Re: [Goanet] CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city
Hi JKF, It looks like day by day you are getting tempremental. Is the bacalhau not doing you good in Lisboa? With reference to British interests, the rail link was a project and not in the lines of mining explotation. It is true that iron ore etc was unearthed in the early 20th century, but were you expecting that Goans lived on love and fresh air? Besides, I support Goa blindly (you are drawing wrong conclusions about my Portucalia), the actions of 61 was a great catastrophy for Goans. It is time that our new rulers reflect and acknowledge the failures, and stop the exploitation of Goa now. BC Dear BC, You do not need to support the Portuguese regime blindly to make the protests of Indian action that you do. Even the Portuguese are not interested in Goa anymore. The Goans however, continue to be. Perhaps you would like to make that point, regards, Jason _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city
Dear BC, I have said this before and will say this again. While I can understand your position, while canvassing it, please dont be bizarre! There is nothing that is more detrimental to a position that the kind of untenable positions that you suggest. British Corporate interests were present in Goa even before 1961. The rail link to Goa was a result of British corporate interests. Similarly, the capitalist exploitation of the Goan mines also began under the Portuguese regime. You do not need to support the Portuguese regime blindly to make the protests of Indian action that you do. Even the Portuguese are not interested in Goa anymore. The Goans however, continue to be. Perhaps you would like to make that point, regards, Jason 2010/11/2 Bernado Colaco British corporate came to Goa under the signature of the current rule imposed upon Goans since 1961. You call it liberation? BC _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city
British corporate came to Goa under the signature of the current rule imposed upon Goans since 1961. You call it liberation? BC I wonder what right do British Corporate Vedanta has got to meddle in the history of Goa; through Sesa Goa and Dempos it is pushing Goa's mountains into irreversible positions. Vedanta Quite Goa now! Warmly Seby _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city
I wonder what right do British Corporate Vedanta has got to meddle in the history of Goa; through Sesa Goa and Dempos it is pushing Goa's mountains into irreversible positions. Vedanta Quite Goa now! Warmly Seby 2010/10/30 Bernado Colaco Claude Alvares had no right to meddle in the history of Goa. Goa Foundation is not only Alvares. I know this foundation since the late seventies. BC _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city
Sister cities is concept herein cooperative agreements are signed between towns, cities and even counties in geographically and politically distinct areas to promote cultural and commercial ties. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sister_cities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_twin_towns_and_sister_cities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_twin_towns_and_sister_cities_in_India I wonder why we should get sucked into the past and stop looking in to the future. BTW, there are hundreds of youth in Indian that get trashing at schools or colleges. Rich and Famous do inhumane things to fellow Indian. 35 percent of Indians do not have access to food and shelter in democratic free India. So why pick on other nations when we ourselves cannot respect and take care of the our own people in our own country? Indian settle elsewhere are Indian Citizen or the Citizen of the adopted country? Let us work to put house in order first. Warm regards, Agnelo From: Carmen Miranda Hello PATRICIOS! I have been avoiding getting into this dicussion, but today I can't resist Dear Goenkar brothers - when it comes to getting help, I don't think we are in position to refuse help from anyone, including from Portugal. If nothing else, when it comes to architecture design, the influence of Portugal in Goan architecture was fantastic. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city
Claude Alvares had no right to meddle in the history of Goa. Goa Foundation is not only Alvares. I know this foundation since the late seventies. BC Subject: Re: CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city Hello PATRICIOS! I have been avoiding getting into this dicussion, but today I can't resist Dear Goenkar brothers - when it comes to getting help, I don't think we are in position to refuse help from anyone, including from Portugal. If nothing else, when it comes to architecture design, the influence of Portugal in Goan architecture was fantastic. That influence is what gives Goa the different flavour and fabulous buildings and churches that makes Goa such a special and different place from other parts of India. So I can't see any problem or a patriotism issue if Portugal wants to and can help with the development and improvement of Panjim! _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city
Hello PATRICIOS! I have been avoiding getting into this dicussion, but today I can't resist Dear Goenkar brothers - when it comes to getting help, I don't think we are in position to refuse help from anyone, including from Portugal. If nothing else, when it comes to architecture design, the influence of Portugal in Goan architecture was fantastic. That influence is what gives Goa the different flavour and fabulous buildings and churches that makes Goa such a special and different place from other parts of India. So I can't see any problem or a patriotism issue if Portugal wants to and can help with the development and improvement of Panjim! In today's global village where there is so much violence, war and lack of understanding and cooperation among human beings, we should encourage cooperation between nations, even though they had been the colonial masters of the past. The past is history! After all the Bristish and the French still do a lot of work and cooperation in their past colonies, and I don't see what is the big issue about that! As for Claude Alvares and Goa Foundation not having done much for the ravages caused by mining, that is not true and remotely correct. If Goa Foundation was not continually fighting the anti-mining cause and other crimes against the environment in Goa, all we would have by now is a great big hole on the ground , as the miners would probably be mining bang in the middle of Jardim Garcia da Horta if they were allowed to. I suggest we become more gracious towards each other and anybody that wants to help Goa, as we are not in position to refuse help in the middle of a real WAR against the disastrous government controlled by mine owners and builders, clue less and criminal politicians and a population that is just unwilling to rise and fight back. Mog assundi , indeed, pun mog assundi to the whole humanity of good will ! I don't believe that only goans can help Goa, as Claude Alvares for example is not a Goan but a Manglorian, and he is one of the persons who has done a tremendous amount for Goa! Amen! Carmen _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] CCP may get Portugal's help to develop Panjim city
Oscar, Well said...however it is a catch 22 Until the drains are covered, the garbage is securely cleared and re-cycled and the punitive pungent exhaust fumes that accompanies thousands of honking enthusiasts on 2, 4, and 8 wheelers or more, we will not be able to smell the roses even if we try in the literal sense!! hahaha --- On Thu, 28/10/10, Oscar Lobo Hi Guys. I second what BC says: “It is only Goans that can save Goa by networking and joining together not outsiders like CA” Time to get out of our “sussegado” comfort zone and get into “Manter-se acordado” Utt Goaenkara, temp nah needonk! – It is time to smell the roses if we want to smell them. Mog sodanch assum. _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/