Re: [Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary -Original Message- From: Mario Goveia Mario responds on August 24, 2009: a) I have not demonized anyone by name, but, since you brought it up: RESPONSE: Mario on another thread on August 24, 2009 with the subject: Marlon's maniacal misrepresentations continue http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/182190.html No-no, Mario does not demonize anybody. He was complimenting Marlon, at least in his head. Gilbert was very accurate when he stated Mario made conflicting statements in the same post. Here we see him make conflicting statements on the same day. Since it is a new Monday, a new week, let me remind Mario - your posts contain distortions, smears, personal invective, sarcasm and demonizing of fellow Goanetters who you disagree with. You have been doing it for the past 5 years. Let us know when you want to have a real discussion on any issue. In the meantime inform you handlers, the party is over!! - B PS. As far as FDR is concerned, you would have done well to live in Goa longer than the 10 days each winter to learn more about Forsu, Duming and Roldao!! PPS. Have you paid the 5 bucks for a subscription of Pajama TV??
Re: [Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2009 00:07:51 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com Mario responds on August 24, 2009: a) I have not demonized anyone by name, but, since you brought it up: RESPONSE: Mario on another thread on August 24, 2009 with the subject: Marlon's maniacal misrepresentations continue http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/182190.html No-no, Mario does not demonize anybody. He was complimenting Marlon, at least in his head. Gilbert was very accurate when he stated Mario made conflicting statements in the same post. Here we see him make conflicting statements on the same day. Mario responds: Hey, Bosco, I have already shown with source after source your posts where you have totally ignored a topic while making only personal comments and insinuations about the writer, which some of your cronies then piggyback on. Now you have resorted to distorting what I was referring to, but, unfortunately for you, there are no conflicting statements since I was referring specifically to the following post: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181957.html The post above was what I was referring to by responding to YOUR response to it, which is shown in the link below. See if you can find any personalities in the link above: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/182006.html You conveniently switched gears to a completely different series of exchanges with Marlon. However, if you had taken the time to read any of those you would see that they exposed and corrected a whole series of bald faced falsehoods, in which Marlon started to use my name in the subject line, so I was not constrained from doing the same. Samjha, na?! See, Marlon and you have something in common as I have shown in this post, twisting posts by taking them out of sequence or context, often truncating posts to change the meaning of what has been written. Thank God for the Goanet archives which can be used to expose such chicanery. You also need to be careful of referencing anything Gilbert has written, because you seem unaware that those have all been rebutted with adequate sourcing for most reasonable people. You wouldn't know, because you haven't read those either. The rest of your comments are similar delusional garbage and personal attacks which do not fit any of the facts.
Re: [Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
August 25, 2009 - Goanet's 15th Anniversary Mario previously wrote: Nice try, Bosco, but anyone who reads my posts knows that I respond with facts and logic and robust common sense, on topic, whereas you often do not do this. Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 23:59:08 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com Don't delude yourself, Mario. Your posts contain distortions, smears, personal invective, sarcasm and demonizing of fellow Goanetters who you disagree with. Mario responds: a) Do Goanetters need Bosco to selectively describe my posts with vague generalities? Or can they make up their own minds? b) Do those who I am allegedly smearing and distorting need Bosco to selectively demonize my comments or are they free to rebut what I have written by citing specific examples, rather than general and non-specific broadsides that Bosco resorts to? Here is an example of where Bosco has done exactly what he is accusing me of, while avoiding the topic altogether: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181824.html Mario previously wrote: Almost always, at least one of three of your cronies piggyback off your posts, or vice versa, also ignoring the topic. Bosco wrote: There you go..personal invective and demonizing of Goanetters from you instead of sticking to a thread or subject under discussion. You just cannot help yourself. Mario responds: Can correctly describing a fact be described as demonizing someone who has already demonized themselves by what they have written? If you re-read the reference you have cited you may notice that, a) I have not demonized anyone by name, but, since you brought it up: b) Here is an example of what I was talking about where you wrote another crabby comment while ignoring the issue being discussed and one of your cronies piggybacked on your comment while also ignoring the subject: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181262.html Others can make up their own minds whether I have demonized anyone or whether they have demonized themselves. Mario previously wrote: I have shown above what happens when my post is on the topic at hand and you are unable to keep up with the discussion - you resort to ridicule and gratuitous insults often with not a single reference to the topic of the post. Bosco wrote: You have resorted to personal invective and demonizing. Your bouts of last-wordism does not necessarily mean what you disseminate here are facts. Mario responds: Of course they are facts. If they weren't I would not need to make the corrections. I notice your allegations are not accompanied by any examples. If I have done what you allege, wouldn't the targets protest or respond in kind? Besides, has anyone noticed the blizzard of bogus information that comes down from Bosco and his crony in Toronto about the wonders of the Canadian health care system? In the meantime I have accepted the fact that the Canadian system helps many people, especially when their lives are not in jeopardy from a serious illness. Then they end up on waiting lists, precisely when they need attention ASAP. Then we get confirmation from the incoming President of the Canadian Medical Association that their system is imploding? And Bosco has the nerve to accuse ME of not disseminating facts? Bosco wrote: You will reap as you sow!! And Shantidoot can look after himself. As is your nature, you cannot respect Shantidoot's decision to return to the shadows. Mario responds: Hey, I can also make others reap what they sow, especially when they sow rotten fruit. Re. the so-called Messenger of Peace, I may know from reading between the lines who Shantidoot really is. If I am correct, the person behind the charade is anything but a Messenger of Peace. I don't know how some people are allowed to remain anonymous in spite of Goanet rules. As the lone voice on Goanet of reason, truth and peace I wanted to help Shantidoot, because he has apparently infuriated someone who is not as patient about snide and baseless comments as I am. But he apparently thinks he can look after himself. Whether Shantidoot can look after himself is still an open question since he apparently declined an invitation to have an Obama-style Beer Summit in Goa with his adversary:-)) Maybe some day:-)) He may want to take his cronies along - more than one to be really safe. Bosco wrote: Have you paid the $5 subscription for your news outlet - Pajama TV?? Unlikely, as you are an alleged conservative who would rather Paulson not bail out any of the banks. Instead of a recession, perhaps you were rooting for a depression. Mario responds: Once again, Bosco resorts to his trade mark attempts to demonize a source of information while completely ignoring what the
Re: [Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992 For a list of World Goa Day events see: http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: Mario Goveia Nice try, Bosco, but anyone who reads my posts knows that I respond with facts and logic and robust common sense, on topic, whereas you often do not do this. RESPONSE: Don't delude yourself, Mario. Your posts contain distortions, smears, personal invective, sarcasm and demonizing of fellow Goanetters who you disagree with. Almost always, at least one of three of your cronies piggyback off your posts, or vice versa, also ignoring the topic. RESPONSE: There you go..personal invective and demonizing of Goanetters from you instead of sticking to a thread or subject under discussion. You just cannot help yourself. I have shown above what happens when my post is on the topic at hand and you are unable to keep up with the discussion - you resort to ridicule and gratuitous insults often with not a single reference to the topic of the post. RESPONSE: You have resorted to personal invective and demonizing. Dont expect anything less in a response. Why would anybody want to respond to you in any other way? Why would anybody want to debate any subject with you when all you do in return is distort, smear, direct personal invective, sarcasm and demonize fellow Goanetters who you disagree with. In 5 years where have all the people who debated you in the past gone? Dont delude yourself into flights of fancy. Your bouts of last-wordism does not necessarily mean what you disseminate here are facts. You merely forward the propaganda you receive - from your Inbox to our Inbox. Ofcourse in the process you make it look like you authored it. You will reap as you sow!! And Shantidoot can look after himself. As is your nature, you cannot respect Shantidoot's decision to return to the shadows. Mind you, you can do bugger all about anything other than type your 4 msgs, 5 days a week because it does not cost you a penny!! And on the 5th day you contradict what you wrote on the 1st day. Have you paid the $5 subscription for your news outlet - Pajama TV?? Unlikely, as you are an alleged conservative who would rather Paulson not bail out any of the banks. Instead of a recession, perhaps you were rooting for a depression. - B
Re: [Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
August 20 - WORLD GOA DAY Celebrating the inclusion of Konkani in the 8th schedule of the Indian Constitution on August 20, 1992 For a list of World Goa Day events see: http://worldgoaday2009.blogspot.com Mario wrote: In the post by Bosco identified above and the comment he has highlighted by Gilbert, we see that tendency once again, where there is no attempt to address any points made on a contentious subject, just a deliberate attempt to personally ridicule someone they apparently disagree with but are unable to rebut with any real facts or opinions. Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 17:48:40 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com Folks, please excuse Mario. His corn is hurting now that the shoe is on the other foot. As we can see, he cannot take it like he gives it Mario responds: Nice try, Bosco, but anyone who reads my posts knows that I respond with facts and logic and robust common sense, on topic, whereas you often do not do this. You often avoid a topic altogether as I have shown in a couple of recent posts, preferring to hurl personal invective and sarcasm against some posters whom you disagree with or cannot deal with or whose style irritates you. Almost always, at least one of three of your cronies piggyback off your posts, or vice versa, also ignoring the topic. Bosco wrote: As far as personal ridicule is concerned, the ball is in your court. You will be addressed the way you address others. Mario responds: Here is the ball back, an example where you didn't even try to make any logical points or comments on the topic under discussion, but simply tried to use jejune ridicule, and stepped in yet another cow cake: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181824.html Readers should compare this post with your comments I am responding to here, and see you try to divert attention. Bosco wrote: If your posts are on the topic at hand without any smears and gratuitous comments, you will receive responses on the topic at hand. If you errwell thenas you sow so shall you reap!!! Mario responds: I have shown above what happens when my post is on the topic at hand and you are unable to keep up with the discussion - you resort to ridicule and gratuitous insults often with not a single reference to the topic of the post. Fortunately, unlike the hapless Shantidoot, who was apparently attacked and threatened and intimidated to stop posting on Goanet, by personal emails by someone who I haven't YET been able to identify, I sow, and reap and sow again, and sometimes am forced to make others reap and eat what rotten fruit they may have sowed. After what I have survived so far in life, it would take a heavily armed force to even make me lose some nap time when someone tries to intimidate me. With insults and innuendo? Are you kidding me? One or your cronies BEGGED other Goanetters to shun my posts, which was hilarious, and vowed to NEVER, EVER respond to my posts again but has apparently given up on that track and is back to reaping what he often sows. Which is fine with me, a consistent defender of free speech, no matter how loony. BTW, you said that you knew who had attacked Shantidoot, but you refused to divulge who it was so that the rest of us could deal with the person. So we lost Shantidoot and his or her posts on Goanet. Bosco wrote: What has Zimbabwe, N. Korea, etc have to do with the Pope in this instance? Or even Aiyar-ji for that matter. [1] Mario responds: This has been answered in another post: http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181895.html Bosco, you need to stop embarrassing himself and let Aiyar-ji go. Anyone who reads my posts will see he has nothing to do with this discussion, except when you need him as a red herring.
[Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Hi Bosco, Rather than writing 4 to 5 goanet posts a day, and cause Goanet moderators some pirachit, the reactionary post-master should do some reading. But not the Palin twitter messages! Perhaps the right-winger should read the following post GOPs misplaced rage by a leading conservative economist. Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 23:51:12 -0400 From: Bosco D'Mello bos...@canada.com http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181824.html Gilbert, I hope you are not reading amcho Mario's 4 to 5 fugotios per day, 5 days a week. If you are, I say, get rid of your pirachit. Dont you have anything more important to do like average people? Kitem re?? Mario is so predictable that you can pick any of his msgs, write a one-liner and get him to write a Pee-Etch-Dee thesis in response. Usually he is not coherent. This is email afterall. Costs zilch like his source for news, Pajamas TV. If he had to print and send his posts, we would never hear from him; as a true conservative, he would be conservative with his moolah too. Mind you, sometimes, by Friday he is contradicting what he wrote on Monday, or totally strayed from the thread, etc, etcand with the weekend break..total amnesia!!! Mario observes: We recently saw posts by Roland Francis and Jose Colaco chiding a Goanetter for making some vicious personal comments instead of sticking to making points and counter points on the topic itself. In the post by Bosco identified above and the comment he has highlighted by Gilbert, we see that tendency once again, where there is no attempt to address any points made on a contentious subject, just a deliberate attempt to personally ridicule someone they apparently disagree with but are unable to rebut with any real facts or opinions.
Re: [Goanet] Personal crab attacks that avoid the subject
* G * O * A * N * E * T C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Apartment for sale in Campal/Miramar area, Panaji, Goa. Spacious 3 bedroom flat (3BHK)available for sale in upscale area near Miramar beach Contact: goaengineer...@aol.com Mario observes: In the post by Bosco identified above and the comment he has highlighted by Gilbert, we see that tendency once again, where there is no attempt to address any points made on a contentious subject, just a deliberate attempt to personally ridicule someone they apparently disagree with but are unable to rebut with any real facts or opinions. RESPONSE: Folks, please excuse Mario. His corn is hurting now that the shoe is on the other foot. As we can see, he cannot take it like he gives it. Arre Mariodont become fugar and play to the audience. This is no tiatr. As Russell Peters says - Be a man!! Oh! And try to stick to the topic at hand. For an example of a 'contentious subject' you seek, explain: What has Zimbabwe, N. Korea, etc have to do with the Pope in this instance? Or even Aiyar-ji for that matter. [1] As far as personal ridicule is concerned, the ball is in your court. You will be addressed the way you address others. Samja kya?? If your posts are on the topic at hand without any smears and gratuituous comments, you will receive responses on the topic at hand. If you errwell thenas you sow so shall you reap!!! - B [1] http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-August/181825.html
