Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
My mother tells me that the term entronizacao is the dedication of the house to the Sacred Heart i.e. the Sacred Heart of Jesus was made the king of the house on that particular date when the house was first purchased by my grandmother. The litany of NS de Piedade was held in October, preceded by the novena as stated. The litany of Sacred Heart (Cor Iesu ..) used to be held on the 3rd of May at the Melo's house (roughly coincides with Filosha's birthday), and on the 26th May at our house. During the course of years, the dates became moveable somewhat, and I remember a terrible storm circa 3rd May 1967, on the way to the Melo's. Incidentally, the litany to the Sacred Heart, in front of the statue that stands halfway between the Church and the cemetery in Loutolim, used to be sung on 25th May every year until as recent as 5 years ago, when the tradition was discontinued due to lack of participation, as my mother informs me. - Original Message From: Alfred de Tavares alfredtava...@hotmail.com To: GOANET Lists goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thu, 2 December, 2010 1:42:20 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving? Gabriel, 'entronizacao' must be the the embodiment of the 5th Glorious Mystery, the enthronement and crowning of the Blessed Virngin Mary as the Queen of All Heaven.
[Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
Hello Goanetters, The Goan Ladainha is a 'Start of Celebration' for almost anything Gayatri Sankar is completely wrong. These people are just trying their art of lying to the gullible and thereby becoming known. The Ladainha is the portuguese name of the Litany in English. This is a solemn prayer, albeit a longish one, and can be recited or sung. Normally sung or recited after a long Roasary prayer session. It has been and still is a very 'popular form of prayer' and is Sung with great pomp and gusto at the time of celebrations, mostly in the Home. I have seen and heard this Ladainha sung in 'voices' and most often accompanied by violin playing. (No Gumot!) When I lived in Goa, I often used to gate crash (if not invited) these celebrations with the ladainha Singing; of course with the promise of the good old 'cuppacho' at the end of the prayer service. Even kids used to look forward to having a sip at Muscatel! Nostalgia indeed! Even more lovely is the Funeral song mai thaim vetam! literally meaning: going to mother; this is such a beautiful song at funerals, it has always brought tears of joy to me! You see, we have learnt 'to respect the dead' from the Portuguese and British influence; giving 'our Dead' a solemn farewell! Another great Goan custom. Viva Goa! Viva Goan Lifestyle! Nascimento Caldeira. - --- On Wed, 1/12/10, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Last week I learnt that the Goans in the Uk were housekeepers. This week, I am learning that the American Thanksgiving is celebrated in Goa as the Ladin. Writes Gayatri Sankar Indian’s lifestyle and culture have had a great influence from the West and Thanksgiving Day is one such custom which is quite popular. The state of Goa, which has a thick population of Christians, celebrates the festival with great pomp and show. The Goans have named the day as ‘Ladin’ or ‘Ladainha’. ‘Ladin’ means a litany to the Virgin Mary. http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story76094.htm Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong? Best, Selma
Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
As far as I know, a Ladainha can be sung at any time of tne year. It may be to give thanks for an auspicious event, eg after the birth of a child, or the blessing of a house, etc. In my family, we used to have a Ladainha (feast) after a nine-day rosary of Our Lady of Sorrows (sung in Latin and Konkani on alternate days) followed by Salve Rainha in Portuguese and Virgem Mae de Deus, in the month of October; a Ladainha in May to celebrate entronizacao -don't know till this date what this means. A similar Ladainha was also held at my maternal grand-parents place at end of May. Ladainha can therefore be celebrated in thanksgiving for a particular event, which is not the same as the American Thanksgiving. Gabriel de Figueiredo On 30/11/2010, at 7:53 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Last week I learnt that the Goans in the Uk were housekeepers. This week, I am learning that the American Thanksgiving is celebrated in Goa as the Ladin. Writes Gayatri Sankar Indian’s lifestyle and culture have had a great influence from the West and Thanksgiving Day is one such custom which is quite popular. The state of Goa, which has a thick population of Christians, celebrates the festival with great pomp and show. The Goans have named the day as ‘Ladin’ or ‘Ladainha’. ‘Ladin’ means a litany to the Virgin Mary. http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story76094.htm Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong? Best, Selma
Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
Gabriel, 'entronizacao' must be the the embodiment of the 5th Glorious Mystery, the enthronement and crowning of the Blessed Virngin Mary as the Queen of All Heaven. Vai tudo bem la abaixo? Alfred Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:53:52 -0800 From: gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving? As far as I know, a Ladainha can be sung at any time of tne year. It may be to give thanks for an auspicious event, eg after the birth of a child, or the blessing of a house, etc. In my family, we used to have a Ladainha (feast) after a nine-day rosary of Our Lady of Sorrows (sung in Latin and Konkani on alternate days) followed by Salve Rainha in Portuguese and Virgem Mae de Deus, in the month of October; a Ladainha in May to celebrate entronizacao -don't know till this date what this means. A similar Ladainha was also held at my maternal grand-parents place at end of May. Ladainha can therefore be celebrated in thanksgiving for a particular event, which is not the same as the American Thanksgiving. Gabriel de Figueiredo On 30/11/2010, at 7:53 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Last week I learnt that the Goans in the Uk were housekeepers. This week, I am learning that the American Thanksgiving is celebrated in Goa as the Ladin. Writes Gayatri Sankar Indian’s lifestyle and culture have had a great influence from the West and Thanksgiving Day is one such custom which is quite popular. The state of Goa, which has a thick population of Christians, celebrates the festival with great pomp and show. The Goans have named the day as ‘Ladin’ or ‘Ladainha’. ‘Ladin’ means a litany to the Virgin Mary. http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story76094.htm Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong? Best, Selma
Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
Tudo bem, D. Alfredo. Estou neste momento emGoa, cuidando pela minha mae, who is presently recovering from a gall bladder operation. She is doing well given her advanced age. Cheers, Gabriel de Figueiredo On 02/12/2010, at 1:42 AM, Alfred de Tavares alfredtava...@hotmail.com wrote: Gabriel, 'entronizacao' must be the the embodiment of the 5th Glorious Mystery, the enthronement and crowning of the Blessed Virngin Mary as the Queen of All Heaven. Vai tudo bem la abaixo? Alfred Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2010 09:53:52 -0800 From: gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving? As far as I know, a Ladainha can be sung at any time of tne year. It may be to give thanks for an auspicious event, eg after the birth of a child, or the blessing of a house, etc. In my family, we used to have a Ladainha (feast) after a nine-day rosary of Our Lady of Sorrows (sung in Latin and Konkani on alternate days) followed by Salve Rainha in Portuguese and Virgem Mae de Deus, in the month of October; a Ladainha in May to celebrate entronizacao -don't know till this date what this means. A similar Ladainha was also held at my maternal grand-parents place at end of May. Ladainha can therefore be celebrated in thanksgiving for a particular event, which is not the same as the American Thanksgiving. Gabriel de Figueiredo On 30/11/2010, at 7:53 PM, Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com wrote: Last week I learnt that the Goans in the Uk were housekeepers. This week, I am learning that the American Thanksgiving is celebrated in Goa as the Ladin. Writes Gayatri Sankar Indian’s lifestyle and culture have had a great influence from the West and Thanksgiving Day is one such custom which is quite popular. The state of Goa, which has a thick population of Christians, celebrates the festival with great pomp and show. The Goans have named the day as ‘Ladin’ or ‘Ladainha’. ‘Ladin’ means a litany to the Virgin Mary. http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story76094.htm Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong? Best, Selma
[Goanet] Is the Goan ladin the same as the American Thanksgiving?
Last week I learnt that the Goans in the Uk were housekeepers. This week, I am learning that the American Thanksgiving is celebrated in Goa as the Ladin. Writes Gayatri Sankar Indian’s lifestyle and culture have had a great influence from the West and Thanksgiving Day is one such custom which is quite popular. The state of Goa, which has a thick population of Christians, celebrates the festival with great pomp and show. The Goans have named the day as ‘Ladin’ or ‘Ladainha’. ‘Ladin’ means a litany to the Virgin Mary. http://spicezee.zeenews.com/articles/story76094.htm Am I crazy or is this just plain wrong? Best, Selma
