accept and subject themselves to this inhuman treatment, all in the name of the money they worship. The final straw on the camel’s back was when I decided to quit my job and move back to Ahmedabad as my wife was diagnosed as suffering from the worst form of Tuberculosis, a drug resistant strain of Pulmonary TB. I was told by my company that I needed to complete my three year contract before I could leave Dubai. It all started with Legionnaires' disease, which she contracted from the hotel in which we were put up for a month, when we first came to Dubai. Legionnaires' disease has become increasingly prevalent in hotels in Dubai, due to the high flow of traffic in all hotels, including five-star hotels, which cannot cope with this traffic and therefore, have absolutely low or even zero maintenance and disinfection procedures of air conditioning ducts, humidifiers, shower heads, and any piping in which water can lay. The Legionnaires' disease worsened and escalated to Pulmonary Tuberculosis. Because of the very nature of Pulmonary drug resistant TB, which is an often virulent infectious and contagious disease, my wife was refused permission by the Dubai Health Authority (DHA) to fly back to Ahmedabad, and was quarantined for six months in hospital in an isolation ward. My pleas of help and support to the Indian High Commission fell on deaf ears, as they too had no power to intervene with the DHA. I also contacted the Dubai-based Khaleej Times and Gulf News, to tell them my about my difficult situation and I was subsequently threatened with imprisonment by the Government, which controls and oversees each and every aspect of the press, enforcing media-related laws, censoring publications and even going so far as to appoint approved and vetted editors, who "toe-the Government-line." Unlike in India, where we are so used to free and fair speech and freedom of the Press, my dear fellow Zoroastrians, that kind of freedom is absolutely unheard of and unimaginable in Dubai! Increasingly, my wife’s condition worsened, until finally, exactly a year to the date she contracted the disease in this land, my beloved wife and the l
[Goanet] Salaam Sahab!
When I was at a Gurgaon hotel in 2006 on an extendedstay, the manner of the doorman was so utterly degradingthat I once pulled him aside and offloaded my spiel aboutthe white British sahabs having left the country over 50 years ago. He responded by saying that I was "100% correct, Sir."But what to do, if he did not salute and rush to openand close doors, the hotel management would fire him. Rajan P. Parrikar -- Reply: This is preciscely why about 200 people died in Mumbai. When there were baricades at Taj the attack which was supposed to take place in Sept. was abandoned. As soon as the baricade was lifted in Nov. and the doorman started saluting the terrorist for brining in the fireworks, - no problem. Arn't these doormen - today's security? - when will the Hotel managers learn their lesson? - will they ever? ED.
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Caju, Urak, Fenni etc
Ice fruit wala used to roan in the villages shouting 'Ice-crutey'Today, each seed would woth about 100 times more. -- Hi Joe, You reminded me again, Ice-crute to me was equivalent to today's 'kwality' ice cream. It was worth 1 poiso in my days, and the gajuchew bee-ew were worthless to the icecrute-wala who brought the lollies in a couple of big thermos (yellow or red? he asked). ED.
[Goanet] Talking Photos: Caju, Urak, Fenni etc
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk2/2343065757/sizes/l/ Hi Joe, Forget about the cajus, looking at the seeds they still make me crazy. Not to eat them but to count how many I had in my pocket after wining them at. "Aim the boto and take all the seeds that are lined up after the big seed 'Boto'. ED.
[Goanet] Cure for the Common Cold? Not Yet, but It Looks Possible
Curing the common cold, one of medicine’s most elusive goals, may now be in the realm of the possible. Researchers said Thursday that they had decoded the genomes of the 99 strains of common cold virus and developed a catalog of the virus’s vulnerabilities. The common cold has long defied treatment because the rhinovirus, which causes the majority of colds, has so many strains and presents a moving target for any drug or vaccine. The new findings are of particular interest to physicians who specialize in asthma. Rhinoviruses are thought to trigger half of all asthma attacks. Dr. Fernando Martinez, an asthma expert at the University of Arizona, said that with the new rhinovirus family tree it should be possible for the first time to identify which particular branch of the tree held the viruses most provocative to asthma patients. If antiviral agents could be developed against this group of viruses, “it would be an extraordinary advance,” Dr. Martinez said. The typical cost of developing a new drug is now $700 million, he said, “with interminable fights with financiers and regulators.” The common cold may seem like a pharmaceutical goldmine because it’s so prevalent, but the industry tends to look for conditions that are more serious. There are at present no effective treatments for the common cold. Frequent hand-washing is the best preventive, Dr. Miller said. For once a cold has started, she recommended washing out the nasal passages, warm drinks and rest. -- for more: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/13/health/research/13cold.html?hp
[Goanet] North East
Marshall to Santosh: An institution linked to the RSS and headed by persons associated with theRSS is considered multipartisan. Ha ha ha!! That was a good joke. Tell usanother one, just like the other one, tell us another one too ..Cheers!!Marshall - Hi, Some people have learnt a new English word called 'partisan', they do not know how and where to use it, they take a shot in the dark. Sometimes they get it right. Don't call it a joke! they are partisan-serious. -- Quote: I have to cut and paste for the readers so as to help ourselves. Reply: Wrong, If you don't cut and paste moderators think you are making up stories.(same difference? - ah! well) Cut and paste gets, up some peoples noses because they are facts, consequently they cannot contradict the facts, on goanet. This annoys them. --- Quote: This helps us to diagnose what is affecting and inffecting our humanity and empathy. Reply: Wrong again, This helps us to distinguish the good and the bad done by evil political parties. (not by ordinary good people) Cut and paste, annoys some people because the fact of the matter is: It's not an attack on people of different religion but - on the activity of a nasty political party. --- No matter how much one tries to avoid conflict of violence via religion. Some people are hell-bent on leading you to speak nasty of, and create trouble involving religion. They cannot succeed here (grapes are sour) so they go and open their own group to propagate filth. ED.
[Goanet] Dead Sea Scrolls
Orlando- Original Message - From: "Seb dc"
[Goanet] Maid from Bihar gangraped in Goa
Samir said: Isn't it high time for Digamber to resign? The law and order in Goa hasgone to the dogs. regards,Samir Ed said TO Samir: Yep! Next time you get a cold - tell him to resign. Dr Barad the USA Scientist said: People staying in Goa are suffering from DI.GU.virus. Goan Scientists (RG &NRG) are working over time to locate the treatment for this deadly virus...Have you any suggestion to make on this research! Cold is curable but not this virus until persons like you can contribute tothe on going research for best treatment to save Goa. Ed the illiterate says: Immigration is the answer, for people LIVING in Goa and to do that the people with USA passport would do well to sponsor the Goans who would like to get away from these Bihari BNP supporters in Goa. As for people STAYING in Goa, some care two hoots and others have been imported/bussed/brought by trains by the BJP and fed and watered in Goa to make trouble for Goa. By the way, it is not 'Digu' virus but 'Porrikar' viral infection in Goa via Siv Sena sponsorship. Digu is an antidote to this viral Safron menace. ED.
[Goanet] Breakdown of law and order in Karnataka: Renuka
Hi All, Incidences of women being slapped on the streeets in Karnataka was a precursor to what was to follow. It gradually decends to lawlessness en mass. Who is to blame? BJP BJP supporters directly or in-directly propagate hate - read on: "It is a much deeper rot. Today it is a pub, tomorrow if you are sitting in the staircase in front of your house, they will come and slap you. It is fascism, there is an attempt to spread an ideology of hatred in Karnataka, an attempt to bring a communal divide," Chowdhury said. DON'T LOOK AT ME, I DIDN'T SAY THAT - she did. ED. - http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1228502 New Delhi: Coming down heavily on the BJP government in Karnataka in the wake of Mangalore incidents, Women and Child Development minister Renuka Chowdhury on Saturday said there was a "breakdown" of law and order in the state where "Talibanisation" is happening. "All instruments of democracy" will be used to stop such incidents, she told reporters here commenting on Friday night's kidnapping of the daughter of a Kerala MLA and her Muslim male friend from a bus in Mangalore by activists of Sri Ram Sene. "The state government is not in control of the law and order situation... Talibanisation is happening. There is a clean communal divide where a Hindu girl is prevented from talking to a Muslim boy...it is a very dangerous trend," the minister said. "There is a breakdown of law and order in Karnataka and I think we should look at it as a national security problem," she said. Asked why the Centre was not intervening, Chowdhury said the Government is "respecting the Centre-state ties" but nobody should think that it is "weak or cannot do anything." "We are repeatedly warning the state government that they should take cognisance. When it is necessary we will take a step," the minister said. Referring to the recent attack by Sene activists on women in a Mangalore pub, she said the issue should not be diluted by saying that it is only about "pub culture." "It is a much deeper rot. Today it is a pub, tomorrow if you are sitting in the staircase in front of your house, they will come and slap you. It is fascism, there is an attempt to spread an ideology of hatred in Karnataka, an attempt to bring a communal divide," Chowdhury said. Slamming the BJP-led regime, she said "it is fascism supported by a state government that we need to be concerned about." Chowdhury said she will continue to pressurise the state government along with the civil society. Voicing apprehension that similar incidents may take place on Valentine's Day, she said "I have no confidence on the state government...I am watching the situation to see how best to carry this forward... I am still giving a long rope to the state government. I will talk to the chief minister and is writing a letter to him," she said. "We have various instruments of democracy to use when the situation arises," Chowdhury warned.
[Goanet] Pinto Too Skinny For Indian TV (http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm2951768/)
Washington: Slumdog Millionaire's star Freida Pinto has revealed that she missed out on a career as a TV presenter in India because her twin assets weren't big enough. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1226246 Trivia Freida's parents are from Mangalore, a coastal town in southern India. Her father is a banker, while her mother is the principal of a High School. Her sister, Sharon, is a producer with the Indian news channel, NDTV. http://uk.imdb.com/name/nm2951768/bio
[Goanet] karnataka the new Hindu bastion
Samir said: Haventyou heard the dictum "All it takes for evil to win is for good peopleto do nothing". Then he goes on to say: here in Bangalore i haveseen vociferous saffron flag waving crowds coming out in the streetsafter India beats Pakistan in a game. Hi All, That goes to show that there are no Good people in India, just BAD and the Ugly sorry, NEUTRAL. It is not the duty of the Govt to ram 'good behaviour' down the throats of illiterate rowdy people. These people are getting support and monetary help to make banners (cloth does not come cheap) and transport from BAD political parties in India. Blaming the Govt every time a Bihari Shiv Sena supporter rapes a girl while living in Goa with monetary help from BJP party to feed himself and make trouble. Is not an exemplary mode for one to say, "All it takes for evil to win is for good peopleto do nothing". and Digu should resign. Nasty people WILL come out with safron flags 'when they are supplied with', that flag is a BJP Shiv Sena backing for them, it is the duty of the BJP to put an end to it. ED.
[Goanet] Goa - Who killed Scarlett - TV Documentary
Hi All, For those interested. Fiona and Scarlett Goa Documentary on British Telly. UK - Channel 4 on Thursday the 12.2.09 @ 22.00. ED.
[Goanet] Maid from Bihar gangraped in Goa
Isn't it high time for Digamber to resign? The law and order in Goa hasgone to the dogs. regards,Samir Yep! Next time you get a cold - tell him to resign. ED.
[Goanet] Priests and their fundamental rights
Fr. Ivo C da Souza wrote: The Church isplaying a very important role in the education of children. Most Hindus andMuslims, besides Christians, have taken its benefit...regards. Fr. Ivo -- Dr Barad said! Before I agree or disagree with the writer I would request the writer toprovide details on the number of education institutions in Goa, as of date,which are run and controlled by Churches (Catholic Organizations included),Hindus organizations, and Muslim Organizations and also number of Hindus,Catholics and Muslims studying in each of these institutions. This factualreality will answer writer’s views / expression. Best regards,Dr. U. G. BaradOn -- Reply, I also would like to ask the accusing writer to read Fr Ivo's statement again. I repeat - he says: HAVE taken its benefits - MAY I ASK - HAVE YOU? That is precisely what I keep sayng, Christian education specially the 10 commandments based education has FILTERED into non Christian Institutions. These people conviniently forget that the Moral education these days is Christian in Origin. Just like Democracy which is Greek in Origin (UK and USA think it is theirs) Democratic Countries just practice it - credit goes to Greece/ Simmilarly the fundamental Moral practice practiced these days is Christian in Origin. School is also Greek in Origin (started by Socrates), Accademy and College to Plato and Archimides. ED. Ministers (Pakistan as well as India) Children are sent to Catholic Schools (prefered over Christian school). ED.
[Goanet] Priests and their fundamental rights
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com For those who have problem clicking here is the news:- (Dr. U. G. Barad) If the revolting images of women being slapped, pushed and molested inMangalore in the name of protecting Hindu culture seemed like the work ofIndia's loony political fringe, think again. --- Hi, Slapping women in India, Hitting women on their ankels and hands in Afghanistan (of a lady surgeon, whose hands were swollen due to this, and could not operate). Burning churches, killing innocent Christians (just because of their Religion). IS DUE TO LACK OF EDUCATION. Is state education sufficient to change this jungle culture, which is emination due to 'lack' of PROPER education? Some people may have had a good education due to direct or filtered Missionary education connections into their curriculum (like Porrikar and such like). Priests do not force children or parents to send their children to be educated or to be converted, (we are not in the dark ages in 2009). But, by the looks of it, I feel that some people 'are', on Goanet (mentally in the dark ages I mean, simply because they belong to other religion than Christianity). ED.
[Goanet] Obama holds Indians in high regard
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com "President Obama would develop a very positive and friendly relation with India. He holds Indians and Indian-Americans in very high regard," Raja Krishnamoorthi, Obama's policy director during his US senate campaign, said. Krishnamoorthi, who currently is the deputy treasurer for Policy and Programs in the Illinois State treasurer's office, has known Obama for the last 10 years and has worked with him as policy director and senior advisor for his US Senate Campaign during 2002-04. Referring to Indian influence on Obama's life, Krishnamoorthi recalled Obama had portraits of just three leaders in his Senate Office, that of Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King Jr and Mahatma Gandhi. "Each of the individuals means a great deal to him. They represent how he views not just America but the rest of the world," he said. Krishnamoorthi was among the select few "family and friends" from the president's hometown to be invited for the Inauguration in Washington on January 20. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1226199
[Goanet] Priests and their fundamental rights
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com >Most Hindus and Muslims, besides Christians, have taken >its benefit... >> >>I >am not sure what he means by this statement. Does state >have no role >to play >in the education of children? --I agree with Sandeep and Santosh's >assertions. Religion should not play a role in the academic syllabus of a >progressive, secular state. It is grossly immoral to impart falsities to our >children in the name of religion. We have to move beyond the medieval concepts >of science and morality that the major religions of this world propagate.Selma --- Hi, The state schools do not uphold the rights and wrongs in society. Like in the Christian education the 'minimum' to follow are the ten commandments. State schools do not even have that, so how will the state education help - which RULE (measure I mean) do they follow? How is Good and Bad dittermined? If you fall back and refelct - you will find that the principles of 'Christian education' creeps into the psyche of education system as a whole, like it or not. ED.
[Goanet] Priests and their fundamental rights
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Fr. Ivo C da Souza wrote:>>**The State is not a model in teaching to "critically discern the truth". >The Church is playing a very important role in the education of children. >Most Hindus and Muslims, besides Christians, have taken its benefit... >I am not sure what he means by this statement. Does state have no roleto play in the education of children? Only the Church can criticallydiscern the truth for all children, even the Muslim and Hindu ones,because it is playing a very important role in education?Cheers,Santosh --- Hi, The state falls short of the true role of proper education. That is why the ministers send their children (more so in Pakistan) to missionary schools, and then to UK and USA. If the state education in India was good enough, there was no need for children to go Abroad for their education. The Priests just sends the right and TRUE message to the chiildren they teach. The Priests did not force the parents to send their children to them to be taught, it is the parents choice. Porrikar got his education from a Catholic School and in turn he sent HIS children to a Catholic school. Actions speak louder than your meaningless 'chamcha' words. ED.
[Goanet] Talking Photo: Moon Tracker
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com - It seems the visibility or the appearance of the moon is delayed by about an hour every day. i.e. if you first see the moon say at 10pm, the next day it will appear say around 11pm and son on.- on the 15th Jan it appeared just before midnight but on the 16th night it appeared after midnight around 1am date being 17th Jan. Hence you see the 16th Jan day missing in the above chart/pic.- On 23rd it appeared around 6am and on 24th around 7am, it may have appeared on 25th around 8am but due to broad day light it was not visible. http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3237665878/sizes/l/ -- Hi Mr JoeGoa, Good work thanks for the trouble and the posting. Firstly, is this not why Pope Gregory started the calender we are now following? Is it not because of the slow movement of the moon that the Indians have the 'Maha Ganga-dip Mela' every so many years? Because, the moon has fallen back with the sun's movement and therefore one day has been lost, and that day has to be spent in worship? Is that not why one day has been added to our Gregorian Calender every 4 years in Feb.? Is that not why we have our four seasons? Is that not why Moon is more important to us than the Sun? Is that not why we should worship the moon and not the sun, (moon gives us seasons, sun burns it up, sun is evil) ED.
[Goanet] Why force one's notion of Indian culture?
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com truenot just for women but also for men, but why force one's views ?If you can, teach people what is a good culture against bad. In theworst case, have peaceful demonstrations outside pubs. That is thedemocratic way. - Samir Kelekar Reply, Very true, There was a TV program on Thursday in UK, about teenagers drinking in UK. The teenager said her mother does not drink or smoke. So, why and who come her daughter is drinking and smoking? Many years ago after and during the war, the Salvation Army women (mostly) used to demonstrate outside pubs. What has changed since then? Are Muslims not drinking? I know one, a Muslim colleague of mine who does drink AT WORK because he cannot do so at home and in his locality. Educating Individuals is the only way. ED.
[Goanet] Church - back to front
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com It is the same in a bus. When you enter through the back door, when the kilinder says "Mukhar vos re", you have to go to the front of the bus. When you enter through the front door, if he says "Mukhar vos re", you have to go to the back of the bus.Cheers,Santosh Never heard such rubbish! Killinder says to go in front of him (killinder) not the caminhaum (bus). The alter and the church does not move like your bus and has only one entrance, so your hollow argument does not hold water here. ED.
[Goanet] Priests and their fundamental rights
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com From: "Sandeep Heble" < sandeepheble at gmail.com >> Should Priests and other spiritual figures associated with religion >enjoy an absolute freedom to preach or should their freedom be a > restricted one? ***Yes, provided that they preach with wisdom, responsibility and love (Fr.Ivo). -- Hi Fr Ivo, I did not bother to respond to this topic because. This topic has been dealt with in 'detail' during the elections. (I suppose you have more patience than me). Either some posters here are short of understanding, have short memory OR are pure and simple a chamcha. Are the moderators wasting their time filing away all the topic that was discussed during the elections and etc. topics? Why can't they go back and have a look at what was discussed? ED..
[Goanet] India has no better friend, partner than the US: Obama
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1225108 (Monday, January 26, 2009 12:05 IST-PTI) Washington, DC: Asserting that Indians have "no better friend and partner" than the American people, president Barack Obama said on Monday that their "shared values" enable the two countries to meet any challenge, particularly from those who "use violence to try to undermine our free and open societies".
[Goanet] Here's Bush & Sasha
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com According to a lip reader, the first African-American president of the United States, just after the ceremony, asked George W Bush: "You OK?" As to what was Bush's reply, according to The Sun, the lip reader said: "So relieved." seven-year-old first daughter Sasha was said to have told her president-dad: "That was a good speech, perfect." http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1223586
[Goanet] God and You
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com Atheist bus ads say ‘probably no God’ (http://www.assistnews.net/Stories/2009/s09010043.htm) “There’s probably no God. Now stop worrying and enjoy your life.”, and will appear on 600 buses across the country, including 30 of London's bendy buses, as well as London tube stations. “The slogan itself is a great discussion starter. Telling someone “there's probably no God” is a bit like telling them that they've probably remembered to lock their front door.. It creates the doubt that they might not have done so.” “If God did exist, what would you ask him?” (Or her) --- Albert writes:- God brings peace to one's heart. All your disturbances vanish when we see God.
[Goanet] Save the Environment: Eat Beef!
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com Hi, What figures have you got to prove that Aviation High Octane fuel emitts more carbon than the Diesel Trucks on the road emitting carsinogenic particulates, or the Ships that burn dense diesel to bring the oil and petrol to your car? You are watching and listening to too much useless propaganda news. People who are living and working abroad - how do you expect them to come to India? via train (diesel) and then by ship (diesel) which will take 6 months to India? I do not eat the holy cow (aversion to dairy products). ED. Tony Martin : okay if we could milk aircrafts. But figuratively up to now it is airlines that have been milking us – budget airlines being no exception
[Goanet] Thousands attend Hindu Congregation at Panjim
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com Sandeep Heble said in response to: Fr Ivo writes: "You yourself said, that you do not believe that thecow is sacred (not a "holy animal").Cow is certainly not goddess."My Response:If you wish to take my opinion, then neither is the cow a Goddess noris Jesus Christ a God or a son of God or whatever.. Just a human if hewas a real historical personality. I would say the same thing aboutRam, Krishna and the various other human personalities who have beenequated to the status of God. My opinion is from the rationalscientific perspective. -- Reply: Jesus Christ existed. Ram, Sita, Hanuman, Ravana, God with an Elephant head, are mythological characters. If you want to propagate them as Gods that's your choice. Ed.
[Goanet] Thousands attend Hindu congregation in Panjim
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com Bosco's RESPONSE: All your conspiracy theories are not going to distract from your irresponsible statements made in this post:http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-January/172654.html You would do yourself a favour by acknowledging your lapse instead of setting off on anectodal stories that are disconnected from your original transgression. Hi Bosco, Fair enough, the topic is about Panjim Hindu gathering. The transgression as you call it - similar Sikh only gathering had taken place in Punjab before the end result? - which was to kill Indira who was developing the Indian economy. Transgressed and diverse mode regards Kalisthan and Indira? you may say, - well you cannot achieve one without the other. That is the only way Western Intelligence can say we had nothing to do with it (let the locals do the dirty work - we pay). Western Intelligence of making Natives of India, Middle East, Africa, etc fight against each other via transgressed mode, is obvious - if ONLY you will look deeply. I was merely pointing out the different mode of sleaze activities the CIA, MI6 & French Foreign Legion employ to gain their end result. For example there is a French girl at Potta (the Kerala Retreat Centre) she has been there for 6 months. Who is paying for her stay there? If only you knew the training and method of employing used by the MI6. (they just showed briefly on UK TV what it takes, by ex-agents of MI6). The German woman doing Research in Goa - Oh Yes! with her daughter doing the Mata Harri with Ministers sons? ED.
[Goanet] Thousands attend Hindu congregation in Panjim
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com Bosco said: Original: Haven't you heard of wrong information being fed to educated Catholics?If you walk around Goa and make comments like above, will the peace and quiet remain??- B Reply: If someone said all Goan Christians should gather in Panjim, how many do you think will do? Bosco! - there will be more spectators of other religion than Christians. How many people in India (educated or not) can connect the killing of Indira Gandhi to the high value of the Rupee? Bosco! Are you saying the Foreign Agencies are not working in Goa and other parts of India, looking for an opening to creat trouble? just a spark anywere in India will do, they will than fan the fire with more money and hope for the worst for India. I was in India when the £ was worth Rs. 15 and heading towards 13. (French Fr. 12, was to the £). Trouble started in Punjab she got killed and the Re. went back to its normal value of Rs,75 to the £. How many people in the WORLD can connect the attempted murder of Asil Nadir (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asil_Nadir) and his escape from Britain to save his life? vs The increasing value of the Turkish Economy at that time? His monopoly over the packing Boxes and Citrus fruits did that. Who told him about the danger to his life? Mr Mates via Free Masons. Who arranged his escape? Well! he did escape to save his life If he was a convict he would have been extradited, UK Govt knows he is not, so they decided 'let sleeping dogs lie'. Princess Diana, The Mercedes they were travelling in was found to have faulty brakes, it was stolen a few days earlier. Who is the one who keeps on saying Question every thing! Is that why my postings are delayed for questioning, before they are posted and often rejected! ED. -- My original post in reply to Marshal, This posting might sound a bit odd to you and crazy as well. THIS IS HOW THE TROUBLE STARTS. In fact CIA and other Foreign Agencies pay a few of THEIR Pennies to local people to cause agitation. A similar case where by Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale an Illiterate person who could not read or write was made head of an agitation with foreign money.
[Goanet] Thousands attend Hindu congregation in Panjim
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com The meeting was nothing more than an announcement that elections are duesoon and an attempt at polarising people. Regards,Marshall . Reply: This posting might sound a bit odd to you and crazy as well. THIS IS HOW THE TROUBLE STARTS. In fact CIA and other Foreign Agencies pay a few of THEIR Pennies to local people to cause agitation. A similar case where by Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale an Illiterate person who could not read or write was made head of an agitation with foreign money. Once the objective was achieved the money dried out, in the process he was killed. Now can you tell me what is kalis than, is it a name of a mithai or a laddoo? I have been talking to Pakistanis in UK, who say "our people do not understand the politics that is played by the Foreign Govts to create problems". There has been peace and quiet in Goa between Hindus as Christians. Only way to create trouble in Goa is to Unite uneducated Hindus and feed wrong information to them. Try what may the few educated Hindus (do they have foreign money?) will never be able to convince the illiterate otherwise. ED.
[Goanet] Indian-origin parents in UK appeal for missing son
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com kam...@ankaservices.com http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1220359 London: An Indian-origin family made an emotional appeal for the safe return of their 15-year-old son, who went missing since Tuesday en-route to his school. The parents of Jonathan Marques, a Reading-based family of Goa origin, wept through out the press conference and asked anyone who has seen him, to get in touch. The family, which moved to the UK three years ago, in their plea said "Jonathan, if you are there, just give us a call and tell us you are safe. Please come home. We love you and we miss you. Please come home." His father, Menino Marques, said "Anybody who knows anything about Jonathan, please phone the police." Arcanja Afonso Marques, his mother, sobbed inconsolably throughout the press conference, reports from Reading near London said. He was last seen leaving home at 8.30am on Tuesday morning in his Blessed Hugh Faringdon school uniform but he did not arrive at the school. When he did not come home in the afternoon, his parents became worried and checked with friends before calling the police. Chief superintendent Richard Bennett said: "Jonthan is a very quiet boy and keeps himself to himself. Most of his friends are at the school and we are talking to them." Bennett also said Jonathan was very keen to return to his home town Goa in India and that had caused a few problems at home. "Jonathan hasn't been particularly happy at school and he would like to go back to Goa in India where his family have come from three years ago and that has caused a few tensions at home," he said. "He doesn't have his passport with him or any money or his phone and we've got no reason to believe he has left the area. There is nothing to suggest that there is any foul play involved. The most likely explanation is that he has decided to run away or he's been staying somewhere. "His family are very distressed. If there have been some disagreements in the past that is something we can work through. The important thing is we are reassured that he is safe." The Reading police have searched his route to school and interviewed pupils, who were told the news in a special assembly. They have also examined CCTV footage from shops and railway stations.
[Goanet] .... has never been communal / Confidential report in the file
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Hi All, Here is a clear proof that TRUTH HURTS. Doesn't matter how old it is, if it is true why shove it under the carpet? I ask. ED. --- Santosh Said about Marshall: On Thu, 1/1/09, Marshall Mendonza wrote:>>But I can say for sure that he has put up a spirited defence of the sangh >parivar. It is all documented in the archives. >A critical reader would question why Marshall continues to demonize a person who does not fall for the recycled material that he circulates in this forum. Why is Marshall not able to engage in an honest debate on the merits of the "facts" that he tells people he is presenting? Why does he have to lean on the crutch of terms such as Sangh Parivar with negative connotations to the readership of this forum? It is because he has nothing to show for himself that a critical reader would actually believe.Santosh Helekar
[Goanet] Please identify these heavenly bodies - In defence of Astrology
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Thanks Bosco and JoeGoa for:- BRef:http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/545772 and http://www.flickr.com/photos/joegoauk16/3154579636/ -- Me says: It is said, it is written in the skies. Every now and again when such phenomenons occur some Great Human is born or elevated. Some say Astrology is bunkum, may be so. During the time of USA Elections, Moon, Venus, Jupiter and Pluto were in close approximation. The Star of Bethlemem was such a phenomenon too. We human believe that Moon has effect on us because we see the Moon, the nearest rock to the Earth. While other rocks are ignored - because they are too far away and cannot be seen with the naked eye? They have no influence on us, just holding the Solar system together? If one goes or blows up will the Earth survive? ED.
[Goanet] God sucks or religion?
* * * * * * * * * ANNUAL GOANETTERS MEET * * * * * * * * * Goanetters in Goa and visiting meet Jan 6, 2009 at 3.30 pm at Hotel Mandovi (prior to the Goa Sudharop event, which you're also welcome to). Join in for a Dutch dinner -- if we can agree on a venue after the meet. RSVP (confirmations only) 9822122436 or 2409490 or f...@goa-india.org Sandeep Heble said: God sucks or religion?Mon Dec 29 22:07:50 PST 2008 The same principle would apply to Samir's "God sucks" post. If we hadapplied the tests of reasonableness at the very first instance whichyou seem to have done now, it would have been clear to each one of usthat Samir meant the "concept of God" and not God literally. And bylogic and inference Religion too, since religion is based on theconcept of God. --- Reply: Some people may have got the word wrong. I'm quiet happy to dissect what Samir said during 360 days of the year. To have posted that statement during Christian Holy Happy days is what most of us Christians took offence to. It does not matter what he assumes or his conception is, it is the TIMING that was offencive. In his defence to justify he said 'right to convert' topic was going on for a long time, - 'god sucks' was his reply. Christians do not go on a campaign trail during Christmas to convert people, - God sucks could have waited. NOW HIS CONCEPTION HAS CHANGED AGAIN, HAS IT? Or YOU making up stories as you go along to shield him. Words can be manipulated, what is meant during certain period is hurtful. My assumption of him is that he is not thinking straight or he is psychologically traumatised in wanting to be part of Christianity. In frustration he is unwittingly using negative psychology at an appropriate time, to frustrate Christians. ED.
[Goanet] Indian priests in USA
Teotonio R. de Souza, said: In a parish that received an Indian priest, five older couples asked to leave, objecting to his accent. In the end, only three changed parishes. -- Reply: The same was in the 60s and before in UK, till more Indians came from Kenya and then Uganda. Oldies are the worst offenders regards colour till today. That is why I declare that Religion sucks not God. ED.
[Goanet] God sucks or religion?
Hi Sandeep, No 3. is interesting. ARE WE SAYING GOD SUCKS OR RELIGION SUCKS? (only the illiterate and those easily brainwashed say Gods are different). Discarding Religion is possible but not God. Therefore if Religion sucks I agree with you, but not God. Once upon a time white people said African black people were animals and treated them as such. Today even animals like dogs are recognised to have jealousy, emotions, preception, etc. (we already knew about elephants and Apes). What makes you think that all animals (including human animal) do not except God as their creator? - only time will tell. My conclusion is that Samir and you have meant (sorry, assume to say) 'Religion sucks'. ED. --- Sandeep said: 1. Has the concept of God benefited humanity or has it harmed humanity?2. Is religion in its present form good or bad?3. Should the concepts of God and religion be improved or do they needto be discarded altogether?4. Is God a regressive concept or is it a progressive one?A lot of these and similar questions need to be answered. Let's moveforward positively. CheersSandeep
[Goanet] God sucks (Bosco D'Mello)
Hi Bosco, Are we talking about God or different religions, according to their beliefs in God. There is a question raised, if Qur'an is the word of God, in what language was it written in. If one says Arabic, Arabic language did not exist during Muhammad's days. Gods words in Gods language - what language is it? ED. "This would mean that we would have to abolish the religion altogether," Kizilkaya said. "We are convinced the Prophet did indeed exist and that the Qur'an is the word of God." http://www.thestar.com/article/557645
[Goanet] God sucks
Sandeep Heble said: For those who want to hear only good stuff written about God or religion, my sincere advice to them is to please go to the Temple orthe Mosque or the Church. In this forum, you may hear a lot of things that you would not like to. Reply: It is one thing to say your God may suck but my devil is good and another to see the real result of a Godless society (UK). UK Churches are turned into pubs, mosques, and temples - Why? Intermarriges. Their children are left to believe in whatever they want to believe in (without religious education), - what exactly is that? Does saying God sucks - solve the problem? People in UK have 'not' gone deliberately in saying God sucks, it has become a generation thing. Outcome is not good. Therefore, God sucks are thoughless words ED.
[Goanet] The Right to Convert
The Right to Convert Fri Dec 26 13:57:13 PST 2008 By MD. Hi, Maurice D'Mello's article above (which I do not wish to repeat) is brilliantly written. The question to be asked is - has it or will it suffice to convince some, 'the great big thinkers on goanet?'. They say there is shortage of thinking on Goanet. (if he assumes something else as Sandeep says, like shortage of thinking worldwide). This is not a world forum. Samir's God may suck but my devil is no better either. Meaning, because God sucks in UK, the children now in UK are gone 'feral'. This an official verdict - not my made up story. Therefore the good and bad via God and the devil is an essential part of early upbringing. We being animals, we do not fully understand why 'certain' things happen in our life that is why we are helplessly addicted to the 'supreme force'. ED.
[Goanet] Why God sucks --- a good discussion
FNPS: Could we declare this to be Goanet's word of the year? CheckMerriam-Webster's Word of the Year 2008 -- Hi Frederick, What a brilliant idea! Why didn't I think of it first? (may be because some people are non-thinkers?) Any way, to make up for the loss, I suggest you ask LIMKA BOOK OF RECORDS for an accolade while I ask Hon. Keith Vaz in UK to recommend Dr Samir (PhD) for an OBE. ED.
[Goanet] God sucks
Hi Sandeep, Samir said:-(But then, if there is one thing in short supply in this world, it is 'thinking'. Samir) (My post was in response to the long discussion that was going on aboutconversions, hence the timing.Samir). (I would consider the derogratorywords to denigrate non-Goans by calling them ghantis much worse thandenigrating a fictional entity called God. Samir) What you presume is not consistent with what he said during Christmas, if he is a 'great' thinking person: He should have thought about bringing this topic up some other time, He also defends himself by saying that Goans call ALL non Goans ghantis and forced conversion etc etc etc. This is not consistent of what he says that he is, ie. a PhD (self certified? - must be). His defence by implying ghantis and forced conversions during Christmas, and God sucks, does not hold water. (Unless he is psychologically traumatised in wanting to become a Christian during Christmas days or just jealous of Christmas and Christians) God during our 'Joyous' days should be kept apart from politics for a few days, - that is what one should be thinking. You said: (Samir's thoughts are not too fundamentally different from those ofsome extreme religious believers) Reply: That may be so; Christians have not bombed any one and have not forced any one to become Christians THESE DAYS, therefore his thoughts and YOURS should be put abyss. ED. --- Sandeep said, What I presume he means, and this is in consistency with what he hasalways said, is that the concept of God has brought a lot of miseryand is responsible for a lot of destruction to humankind and it isthis religious concept that sucks. Not Jesus or Ganesha or any otherGod literally!Samir's thoughts are not too fundamentally different from those ofsome extreme religious believers, who too believe that God sucks. That is except the God that they believe in!CheersSandeep.Sandeep Heble
[Goanet] How Ajmal was broken
http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1216577&pageid=2 “Maria saheb’s Punjabi really helped us in a big way,” the source said. “Most times the religious and linguistic barriers become stumbling blocks during investigation of sensitive cases. Ajmal felt at ease talking in his mother tongue.”
[Goanet] Why God sucks --- a good discussion
My post was in response to the long discussion that was going on aboutconversions, hence the timing. But then, if there is one thing in short supply in this world, it is 'thinking'. samir I would consider the derogratorywords to denigrate non-Goans by calling them ghantis much worse thandenigrating a fictional entity called God. samir -- Hi, Will all decent Goanetters join me in saying, Thank God for 'thinking' samir. What would we have done without him - Heh! Secondly: A thinking person should realise that Goans do not call ALL non Goans 'ganthis'. Only those (including Goans) who sleep rough, shit and soil our beautiful beaches. THATS A THINKING MAN FOR YOU, not any self certified PhD who mistimes dialogue on Goanet. God is not fictional, humans as animals need a super entity (it happens to be named God) ED.
[Goanet] Why God sucks --- a good discussion
Hi, I agree with this person that God should be discussed. Is God Goan? to discuss this topic on Goanet? Secondly there is time and place for everything. Is this the right time to discuss God? If so! Why didn't he raise this topic during Hindu or Muslim holy days? -- http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=3176 Check the above url. There is a good discussion on both pro and cons of why God sucks.regards,Samir
[Goanet] God sucks
Hi, Funny that. Samir Kelekar wouldn't come with that sort of propaganda against God, during Ganesh or Lakshmi Puja! One sided opinionated people, why are they encouraged on Goanet? Dear Goanetters, I was shocked and saddened to see such words appear on Goanet in the context of God especially on the eve of His Son birthday. I am sure almost all decent Goans will also be repulsed by such language. Warm regards, John D'Souza Moderator Margaonet
[Goanet] More gunmen may be around: Experts(CIA)
WASHINGTON: Several attackers may have survived the three-day siege of Mumbai that killed 171 people last week, analysts said on Thursday. “I think there are more. My sources say (there were) at least 23 gunmen,” said Farhana Ali, a former CIA and Rand Corp counterterrorism analyst and expert on militant networks. Ali, who visited India and Pakistan last month before the attacks, said her information came from Pakistan. “If that’s true, that makes one wonder why we haven’t seen more attacks? Are they lying low?” she said, “I think they (Indian authorities) are bracing themselves for more,” she said at a briefing for the US government counterterrorism and military officials, and others. Indian authorities have said 10 gunmen took part in the Mumbai attacks last week. But earlier reports cited that there were around 25 gunmen. Authorities captured one, who was interrogated, and killed nine. Indian and US officials blame the attacks on Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT). A US counterterrorism official said, “Is there a possibility that some LeT terrorists are still out there? Yes, but we have to wait and see because all the information is not in yet.” David Kilcullen, who has served as a senior counterterrorism adviser to US General David Petraeus and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, said he agreed that were probably more attackers, who equipped themselves with fake identification and wore Western clothes with clean-shaven faces, indicating they probably did not view the attack as a suicide operation. “The fact that they lost nine out of 10 identified attackers killed doesn’t necessarily indicate that it was intended to have all those people dying,” he said. “The Indians said there were 10 attackers, based on the fact that they captured one and killed nine - you have to assume there are more out there,” he said. He noted, however, that there was no short-term follow-up attack on a target such as a hospital treating victims. The fighters had high-level professional training, Kilcullen said. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1211757
[Goanet] 5 terrorists involved in Mumbai attacks may be at large:(NYTimes)
NEW YORK: Five terrorists involved in the Mumbai terror attacks may be still at large, the New York Times reported on Friday, citing evidence found on the trawler on which they travelled from Karachi to India's financial hub. The newspaper report counters the Mumbai Police which claimed that there were only ten terrorists in the vessel out of which nine were killed and one was arrested. "Based on evidence found on the trawler, it was possible that five other men were involved in the plot and were still at large," the Times said. The report also said that Zaki-ur-Rehman Lakhvi, the Lashkar-e-Taiba 'commander', was in Karachi for the last three months to help organise the terrorist attack in Mumbai. The Mumbai attackers also kept in contact with their handlers in Pakistan with cellphones as they rounded up guests at the two hotels -- Taj and Oberoi, it said quoting a Pakistani official in contact with the terror outfit. The attackers left a trail of evidence in a satellite phone they left behind on the fishing trawler they hijacked near Karachi at the start of their 500-mile journey to Mumbai, the report said. The phone contained the telephone numbers of Yusuf Muzammil, a LeT militant considered to be mastermind of the Mumbai attack, Rehman and a number of other Lashkar militants, the Times said, citing a report on the Mumbai siege prepared by M J Gohel and Sajjan M Gohel, two security analysts who direct the Asia-Pacific Foundation in London. The numbers dialed on the phone found on the trawler used to call Muzammil matched the numbers on the cell phones recovered from the Taj and Oberoi hotels, the report said. In one of the hotels, a gunman asked several Indian guests what caste they belonged to and what state they came from, the Times quoted an official who interviewed the guests as saying. Once the attacker found out these details, he then called someone believed to be Muzammil, who was also identified by the surviving gunman and who was in Lahore, according to phone records recovered by investigators. The surviving guests said the attacker told the person on the other end of the phone the guests' details and asked whether they should be killed or not. At one point, a guest said one of the calls seemed to be a conference call with two people on the other end. Once the calls were finished, the paper said, the attacker moved the small group of guests, who did not know what their fate would be, into a room. When the attackers became distracted by tear gas fired by the police, the hostages managed to escape. In another instance, the Times said, the gunmen forced a Singaporean hostage at the Oberoi hotel, Lo Hwei Yen, to call her husband in Singapore. She told him that the hostages were demanding that Singaporean officials tell India not to try a rescue operation. The next day, Lo was killed, the foundation's report said. Investigators found that after the gunmen killed her, they used the phone she had called her husband with, it said. "The worrying scenario is that Muzammil may have ordered her execution along with two other hostages that were found murdered in the same room," the report was quoted as saying. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1211671
[Goanet] US warned India 'twice' about sea attack
WASHINGTON: United States intelligence agencies had warned India "twice" about a potential maritime attack on Mumbai at least a month before audacious terror strikes that has left about 200 people dead and scores injured, media reports said. "The United States warned the Indian government about a potential maritime attack against Mumbai at least a month before last week's massacre in the country's financial capital," the CNN quoted a US counter-terrorism official as saying. The American network quoted the official as saying that the warning was issued not once but "twice". A second government source told ABCnews.com that specific locations, including the Taj Hotel, were listed in the US warning. "US intelligence indicated that a group might enter the country by water and launch an attack on Mumbai, said the official, who refused to be identified due to the ongoing investigation into the attacks and the sensitivity of the information," the CNN added. "Indian security forces have confirmed to CNN that not only did US officials warn them of a water-borne attack in Mumbai -- they were told twice. The area entered a higher state of alert for a week, including tightened security measures at hotels, but those efforts were eventually reduced, Indian officials said," the network, which repeatedly broadcast the story last evening, maintained. On November 18, Indian intelligence also intercepted a satellite phone call to a number in Pakistan known to be used by a leader of the terror group Lashkar-e-Taiba, believed to be responsible for the weekend attack, Indian intelligence officials were quoted as saying by ABCnews.com. The Indian intercept also revealed a possible sea-borne attack, it said, citing officials. Since last Friday, US intelligence agencies have been tracking the phones and SIM cards recovered by Indian authorities from the terrorists involved in Mumbai attacks leading to a "treasure trove" of leads in Pakistan and several possible connections to the US, officials told the TV network. Officials said one of the cell phone SIM cards may have been purchased in the US but would not provide any more details because of the ongoing nature of the investigation, ABCNews said. The phones also include the same "Thuraya Satellite" phone intercepted in November by Indian intelligence agencies, the report said. The United States National Security Agency, the report said, has the technical means to retrieve all calls made from atellite and cell phones in south Asia region. "Once we have the number we will be able to know everyone who was called and where the calls were made from," the former intelligence office told the network. A US counter-terrorism official was quoted as saying all leads continue to point at Lashkar-e-Taiba, a Pakistan-based terrorist group with strong ties to al-Qaeda. The group has taken credit for a number of previous terror attacks, including the Mumbai commuter rail system and the Indian Parliament building. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1210860&pageid=2
[Goanet] The exact role and definition of NRIs
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com Samir Kelekar said, Btw, talking about sacrificies, one NRI talks about hard times --- hardtimes being mortgage rate has gone up. For Goans, hard times is just trying to get a square meal.That is the difference.samir Reply: Your PhD amusus me at no ends. Your freedom fighters shot people who did not give them money and now want handouts, having not done a days work. Nehru was a Freedom fighter - did he live on handouts? There were hard times in Goa when the Indians stopped money coming into Goa from India - EACH AND EVERY LETTER WAS OPENED AND MONEY IN IT CONFISCATED. Are you saying that during Indian rule there is still hard times getting a square meal? Then we were better off during the Portuguese. NRIs have every right to say that the mortgage and a pint of beer has gone up, just like RKN said Pinto is a amall cock. WHERE DOES A SQUARE MEAL COME INTO IT? If Indians cannot have a square meal - and all the NRGs come back to Goa - Hurray square meals will become round meals. Don't they teach logic in PhD? JEALOUSY WILL GET YOU NOWHERE. ED.
[Goanet] The Exact Role and Definition of NRI's in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com Gabriel de Figueiredo said: Correct me if I'm wrong. I understand that a few years ago, when India was facing bankrupcy/shortage of foreign currency, it was the NRIs who propped up the country's finances by sending money back home. Reply: Well?! you are absolutely wrong and Selma is barking up the wrong tree. THE SELF CERTIFIED PhD SKs WHO ARE ON GOANET and harping against the NRGs, sure understand what you and selma are saying, but 1. The burning jeaslousy inside them of the NRGs and 2. To pretend that they are PhD is just a pretext to vent their frustration that they are better educated than you (the NRG) and 3. They feel sorry for themselves for being left with the Ghantis in Goa. - Superiority complex? You and I can't do anyting with that, they have to deal with that syndrome themselves, (if they are the Real Mcoy PhD) - they should know that. ED.
Re: [Goanet] Freedom fighter week
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com Reply to Message: 11 Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 05:53:08 -0800 (PST) From: Samir Kelekar who said: "Nachna na jane, aangan tedha". For a person with a warped vision, the world looks warped. Dont blame it on freedom fighters; you who ran away from your responsibilities as a citizen are responsible for the above. -- Hi, Just because I have a Christian name and am an NRG (tough if you are jealous of my NRG status). You seem to have a notion that, unless I come to Goa, take my trousers down and pi** and Sh** on the streets of Panjim and the Beaches I'm not one of your peers. Alternatively been a freedom fighter. -- Let me tell you a 'factual' traumatising experience I had to deal with (still do) in Goa with Freedom Fighters of Goa, when I was young. A Goan gentleman who worked in the State Bank of India in Mumbai (Bombay), Retired and was living in Goa on his Indian State pension. Freedom fighters came to his door and demanded money from him for their cause. They said to him you have to support us because you are eating Indian money, we need some of it (a lot actually). He said I do not have that kind of money I live on small pension. They told him they didn't care. HE DID NOT KNOW WHAT WAS COMING TO HIM. Next NIGHT they came for their money - he had none. THEY SHOT HIM. Goa freedom fighters? - lots of respect for human kind? - now want my tax money to eat sitting at home? ED.
[Goanet] The Exact Role and Definition of NRI's in Goa
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Renew your wedding vows in Goa, or gift a Ceremony Package to a close couple Multiple options to make your day extra special! http://www.renewalsetc.com Hi, Its OK to explain the best you can, but will the self certified PhD people on Goanet understand what you are saying? They think talking about freedom fighters who have not paid a single penny in Indian Taxes and now waiting for handout from the taxpayers is a great deed. ED. Carvalho said: If there is one thing I hate it is the perpetual questioning of NRI contributions to Goa. Goans in Goa think they have acquired martyr status for staying on in Goa, and the oft repeated question is, "what have you NRIs who ran away to foreign countries done?" As the daughter of a life-long NRI, let me explain exactly what NRIs have done. First of all the definition of NRI is Non-Resident Indian, he is therefore always an Indian, but resides elsewhere for purposes of work. It does not include those who have taken citizenship of other countries although now it generically encompasses them. Traditionally the bulk of NRIs were those who trudged their way to the hot, Arabian Gulf and faithfully remitted money every month so as to keep the family back home alive. My father and mother despite being offered off-shore interest rates in enticing destinations, remitted their money for 30 years. When it was time to come home on holiday, my mother would start buying gifts for everyone in the village, one month in advance. My uncles, who also spent their lives in the Gulf, made sure half the boys in the village got jobs in the Gulf, they loaned money for operations, for dowries, for building roofs and to others in need. More often than not, they never got this money back. In time, what were basically mud-huts in the village became beautiful bungalows and many who might have dropped out at 10th standard continued on to complete their graduation. But leave aside the Gulf-workers, those that went to Africa, remited money to their families back home. Those that live in the UK and US, still remit money to those in their family that require it. Some of our US and UK Goans have gone about raising money for hostipals, put roofs over people's heads, helped their village Church with extensions, funded scholarships, mentored emerging talent, the list is endless. Let me also state categorically, that it is the influx of foreign remittances that keeps Goa's economy bouyed. Money earned by the sweat of their brow, not by demeaning themselves or prostituting themselves in shady deals and get-rick-quick schemes which are all too common in Goa. So if those Goans in Goa who demean NRIs had any integrity, they would duly acknowledge the contribution of this community. But integrity is in short supply all around in Goa and not just with politicians. selma
[Goanet] Goa Medical college hospital for medical examination,
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1205697 PANAJI: The legal counsel of the German mother, who accused Goa Education minister Atanasio Monserratte's son Rohit of raping her minor daughter, has alleged that both the mother and the girl were verbally abused by one of the doctors during the medical examination, which confirmed rape. "When the mother and girl appeared at Goa Medical college and hospital for medical examination, Dr Silvano Sapeco, one of the doctors, verbally abused them," Aires Rodrigues, the German mother's lawyer, said. "The mother and girl was made to sit in dark corridors of Goa medical college for almost 40 minutes before the doctor arrived. And when the mother questioned the delay, she was asked to "shut up"," he said. After initial reluctance, the girl had agreed for the medical tests on November 2, confirming sexual intercourse. Besides, while escorting the girl for medical examination, the police went in uniform to her house which is clear violation of Goa Children's Act, the lawyer added. Rodrigues, who himself faced a physical assault during the investigations on October 13, said that the mother was frustrated with the police probe and hence she decided to withdraw her complaint. The mother was wary of continuing with her fight for justice as police had already initiated an inquiry through the foreigners registration office on her, he said. Calangute police in their letter to the mother on October 23 had asked to give all details about her movements in India, property owned and source of income, he added.
[Goanet] Freedom fighter week
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Who ever has said what below? - any way. The mentality of these people is warped. Sacrifices the freedom fighter did was to end up with - wait for a minute. THE GHANTIS P***ING AND SH**ING ALL OVER THE STREETS OF PANJIM. and, THE OTHER GHANTIS DESTROYING THE BEAUTY OF GOA WITH CONCRETE, because of which (the beauty) they came here in the first place. SO STOP PICKING ON THE NRG's and get on with your work. Or?! are you picking on the NRGs because you have nothing better to do or JUST JEALOUS. ED. --- Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Dr Samir Kelekar (Phd) is knocking at the wrong door. Shri Teotonio is a cidadao Portugues. Is Sam calling Teotonio?o escravo dos Portugueses? BC Thanks Teotonio-bab, for letting us know about Naguesh Karmali. The sad state of today is that our youngsters do not know the glorious sacrifices that Goans did to get us freedom. Instead, people of slavish mentality who have betrayed Goa and India, taken citizenships of other countries, are trying to do a revision of history.
[Goanet] Muddle
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 11/10/08, Bernado Colaco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Fortunately my son/daughter are not married to bharats. If they were to be married (very weak hypothesis) BC would say 'atam ughi raun bharati chem guhh kauhia'. --- Reply: If they are not Bharats, who are they married to? Jews from Transilvania (like micheal Howard) or Jews from Russia (like Maxwell) or Lawson, or keith Joseph or Mggie's Husband? Are they Polish Jews/Catholics or Russian Jews? BECAUSE. A recent DNA survey done in UK found that no one, NO ONE was a pure English, Englishness does not exist, never did. They say their patron saint is St George, in fact St George the dragon slayer is Palestenian by birth. Secondly the English Protestants do not believe in saints only the Irish Catholics do, so why St George suddenly become England's Patron? Now remember, your grandchildren are mulattoes Jai Bharat. ED.
[Goanet] The OBAMA effect
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * ANKA SERVICES For all your Goa-based media needs - Newspapers and Electronic Media Newspaper Adverts, Press Releases, Press Conferences www.ankaservices.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mario responds: Miguel, In the US we consider "black is beautiful", and it is white people who spend an awful amount of time and money becoming darker. Pretty amazing. -- Reply, Is that why M Jackson and his sister have gone a funny color (not colour), and what about Opra and Diana Ross? ED.
[Goanet] The OBAMA effect
The OBAMA effect goasuraj Sun Nov 9 00:22:41 PST 2008 -- Excellent, well said. ED.
[Goanet] God and you
Albert Desouza Said: Albert writes:- When God created the world there was a bond of love between humanity and God. Reply: 6000years ago? He created the world to make man a happy living being. Reply: with an apple tree in the middle, and a snake on it! He loved man but man got confused with the environment due to the sin of Adam that he strayed away from God. Reply: God gave man a confused brain? hallelujah God condemed the sin of man but not man. Reply: Did god create sin as well? didn't know that! He brought the people out from bondage and was with them in the wilderness. Reply:Bondage? I thought they were living in an airconditioned (without electricity, which came to us in the 1700s - not with Adam) room in Eden with an apple tree and a pet snake on it. Albert - Now, I'm really confused! You are deliberately doing this to confuse me aren't you? I think I'll go back to believing in Aphrodite/Lakshmi (Venus) as my my Goddess, at least she is keeping the Earth in its orbit. Innit? ED.
[Goanet] Can you listen as well as you read?
Hi All, See if you are a victim: A top judge has warned that today's young, online generation may have trouble acting as jurors because they can't listen for long stretches. But is it easier to pick up information from a written passage or a spoken version? Try this unscientific test. The influence of the internet is threatening one of the cornerstones of British justice - the jury trial, according to the most senior judge in England and Wales. Lord Judge of Draycote, the Lord Chief Justice, says when it comes to information gathering, the net promotes reading at the expense of listening. We've decided to put his theory to the test by inviting readers to try our reading v listening test. At the heart of it is a short piece of testimony by the infamous murderer Dr Crippen from his trial in 1910. Click on the audio console below to hear it being read Then answer five questions about what you've just heard Then read the same passage in text and answer five different questions The whole thing should take no more than 10 minutes. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7715868.stm
[Goanet] OBAMA IN THE WHITE HOUSE
"floriano" said: The world of American have opted for a change, putting practically a novice ( a kid so to speak), a black American in the most powerful position in the world for the first time in its 'independent' history. -- Reply: This is an ageist and racist remark. He is not a kid - even so to speak. He has collected a record donation EVER. He has come through all kinds of slur and innuendoes thrown at him. He was the Youngest and the first black Students leader at collegeto the satisfaction of his peers. To make snide remarks on Goanet in unwarranted. ED.
[Goanet] OBAMA IN THE WHITE HOUSE.
floriano said: ( a kid so to speak), a black American in the most powerful position in the world for the first time in its 'independent' history. Reply: One cannot get more racist than that! He is half white, why call him black? Just because the whites call him so? Are you a COCONUT? (brown outside white inside?) Tony Blair was a kid. Turned out to be the best PM since Harold Wilson. Its the young that lead the way forward, the old look backwards. Obama was the Youngest and the first Black President of the Students in College. He was admired and respected for his decision making courage and administration. He fought the toughest election to date with snipe and terrorist innuendos. He had the biggest pot of money ever collected for any campaign. The list goes on and on. And, all someone has to say is that he is a black kid. Wash your brains, son. ED.
[Goanet] Obama's leap of faith fired by Gandhi
WASHINGTON: Here are the highlights of US president elect Barack Obama's life and career: Born: Aug 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. Parents: Father Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., a Luo from Nyang'oma Kogelo, Nyanza Province, Kenya. Mother Ann Dunham, a white American from Wichita, Kansas. Education: BA in international relations, 1983, Columbia University JD from Harvard Law School; Elected first black president of the Law Review in February 1990. Family: Married Michelle Robinson, another Harvard Law School graduate, Oct 18, 1992. They have two young daughters, Malia and Sasha. http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1203635 Obama, 47, who has been able to attract crowds of 100,000 people or more to his rallies and generate a buzz seldom seen in US politics with his message of change, is an ardent admirer of Mahatma Gandhi, the pioneer of Satyagraha - resistance to tyranny through mass civil disobedience. "In my life, I have always looked to Mahatma Gandhi as an inspiration, because he embodied the kind of transformational change that can be made when ordinary people come together to do extraordinary things," he wrote in an article. "That is why his portrait hangs in my Senate office; to remind me that real results will not just come from Washington, they will come from the people." http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1203637
[Goanet] Why Obama will a good President of USA
Hi All, Those who think want to feel what it is to be in USA now read what the BBC correspondents has to say: Matthew Price. 3 Nov 08, 04:37 AM GMT What may not be obvious to some people, especially many of those reading this from outside the borders of the US, is how strongly many here feel about the possibility of an Obama presidency. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/matthewprice/2008/11/too_european.html -- Gavin Hewitt 3 Nov 08, 04:45 GMT They were there not to be persuaded or convinced. They were there to celebrate their man. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/gavinhewitt/ ED.
[Goanet] A suggestion
Hi All, This came in my mail, thought you might want to read it? CHRISTMAS - 2009 I am Gerald Castelino, a Catholic from Mysore. In view of the recent attacks on the Catholics, I have some suggestions to make. Let us not act swiftly by protests for the atrocities, let us show we are Christians. I would like to narrate a small incident which took place during the atrocities which took place in Mangalore. I am an Advocate by profession, I was sitting beside a middle aged Hindu Advocate who asked me why are the Christians not protesting in Mysore (there was a procession arranged but had to be cancelled because the Police did not give permission - its another matter again) ? I just asked him one question, is it right what is done to Christians in Orissa and Karnataka ? He condemned the brutalities and felt very sad about the whole episode. I just told him, this is what we want, let the right thinking people know what is done is right or wrong. I further told him, Christ was prosecuted for having committed no crime, now Christians are prosecuted for having committed no crime. He was stunned ! He appreciated the services of Christians to India. Our silence and deeds should be greater protests than the processions! Further all of us have seen the way the Crucifix being broken, either leg or hand of Christ is broken, all these churches must keep them in one place to remind the atrocities we may have to face. Lastly, why are we celebrating Christmas this season ? Let there be no external celebration. When our brethren are killed and prosecuted, we celebrate it in grand manner ? Is it justifiedIf we keep our celebrations to Mass and family affair two messages would be clear... (1) We show our solidarity and our pain to the nation in turn the world (2) Stop all external celebrations - save money and send to the victims. - this affects lots - thousands who make business, think of cakes, sweets, decorations and parties out of Christmas are not Christians - it will affect them secondly we save money to help the ones who are affected It would be nice to do so all over India if not at least in Orissa and Karnataka. Hope rightful persons would think in these terms and send a strong peaceful message to the world. Regards Gerald Castelino
[Goanet] Obama will be good as President of USA
Hi All, For a person who cannot spell Afghanistan (even now) and did not know if it existed. THIS IS WHAT MARIO HAD TO SAY: 1.Hence, regardless of what you think of the intelligence of a man with a Bachelors Degree from Yale and an MBA from Harvard - I hope you have heard of these universities - who was elected and re-elected Governor od the second largest state in the US, and then President of the USA, winning both re-elections with higher margins than the original elections, the fact is that he does not have the power to create the economic havoc you allege on his own, by buying and selling Euros, without the approval of the US Congress. -- 2. Mario said: How do you know that "Obama will do good work as President of USA"? In your studies Have you seen anything in his background or experience that made you believe that? Now, here we see you suggesting that Americans elect Mr. Obama because he is black. Thank goodness you don't have a vote in this election because we Americans are expected to vote based on our opinion of a candidate's overall qualifications, which do not include his skin color:-)) -- Reply: for your :-)) I have :-( That is how I feel about you and your :-)) makes it worse. The Philosopher Khalil Gibran was right. "The Old look backwards the young look forward. The old can join the young to move forward, but the young cannot and should not join the old - that means moving backwards." -- McCain always talks about his exploits and the war, Obama looks forward. McCain has a negative attack on Obama, Kinnock of UK did this to Maggie,- he lost. Obama wrote in his school essay when he was 8 yrs old - I will be president of usa. In all his activities in Chicago and in the Senate he has done a good job, Why not now? ED.
[Goanet] Obama will do good work as President of USA
Hi All, Opinion poll is one thing, turnout is something else. The majority of the educated American want Obama to win. The illiterate call him Arab Hussain. Into which catagory does USA fit into? ED. - "Dr. U. G. Barad"said: Dear Goanet Members, I really don't know whether this message would be bounced by Goa net Admin for I was sharp on pointing finger to Goanet rules. However, I realized that many messages regarding USA has been transmitted to members. Therefore I though I should also write this message. I was really trying to find out how consumable prices including petrol rose so high. My study reveals that It's Bush's stupidity that has created havoc all over the world . During his last 6 years, he bought all Euros and now he is releasing the Euros only to see that his party candidate becomes next President of USA. I Hope and pray, Obama wins the race, all though Blacks have never become president of USA. Just pray and hope this first black becomes president of USA. Best regards,Dr. U. G. Barad
