[Goanet] GOA AND GOANS TAKEN FOR A RIDE ON MHADEI
That Goa and Goans have been fooled on the very crucial Mhadei issue comes as no surprise. The expected politrik has dawned. In this political chicanery, for the BJP its party’s interests in Karnataka has overridden Goa’s welfare. It is absolutely shameful to witness the manner in which the Central Government has in an utterly devious manner betrayed the people of Goa. Let our unyielding resolve be to make sure that the battle for our Mhadei is a do or die. We need to ensure that every precious drop is saved for the well being of Goans. Posterity will never forgive us if we don’t combat this so vital Mhadei battle and allow our lifeline to dry up with our ecology destroyed. Our Mhadei is the one very critical issue that should be of greatest concern to every Goan. Our state is on its way to being parched and will be reduced to a desert on account of the government attempting to take us for a ride. The buck now stops at the door of Goa’s Chief Minister Pramod Sawant who has miserably failed on all fronts including Mhadei. He had publicly declared that he would join the public agitation if the Central government went back on its word. Mr. CM, it's now time to Walk your Talk. Your ‘Bhivpachi Garaz Na’ will fool us no longer. Adv. Aires Rodrigues C/G-2, Shopping Complex Ribandar Retreat Ribandar – Goa – 403006 Mobile No: 9822684372 Office Tel No: (0832) 2444012 Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com You can also reach me on Facebook.com/ AiresRodrigues Twitter@rodrigues_aires www.airesrodrigues.in airesrodrigues1@instagram
[Goanet] GOA AND GOANS TAKEN FOR A RIDE ON MHADEI
That Goa and Goans have been fooled on the very crucial Mhadei issue comes as no surprise. The expected politrik has dawned. In this political chicanery, for the BJP its party’s interests in Karnataka has overridden Goa’s welfare. It is absolutely shameful at the manner in which Union Environment Minister Prakash Javadekar has in an utterly devious manner crookedly circumvented the people of Goa. Let our unyielding resolve be to make sure that the battle for our Mhadei is a do or die. We need to ensure that every precious drop is saved for the well being of Goans. Posterity will never forgive us if we don’t combat this so vital Mhadei battle and allow our lifeline to dry up and our ecology destroyed. The buck stops at the door of Goa’s ‘accidental’ Chief Minister Pramod Sawant who has miserably failed on all fronts including Mhadei. He had publicly declared that he would join the public agitation if the Central government went back on its word. Mr. CM, its now time to Walk your Talk. Aires Rodrigues Advocate High Court C/G-2, Shopping Complex Ribandar Retreat, Ribandar – Goa – 403006 Mobile No: 9822684372 Office Tel No: (0832) 2444012 Email: airesrodrigu...@gmail.com Or airesrodrig...@yahoo.com You can also reach me on Facebook.com/ AiresRodrigues Twitter@rodrigues_aires www.airesrodrigues.com
[Goanet] Goa and Goans
Goans started migrating to Bombay and other parts of India from 1800s, to East Africa in the late 1800s, to ships roaming the seven seas , say, from 1900s and to to the Gulf Region in the 1970s. And in the 21st century they are still inclined to settle down in Western Europe, U.S.A., Canada and Australia. Now , if the way of life until 1961 and thereafter was truly beautiful and sophisticated in our glorious Goa , how come they insist of leaving their motherland to the whims of migrants from India ?
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must not forget that Goa is part of a vast India where there are multiple castes,creeds, languages and behavior with multiple traditions that need change and modernization etc. GOA is part of vast India? How come? Because Nehru took the U-Turn after having his own embassy in Goa and a full-fledged ambassador for some time prior to 1961? That means according Eric, the African continent like the Indian sub-continent is a vast one country AFRICA? Cheers floriano - Original Message - From: "John Eric Gomes" To: Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 3:35 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goa and Goans There are good and bad points, positive and negative opinions everywhere. That is only natural and I would request goans to not get personal but stick to issues which must be tackled. Jumping to conclusions and alleging motives are counter productive. Fact is many goans have left Goa in disgust and are doing extremely well abroad. Our attitude to those who come to Goa to see their parents/other matters should be cordial and helpful, whilst those doing well abroad must not forget that Goa is part of a vast India where there are multiple castes,creeds, languages and behavior with multiple traditions that need change and modernization etc. Goans must remain the warm hearted and talented people they are and do all they can to help each other and Goa as best they can.
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Well stated JEG best jc On 29 November 2013 17:05, John Eric Gomes wrote: > There are good and bad points, positive and negative opinions everywhere. > That is only natural and I would request goans to not get personal but > stick to issues which must be tackled. Jumping to conclusions and alleging > motives are counter productive. Fact is many goans have left Goa in disgust > and are doing extremely well abroad. Our attitude to those who come to Goa > to see their parents/other matters should be cordial and helpful, whilst > those doing well abroad must not forget that Goa is part of a vast India > where there are multiple castes,creeds, languages and behavior with > multiple traditions that need change and modernization etc. Goans must > remain the warm hearted and talented people they are and do all they can to > help each other and Goa as best they can. >
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Well said. On 29 November 2013 22:05, John Eric Gomes wrote: > There are good and bad points, positive and negative opinions everywhere. > That is only natural and I would request goans to not get personal but > stick to issues which must be tackled. Jumping to conclusions and alleging > motives are counter productive. Fact is many goans have left Goa in disgust > and are doing extremely well abroad. Our attitude to those who come to Goa > to see their parents/other matters should be cordial and helpful, whilst > those doing well abroad must not forget that Goa is part of a vast India > where there are multiple castes,creeds, languages and behavior with > multiple traditions that need change and modernization etc. Goans must > remain the warm hearted and talented people they are and do all they can to > help each other and Goa as best they can. > -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Goa and Goans
There are good and bad points, positive and negative opinions everywhere. That is only natural and I would request goans to not get personal but stick to issues which must be tackled. Jumping to conclusions and alleging motives are counter productive. Fact is many goans have left Goa in disgust and are doing extremely well abroad. Our attitude to those who come to Goa to see their parents/other matters should be cordial and helpful, whilst those doing well abroad must not forget that Goa is part of a vast India where there are multiple castes,creeds, languages and behavior with multiple traditions that need change and modernization etc. Goans must remain the warm hearted and talented people they are and do all they can to help each other and Goa as best they can.
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On 29 November 2013 10:31, Ana Maria Fernandes wrote: (1) Dear Sir, (2) Please do not tell me that Goans feel dignified working as bartender. They are forced to do this. They would not like to work in Goa. (3) Imagine a doctor going abroad and struggling, or top executive working for lakhs of rupees goes abroad and struggles (4)Very few foreigners would like to be friends or talk to goans abroad. very few I can count at the tip of my fingers. Dear Madam Ana Maria, re# 2: I personally find any work done honestly, as a honorable. You might wish to know that I am happy to be a chef on alternate weekends. I find it very honorable to do that. Do you have a problem with that? re# 3: Sure, I can imagine a Goan doctor going abroad and working very very hard. I hope doctors in Goa are doing the same. re# 4: I cannot comment on your experience. I can only relate to you my personal experience. Almost all my close friends and clients are 'foreigners'. best jc
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The unique Anna Manifesto has now covered chapters over a decade of soulful reporting. It is Abrahamic of old and latter day Paul, Stalinist and Gandhian, Keynes and kangaroo. I cannot place a finger on the nature of the pathology, but that is exactly what it reflects. I do not want to imagine what dinner table conversation at her home echoes. eric. On Thursday, November 28, 2013 3:00 PM, "J. Colaco < jc>" wrote: From: Ana Maria Fernandes (1) We who are still left in Goa whenever we visit foreign countries do not grumble that our relatives over there are bartenders, waiters, plumbers even if they possess a degree or post graduation etc etc. (2) But when you come here please do not boast about your land which is actually not yours. (3) The picture shown by our Goans migrated abroad is not true picture (4) They cannot afford luxury like we can afford over here. (5) Europeans rarely will mix with Goans and Indians over there though they will hug and kiss you here in Goa. (6) Goans are starving in foreign countries. Dear Ana Maria, I have selected the above 6 sentences from your post and arranged them for ease of response. re #1: It is good to applaud those who work, whatever their work and wherever they work, as long as they work hard and honestly. re #2: I agree with you. Boasting is an imprudent waste of time and energy. re #3: In many a case, you are right. re #4: Those who are at home, have the luxury of being home. re #5: I disagree with you. re #6: While there are some starving people all over the world, I disagree. ps: It is worth asking the following questions: (a) Why are so many Goans leaving Goa to struggle in distant lands? (b) Would their elderly parents have managed to survive if their children had not migrated and struggled abroad? jc
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Ana Maria Fernandes wrote: >(5) Europeans rarely will mix with Goans and Indians over there >though they will hug and kiss you here in Goa. >(6) Goans are starving in foreign countries. jc replied: >>re #5: I disagree with you. >>re #6: While there are some starving people all over the world, >> I disagree. Doc, My wife tells me that while she was a child growing up in Texas, her mom would insist she finish every morsel on the plate because, "There were people starving in Africa." My wife tells her friends now that she never ever dreamt she would eventually marry one of those starving people from Africa. I add that she does a great job of keeping this African Goan away from starvation. Mervyn
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From: Ana Maria Fernandes (1) We who are still left in Goa whenever we visit foreign countries do not grumble that our relatives over there are bartenders, waiters, plumbers even if they possess a degree or post graduation etc etc. (2) But when you come here please do not boast about your land which is actually not yours. (3) The picture shown by our Goans migrated abroad is not true picture (4) They cannot afford luxury like we can afford over here. (5) Europeans rarely will mix with Goans and Indians over there though they will hug and kiss you here in Goa. (6) Goans are starving in foreign countries. Dear Ana Maria, I have selected the above 6 sentences from your post and arranged them for ease of response. re #1: It is good to applaud those who work, whatever their work and wherever they work, as long as they work hard and honestly. re #2: I agree with you. Boasting is an imprudent waste of time and energy. re #3: In many a case, you are right. re #4: Those who are at home, have the luxury of being home. re #5: I disagree with you. re #6: While there are some starving people all over the world, I disagree. ps: It is worth asking the following questions: (a) Why are so many Goans leaving Goa to struggle in distant lands? (b) Would their elderly parents have managed to survive if their children had not migrated and struggled abroad? jc
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A woman of many dimensions no doubt. We first thought from her posts that she was dirt poor and struggling with the demands of a large family and limited income. For this, we empathized with her railings against the church for building monuments and edifices in Goa while the flock met the rigors of daily life. We then discover that she was well heeled enough to have made a trip to Europe. It is then revealed that once Goan African repatriates roamed about Goa villages in shirts, ties and hats. Wonder what our Ana Maria would want them to go about in? A kashti and curry stained banian (vest) perhaps, with a coconut shell to drink feni after a hard day in the Friday Mapuca bazaar. Of course no mention is made of the average slightly educated Goan gentleman during Portuguese times who wore exactly this Africander attire. More information coming in than the Tarun Tejpal episode. For example that Goans abroad lack food and bus money. Voila they suddenly have the funds to buy a cross continental airplane ticket so that they can get a full food plate to eat on a wedding invitation thus allowing Ana Maria to gloat on how much better off she is where a college graduate does not have to work as a plumber, waiter or bartentender. They have to go instead over the oceans where unknown to her a plumber earns in 3 months what a Goa NIO scientist earns in a year, purchashing power parity considered. Then the latent racism comes out full blown. How whites don't look at Goans nor mix around with them. In one fell sweep she has discarded all Goans and their children who have married into the white population. How they could betray the community by marrying out of caste is something that 450 years of genealogy will not permit her to consider. I can almost picture Ana Maria waiting in line for a kiss from an elder toothless British woman on the dole. Something her overseas Goan brothers (or sisters) would not get where they live. By now you will have noted that the Goan Gulfie or the shippie has been conspicuously absent from her overseas Goan and Goan gone abroad to work criticism. Perhaps she has more than one or two of these members among her fraternity. Perhaps they have funded her European trip or her repair of the compound wall or God forbid, written a cheque to the local church for a needed coat of whitewash. If one dares to go one step further, is she considering marrying one of her children to one of those Gulfies or shippies like those mothers of yore who rushed their nubile daughters to the nearest available Africander? I am assuming that at no time in the future will Ana Maria have enough money to want to send one of her children to study abroad since admissions to choice education in India is available to only the brightest and purely academically inclined, thus finding herself in the queue for a Portuguese passport the last of her family line to be eligible for it. But then of course she will be afraid that after a nice Masters graduation the child may find itself in some Swindon chicken packing factory. Ah the vicissitudes of life for overseas Goans. Roland. Toronto. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Ana Maria Fernandes Date: 28-11-2013 2:08 AM (GMT-05:00) To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Goa and goans Dear GoanettersGoans always feel that the grass grows greener on the other side of the fence. I remember in my childhood days people from africa would visit Goa and wear shirt and tie and a hat. They wanted everyone to see this atire and call them africanders. So much so that even the mothers of brides would first prefer an africander. And zooommm they all came back to Goa and some went to UK because Goa was dirty full of cowdung and no electricity to see their faces etc etc. The second case was those who migrated to Bombay. Come month of May and they would be seen on the streets with a hat on their head, short pants, etc etc and moving about in buses even in the late afternoon sweating and cursing Goa because the buses are crowed etc bla bla bla. We Goans in Goa have the habit of allowing others to talk evil of us . I am not surprised that for a dine and dance people rush to the table and fill their plates up to the brim because they in normal life cannot afford that much of food and here for dine and dance they can capture lot of food for a small price of money. We who are still left in Goa whenever we visit foreign countries do not grumble that our relatives over there are bartenders, waiters, plumbers even if they possesse a degree or post graduation etc etc. But when you come here please do not boast about your land which is actually not yours. Goans and Indians are not welcomed in foreign lands and Europeans rarely will mix with Goans and Indians over there though they will hug and kiss you here in Goa. The picture shown by our Goans migrated abroad is not true picture. Goan
[Goanet] Goa and goans
On Thu, 28 Nov 2013 Ana Maria Fernandes amferns_n...@hotmail.com concludes her message on above subject line saying: 'Do you know that when you go for a wedding in UK the groom and the bride will just give you one soft drink, or may be one peg of hot drink and one plate of snacks the rest you buy' My response (slightly away and not actually related to Ana Maria Fernandes's actual message): I think Francisco Sardinha either not visited UK or he is trying his luck for upcoming election by mesmerizing Goan that he has spent Rs. 85 lakhs from his own pocket! In fact, he should have thanked organizers for inviting him for inaugural function. This response is in context of below mentioned web link forwarded by Goanet member: http://www.firstpost.com/politics/goa-mp-tosses-bouquet-at-function-says-he- deserves-bigger-one-1252739.html
[Goanet] Goa and goans
Dear GoanettersGoans always feel that the grass grows greener on the other side of the fence. I remember in my childhood days people from africa would visit Goa and wear shirt and tie and a hat. They wanted everyone to see this atire and call them africanders. So much so that even the mothers of brides would first prefer an africander. And zooommm they all came back to Goa and some went to UK because Goa was dirty full of cowdung and no electricity to see their faces etc etc. The second case was those who migrated to Bombay. Come month of May and they would be seen on the streets with a hat on their head, short pants, etc etc and moving about in buses even in the late afternoon sweating and cursing Goa because the buses are crowed etc bla bla bla. We Goans in Goa have the habit of allowing others to talk evil of us . I am not surprised that for a dine and dance people rush to the table and fill their plates up to the brim because they in normal life cannot afford that much of food and here for dine and dance they can capture lot of food for a small price of money. We who are still left in Goa whenever we visit foreign countries do not grumble that our relatives over there are bartenders, waiters, plumbers even if they possesse a degree or post graduation etc etc. But when you come here please do not boast about your land which is actually not yours. Goans and Indians are not welcomed in foreign lands and Europeans rarely will mix with Goans and Indians over there though they will hug and kiss you here in Goa. The picture shown by our Goans migrated abroad is not true picture. Goans are starving in foreign countries. They cannot afford luxury like we can afford over here. They sometimes cannot afford a ticket to go anywhere and they have friends and relatives over here they come over her and that is the reason most of them travel by bus and make a big show. Do you know that when you go for a wedding in UK the groom and the bride will just give you one soft drink, or may be one peg of hot drink and one plate of snacks the rest you buy.
[Goanet] Goa and Goans
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Happy New Year Twenty-Ten --- Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: "Vivian A. DSouza" Enough of all these personal attacks and questioning who is more of a Goan then themselves !! Think! What have you so called real Niz Goenkars allowed to happen to our once beautiful Goa? All you have to offer is a lot of "xappotam" and hot air. Mario observes: Vivian doesn't write often enough, but when he does he leaves little more that can be said:-)) For an otherwise intelligent guy, Samir has long held that Goans who live abroad - citizenship is a red herring in this day and age - do not have any legitimacy to opine on Goan issues and what to do about these. I was quite surprised when I first found out that he doesn't live in Goa either. I hope Vivian's post puts the focus where it really counts - on the Goan government and the unholy alliances between corrupt politicians and business interests, and the foreign drug and prostitution gangs that are undermining Goan democracy and its quality of life while running roughshod over the existing laws. I don't know who in Goa has the time and resources, passion and righteous indignation, eloquence and fearlessness to lead the citizen's revolt that it is going to take to shake up this unholy alliance, which is not going to go down without a fight, believe me.
[Goanet] Goa and Goans
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Happy New Year Twenty-Ten --- Dear fellow goans Debate is one thing, slagging each other off with sarcasm and negatives is another. Typically , we are wasting precious time and missing the point altogether with irrelevant arguments about who is more goan and who is not - it is ridiculous and as useful as trying to re-arrange the deckchairs in the sinking Titanic Let's be constructive and get on with the job and face the big issues. After all we have an Italian lady rulling the Congress Party, and I happen to be half Spanish. So what?I am still a goan, I can still speak Konkani, and cook the best goan curries and xacuti and sorpotel and ..yes and the question is - can I contribute to the movement to save Goa? The answer is yes and I am ready to have a go. Are you ready fellow goans, where ever you are? Let's stop talking and wasting our "LATIN" and get on with the action. See you soon in Goa! Carmen
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--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Happy New Year Twenty-Ten --- 2010/1/8 Samir Kelekar > Futher, if the bloke has any sense of integrity, > he will go and do his bit for his newly > adapted country, may be go to Iraq or > Afghanistan. But the opportunist > that he is, all one can expect from him > is more verbal abuse Samir, do you mean "adopted"? FN
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--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Happy New Year Twenty-Ten --- Dear Vivian, You have deviated, for once, from your usual one-liners. And it is apparent that your feelings are hurt but not allowed to cause hurt. As far as I am concerned, you or Rajan or whoever including Ole_xac in Timor are Goans with a Goan heart. And this is what counts, not the passports and citizenship or whatever. And nobody need welcome you to your home because it is yours. Cheers floriano goasuraj 9890470896 www.goasu-raj.org PS: When in Rome - do as the Romans do . When in Goa - eat xhit-coddi :-)) PPS: Goa's Need of the Hour .. What's Zat??? ...Citizenship and passport of the Republic of GOA why not??? - Original Message - From: "Vivian A. DSouza" To: Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 8:42 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goa and Goans Enough of all these personal attacks and questioning who is more of a Goan then themselves !! Think ! What have you so called real Niz Goenkars allowed to happen to our once beautiful Goa ? All you have to offer is a lot of "xappotam" and hot air ?.
[Goanet] Goa and Goans
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Happy New Year Twenty-Ten --- Vivian, I have thrown an open challenge to Rajan to take up Indian citizenship. His response to that, as always, was more abuse. Changing a citizenship is not something as casual as changing an underwear. People have given their lives to get this country free, to earn something called citizenship. Futher, if the bloke has any sense of integrity, he will go and do his bit for his newly adapted country, may be go to Iraq or Afghanistan. But the opportunist that he is, all one can expect from him is more verbal abuse regards, Samir
[Goanet] Goa and Goans
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- Happy New Year Twenty-Ten --- Enough of all these personal attacks and questioning who is more of a Goan then themselves !! OK, so Samir, born in Goa, the son of an illustrious Goan Freedom fighter, afrer studies abroad came back to Goa, retains his Indian citizenship, cares about Goa and is doing his best to expose corruption and other ills in Goa. Kudos to him. Rajan, born in Goa, moved abroad and acquired citizenship of his host country, but loves Goa so much that he returns often, and for extended periods. When one returns to Goa after an extended period abroad, the rot that has set into Goa becomes depressively obvious. Bluntly and without mincing words Rajan has raised an outcry against all the ills that have beset Goa. With his camera he has captured both the beauty of Goa and desecration of our once pristine surroundings. A picture is said to be worth a thousand words and with his camera he has been eloquent. With anger welling up inside him, Rajan makes his point in sometimes colorful language. Perhaps too colorful for our tender ears ? On this forum we are now aligning ourselves into pro and anti Rajan forces. As a true Goan living in Goa, abeit with foreign citizenship, I fall into the minority pro-Rajan camp by the very fact that I dont have Indian citizenship and also because I too am apalled by what is happening to Goa. For long I have silently applauded Rajans effort to open our eyes to what is happening to Goa. . Unfortunately, we Goans have become like the proverbial frog, who when placed in a pot of water on a stove top, becomes very comfortable. When the heat is turned up the frog rather than jump out remains comfortably esconsced in his surroundings until he is cooked. Similarly most Goans have become so inured to the degradation of our land, environmentally and politically while being over-run by migrants that, except for a few brave souls, we remain in our susegad stupor. With our eyes being forcibly opened to what is happening in Goa, in typical Goan fashion we are now attacking the messenger. Instead of waking up and trying to do something to stem the rot we are stooping low down to question the patriotism of Rajan and others like him, (me included) who hold foreign citizenship. From the long lines of people trying to go abroad I am willing to bet that there are many Indians who would love to abandon ship and get a foreign citizenship. Also here in Goa there are many Goans who have surreptiously acquired Portuguese passports while holding on to their Indian citizenship. I was not born in Goa though my parents were. When India marched into Goa, living at the time in East Africa, I decided to turn in my Portuguese passport and applied for Indian citizenship. My case was referred to New Delhi. After many follow-ups and typical Indian bureaucratic stonewalling I took up citizenship of the country that I was living in at the time. For all I know my file is still gathering dust in New Delhi ! When I retired I chose to come and live in Goa. I live with all the restrictions imposed on foreigners like me. I pay my taxes but I have no voice in the political system, I cannot be gainfully employed nor can I legally run a business or purchase agricultural land. I report regularly to the Foreigners Reistration Office and have to get their NOC whenever I leave India. As a foreigner I can "vamoose" to the land of my citizenship or be booted out of Goa. Yet, with all these restrictions I came to live in the land of my ancestors because I love Goa. I am doing my part for the betterment of Goa and Goans in a low-key manner. Am I less of a Goan than others who were born in Goa. ? Think ! What have you so called real Niz Goenkars allowed to happen to our once beautiful Goa ? All you have to offer is a lot of "xappotam" and hot air ?.
[Goanet] Goa and Goans.
Respected Editor, Goa was known as "GOMANTAK" word coming from Gomant mountains.Goans are and were a peace loving people where humanism is and was valued rather than casts and religions.Every goan attends Mandirs,Churches and Dargas irrespective of his faith.Then,where is the hitch? Why should anybody create hatred? With best regards, Damodar Bale.
[Goanet] Goa and Goans insulted in Calcutta Telegraph editorial
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. [Miguel] In the anthology of corporate positioning strategies, the former may be well established (making due allowance for the interchange introduced for protective purposes). But the latter is, on the face of things, a bit unfamiliar, at least to me. Is it risky? I am overlooking the issue of legality coz in corporate co-operation everything is fair. Is it possible to observe a demo in Goa or would one have to go across the border? Cheers.
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* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. --- Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Philip Thomas wrote:> > Cecil, you must be joking, right? Cheers. > Dear Philip, > > No I was not joking. --- http://www.mail-archive.com/goanet@lists.goanet.org/msg22391.html "Dozen in a Trax, we cum for sax", said another signboard. This from a raggedly bunch of only male Indian tourists of indeterminate ethnicity but probably from Bihar, Rajastan and Madhya Pradesh judging from their attire and paan spitting. I spoke to a middle aged man, reeking of alcohol fumes, dressed in a lungi and a short sleeved banian who exclaimed. "Why phor they are closing Baina yaar? We want sax!". At this point I realized they were not lovers of jazz. --- Next was a convoy of hired tourist cars of all shapes and sizes carrying rich Gujarati, Delhi and Punjabi businessmen. All of them had at least three cell phones each and were constantly on the phone while keeping an eye on their bulging briefcases which presumably held many crores worth of currency notes. "We are buying real estate in Goa. We are investors. We want big tracts of land". "So why are you in this protest march headed to Azad Maidan?", I asked. "Oh! We just got caught in the traffic. We are actually headed to the Assembly Complex for some direct dealings!" Hot on their heels were the Mumbai minor celebrity wannabes. The women in halter tops and the men in tank tops, all Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ
[Goanet] Goa and Goans insulted in Calcutta Telegraph editorial
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear All: Such prejudiced and biased reporting is rife not only in indian mainstream press but also international media.When the biases and prejudice reflected in the article are not in line with our own, we cry hoarse about media being biased and what not. But when such mischiveous articles share our prejudices we righteously submit them "evidence" for our own bigotted arguments. This holds true for youtube videos of dubious authenticity as well as whitepapers published on various blogs by political ideologues masquerading as social activists across the ideological spectrum. That is why ,like Santosh says, everyone must be allowed to post their views given any situation.No one has a monopoly over the truth, at least not on goanet. regards B Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
[Goanet] Goa and Goans insulted in Calcutta Telegraph
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. The perspective below of how the editorial writers of the Calcutta Telegraph see their Bangali CM reminded me of something I heard today after a match at Fatorda. It came to from a former General Secretary of the GFA. This is how it goes: Jovntalo jovon ghelo sopear boslealacho aand kadlo The one having an affair took off after doing his deed (illicit/ say extramarital or whatever) The one sitting* on the balcao lost his testicles/ had his testicles snatched/ ripped off. * just some tired soul resting venantius > From: "Cecil Pinto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [Goanet] Goa and Goans insulted in Calcutta Telegraph >editorial > Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, when faced with opposition to a special > economic zone in Nandigram, sent policemen there. When the local > people reacted unfavourably, columns of partymen went in.
Re: [Goanet] Goa and Goans insulted in Calcutta Telegraph editorial
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Dear Cecil, That was an Editorial comparing two "development" models .. and responses of two CMs in two states [of mind and politics] ... not a definition of a Goan! ;-) If one is decribed as a person who serves ...and then gets served in return ... why think of an International 96 or a Marathi 36? A farmer who grows rice is served the Von-Xit at neighbours party. So what is wrong in being a waiter [or a hotel executive] and enjoying a buffet dinner at a party or being dancer on the river cruises and going to the disco with one's gal or being a bartender and going out for a drink with friends? Fog re kiteak? Mog asundi Miguel On Jan 10, 2008 9:47 PM, Cecil Pinto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Dear Philip, No I was not joking. I find it strange that all the Goans don't find anything wrong with an editorial that characterises Goans as only, "serving food and drinks to tourists for a living, then getting on their motorcycles and going to their own bars". Now there's nothing wrong with serving drinks to tourists but there's lots more to Goa than just tourism. That is the point the editor seems to have missed. Cheers! Cecil === > Philip Thomas wrote: > in > The Telegraph - Calcutta on 7th January 2008.>[Cecil Pinto] > > Cecil, you must be joking, right? Cheers. > - > > > > > -- -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-. Miguel Braganza, S1 Gracinda Apts, Rajvaddo, Mhapsa 403507 Goa Ph 9822982676 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.-.
[Goanet] Goa and Goans insulted in Calcutta Telegraph editorial
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. Philip Thomas wrote: [Cecil Pinto] Cecil, you must be joking, right? Cheers. - Dear Philip, No I was not joking. I find it strange that all the Goans who get their panties in a knot when Goan women are stereotyped as promiscous, and Goan men as drunks, in Bollywoood movies, don't find anything wrong with an editorial that characterises Goans as only, "serving food and drinks to tourists for a living, then getting on their motorcycles and going to their own bars". Now there's nothing wrong with serving drinks to tourists but there's lots more to Goa than just tourism. That is the point the editor seems to have missed. Cheers! Cecil ===
[Goanet] Goa and Goans insulted in Calcutta Telegraph editorial
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * GARCA BRANCA VACATION ACCOMMODATION LOUTULIM, SOUTH GOA. For R&R; modern/clean amenities; serene, healthy and wholesome location Visit http://www.garcabranca.com for details/booking/confirmation. [Cecil Pinto] Cecil, you must be joking, right? Cheers.
[Goanet] Goa and Goans insulted in Calcutta Telegraph editorial
The absolutely senseless and insulting, to Goa, editorial below appeared in The Telegraph - Calcutta on 7th January 2008. Please respond if you can to the Editor of the Telegraph at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and also send a c.c. to Goan lists such as <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Please forward this to right thinking Goans everywhere. - Source: http://www.telegraphindia.com/1080107/jsp/opinion/story_8746788.jsp GOA WAY Buddhadeb Bhattacharjee, when faced with opposition to a special economic zone in Nandigram, sent policemen there. When the local people reacted unfavourably, columns of partymen went in. He addressed a meeting of those who survived and conquered, and announced there would be no SEZ. His counterpart in Goa, Digambar Kamat, when faced with similar opposition, did not bother to instil respect for the State in his people. As soon as a non-governmental organization raised a few flags, he cancelled all SEZs. He obviously does not care for the development of his state — the thousands of jobs SEZs would bring, and with them, the tall chimneys, glass-covered office buildings, rows of cars outside them, the entire paraphernalia of development. But perhaps Mr Kamat thinks of another kind of development — development in which rich foreigners frolic on the beach, stay in coconut-thatched huts, laze around and sip feni under sunshades. Except for good beaches, West Bengal has all that Goa has — beautiful landscape, lush vegetation, plenty of waterbodies — why did not its chief minister think of development in the terms that Goans do? Maybe because his ideological upbringing has trained him to think of development in different terms. For him, development means restoring West Bengal's glory, making it a leading industrial state, watching sweating men quench castings and beat forgings. To someone who does not share that dream, it would seem much inferior to the development Goans have got already — serving food and drinks to tourists for a living, then getting on their motorcycles and going to their own bars. Why, then, can West Bengal not share in the Goan idyll? It would require spreading development to the countryside — but surely that is what everyone wants. It would require Bengalis to speak English — why is English being taught to children if not to speak it? It would require beautifying West Bengal's countryside — and, in the long months, when foreign tourists do not come, people who live in West Bengal can enjoy that beauty. Serving foreigners, making West Bengal beautiful, enjoying life — somehow it sounds shocking. But it is shocking only to communists who see virtue in toil, or to Protestants who make religion of work. What stops others from pursuing the good life in West Bengal is that Bengalis are brought up to disdain it. But it is all in the mind; and if only the mindset changed, the path to development would be so much smoother, and its end so much more enjoyable. While industrial countries went through the industrial cycle and then left it to the Chinese, envying the Chinese has not stopped. But it need not be so. As the Goans would say, "Get a life, man". ==
[Goanet] Goa and Goans ....at......Masala! Mehndi Masti! 2007
literary arts: MMM DESILIT WRITER'S CAFÉ - Newly Published Writer's Panel Sat. July 28 - (4PM, Writer's Café Stage, BLC) Silviano Custódio Barbosa hails from Cuncolim, Goa, India. He was born on November 3, 1949 and attended the Portuguese Lyceum in his early years. In 1966 he won a National Merit Scholarship. He obtained a Bachelor's Degree in Chemistry from Bombay University in 1970. From 1973 to 1975, he travelled through the UK, Germany and Switzerland, finally immigrating to Canada in 1975. In Canada he attended the University of Toronto and Humber College and later completed a novel writing program at George Brown College. Well-versed in languages - Konkani, English, Portuguese, French and Hindi - he is an Information Technology professional. Now a Canadian citizen, he is married with three children. He lives in Toronto and remains active in the Goan community. This is his first work of fiction. Silviano is the author of The Sixth Night http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=268 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GOA AMIGOS & THE MALAIKAS Sun. July 29 - (1PM, Bandshell Stage) Goa Amigos is one of Canada's leading Indo-Goan bands. Their music style possesses a versatile mix of traditional Goan folk to a more modern 90's dance feel. The band well known for its versatility to perform in various languages such as English, Hindi, Konkani, Arabic and Portuguese comprises of 5 proficient and accomplished musicians with their own unique styles.. Selwyn Collaco on rhythm guitar & vocals, Victor Rodrigues on lead guitar & vocals, Richard Heynes on drums & vocals, Lawrence Rodrigues on keyboards & vocals and Alex Heynes on bass & vocals. Goa Amigos along with the dynamic dance troupe- Malaikas present Goan culture in all its multicultural glory - carnivale time along with some traditional Goan folk styles. Masala! Mehndi Masti! 2007 is happening at the Exhibition Place, Toronto Canada from July 27-29, 2007 http://www.masalamehndimasti.com Goanet A&E http://www.goanet.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=216
