[google-appengine] Re: Datastore API BUG?
Anybody help me ? On Dec 21, 10:55 pm, K_Reverter kunhua...@gmail.com wrote: I found a Strange thing. When I query a GQL like this: SELECT * FROM RgeoData where Y=3000 The result of first row is like this: ID/Name Y areaId maxX minX 130520 3000 2054 8125 8113 But when I query a GQL like this: SELECT * FROM RgeoData where Y=3000 order by minX The result of first row is like this: ID/Name Y areaId maxX minX 130521 3000 2053 8237 8236 And I haven't found row(minX=8113) in all the result rows; Whe is the row(minX=8113),Is this a bug? PS: 1.This phenomenon is not accidental,It will always reappear; 2.After i upload data to system,I wrote a class to read the data,so GAE alto create index for data ,the current index status is :Y ▲ , minX ▲ Serving,All OK 3.All the four fields has the same type:int If you can read chinese,you can refer to my chinese blog article about this (There are 2 screenshots): http://www.cnblogs.com/step1/archive/2008/12/21/1359477.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore impossibly slow?
Hello Tom,
try to check index.yaml to see if index for for time property exists.
Why do you have float type property for the time? it would be more
efficient to use datetime or integer, because float is much heavier.
And try to query without maximum limit, because it will be applied by
default:
If more than 1000 entities match the query, and either no limit is
specified or a limit larger than 1000 is used, only the first 1000
results are returned by fetch().
Regards,
Andrius
On Dec 21, 11:17 pm, Tom sharpbla...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
I have some data within my application that I want to expire after 1
week. To do this every day I get the 'Scheduler Service' (http://
schedulerservice.appspot.com/) to run a GET request to a page on my
app. This then runs a GQL that finds any records over 1 week old, and
deletes them.
Seems simple? I did a test with 24 records, and it took (Apparently)
'10706ms-cpu' time. 10 seconds to sort through 24 records??
Here is the code:
class clearapicallback(webapp.RequestHandler):
def get(self):
self.response.out.write('secret_callback_auth_code')
# 1 week = 604800
request = db.GqlQuery('SELECT * FROM Database WHERE time :
1',time.time()-10).fetch(1000)
db.delete(request)
and the Database object:
class Database(db.Model):
pid = db.StringProperty()
uid = db.StringProperty()
sex = db.StringProperty()
qid = db.StringProperty()
qan = db.StringProperty()
anon = db.BooleanProperty()
time = db.FloatProperty()
My question is, why did it take 10 seconds!! It wasn't a fluke, other
requests have taken '17583ms-cpu' or more, with 23 records.
Can I make database records expire automatically (I don't want to use
memcache, unless it is good for storing data for a whole week)? And
how can I improve the performence?
I am expecting a lot more than 24 records to be deleted a day, and I
cant have it using that much CPU!
Regards
~Tom
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[google-appengine] Re: Paging vs. crawlers
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Alexander Kojevnikov alexan...@kojevnikov.com wrote: This works great but there's still a problem: search engines are polluted with too many URLs. I think you'll find that any good search engine will be able to cope just fine with that. The best solution, though, is to implement a permalink-like setup, and encourage people to use permalinks when they link to your application's content. Dave. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Global Time Synchronisation Guarantees
I recall reading somewhere that, due to global time differences across servers, we cannot rely on timestamps to draw certain conclusions about GAE data e.g. operation sequence, etc. Time synchronisation is a critical issue in any distributed app yet I have been unable to get hard facts and figures on how well Google synchronises its servers globally. I assume some form of NTP syncing is performed so I would expect that steady state drift will be of the order of milliseconds across the globe. But what if a server is rebooted or added to the Google network? Will this server be disabled until it has reached a certain sync level. In a nutshell, a few questions... 1. How accurate are Google server clocks re: some global standard? 2. What is the maximum drift between servers? 3. Is tighter synchronisation guaranteed between servers in a local data centre servicing entity groups TIA, rvjcallanan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: dev_appserver.py GET requests are taking 0.5s or more on local system
On Dec 22, 10:32 am, Alexander Kojevnikov alexan...@kojevnikov.com wrote: See the last question in the Community FAQ:http://knol.google.com/k/marce/app-engine-community-faqs/vkzeph4si12v/1# Thanks Alexander! That definitely fixed the problem. I got a 10x speed increase (for both datastore queries *and* GET requests sent to the server). --Jonathan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: 1 application, multiple datastores
You use the example of maintenance and fixes on behalf of customers - when would that require querying across two customer's data stores? I never said or implied that it did. Issue 106 proposes '...cross app queries using the db APIs only' - which to me means you can easily introduce a bug like the one originally posted - i.e. querying across two customer's data stores. Apologies if I understood your responses to be in support of this approach when they were not. Perhaps you could elaborate your use case in a little more detail. Are you ok with the constraint that a query can not be run across multiple data stores? If we can agree on that, then I'd say we are doing pretty well. For accessing another application's data store from your code, I would (and have) recommended exposing an API that you can access via HTTP. I believe this is what Google has suggested in this post http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/12eb676e98a25293/f5cfaad4e0d79ac8 which is quoted in Issue 106. If you do have a use case where you do want/need to run queries across customer data stores, then I would have that customer data in the same data store - i.e. what do you need the partition for in the first place? Unfortunately the idea of a data partition and an application partition are the same thing at the moment with GAE, so perhaps you need the partition for quota and billing purposes, which forces you to have separate data stores when you don't want them. In that case I would raise a feature request for multiple applications to be able to share a single data store - would this satisfy what you are trying to achieve? On Dec 22, 3:03 am, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm paraphrasing you. You've written repeatedly that a feature that allows an application to choose the datastore on which it operates can not be used for your purposes. The argument appears to be that an application that uses such a feature can theoretically access multiple datastores and is therefore unacceptable, even if that application is written so it validates the user and then chooses which datastore to access and only accesses one datastore after doing so. However, you're happy if a user's data can be accessed through a google admin console or via an admin user. The reason that I find that distinction strained is that GAE applications and the google admin console can be driven programmatically. As a result, one can easily write code using those facilities that simultaneously accesses multiple datastores, which is your reason for rejecting the choose which datastore to access feature. You use the example of maintenance and fixes on behalf of customers - when would that require querying across two customer's data stores? I never said or implied that it did. On Dec 21, 4:13 pm, hawkett hawk...@gmail.com wrote: Who are you quoting? The Google admin console should not be capable of querying across multiple customer data stores. I repeat - application code can not execute a query across multiple customer data stores - did I offer a distinction somewhere? Admin console *would* allow you to run queries against each of your customer data stores in isolation. I expect it would use a common, non-public, platform API (i.e. making data security part of the platform) to access the logical partitions. What is your use-case? You use the example of maintenance and fixes on behalf of customers - when would that require querying across two customer's data stores? It's a recipe for disaster. On Dec 21, 11:53 pm, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote: The distinction between application code that can access multiple datastores and code that can access multiple datastores seems strained at best. If there's code that can get to a user's data (and both the admin console and an admin user are code that can get to the user's data), does it really matter what you call it? On Dec 21, 3:15 pm, hawkett hawk...@gmail.com wrote: Via the admin console. Google provides this application code, and it is common - part of the platform offering. This is one possibility. Another is that an admin user for that customer is made available to you for administration purposes. You could initialise the customer data space with this user profile. It may depend how you map the authenticated entity to logical identities in your application. Whichever, you do not have application code capable of querying across customer data stores, because the platform does not allow it. On Dec 21, 10:49 pm, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote: As I promised, now I'm going to ask how you plan to do maintenance and fixes on behalf of your customers if you can't get to their data. If you have access to the customer's data, they're trusting your code and Google is not protecting their data. On Dec 21, 2:13 pm,
[google-appengine] Re: Send and receive mail with embedded images
Jeff, First of all, thank! Last thing from this topic: Where should I submit my feature request? REGARDS! Daniel Levin On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote: Hi Daniel, It seems inline attachments with Content ID and MIME Multipart/Related Content is not supported in the current mail API, but I think it would be a good idea to file this as a feature request. Happy coding, Jeff On Dec 17, 1:55 pm, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote: Ah I see. I'm not sure how to do this using the App Engine mail API either, I'll ask around. Thank you, Jeff On Dec 17, 11:41 am, Daniel Levin danile...@gmail.com wrote: Alexander, Yes, I do refer to the that method (inline attachment using CID). I did it before with PHP without any problem, very easy. Now I want to migrate to Google App Engine, and I don't see how to implement that. Any idea? Regards, Daniel Levin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: ReferenceProperty proving slow, what path should we take?
Try using a dynamic tree control in your UI - e.g. http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#tree_databinding_ondemand Load all your groups, and then whenever you expand a group node, make a separate query for the users of that group. On Dec 21, 7:35 am, ohadpr oha...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, i'm playing with appengine's data models and i've just hit a little bump in the road: my classes are Group and User, I have many groups and many users. a user can belong to a group, and so I've used a ReferenceProperty from the user to the group which gave me a set of users in the group for easy retrieval. now I have a page that wants to show all the groups (lets say 50 groups) and for each group the list of users in that group. If i just get the rooms and for each room iterate over the set-of- users, this generates a new query per each group and is very slow. what's the best way to handle this? * should i store the relation in a new entity, then query for all the groups, users and relationships, build some python dictionaries and reconstruct the whole thing in python? * should i denormalize the whole thing? how? i'd still want to group the whole thing by Group, should I do that with python dictionaries? thanks a bunch, ohad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Frequent application reloading
Hi. All we know, that the first request after deploying application is very slow, because in this moment all modules must be loaded. Second request is much faster. But after some idle time (~1 minute) we have slow request again. I think WSGI server is unloads from memory after some timeout. Is this architectural necessity? What can I do with this problem? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] dns resolution inside an app engine application?
There is no way to resolve a hostname from inside an app engine app. Just wanted to check if someone has been able to solve this problem in some creative way. One of the app that I want to deploy needs to be able to resolve hosts. cheers, Manu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore impossibly slow?
Thanks Andrius, I will try to use the datetime module.
I tried beforehand, but I couldn't get it to work (For some reason),
so I reverted to use the time.time() function, which returned a float.
I also just tried using an integer rather than a float for the
time ,and it got slower...! - '13056ms-cpu'
Regards, and have a happy christmas,
Tom
On Dec 22, 10:31 am, Andrius andriu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Tom,
try to check index.yaml to see if index for for time property exists.
Why do you have float type property for the time? it would be more
efficient to use datetime or integer, because float is much heavier.
And try to query without maximum limit, because it will be applied by
default:
If more than 1000 entities match the query, and either no limit is
specified or a limit larger than 1000 is used, only the first 1000
results are returned by fetch().
Regards,
Andrius
On Dec 21, 11:17 pm, Tom sharpbla...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
I have some data within my application that I want to expire after 1
week. To do this every day I get the 'Scheduler Service' (http://
schedulerservice.appspot.com/) to run a GET request to a page on my
app. This then runs a GQL that finds any records over 1 week old, and
deletes them.
Seems simple? I did a test with 24 records, and it took (Apparently)
'10706ms-cpu' time. 10 seconds to sort through 24 records??
Here is the code:
class clearapicallback(webapp.RequestHandler):
def get(self):
self.response.out.write('secret_callback_auth_code')
# 1 week = 604800
request = db.GqlQuery('SELECT * FROM Database WHERE time :
1',time.time()-10).fetch(1000)
db.delete(request)
and the Database object:
class Database(db.Model):
pid = db.StringProperty()
uid = db.StringProperty()
sex = db.StringProperty()
qid = db.StringProperty()
qan = db.StringProperty()
anon = db.BooleanProperty()
time = db.FloatProperty()
My question is, why did it take 10 seconds!! It wasn't a fluke, other
requests have taken '17583ms-cpu' or more, with 23 records.
Can I make database records expire automatically (I don't want to use
memcache, unless it is good for storing data for a whole week)? And
how can I improve the performence?
I am expecting a lot more than 24 records to be deleted a day, and I
cant have it using that much CPU!
Regards
~Tom
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[google-appengine] Re: error when trying to do an upload
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[google-appengine] Re: error when trying to do an upload
what if when i use a proxy server? On Nov 27, 2:47 am, Thyako thy...@gmail.com wrote: I got this error once when my internet connection was down. It solved after I reconnected (in Ubuntu 8.10). ~Thiago On Nov 26, 11:52 am, davva da...@darmanin.com wrote: Anyone know whats causing this error message when i try and do an upload. D:\PROFILESappcfg.py update d:\googleapps\helloworld\ ( I enter my username and password twice here ) 2008-11-26 13:49:07,232 ERROR appcfg.py:1336 An unexpected error occurred. Aborting. Traceback (most recent call last): File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\appcfg.py, line 55, in module execfile(script_path, globals()) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1954, in module main(sys.argv) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1947, in main AppCfgApp(argv).Run() File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1524, in Run self.action.function(self) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1736, in Update lambda path: open(os.path.join(basepath, path), rb)) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1315, in DoUpload missing_files = self.Begin() File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1176, in Begin version=self.version, payload=self.config.ToYAML()) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 282, in Send self._Authenticate() File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 321, in _Authenticate super(HttpRpcServer, self)._Authenticate() File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 261, in _Authenticate self._GetAuthCookie(auth_token) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 203, in _GetAuthCookie response = self.opener.open(req) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 381, in open response = self._open(req, data) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 399, in _open '_open', req) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 360, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 1107, in http_open return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPConnection, req) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 1082, in do_open raise URLError(err) urllib2.URLError: urlopen error (11001, 'getaddrinfo failed') --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Imap and Google App engine
I'm doing some evaluation whether Google Appengine is appropriate for portion of project. However, I was unable to make imaplib working on Google App Engine. Is it possible to run IMAP on GAE? Also I was unable to make web.py working on - are there any pointers whether web.py works on Google Apple Engine? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: appcfg Server Error 500
How did you learn that you had exceeded your quota for application updates? Are you sure this was the problem? On Dec 20, 6:04 am, samba cooldudevam...@gmail.com wrote: Found a fix, started using dyndns and pointed it to my local appengine sdk dev server. On Dec 20, 1:46 pm, samba cooldudevam...@gmail.com wrote: For normal webdev yes its ok, but in the context of facebook apps we need to supply fbml and receive post requests from/to facebook servers. And I can no way do this on my localmachine. So I have to upload every change to google appenine and ask facebook servers to interact with the facebook app on the appengine. On Dec 20, 9:47 am, Ben Bishop leo...@gmail.com wrote: Install the SDK on your local machine so you can develop, test and debug. When you've got a stable production version ready, deploy to App Engine. It's well worth the effort of installing the SDK - you'll find it a lot faster process of developing your apps. On Dec 20, 11:05 am, samba cooldudevam...@gmail.com wrote: I have been learning and writing appengine based facebook apps. The problem is you have to upload your code using appcfg every time you make a small modification. And today I ran out ofquotaof using --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] SSL support - urllib2.HTTPSHandler() does not exist?
Does python running inside appengine support SSL? I'm getting error that urllib2.HTTPSHandler() does not exist: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'HTTPSHandler' So the question is: can app engine connect to outside world using SSL? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] AssertionError: Won't override attribute 'make_value_from_form'
I've searched around with not solution,so can anyone tell me how to
fix this,thanks very much!
As there're to much output,I've put the error page on GoogleDoc:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dck7n8r7_93cmvhs4fk
C:\Google\gae\google\appengine\ext\db\djangoforms.py in monkey_patch
(name='make_value_from_form', bases=(class
'google.appengine.ext.db.Property',), namespace={'__metaclass__':
function monkey_patch at 0x018FA130, '__module__':
'google.appengine.ext.db.djangoforms', 'get_form_field': function
get_form_field at 0x018FA1B0, 'get_value_for_form': function
get_value_for_form at 0x018FA2F0, 'make_value_from_form': function
make_value_from_form at 0x018FA0F0})
127 for name, value in namespace.iteritems():
128 if name not in ('__metaclass__', '__module__'):
129 assert name not in base.__dict__, Won't override
attribute %r % (name,)
130 setattr(base, name, value)
131 return base
name = 'make_value_from_form', base = class
'google.appengine.ext.db.Property', base.__dict__ = dictproxy object
at 0x018F0D50
type 'exceptions.AssertionError': Won't override attribute
'make_value_from_form'
args = (Won't override attribute 'make_value_from_form',)
message = Won't override attribute 'make_value_from_form'
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[google-appengine] Lost access to my app's Dashboard
I have an app on appspot (http://nowroll.appspot.com/) I haven't accessed in a while. But now when I click on dashboard in the appengine launcher, I get the appengine start page and it looks like I've never created an app. Weirdly I can still deploy changes to my app and edit the entry in the app gallery. Just when I go to teh dashboard I see no apps... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Imap and Google App engine
Hi, I don't beleive it is possible at all, you cannot make connection outside of port 80 and port 443. I need to use IMAP in http://www.twollo.com, at which point I host the client that interfaces with the IMAP server on my mac mini. Kind Regards, Paul Kinlan 2008/12/22 govno3...@gmail.com govno3...@gmail.com I'm doing some evaluation whether Google Appengine is appropriate for portion of project. However, I was unable to make imaplib working on Google App Engine. Is it possible to run IMAP on GAE? Also I was unable to make web.py working on - are there any pointers whether web.py works on Google Apple Engine? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SSL support - urllib2.HTTPSHandler() does not exist?
Appengine does not support urllib, instead use urlfetch http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/sandbox.html see http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/urlfetch/overview.html 2008/12/22 govno3...@gmail.com govno3...@gmail.com: Does python running inside appengine support SSL? I'm getting error that urllib2.HTTPSHandler() does not exist: AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'HTTPSHandler' So the question is: can app engine connect to outside world using SSL? -- Barry - www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Announcing: System Status Dashboard, Quota Details Page, and a Preview of Billing
I noticed in the new quotas page that number of requests is not adjustable. so no matter what, if a site gets a spike in traffic that is larger then the default request limit, it will be shutdown? this seems odd to me, althought maybe I really need to examine how large the cap is first cheers brian On Dec 21, 2:10 pm, Thomas Johansson prenc...@gmail.com wrote: The docs are fine, I was referring to the billing of the other quotas. Or will they rise proportionally to CPU usage, storage and bandwidth? - Thomas On Dec 21, 7:56 pm, Dan Sanderson dansander...@google.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Thomas Johansson prenc...@gmail.comwrote: Speaking of the billing, perhaps you can elaborate on the other quotas in place, like sending emails, urlfetch and so forth? The best sources of info on the quotas right now are the Quotas section of the Admin Console, and the new section in the documentation: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html The docs have the definitions, and the Console has the precise amounts for your application (the free levels) and how much your app has used in the past 24 hours. Please let me know if you have any further questions after looking at these pages, so we can improve the docs. -- Dan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: maximum number of versions
just wanted to reply to the group for future users. the app started working again about an hour after Marzia posted so I'm assuming he did somethign in the background cheers brian On Dec 18, 2:16 pm, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, Thanks for the info, I'm looking in to this now. If anyone else is experiencing this, please let me know. -Marzia On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:14 AM, bFlood bflood...@gmail.com wrote: I keep getting this error when publishing: Too Many Versions (403) The application already has the maximum number of versions when I checked the forum, the best advise was to up major version number which I did (from 1 to 2). This worked for about an hour and now I'm getting the same error again (and I can confirm that url's sent via appcfg.py have the proper 2 in the version). I doubt my version 2 has gone over the limit already so I'm thinking something else is wrong any suggestions? (besides going to V3) appID: dev-arc2earth cheers brian --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Frequent application reloading
It's very bad news for me... Loading modules take 0.5-0.7sec. This is serious shortcoming. On 22 дек, 16:50, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@googlemail.com wrote: Make your application so popular that it doesnt get unloaded ;) The other thing is to make sure your application is lightweight as possible, and doesnt load unneeded modules. With thousands(probably) of applications deployed even Google can't keep them all loaded permentantly - esp. when they are not in active use. Also remember AppEngine is a distributed system, having it loaded on one machine is only of limited value, next time could hit a different machine - or even different datacenter. 2008/12/22 some_developer tro...@gmail.com: Hi. All we know, that the first request after deploying application is very slow, because in this moment all modules must be loaded. Second request is much faster. But after some idle time (~1 minute) we have slow request again. I think WSGI server is unloads from memory after some timeout. Is this architectural necessity? What can I do with this problem? -- Barry -www.nearby.org.uk-www.geograph.org.uk- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
Hi, I took a good long read of this issue, and I can honestly see why it has not been starred up anymore. 1) From my point of view, there are lots of other priorities thatI would like to see implemented before this, which looking at it, I can mostly program my way around. 2) You used a lot of big words 3) You went on for too long 4) You really didn't make a case for it that most people can understand in short enough time 5) Most apps don't need this especially when you look at the current datastore transaction isolation levels, something exists or it doesn't, something updates or it doesn't, and most things can be done on a single entity basis. I am completly prepared to be shotdown and made fun of for my opinions. Kind Regards, Paul Kinlan 2008/12/21 Amir Michail amich...@gmail.com Hi, I must say I find it hard to imagine how most apps could be built without distributed transactions: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=313 Please vote this issue up if it affects your app! Amir --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: 1 application, multiple datastores
Are you ok with the constraint that a query can not be run across multiple data stores? If we can agree on that, then I'd say we are doing pretty well. I'm okay with that constraint. My point is that if the application has an admin console or an admin user, one can write a query that runs across multiple datastores by writing code that accesses said datastores through their admin consoles and/or users. No, such a query doesn't run in the application itself. However, a query in an application that validates the user, determines which datastore to use, and then runs all queries within that datastore also doesn't access multiple datastores even if it does use an API feature that could be used to access multiple datastores if said application were written differently. I still have no interest in running a query across multiple datastores and have never suggested otherwise. I'm trying understand why a feature that lets the application programmer determine which datastore to use is an unacceptable way to support one code base, customer-specific datastores if it's okay to have an admin console and/or applications that have an admin user. Yes, it's convenient to have google manage all login stuff, but that means that you don't have any control. If they're your customers On Dec 22, 4:25 am, hawkett hawk...@gmail.com wrote: You use the example of maintenance and fixes on behalf of customers - when would that require querying across two customer's data stores? I never said or implied that it did. Issue 106 proposes '...cross app queries using the db APIs only' - which to me means you can easily introduce a bug like the one originally posted - i.e. querying across two customer's data stores. Apologies if I understood your responses to be in support of this approach when they were not. Perhaps you could elaborate your use case in a little more detail. Are you ok with the constraint that a query can not be run across multiple data stores? If we can agree on that, then I'd say we are doing pretty well. For accessing another application's data store from your code, I would (and have) recommended exposing an API that you can access via HTTP. I believe this is what Google has suggested in this post http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/... which is quoted in Issue 106. If you do have a use case where you do want/need to run queries across customer data stores, then I would have that customer data in the same data store - i.e. what do you need the partition for in the first place? Unfortunately the idea of a data partition and an application partition are the same thing at the moment with GAE, so perhaps you need the partition for quota and billing purposes, which forces you to have separate data stores when you don't want them. In that case I would raise a feature request for multiple applications to be able to share a single data store - would this satisfy what you are trying to achieve? On Dec 22, 3:03 am, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm paraphrasing you. You've written repeatedly that a feature that allows an application to choose the datastore on which it operates can not be used for your purposes. The argument appears to be that an application that uses such a feature can theoretically access multiple datastores and is therefore unacceptable, even if that application is written so it validates the user and then chooses which datastore to access and only accesses one datastore after doing so. However, you're happy if a user's data can be accessed through a google admin console or via an admin user. The reason that I find that distinction strained is that GAE applications and the google admin console can be driven programmatically. As a result, one can easily write code using those facilities that simultaneously accesses multiple datastores, which is your reason for rejecting the choose which datastore to access feature. You use the example of maintenance and fixes on behalf of customers - when would that require querying across two customer's data stores? I never said or implied that it did. On Dec 21, 4:13 pm, hawkett hawk...@gmail.com wrote: Who are you quoting? The Google admin console should not be capable of querying across multiple customer data stores. I repeat - application code can not execute a query across multiple customer data stores - did I offer a distinction somewhere? Admin console *would* allow you to run queries against each of your customer data stores in isolation. I expect it would use a common, non-public, platform API (i.e. making data security part of the platform) to access the logical partitions. What is your use-case? You use the example of maintenance and fixes on behalf of customers - when would that require querying across two customer's data stores? It's a recipe for disaster. On
[google-appengine] Re: Server Error
Hi, If you post the error message and relevant code, we could help you troubleshoot why this error is occurring. -Marzia On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Grady grady...@gmail.com wrote: Marzia, Thanks for the tip, which helps me to understand the reason of server error, though I don't know why the code works well on my machine but doesn't on google. On Dec 20, 2:31 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, This could be a number of things, you can usually find the specific error by checking in your logs: http://appengine.google.com/logs?app_id=YOUR_APP_ID If you can't find anything in your logs that would indicate an issue with your application, you should check your app.yaml for typos or mis-configuration. Occasionally such things will work on the dev_appserver and not on App Engine. -Marzia On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 9:57 AM, Grady grady...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I got the following message after updating my application on Google App Engine, Error: Server Error The server encountered an error and could not complete your request. If the problem persists, please report your problem and mention this error message and the query that caused it. However, my application works well on my local machine (using SDK 1.1.7 and Python 2.6). Is there any way to find out the detail error message for debug on Google App Engine? Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: appcfg.py
Password characters are hidden (not shown oi display) for security purpose. Before asking this kind of questions try to hit Enter key. -- Alex http://sharp-developer.net/ On Dec 19, 8:36 pm, MAX maxho.mac...@gmail.com wrote: Decided to try Python. Start appcfg.py update c: \ helloworld \ Mail writing, it takes, write the password - even zero attention characters not imposed. What the ---? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Over Quota: Datastore Indices Count
Hi, If you reply to me with your app id, I will be able to fix this. -Marzia On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:40 PM, paptimus papti...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, GAE team. I encountered Your application is exceeding a quota: Datastore Indices Count on dashboard. The number of indeces is under 50, but one model has about 30 indeces. So I think this one is the point of over quota warning and vacuumed these indeces. Vacuume_index was completed and there is no index of that model. But the warging of over quota ramains over 24 hours and the status of a new index remains building. I hope you check my index and change the status to Error if my index has problems, please. Thanks. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Cannot create new application
Hi Miles, Is this affecting the account with which you are posting, or another account? If you let me know the email account I can look in to it. -Marzia On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 3:50 PM, mcrawfor miles.crawf...@gmail.com wrote: I should add - I already have the one original app that I collaborate on in my menu, and I can manage it just fine. I just can't create a new one. -miles On Dec 20, 3:41 pm, mcrawfor miles.crawf...@gmail.com wrote: I was listed as a developer on an existing application, so I signed in and SMS verified my account. Now I am trying to create my own application. When I click Create an Application I am brought again to the Verify your Account by SMS screen. However, when I type my phone number in, I am told The phone number has been sent too many messages or has already been used to confirm an account. Yes, I agree - my account! How can I get unstuck here and create an application? Thanks, -Miles --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Send and receive mail with embedded images
Hi, Feature requests can be filed here: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Daniel Levin danile...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff, First of all, thank! Last thing from this topic: Where should I submit my feature request? REGARDS! Daniel Levin On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote: Hi Daniel, It seems inline attachments with Content ID and MIME Multipart/Related Content is not supported in the current mail API, but I think it would be a good idea to file this as a feature request. Happy coding, Jeff On Dec 17, 1:55 pm, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote: Ah I see. I'm not sure how to do this using the App Engine mail API either, I'll ask around. Thank you, Jeff On Dec 17, 11:41 am, Daniel Levin danile...@gmail.com wrote: Alexander, Yes, I do refer to the that method (inline attachment using CID). I did it before with PHP without any problem, very easy. Now I want to migrate to Google App Engine, and I don't see how to implement that. Any idea? Regards, Daniel Levin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: error when trying to do an upload
Hi, Please see the bottom of this page for configuring App Engine uploads behind a proxy: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/appcfgpy.html -Marzia On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 8:00 PM, musenfox peixiaogu...@gmail.com wrote: what if when i use a proxy server? On Nov 27, 2:47 am, Thyako thy...@gmail.com wrote: I got this error once when my internet connection was down. It solved after I reconnected (in Ubuntu 8.10). ~Thiago On Nov 26, 11:52 am, davva da...@darmanin.com wrote: Anyone know whats causing this error message when i try and do an upload. D:\PROFILESappcfg.py update d:\googleapps\helloworld\ ( I enter my username and password twice here ) 2008-11-26 13:49:07,232 ERROR appcfg.py:1336 An unexpected error occurred. Aborting. Traceback (most recent call last): File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\appcfg.py, line 55, in module execfile(script_path, globals()) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1954, in module main(sys.argv) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1947, in main AppCfgApp(argv).Run() File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1524, in Run self.action.function(self) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1736, in Update lambda path: open(os.path.join(basepath, path), rb)) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1315, in DoUpload missing_files = self.Begin() File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 1176, in Begin version=self.version, payload=self.config.ToYAML()) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 282, in Send self._Authenticate() File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 321, in _Authenticate super(HttpRpcServer, self)._Authenticate() File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 261, in _Authenticate self._GetAuthCookie(auth_token) File C:\Program Files\Google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools \appcfg.py, line 203, in _GetAuthCookie response = self.opener.open(req) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 381, in open response = self._open(req, data) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 399, in _open '_open', req) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 360, in _call_chain result = func(*args) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 1107, in http_open return self.do_open(httplib.HTTPConnection, req) File D:\Python25\lib\urllib2.py, line 1082, in do_open raise URLError(err) urllib2.URLError: urlopen error (11001, 'getaddrinfo failed') --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Lost access to my app's Dashboard
Hi, This is an issue because the email you are using is both a Google Apps and Google Accounts account. You need to make sure that whenever you access the dashboard 1) You are signed out Google Accounts with this email address 2) You access the Admin Console at the URL appengine.google.com/a/YOURDOMAIN.COM -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Andrew.T. and...@tetlaw.id.au wrote: I have an app on appspot (http://nowroll.appspot.com/) I haven't accessed in a while. But now when I click on dashboard in the appengine launcher, I get the appengine start page and it looks like I've never created an app. Weirdly I can still deploy changes to my app and edit the entry in the app gallery. Just when I go to teh dashboard I see no apps... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Parent and Reference question
Is it OK to have both a Reference relationship and a Parent relationship between two objects? For example: I have a situation with an object Y, an object S, and a bunch of objects AR. All AR objects need to reference Y (to easily get all ARs relating to Y). Some of the AR objects belong the Y entity group (they are updated by one set of users in one context), while some of the AR objects belong to the S entity group (updated by another category of users in a different context). Is it OK to create AR entities where some have referenceproperty = y, and ancestor = y; and others where referenceproperty = y, and ancestor = s I'm assuming it is OK - but any time I encounter redundancy, I start getting paranoid... :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: get_by_key_name timeout!
Hi, I can't imagine that the datastore is timing out on a single get_by_key_name call, but I imagine that it is possible within the context of a request making multiple datastore calls, or a series of get_by_key_name calls, such as in a loop. What kind of things are going on in the rest of this request? -Marzia On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 4:10 PM, MajorProgamming sefira...@gmail.comwrote: 12-19 06:34PM 51.839 Traceback (most recent call last): File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/ __init__.py, line 498, in __call__ handler.get(*groups) File /base/data/home/apps/[edited out]/1.329827330674031168/ helloworld.py, line 96, in get curuser=CellPhones.get_by_key_name(n:+number) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/ __init__.py, line 837, in get_by_key_name return get(*keys) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/ __init__.py, line 1032, in get entities = datastore.Get(keys) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/ datastore.py, line 217, in Get raise _ToDatastoreError(err) File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/ datastore.py, line 1637, in _ToDatastoreError raise errors[err.application_error](err.error_detail) Timeout I understand that I get timeouts for put() operations, but what's the explanation for this one? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Parent and Reference question
Hi, There is no problem with this. Of course, you can always change/update a ReferenceProperty, but you can only set the parent of an entity upon creation of the entity. -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 9:37 AM, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote: Is it OK to have both a Reference relationship and a Parent relationship between two objects? For example: I have a situation with an object Y, an object S, and a bunch of objects AR. All AR objects need to reference Y (to easily get all ARs relating to Y). Some of the AR objects belong the Y entity group (they are updated by one set of users in one context), while some of the AR objects belong to the S entity group (updated by another category of users in a different context). Is it OK to create AR entities where some have referenceproperty = y, and ancestor = y; and others where referenceproperty = y, and ancestor = s I'm assuming it is OK - but any time I encounter redundancy, I start getting paranoid... :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Paul Kinlan paul.kin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I took a good long read of this issue, and I can honestly see why it has not been starred up anymore. 1) From my point of view, there are lots of other priorities thatI would like to see implemented before this, which looking at it, I can mostly program my way around. 2) You used a lot of big words 3) You went on for too long 4) You really didn't make a case for it that most people can understand in short enough time 5) Most apps don't need this especially when you look at the current datastore transaction isolation levels, something exists or it doesn't, something updates or it doesn't, and most things can be done on a single entity basis. I actually didn't make a single comment under that issue! Anyway, the problem is that if you have two entities that are not in a child-parent relationship, then you can't have a transaction that involves both. For example, you can't have a transaction involving two users of your app. So if a user performs an action that affects (e.g., the stats of) both, then you would have a problem in making sure that the stats are updated for both. This is a very fundamental flaw. I suspect that most GAE apps are incorrect due to this problem. Please vote up this issue. I realize that the GAE team would rather have someone implement an open source distributed transaction library for them. But I doubt this will happen any time soon. And even if it did, I would have more trust in an implementation by the GAE team anyway. Amir I am completly prepared to be shotdown and made fun of for my opinions. Kind Regards, Paul Kinlan 2008/12/21 Amir Michail amich...@gmail.com Hi, I must say I find it hard to imagine how most apps could be built without distributed transactions: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=313 Please vote this issue up if it affects your app! Amir -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: 1 application, multiple datastores
I'm okay with that constraint. My point is that if the application has an admin console or an admin user, one can write a query that runs across multiple datastores by writing code that accesses said datastores through their admin consoles and/or users. For the admin console, I'm saying you can only use this feature to run against each datastore in isolation. Pick the datastore, run the query. It's fair to say the admin console security model is another problem that GAE needs to sort out (e.g. http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=91), but I would hope that when it is sorted out, I can assign admin rights on different data stores to different users in my organisation. For the admin user option, I am expecting that the admin user is unique to each data store, not one admin user for all customers. The picture I am painting is that you administer your customer data instances individually, not as an aggregate. I want to be able to make a statement like this about my application running on GAE (note especially the data security section at the bottom) http://www.rallydev.com/products/deployment_solutions/security/ And I can't do that if administrators can run ad-hoc unsecured queries across customer data stores. (well, maybe they are secured, but only by your application code) And finally - I am looking for features that allow me to give my customers confidence, not erode it. Saying that their data is partitioned from other customer's achieves that goal. That doesn't mean their data is perfectly safe - there would be any number of other means by which their data could be exposed to their competitors, but I can guarantee them that they their business plan is not going to suddenly appear on the welcome screen of a competitor due to a bug in my application code. The cited bug is a perfect example of this sort of thing actually happening, and of a situation that would be closed off with effective data partitioning. Do you agree that the cited bug would not occur with strict data partitioning, and could occur if issue 106 was actioned? If you are looking for a distinction, then this is it. To be perfectly clear, I see this bug as an example of multiple customers having their data exposed to multiple other customers - this is not a bug that would occur by someone making a mistake in admin console (when you can only query customer datastores in isolation). It seems to me you are saying that if there is *any* mechanism that could compromise customer data, then why bother worrying about it? There is a *lot* of work for GAE to do to get to the point where an app on their infrastructure can make a claim like that - e.g. I can't believe only 6 people have starred this issue for example - http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=501 I suspect it is because people only look at the first page of issues - which completely debunks the idea that Google should be using stars in its issues list to prioritise its work schedule. On Dec 22, 4:47 pm, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote: Are you ok with the constraint that a query can not be run across multiple data stores? If we can agree on that, then I'd say we are doing pretty well. I'm okay with that constraint. My point is that if the application has an admin console or an admin user, one can write a query that runs across multiple datastores by writing code that accesses said datastores through their admin consoles and/or users. No, such a query doesn't run in the application itself. However, a query in an application that validates the user, determines which datastore to use, and then runs all queries within that datastore also doesn't access multiple datastores even if it does use an API feature that could be used to access multiple datastores if said application were written differently. I still have no interest in running a query across multiple datastores and have never suggested otherwise. I'm trying understand why a feature that lets the application programmer determine which datastore to use is an unacceptable way to support one code base, customer-specific datastores if it's okay to have an admin console and/or applications that have an admin user. Yes, it's convenient to have google manage all login stuff, but that means that you don't have any control. If they're your customers On Dec 22, 4:25 am, hawkett hawk...@gmail.com wrote: You use the example of maintenance and fixes on behalf of customers - when would that require querying across two customer's data stores? I never said or implied that it did. Issue 106 proposes '...cross app queries using the db APIs only' - which to me means you can easily introduce a bug like the one originally posted - i.e. querying across two customer's data stores. Apologies if I understood your responses to be in support of this approach when they were not. Perhaps you could elaborate your use case in
[google-appengine] 开发中实际问题的总结
我遇到了静态文件定义问题、通过代理上传的问题，字符集问题等，参看我的开发手记，http://gui-cn.appspot.com/ DevNotes.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] How to port an sqlite search query over to datastore objects?
Hi! I'm porting a php application over to App Engine and while everything else is rather trivial, I'm having trouble converting the search function. This is what I have as my query in php - http://utilitybase.com/paste/10419 It's a weighted search query for sqlite and it works very well. I'm having some trouble wrapping my head around datastore as it is (there are too few examples!), but so far it seems I would have to make several querys, and then combine the results.. nothing nowhere as concise as that one.. :/ Or have I overlooked something? I appreciate all hints, thank you! Hardi K. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How much time to give for each db query in order not to occur DeadlineExceededError
Hi, It's difficult to estimate the amount of time it takes to put() and delete() datastore entities because it depends a great deal on the size and shape of your entities. One thing you should do is call db.Put(entities) in one call, instead of multiple calls in one request to entity.put(). Also, you can't rely on the speed of the dev_appserver to be indicative of the speed on App Engine itself. The best advice I can give is, if you see the datastore is constantly timing out on a given request, reduce the number of entity updates in that request until you find the number that best fits your data. -Marzia On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Bob bobzs...@gmail.com wrote: Hi GAE team, how about the time for deleting? I think it would also encounter the DeadlineExceededError.. Thank you: On Dec 20, 11:52 pm, Bob bobzs...@gmail.com wrote: Too much db operations, it needs 10 seconds on my own computers to read the whole file to store in the datastore. But on the GAE, it occurs DeadlineExceededError. I gave 0.2 second for each db put(), it could work first but finally went wrong. I then gave 0.5 second and still could't solve the problem. How much time shall I give?? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to port an sqlite search query over to datastore objects?
Just because its one *sql query* - doesnt its one query against the database. All the 'unions' just run each query seperately and the combine the results. The only difference with AppEngine you need to implement the 'combine' or union in your application, rather than the database doing it for you. So while sqlite (or other SQL engines) may make it simple to implement, its not going to be able to make it *that much* more effienct that just running the queries seperatly. If you want the source to be 'consise' you could implement a function/class that does the seperate queries and combines them for you. Much like the datastore API does for 'or' queries - in the background really its a number of datastore queries. 2008/12/22 Hardi hardi.kovam...@gmail.com: Hi! I'm porting a php application over to App Engine and while everything else is rather trivial, I'm having trouble converting the search function. This is what I have as my query in php - http://utilitybase.com/paste/10419 It's a weighted search query for sqlite and it works very well. I'm having some trouble wrapping my head around datastore as it is (there are too few examples!), but so far it seems I would have to make several querys, and then combine the results.. nothing nowhere as concise as that one.. :/ Or have I overlooked something? I appreciate all hints, thank you! Hardi K. -- Barry - www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore API BUG?
I've seen similar issues. Here's the open case: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=901 /Siva On Dec 22, 2:07 am, K_Reverter kunhua...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody help me ? On Dec 21, 10:55 pm, K_Reverter kunhua...@gmail.com wrote: I found a Strange thing. When I query a GQL like this: SELECT * FROM RgeoData where Y=3000 The result of first row is like this: ID/Name Y areaId maxX minX 130520 3000 2054 8125 8113 But when I query a GQL like this: SELECT * FROM RgeoData where Y=3000 order by minX The result of first row is like this: ID/Name Y areaId maxX minX 130521 3000 2053 8237 8236 And I haven't found row(minX=8113) in all the result rows; Whe is the row(minX=8113),Is this a bug? PS: 1.This phenomenon is not accidental,It will always reappear; 2.After i upload data to system,I wrote a class to read the data,so GAE alto create index for data ,the current index status is :Y ▲ , minX ▲ Serving,All OK 3.All the four fields has the same type:int If you can read chinese,you can refer to my chinese blog article about this (There are 2 screenshots): http://www.cnblogs.com/step1/archive/2008/12/21/1359477.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: I have error why? please help
Hi,
My guess is that this is being caused because 'import' is generally a bad
name for a folder.
-Marzia
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 12:51 PM, aviza...@gmail.com aviza...@gmail.comwrote:
Well its simple issue and I cannot understand why it happens.
I have a py file in the root directory
with simple lines
print 'Content-Type: text/plain'
print ''
print 'Hello, world!'
the location is
- url: /
script: h.py
it works just fine (200)
now when I change the folder of the file and the app.yaml like this
- url: /
script: import/h.py
its works but In the log file I get:
INFO 2008-12-21 20:45:30,905 dev_appserver.py] GET /import/ HTTP/
1.1 200 -
ERROR2008-12-21 20:45:31,421 dev_appserver.py] Encountered error
loading mod
ule pages.h: type 'exceptions.ImportError': Could not find module
pages.h
Traceback (most recent call last):
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 1607, in LoadTargetModule
module_code = import_hook.get_code(module_fullname)
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 847, in decorate
return func(self, *args, **kwargs)
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 1470, in get_code
full_path, search_path, submodule = self.GetModuleInfo(fullname)
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 847, in decorate
return func(self, *args, **kwargs)
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 1422, in GetModuleInfo
submodule, search_path = self.GetParentSearchPath(fullname)
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 847, in decorate
return func(self, *args, **kwargs)
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 1401, in GetParentSearchPath
parent_package = self.GetParentPackage(fullname)
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 847, in decorate
return func(self, *args, **kwargs)
File c:\program Files\google\google_appengine\google\appengine\tools
\dev_apps
erver.py, line 1378, in GetParentPackage
raise ImportError('Could not find module %s' % fullname)
ImportError: Could not find module pages.h
WARNING 2008-12-21 20:45:31,467 dev_appserver.py] Missing package
initializatio
n files: C:\sites\wefi\financy\pages\__init__.py
INFO 2008-12-21 20:45:31,467 dev_appserver.py] GET /import/ HTTP/
1.1 200 -
why why why?
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[google-appengine] Re: unable to add 'www' subdomain for app engine service
Hi, This page is still mapped to the start page, you will need to eliminate this mapping before you can add the 'www' mapping to App Engine. This mapping can be found under 'Service Settings' 'Start Page' Web address'. -Marzia On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:50 PM, paradise hahag...@gmail.com wrote: I met the same problem now. My domain is www.3fan.us. I set it to http://partnerpage.google.com/3fan.us before, but now I've changed to http://start.3fan.us. After that, I can't make www.3fan.us point to any other site. Now I'd like to make www.3fan.us point to http://3fan- info.appspot.com, but failed to do that even I can map http:// 3fan.us perfectly. On Dec 9, 3:38 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi Josh, Can you reply to me with the specific domain? It sounds like you have done everything that should work, but without knowing the specific domain I can't check. One other course of action would be to see if you can assign the 'www' to some other service such as sites. If you can add and remove it from there, you may be able to add it to App Engine. -Marzia On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Josh Burley jbur...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having the same problem, but have not been able to fix it. Hittingwww.mydomain.comredirects to start.mydomain.com. start.mydomain.com does now appear to have a www mapping. I've tried adding it and removing it, and while it seems to add and remove the domain fine from the cpanel, it still redirects to start.mydomain.com. I've also tried disabling the Start page service, but it still does a redirect. Any other ideas? On Oct 12, 4:10 pm, ajablo adam.jablon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Marzia, it worked for me as well with the same variation as for Adam the 2nd ;-) The 'www' has finally found its proper place. Many, many thanks for your help. Greetings, Adam On Oct 11, 1:16 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, Can you follow the directions here: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/web/deleting-existing. .. To see if this helps? The common case seems like Google Sites is using 'www' whether or not Sites is enabled. -Marzia On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Adam Fisk adamf...@gmail.com wrote: littleshoot.org. I didn't realize it was awwwissue at first, but it definitely is. I'm able to add multiple other subdomains no problem. On Oct 9, 1:33 pm, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi Adam, With which domain are you experiencing this issue? -Marzia On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Adam Fisk adamf...@gmail.com wrote: I have the exact same problem. Any solutions? The unfortunately result is *my site is completely down.* This makes it virtually impossible to port awww.* site, which would account for, well, most of the sites on the Internet. -Adam On Oct 9, 11:13 am, ajablo adam.jablon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, the domain in question is probud.info At the very begining it returned a 404, but it seemed like it originated from google page creator team (???) Then I configured google sites (it was google pages before I guess) in my apps profile to use 'www' prefix and it worked perfectly for sites. What I did then was to change the sites prefix from 'www' to 'temp' (both in my domain's CNAME records) just to try if maybe this time my appengine's service will work under 'www', unfortunately it didn't. Any attempt to assign it to appengine service is simply ignored without any error message. Current status is: I disabled sites completely for my domain (prefix history for sites is 'www' - 'temp' - disabled), when I open bothwww.probud.infoandtemp.probud.infoIget'forbidden error 403' now. Assigning 'www' to my appengine service still fails. It seems like google has a big mess in there? Many thanks for your help, Adam On Oct 9, 6:57 pm, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, Can you please reply with the domain experiencing the issue? Also if you go towww.yourdomain.comanditdoesnotreturna 404, what is shown would indicate what service it's currently mapped to. -Marzia On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:31 AM, ajablo adam.jablon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, All my attempts to add 'www'subdomainto host my app as a AppEngine service in Google Apps fail silently. No error message. I can add any othersubdomain, like 'temp' or whatever with success. And I would like to assure
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore API BUG?
Hi, Yep, Siva has the right issue. Until this issue is fixed, if you call put() on the entities that are not showing up on the query, this should make them start appearing on results. -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Siva Velusamy siva.velus...@gmail.comwrote: I've seen similar issues. Here's the open case: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=901 /Siva On Dec 22, 2:07 am, K_Reverter kunhua...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody help me ? On Dec 21, 10:55 pm, K_Reverter kunhua...@gmail.com wrote: I found a Strange thing. When I query a GQL like this: SELECT * FROM RgeoData where Y=3000 The result of first row is like this: ID/Name Y areaId maxX minX 130520 3000 2054 8125 8113 But when I query a GQL like this: SELECT * FROM RgeoData where Y=3000 order by minX The result of first row is like this: ID/Name Y areaId maxX minX 130521 3000 2053 8237 8236 And I haven't found row(minX=8113) in all the result rows; Whe is the row(minX=8113),Is this a bug? PS: 1.This phenomenon is not accidental,It will always reappear; 2.After i upload data to system,I wrote a class to read the data,so GAE alto create index for data ,the current index status is :Y ▲ , minX ▲ Serving,All OK 3.All the four fields has the same type:int If you can read chinese,you can refer to my chinese blog article about this (There are 2 screenshots): http://www.cnblogs.com/step1/archive/2008/12/21/1359477.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Global Time Synchronisation Guarantees
Hi, Please see this thread: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/e263ed5bfc4f7efc/c2c2469ed9a31c7d Generally one would expect the clocks to be synced within a few seconds, but there are not any guarantees of any kind. -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:20 AM, rvjcallanan vinc...@callanan.ie wrote: I recall reading somewhere that, due to global time differences across servers, we cannot rely on timestamps to draw certain conclusions about GAE data e.g. operation sequence, etc. Time synchronisation is a critical issue in any distributed app yet I have been unable to get hard facts and figures on how well Google synchronises its servers globally. I assume some form of NTP syncing is performed so I would expect that steady state drift will be of the order of milliseconds across the globe. But what if a server is rebooted or added to the Google network? Will this server be disabled until it has reached a certain sync level. In a nutshell, a few questions... 1. How accurate are Google server clocks re: some global standard? 2. What is the maximum drift between servers? 3. Is tighter synchronisation guaranteed between servers in a local data centre servicing entity groups TIA, rvjcallanan --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
On Dec 22, 1:10 pm, Amir Michail amich...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very fundamental flaw. I suspect that most GAE apps are incorrect due to this problem. Please vote up this issue. I suspect that most GAE apps aren't coded on the assumption that BigTable is something it's not. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Datastore impossibly slow?
Hmm, I guess I could just leave it.
When displaying the data to the user I only show the last 20 records,
based on time. I read that the larger the datastore, the slower the
response time, so I tried to impliment some system to prune the data.
I guess I will just leave it!
Thanks for your help
Tom
On Dec 22, 2:10 pm, Matija matija.jerko...@gmail.com wrote:
I think that your approach is not suitable for use on app engine. You
will not be able to delete never more than few dozen. But instead of
deletion why don't you filter your data (where you use it) to get only
last week entries.
Of course there is question why are you storing something that has
value only for one week. Maybe some different approach in solving your
business problem.
On Dec 22, 2:05 pm, Tom sharpbla...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks Andrius, I will try to use the datetime module.
I tried beforehand, but I couldn't get it to work (For some reason),
so I reverted to use the time.time() function, which returned a float.
I also just tried using an integer rather than a float for the
time ,and it got slower...! - '13056ms-cpu'
Regards, and have a happy christmas,
Tom
On Dec 22, 10:31 am, Andrius andriu...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello Tom,
try to check index.yaml to see if index for for time property exists.
Why do you have float type property for the time? it would be more
efficient to use datetime or integer, because float is much heavier.
And try to query without maximum limit, because it will be applied by
default:
If more than 1000 entities match the query, and either no limit is
specified or a limit larger than 1000 is used, only the first 1000
results are returned by fetch().
Regards,
Andrius
On Dec 21, 11:17 pm, Tom sharpbla...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello!
I have some data within my application that I want to expire after 1
week. To do this every day I get the 'Scheduler Service' (http://
schedulerservice.appspot.com/) to run a GET request to a page on my
app. This then runs a GQL that finds any records over 1 week old, and
deletes them.
Seems simple? I did a test with 24 records, and it took (Apparently)
'10706ms-cpu' time. 10 seconds to sort through 24 records??
Here is the code:
class clearapicallback(webapp.RequestHandler):
def get(self):
self.response.out.write('secret_callback_auth_code')
# 1 week = 604800
request = db.GqlQuery('SELECT * FROM Database WHERE time :
1',time.time()-10).fetch(1000)
db.delete(request)
and the Database object:
class Database(db.Model):
pid = db.StringProperty()
uid = db.StringProperty()
sex = db.StringProperty()
qid = db.StringProperty()
qan = db.StringProperty()
anon = db.BooleanProperty()
time = db.FloatProperty()
My question is, why did it take 10 seconds!! It wasn't a fluke, other
requests have taken '17583ms-cpu' or more, with 23 records.
Can I make database records expire automatically (I don't want to use
memcache, unless it is good for storing data for a whole week)? And
how can I improve the performence?
I am expecting a lot more than 24 records to be deleted a day, and I
cant have it using that much CPU!
Regards
~Tom
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[google-appengine] Re: Datastore impossibly slow?
When displaying the data to the user I only show the last 20 records, based on time. I read that the larger the datastore, the slower the response time, so I tried to impliment some system to prune the data. This is only a limitation of the basic datastore implementation in the SDK, not in production. Good thing too, considering all entities for all apps, as well as their indexes, are stored in the same four bigtables. The backend your data sits in, serves and stores many, many millions of entities already. :) If you want to clear out stale data, run a handler that deletes for example 10 entities at a time, then returns whether or not it should be called again, and have your off-site cron call that url until it is done. That is about the best you can do for now, until we get background processing. Hope to help, Thomas --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: AssertionError: Won't override attribute 'make_value_from_form'
Hi,
Without knowing what code caused this error, it's a bit difficult to
specifically diagnose, but it seems that you might be trying to override an
existing method? The doc string gives some details as to the function that
is throwing this error:
def *monkey_patch*(name, bases, namespace):
A 'metaclass' for adding new methods to an existing class.
In this version, existing methods can't be overridden; this is by
design, to avoid accidents.
Usage example:
class PatchClass(TargetClass):
__metaclass__ = monkey_patch
def foo(self, ...): ...
def bar(self, ...): ...
This is equivalent to:
def foo(self, ...): ...
def bar(self, ...): ...
TargetClass.foo = foo
TargetClass.bar = bar
PatchClass = TargetClass
Note that PatchClass becomes an alias for TargetClass; by convention
it is recommended to give PatchClass the same name as TargetClass.
-Marzia
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 12:56 AM, yucc yucc2...@gmail.com wrote:
I've searched around with not solution,so can anyone tell me how to
fix this,thanks very much!
As there're to much output,I've put the error page on GoogleDoc:
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dck7n8r7_93cmvhs4fk
C:\Google\gae\google\appengine\ext\db\djangoforms.py in monkey_patch
(name='make_value_from_form', bases=(class
'google.appengine.ext.db.Property',), namespace={'__metaclass__':
function monkey_patch at 0x018FA130, '__module__':
'google.appengine.ext.db.djangoforms', 'get_form_field': function
get_form_field at 0x018FA1B0, 'get_value_for_form': function
get_value_for_form at 0x018FA2F0, 'make_value_from_form': function
make_value_from_form at 0x018FA0F0})
127 for name, value in namespace.iteritems():
128 if name not in ('__metaclass__', '__module__'):
129 assert name not in base.__dict__, Won't override
attribute %r % (name,)
130 setattr(base, name, value)
131 return base
name = 'make_value_from_form', base = class
'google.appengine.ext.db.Property', base.__dict__ = dictproxy object
at 0x018F0D50
type 'exceptions.AssertionError': Won't override attribute
'make_value_from_form'
args = (Won't override attribute 'make_value_from_form',)
message = Won't override attribute 'make_value_from_form'
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[google-appengine] Re: 1 application, multiple datastores
For the admin console, I'm saying you can only use this feature to run against each datastore in isolation. My point is that that's not true. If I have access to multiple admin consoles (for maintenance reasons), I can combine the results that I get from each of the consoles, effectively giving me the ability to query against multiple datastores. I can do this with a program that runs the admin consoles or I can do it by hand. And I can't do that if administrators can run ad-hoc unsecured queries across customer data stores. (well, maybe they are secured, but only by your application code) Since the console is application code Do you agree that the cited bug would not occur with strict data partitioning, and could occur if issue 106 was actioned? No, I don't agree. Even if we ignore the admin console hole, strict data partitioning is a fantasy in an environment where data lives on the same hardware. The google code for handling multiple datastores could go wonky. Or, their user login code could do the wrong thing. Since the risk of your login code doing the wrong thing is unacceptable, it's unclear why the risk of their code doing the wrong thing is any more acceptable. And finally - I am looking for features that allow me to give my customers confidence, not erode it. That's nice, but the feature in question doesn't affect the real security of your customer's data. If multiple customers have data on the same piece of hardware, some code has to manage the separation. If it's unacceptable for your code to do so It seems to me you are saying that if there is *any* mechanism that could compromise customer data, then why bother worrying about it? Not at all. I'm saying that if a given mechanism is an unacceptable risk under one name, it's an unacceptable risk under all names. I'm also saying that if you're putting in a screen door (admin consoles), it's somewhat silly to worry about weatherstripping said door. On Dec 22, 10:21 am, hawkett hawk...@gmail.com wrote: I'm okay with that constraint. My point is that if the application has an admin console or an admin user, one can write a query that runs across multiple datastores by writing code that accesses said datastores through their admin consoles and/or users. For the admin console, I'm saying you can only use this feature to run against each datastore in isolation. Pick the datastore, run the query. It's fair to say the admin console security model is another problem that GAE needs to sort out (e.g.http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=91), but I would hope that when it is sorted out, I can assign admin rights on different data stores to different users in my organisation. For the admin user option, I am expecting that the admin user is unique to each data store, not one admin user for all customers. The picture I am painting is that you administer your customer data instances individually, not as an aggregate. I want to be able to make a statement like this about my application running on GAE (note especially the data security section at the bottom) http://www.rallydev.com/products/deployment_solutions/security/ And I can't do that if administrators can run ad-hoc unsecured queries across customer data stores. (well, maybe they are secured, but only by your application code) And finally - I am looking for features that allow me to give my customers confidence, not erode it. Saying that their data is partitioned from other customer's achieves that goal. That doesn't mean their data is perfectly safe - there would be any number of other means by which their data could be exposed to their competitors, but I can guarantee them that they their business plan is not going to suddenly appear on the welcome screen of a competitor due to a bug in my application code. The cited bug is a perfect example of this sort of thing actually happening, and of a situation that would be closed off with effective data partitioning. Do you agree that the cited bug would not occur with strict data partitioning, and could occur if issue 106 was actioned? If you are looking for a distinction, then this is it. To be perfectly clear, I see this bug as an example of multiple customers having their data exposed to multiple other customers - this is not a bug that would occur by someone making a mistake in admin console (when you can only query customer datastores in isolation). It seems to me you are saying that if there is *any* mechanism that could compromise customer data, then why bother worrying about it? There is a *lot* of work for GAE to do to get to the point where an app on their infrastructure can make a claim like that - e.g. I can't believe only 6 people have starred this issue for example - http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=501 I suspect it is because people only look at the first page of issues - which completely
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 22, 1:10 pm, Amir Michail amich...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very fundamental flaw. I suspect that most GAE apps are incorrect due to this problem. Please vote up this issue. I suspect that most GAE apps aren't coded on the assumption that BigTable is something it's not. Who knows? Bugs of this type may only show up under high traffic, so it's easy to miss if you are not aware of the issues. Is there any particular reason why distributed transactions don't have a higher priority on the GAE TODO list? From what I understand, they can be implemented as a library without making any changes to the GAE. So maybe if you vote up this issue, the GAE team will consider writing such a library? Amir -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: ReferenceProperty proving slow, what path should we take?
this reply looks like spam On Dec 22, 4:50 am, hawkett hawk...@gmail.com wrote: Try using a dynamic tree control in your UI - e.g. http://www.smartclient.com/smartgwt/showcase/#tree_databinding_ondemand Load all your groups, and then whenever you expand a group node, make a separate query for the users of that group. On Dec 21, 7:35 am, ohadpr oha...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, i'm playing with appengine's data models and i've just hit a little bump in the road: my classes are Group and User, I have many groups and many users. a user can belong to a group, and so I've used a ReferenceProperty from the user to the group which gave me a set of users in the group for easy retrieval. now I have a page that wants to show all the groups (lets say 50 groups) and for each group the list of users in that group. If i just get the rooms and for each room iterate over the set-of- users, this generates a new query per each group and is very slow. what's the best way to handle this? * should i store the relation in a new entity, then query for all the groups, users and relationships, build some python dictionaries and reconstruct the whole thing in python? * should i denormalize the whole thing? how? i'd still want to group the whole thing by Group, should I do that with python dictionaries? thanks a bunch, ohad --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Use AppEngine on Vista x64
Hi, I've installed Python 2.5.2 and AppEngine 1.1.7 on Vista x64 Ultimate... (Admin user - NO UTC) both dev_appserver.py and appcfg.py gives me the help screen (Like no options were included) every single time.. Please help me help you help me ... What more information do you need --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
Hi, My whole argument was that I am pretty sure that you can solve the problems mentioned by thinking about the root of the transactions in a different way than the traditionaly update user a and user b. The thing that I like about GAE at the moment is that it has meant that I change the way I think about creating applications. The problem that a lot of new developers have with GAE (and I am not saying anyone in this conversation is new) is that they think about developing applications in a Relational DB style, which in my opinon is wrong. I honestly suspect, and this is what I was saying before, the reason why the item is not higher on the list, is that it isn't easy to read and understand that you may need it at a priority. Regards, Paul Kinlan 2008/12/22 Amir Michail amich...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 22, 1:10 pm, Amir Michail amich...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very fundamental flaw. I suspect that most GAE apps are incorrect due to this problem. Please vote up this issue. I suspect that most GAE apps aren't coded on the assumption that BigTable is something it's not. Who knows? Bugs of this type may only show up under high traffic, so it's easy to miss if you are not aware of the issues. Is there any particular reason why distributed transactions don't have a higher priority on the GAE TODO list? From what I understand, they can be implemented as a library without making any changes to the GAE. So maybe if you vote up this issue, the GAE team will consider writing such a library? Amir -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:08 PM, Paul Kinlan paul.kin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, My whole argument was that I am pretty sure that you can solve the problems mentioned by thinking about the root of the transactions in a different way than the traditionaly update user a and user b. You could put everything in the same entity group, but that would kill concurrency. Do you have any specific suggestions about the example I gave? Amir The thing that I like about GAE at the moment is that it has meant that I change the way I think about creating applications. The problem that a lot of new developers have with GAE (and I am not saying anyone in this conversation is new) is that they think about developing applications in a Relational DB style, which in my opinon is wrong. I honestly suspect, and this is what I was saying before, the reason why the item is not higher on the list, is that it isn't easy to read and understand that you may need it at a priority. Regards, Paul Kinlan 2008/12/22 Amir Michail amich...@gmail.com On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Geoffrey Spear geoffsp...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 22, 1:10 pm, Amir Michail amich...@gmail.com wrote: This is a very fundamental flaw. I suspect that most GAE apps are incorrect due to this problem. Please vote up this issue. I suspect that most GAE apps aren't coded on the assumption that BigTable is something it's not. Who knows? Bugs of this type may only show up under high traffic, so it's easy to miss if you are not aware of the issues. Is there any particular reason why distributed transactions don't have a higher priority on the GAE TODO list? From what I understand, they can be implemented as a library without making any changes to the GAE. So maybe if you vote up this issue, the GAE team will consider writing such a library? Amir -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Use AppEngine on Vista x64
Did you install x86 or amd64 python? On Dec 22, 2:58 pm, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've installed Python 2.5.2 and AppEngine 1.1.7 on Vista x64 Ultimate... (Admin user - NO UTC) both dev_appserver.py and appcfg.py gives me the help screen (Like no options were included) every single time.. Please help me help you help me ... What more information do you need --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
Is there any particular reason why distributed transactions don't have a higher priority on the GAE TODO list? What makes you think it should be higher priority? It is not in my opinion. Do you think a blog, todo list or caculator requires distributed transaction? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:23 PM, yejun yej...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any particular reason why distributed transactions don't have a higher priority on the GAE TODO list? What makes you think it should be higher priority? It is not in my opinion. Do you think a blog, todo list or caculator requires distributed transaction? Why would you want to limit GAE apps to those sorts of things? What about all those apps where there is an interaction between users? And just because you may have not run into this problem in your current app(s) doesn't mean that you will not soon run into it in your next app. Amir -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Reading app.yaml from App Engine -- possible?
I need to get to the app name at runtime when running on the
deployment environment.
I tried open('app.yaml').read() + a little regexp. Works locally, but
it can't find the file on the deployment environment.
Is it possible to read in app.yaml on deployment?
If not, is there a way to get at the app name?
Thanks,
Aral
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Why would you want to limit GAE apps to those sorts of things? What about all those apps where there is an interaction between users? Developers are still struggling to complete some simple tasks such as pageing through comments with current datastore API. Do you think it is necessary to have a luxury toilet while you were living in shelter? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Reading app.yaml from App Engine -- possible?
import os
os.environ.get('APPLICATION_ID')
On Dec 22, 4:09 pm, Aral a...@aralbalkan.com wrote:
I need to get to the app name at runtime when running on the
deployment environment.
I tried open('app.yaml').read() + a little regexp. Works locally, but
it can't find the file on the deployment environment.
Is it possible to read in app.yaml on deployment?
If not, is there a way to get at the app name?
Thanks,
Aral
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[google-appengine] Re: 1 application, multiple datastores
No, I don't agree. Even if we ignore the admin console hole, strict data partitioning is a fantasy in an environment where data lives on the same hardware. The google code for handling multiple datastores could go wonky. Or, their user login code could do the wrong thing. I think you are making a number of mistakes - 1. Believing that the risk profile of platform code is the same as your application code (and the 1000's of other developers that roll their own data security solution because it isn't part of the platform). If Google offers it as part of the platform, then it has been tested by those 1000's of developers, by their customers and by Google as a major part of a strategic platform offering by a company with enormous resources. You state - 'Since the risk of your login code doing the wrong thing is unacceptable, it's unclear why the risk of their code doing the wrong thing is any more acceptable' - it is *absolutely* clear that the risks are not even in the same ballpark. 2. Not seeing it from the customer's perspective. What they see is that every app on GAE is a roll your own data security effort - what a nightmare - how are they to tell which app was written well and which wasn't? How would they even begin to assess the risk profile - do they have to audit your company's development practices? If Google offers it as part of the platform the customer knows that every app shares the same implementation, and (assuming you agree with the first point) a far less risky one. Maybe you can write more or equally stable code than Google, but the customer has know way of knowing that - I'll bet you that 100% of customer's that approach you for the first time would rather hear that data security is supplied as part of the Google platform than by your application code and not because that's nice - but because this feature *does* affect the real security of their data. 3. Thinking strict data partitioning is a fantasy in an environment where data lives on the same hardware. I did say strict, not physical. I think you are missing the value of the software platform again - it is not the same thing as application code that runs on the platform. You appear to be making a simple distinction between hardware and software. The application platform is inherently more robust than your application code. In fact, given that Google already have a data partitioning mechanism for applications, I wouldn't be surprised if it was even lower level than the GAE platform, and part of the BigTable implementation. That would make it even more robust than the GAE platform code. Which is ludicrously robust compared to your application code. 4. Thinking risk reduction is not valuable unless it results in total risk removal. Security is all about the management and mitigation of risk - not necessarily the removal of it. Remove it if you can, obviously - but generally this is an unlikely outcome. We've identified three threats (admin console error, external app doing admin, bug in application code) - and you are saying that unless we remove the first two, why remove the third. It's false logic, and poor security. 5. Confusing a admin error or malicious attack with a software bug. You state - My point is that that's not true. If I have access to multiple admin consoles (for maintenance reasons), I can combine the results that I get from each of the consoles, effectively giving me the ability to query against multiple datastores. I can do this with a program that 'runs' the admin consoles or I can do it by hand. Can you point me to the admin console API you'd use to 'run' it via a program - or are you talking about screen scraping? Both situations are totally different scenarios, and risk profiles, to being able to introduce a bug into your application code that exposes customer data. 6. Thinking that with strict data partitioning you *will* be able to introduce a bug into *your* application code that exposes multiple customers data to multiple other customers via the Datastore API. And this is the key - from the customer's perspective - yes they have to worry about an admin error, or some secondary application you might write, or a malicious attack, or a defect in the platform code, or a disgruntled employee - but they don't have to worry about the application code they use every day, and that is one of their biggest risk points eliminated - the largest part of your company offering. Security is about risk mitigation and management. If you still disagree, can you please explain to me how the bug would manifest in your application code (I'm talking about code that runs on GAE, with strict data partitioning). In the end, I think it all comes down to point 1, and an understanding that software security is all about risk mitigation and management. Control what you can, have contingency for what you can't. If you agree with point 1, then you understand my position. If you don't agree with point
[google-appengine] use stored string key to get an entity
Hi this is the issue I have a Transaction model I do: transaction=Transaction() transaction.put() tr_key = str(transaction.key()) I want to store it in a second mode class Tag(db.Model): transaction = db.Key(encoded=None) tag = db.StringProperty(required=True) user = db.UserProperty(required=True) I do: tag = Tag(transaction=tr_key,) tag.put() later on in the application I retrieve the tag entity and I want to get the transaction back I do: tr_key = tag.transaction transaction = Transaction.get(tr_key) and I get an error message: BadKeyError: Key datastore_types.Key.from_path(_app=u'') is not complete. Every help or example is very appreciated. Thanks, Shay --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:09 PM, yejun yej...@gmail.com wrote: Why would you want to limit GAE apps to those sorts of things? What about all those apps where there is an interaction between users? Developers are still struggling to complete some simple tasks such as pageing through comments with current datastore API. Do you think it is necessary to have a luxury toilet while you were living in shelter? Distributed transactions will vastly simplify your life when you need them. It's all about making programming easier. As for paging, it would be nice to have a library for that as well. But since writing paging code yourself is much easier than distributed transactions, a distributed transaction library would take priority over a paging library. Amir -- http://readmytweets.com http://chatbotgame.com http://numbrosia.com http://twitter.com/amichail --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Bug in starting app
Is it a false positive in the Check Availability widget, or in the validator on creation of the app (technically false negative). I am having the same issue as niek. On Dec 19, 9:38 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi Niek, Thanks for reporting this issue. It is indeed a problem with the validate function which seems to be a false positive, saying this is available when it is not. -Marzia On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:46 AM, niek nieko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, when I try to create an application, I get a strange error. I go tohttp://appengine.google.com/start. After authentication by mobile phone has been successful, I get to choose an Application Identifier, in my case z00maa. When I push 'check availability' the system tells me 'Yes, z00maa is available!' After a short period of euphoria, I provide an application title Zoomaa, then I push the save-button. One would assume that the application id is successfully registered, but I get the following message: Already Exists This application ID or version is already in use. First I assumed a problem with the browser, but after trying Opera, Safari and Firefox for Mac Os X 10.4.11, build 8S2167, the page is refusing to register. Google, there's a problem! Regards, niek --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Bug in starting app
The app id is validated as available in the 'Check Availability' function, but it is not actually available. If you are getting that message when clicking the 'Create App' button, it definitely means that app id is not available. -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 1:17 PM, SkiSulli skisu...@gmail.com wrote: Is it a false positive in the Check Availability widget, or in the validator on creation of the app (technically false negative). I am having the same issue as niek. On Dec 19, 9:38 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi Niek, Thanks for reporting this issue. It is indeed a problem with the validate function which seems to be a false positive, saying this is available when it is not. -Marzia On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 8:46 AM, niek nieko...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, when I try to create an application, I get a strange error. I go tohttp://appengine.google.com/start. After authentication by mobile phone has been successful, I get to choose an Application Identifier, in my case z00maa. When I push 'check availability' the system tells me 'Yes, z00maa is available!' After a short period of euphoria, I provide an application title Zoomaa, then I push the save-button. One would assume that the application id is successfully registered, but I get the following message: Already Exists This application ID or version is already in use. First I assumed a problem with the browser, but after trying Opera, Safari and Firefox for Mac Os X 10.4.11, build 8S2167, the page is refusing to register. Google, there's a problem! Regards, niek --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: use stored string key to get an entity
Hi Shay! Did you try to use ReferenceProperty? transaction = db.ReferenceProperty(Transaction) Best Regards, Jesaja Everling On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Shay Ben Dov shay.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Hi this is the issue I have a Transaction model I do: transaction=Transaction() transaction.put() tr_key = str(transaction.key()) I want to store it in a second mode class Tag(db.Model): transaction = db.Key(encoded=None) tag = db.StringProperty(required=True) user = db.UserProperty(required=True) I do: tag = Tag(transaction=tr_key,) tag.put() later on in the application I retrieve the tag entity and I want to get the transaction back I do: tr_key = tag.transaction transaction = Transaction.get(tr_key) and I get an error message: BadKeyError: Key datastore_types.Key.from_path(_app=u'') is not complete. Every help or example is very appreciated. Thanks, Shay --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Use AppEngine on Vista x64
Hey, I'm on Intel Core 2 Duo, so I've installed the x86... On Dec 22, 10:26 pm, yejun yej...@gmail.com wrote: Did you install x86 or amd64 python? On Dec 22, 2:58 pm, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've installed Python 2.5.2 and AppEngine 1.1.7 on Vista x64 Ultimate... (Admin user - NO UTC) both dev_appserver.py and appcfg.py gives me the help screen (Like no options were included) every single time.. Please help me help you help me ... What more information do you need --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: use stored string key to get an entity
Key to str conversion is not revertible. On Dec 22, 5:09 pm, Shay Ben Dov shay.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Hi this is the issue I have a Transaction model I do: transaction=Transaction() transaction.put() tr_key = str(transaction.key()) I want to store it in a second mode class Tag(db.Model): transaction = db.Key(encoded=None) tag = db.StringProperty(required=True) user = db.UserProperty(required=True) I do: tag = Tag(transaction=tr_key,) tag.put() later on in the application I retrieve the tag entity and I want to get the transaction back I do: tr_key = tag.transaction transaction = Transaction.get(tr_key) and I get an error message: BadKeyError: Key datastore_types.Key.from_path(_app=u'') is not complete. Every help or example is very appreciated. Thanks, Shay --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Use AppEngine on Vista x64
I have no problem with x86 version. I have both python and sdk add to system path during installation. On Dec 22, 5:29 pm, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'm on Intel Core 2 Duo, so I've installed the x86... On Dec 22, 10:26 pm, yejun yej...@gmail.com wrote: Did you install x86 or amd64 python? On Dec 22, 2:58 pm, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've installed Python 2.5.2 and AppEngine 1.1.7 on Vista x64 Ultimate... (Admin user - NO UTC) both dev_appserver.py and appcfg.py gives me the help screen (Like no options were included) every single time.. Please help me help you help me ... What more information do you need --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Use AppEngine on Vista x64
I'm not sure it's the python that is making the problem, because for instance I'm in c:\apps c:\appsdev_appserver.py helloworld (helloworld is a folder in c:\apps that contains the app.yaml file) and it still brings me the dev_appserver.py printout (same as help) and saying the Invalid arguments... yejun wrote: I have no problem with x86 version. I have both python and sdk add to system path during installation. On Dec 22, 5:29�pm, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'm on Intel Core 2 Duo, so I've installed the x86... On Dec 22, 10:26�pm, yejun yej...@gmail.com wrote: Did you install x86 or amd64 python? On Dec 22, 2:58�pm, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've installed Python 2.5.2 and AppEngine 1.1.7 on Vista x64 Ultimate... (Admin user - NO UTC) both dev_appserver.py and appcfg.py gives me the help screen (Like no options were included) every single time.. Please help me help you help me ... What more information do you need --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Send and receive mail with embedded images
Daniel, please post here the link when you submit it, I will definitely star the issue. On Dec 23, 4:13 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, Feature requests can be filed here:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/list -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Daniel Levin danile...@gmail.com wrote: Jeff, First of all, thank! Last thing from this topic: Where should I submit my feature request? REGARDS! Daniel Levin On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 5:59 PM, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote: Hi Daniel, It seems inline attachments with Content ID and MIME Multipart/Related Content is not supported in the current mail API, but I think it would be a good idea to file this as a feature request. Happy coding, Jeff On Dec 17, 1:55 pm, Jeff S j...@google.com wrote: Ah I see. I'm not sure how to do this using the App Engine mail API either, I'll ask around. Thank you, Jeff On Dec 17, 11:41 am, Daniel Levin danile...@gmail.com wrote: Alexander, Yes, I do refer to the that method (inline attachment using CID). I did it before with PHP without any problem, very easy. Now I want to migrate to Google App Engine, and I don't see how to implement that. Any idea? Regards, Daniel Levin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Lost access to my app's Dashboard
Marzia, this issue comes up at least a few times a week. Would it be possible for the dashboard to detect what kind of account is used and either redirect to appengine.google.com/a/YOURDOMAIN.COM or just warn the user if it's a Google Apps email? That message on the bottom of the sign in page is very hard to notice. Thanks! Alex On Dec 23, 4:20 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, This is an issue because the email you are using is both a Google Apps and Google Accounts account. You need to make sure that whenever you access the dashboard 1) You are signed out Google Accounts with this email address 2) You access the Admin Console at the URL appengine.google.com/a/YOURDOMAIN.COM -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Andrew.T. and...@tetlaw.id.au wrote: I have an app on appspot (http://nowroll.appspot.com/) I haven't accessed in a while. But now when I click on dashboard in the appengine launcher, I get the appengine start page and it looks like I've never created an app. Weirdly I can still deploy changes to my app and edit the entry in the app gallery. Just when I go to teh dashboard I see no apps... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Problem: Mobile Authentication Code not received
http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/sms.html On Dec 23, 2:55 am, Sunil Bishnoi bishnoi.su...@gmail.com wrote: I was to registering my self to use Google app engine. But i haven't received any mobile authentication code on my mobile. Any solution for this problem. Thanks Regards Sunil Bishnoi --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Filtering Using the IN Keyword
Query.filter() does not support the 'IN' operator:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/queryclass.html#Query_filter
You need to use GQL if you want to have 'IN' in your queries.
On Dec 23, 6:51 am, Chris chriss...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you use the IN keyword? The datastore query API makes a few
mentions of it, but there are no examples. I thought it would allow
you to filter using a list, but a simple query like this fails with
the error Filtering on lists is not supported:
from main.models import User
q=User.all()
q.filter('username IN',['bob','joe','steve'])
results = q.fetch(10)
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[google-appengine] Re: Your app is probably incorrect! [vote up issue 313].
I just took a look at the app gallery with this question in mind, and noticed that most of the apps there are too simple (from a transactional point of view) to need multiple entity group transactions. It's not fair to say that most apps are wrong without a few examples of ones that at least appear to be wrong. Of course, I didn't see any fancy features like the ranking points for games that you mentioned, or any kind of persistent user data that could interact with other user data (like transferring money) I am however interested in a solution to this problem because I would like to offer such features in my apps. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Lost access to my app's Dashboard
Hi Alex, The team has been working on a fix for this. But for reasons I'm not completely sure I understand, it ends up being a more difficult issue to fix than it appears. Please know that it is on our radar. -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Alexander Kojevnikov alexan...@kojevnikov.com wrote: Marzia, this issue comes up at least a few times a week. Would it be possible for the dashboard to detect what kind of account is used and either redirect to appengine.google.com/a/YOURDOMAIN.COM or just warn the user if it's a Google Apps email? That message on the bottom of the sign in page is very hard to notice. Thanks! Alex On Dec 23, 4:20 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, This is an issue because the email you are using is both a Google Apps and Google Accounts account. You need to make sure that whenever you access the dashboard 1) You are signed out Google Accounts with this email address 2) You access the Admin Console at the URL appengine.google.com/a/YOURDOMAIN.COM -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Andrew.T. and...@tetlaw.id.au wrote: I have an app on appspot (http://nowroll.appspot.com/) I haven't accessed in a while. But now when I click on dashboard in the appengine launcher, I get the appengine start page and it looks like I've never created an app. Weirdly I can still deploy changes to my app and edit the entry in the app gallery. Just when I go to teh dashboard I see no apps... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Lost access to my app's Dashboard
Thank you Marzia! On Dec 23, 10:55 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi Alex, The team has been working on a fix for this. But for reasons I'm not completely sure I understand, it ends up being a more difficult issue to fix than it appears. Please know that it is on our radar. -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:36 PM, Alexander Kojevnikov alexan...@kojevnikov.com wrote: Marzia, this issue comes up at least a few times a week. Would it be possible for the dashboard to detect what kind of account is used and either redirect to appengine.google.com/a/YOURDOMAIN.COM or just warn the user if it's a Google Apps email? That message on the bottom of the sign in page is very hard to notice. Thanks! Alex On Dec 23, 4:20 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, This is an issue because the email you are using is both a Google Apps and Google Accounts account. You need to make sure that whenever you access the dashboard 1) You are signed out Google Accounts with this email address 2) You access the Admin Console at the URL appengine.google.com/a/YOURDOMAIN.COM -Marzia On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Andrew.T. and...@tetlaw.id.au wrote: I have an app on appspot (http://nowroll.appspot.com/) I haven't accessed in a while. But now when I click on dashboard in the appengine launcher, I get the appengine start page and it looks like I've never created an app. Weirdly I can still deploy changes to my app and edit the entry in the app gallery. Just when I go to teh dashboard I see no apps... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: zipimport support for .pyc files: is it an official feature of standard Python?
Yup, it looks as though the docs for the Python zipimport now include the .pyc feature. Great! More importantly to App Engine users, though, .pyc files in zips are not supported by App Engine's implementation of zipimport. dev_appserver will use Python's zipimport, so when preparing your zips, be careful to include all .py files so that your zips will work both in dev and on App Engine. -- Dan On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Alexander Konovalenko alex...@gmail.comwrote: The Using Django 1.0 on App Engine with Zipimport article by Dan Sanderson [1] calls the support for .pyc files an undocumented feature of the standard zipimport implementation. On the other hand, the module's documentation for Python 2.5.3 [2] mentions .pyc files along with .py files everywhere and thus suggests that they are equally supported by zipimport. Here are some relevant quotations: This module adds the ability to import Python modules (*.py, *.py [co]) and packages from ZIP-format archives. Any files may be present in the ZIP archive, but only files .py and .py[co] are available for import. ZIP import of dynamic modules (.pyd, .so) is disallowed. Note that if an archive only contains .py files, Python will not attempt to modify the archive by adding the corresponding .pyc or .pyo file, meaning that if a ZIP archive doesn't contain .pyc files, importing may be rather slow. Looks like that feature was still undocumented when the article was originally written. Should the article be corrected to call it a feature that is currently missing from the App Engine implementation of zipimport? Or do I misunderstand something? [1] http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/django10_zipimport.html [2] http://www.python.org/doc/2.5.3/lib/module-zipimport.html --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Paging vs. crawlers
I think you'll find that any good search engine will be able to cope just fine with that. The best solution, though, is to implement a permalink-like setup, and encourage people to use permalinks when they link to your application's content. Thanks Dave! Unfortunately search engines don't cope with that very well. Permalinks would work great, but what exactly is a permalink for paged content? That's right, the page number! And it's something that's currently impossible to implement on appengine. I think I didn't explain the problem very well, here's an example to make it easier to understand: Let's say we want to page through blog comments, ordered by the comment_id DESC. If we have 10 comments with ids ranging from 1 to 10 and want to show 5 comments per page, we end up with two pages: Page 1: Comment 10 ... Comment 6 Next page link: /comments?next=6 Page 2: Comment 5 ... Comment 1 Page 2 will take the next parameter and use a query like this for fetch the comments: SELECT * FROM Comment WHERE comment_id :id ORDER BY comment_id DESC LIMIT 5 At this point, search engines will index two pages: /comments /comments?next=6 OK, now the user adds a comment with id 11, the pages now will look like this: Page 1: Comment 11 ... Comment 7 Next page link: /comments?next=7 Page 2: Comment 6 ... Comment 2 Next page link: /comments?next=2 Page 3: Comment 1 Do you see the problem? For each comment added, search engines will pick up a new URL. Eventually there will be as many URLs in the index as there are comments (more or less, depending on how fast the users post comments and how often search engines crawl the website). In theory, those phantom URLs should be eliminated by search engines because they are orphans, that is no other pages on the website link to them. But in practice it takes awhile for search engines to remove such pages from the index. And while they wait, they can become non- orphans again (e.g. after each 5 comments posted). Does anyone have a solution for this? Thanks! Alex --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Use AppEngine on Vista x64
I have no problems running the SDK on Vista x64 with Python 2.5.2 x64. To troubleshot the problem, you can insert print/assert statements into the appcfg.py/dev_appserver.py to see which execution path is taken. On Dec 23, 9:36 am, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure it's the python that is making the problem, because for instance I'm in c:\apps c:\appsdev_appserver.py helloworld (helloworld is a folder in c:\apps that contains the app.yaml file) and it still brings me the dev_appserver.py printout (same as help) and saying the Invalid arguments... yejun wrote: I have no problem with x86 version. I have both python and sdk add to system path during installation. On Dec 22, 5:29 pm, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hey, I'm on Intel Core 2 Duo, so I've installed the x86... On Dec 22, 10:26 pm, yejun yej...@gmail.com wrote: Did you install x86 or amd64 python? On Dec 22, 2:58 pm, Chen Harel chook.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've installed Python 2.5.2 and AppEngine 1.1.7 on Vista x64 Ultimate... (Admin user - NO UTC) both dev_appserver.py and appcfg.py gives me the help screen (Like no options were included) every single time.. Please help me help you help me ... What more information do you need --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: use stored string key to get an entity
In your module definition you should use a property class, that is instead of: class Tag(db.Model): transaction = db.Key(encoded=None) ... you should use: class Tag(db.Model): transaction = db.StringProperty(required=True) ... ...if you want to store the string representation of the key. Or: class Tag(db.Model): transaction = db.ReferenceProperty(Transaction, required=True) ... ...if you want to store the key itself. In the former case you should use this code: tag = Tag(transaction=str(transaction.key()), ...) tag.put() # tag.transaction is a string, need to construct the key from it tr_key = db.Key(tag.transaction) transaction = Transaction.get(tr_key) And in the latter case: tag = Tag(transaction=transaction, ...) tag.put() # tag.transaction is automatically de-referenced transaction = tag.transaction Hope this helps. Alex -- www.muspy.com On Dec 23, 9:09 am, Shay Ben Dov shay.ben...@gmail.com wrote: Hi this is the issue I have a Transaction model I do: transaction=Transaction() transaction.put() tr_key = str(transaction.key()) I want to store it in a second mode class Tag(db.Model): transaction = db.Key(encoded=None) tag = db.StringProperty(required=True) user = db.UserProperty(required=True) I do: tag = Tag(transaction=tr_key,) tag.put() later on in the application I retrieve the tag entity and I want to get the transaction back I do: tr_key = tag.transaction transaction = Transaction.get(tr_key) and I get an error message: BadKeyError: Key datastore_types.Key.from_path(_app=u'') is not complete. Every help or example is very appreciated. Thanks, Shay --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] custom domain problems
Hi, I've a app running with a custom domain and I can't access it anymore using the domain. Apparently, the ownership verification has failed and I can't access the control panel anymore via https://www.google.com/a/cpanel/cruzainhas.com.br neither add it again, as it says that This domain has been registered and is in the process of ownership verification. If you believe this registration was unauthorized, please have your domain administrator contact Google support. Could someone at google take a look? My app id is: cruzadinhasbr Thanks in advance, Tiago --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: unable to add 'www' subdomain for app engine service
Hi, Marzia, Thanks for your messages. I made two screenshot to show you what my domain setting happen. This is the cpanel Dashboard: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/136310/googleapp2008-12-23_105906.png And this is the start page url setting: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/136310/googleapp2008-12-23_110021.png Can you give me any idea how to delete www.3fan.us from start page? B. Rgds. paradise On Dec 23, 2:51 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, This page is still mapped to the start page, you will need to eliminate this mapping before you can add the 'www' mapping to App Engine. This mapping can be found under 'Service Settings' 'Start Page' Web address'. -Marzia On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 10:50 PM, paradise hahag...@gmail.com wrote: I met the same problem now. My domain iswww.3fan.us. I set it to http://partnerpage.google.com/3fan.usbefore, but now I've changed to http://start.3fan.us. After that, I can't makewww.3fan.uspoint to any other site. Now I'd like to make www.3fan.us point to http://3fan- info.appspot.com, but failed to do that even I can map http:// 3fan.us perfectly. On Dec 9, 3:38 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi Josh, Can you reply to me with the specific domain? It sounds like you have done everything that should work, but without knowing the specific domain I can't check. One other course of action would be to see if you can assign the 'www' to some other service such as sites. If you can add and remove it from there, you may be able to add it to App Engine. -Marzia On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Josh Burley jbur...@gmail.com wrote: I'm having the same problem, but have not been able to fix it. Hittingwww.mydomain.comredirectsto start.mydomain.com. start.mydomain.com does now appear to have a www mapping. I've tried adding it and removing it, and while it seems to add and remove the domain fine from the cpanel, it still redirects to start.mydomain.com. I've also tried disabling the Start page service, but it still does a redirect. Any other ideas? On Oct 12, 4:10 pm, ajablo adam.jablon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Marzia, it worked for me as well with the same variation as for Adam the 2nd ;-) The 'www' has finally found its proper place. Many, many thanks for your help. Greetings, Adam On Oct 11, 1:16 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, Can you follow the directions here: http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine/web/deleting-existing. .. To see if this helps? The common case seems like Google Sites is using 'www' whether or not Sites is enabled. -Marzia On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 5:55 PM, Adam Fisk adamf...@gmail.com wrote: littleshoot.org. I didn't realize it was awwwissue at first, but it definitely is. I'm able to add multiple other subdomains no problem. On Oct 9, 1:33 pm, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi Adam, With which domain are you experiencing this issue? -Marzia On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Adam Fisk adamf...@gmail.com wrote: I have the exact same problem. Any solutions? The unfortunately result is *my site is completely down.* This makes it virtually impossible to port awww.* site, which would account for, well, most of the sites on the Internet. -Adam On Oct 9, 11:13 am, ajablo adam.jablon...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, the domain in question is probud.info At the very begining it returned a 404, but it seemed like it originated from google page creator team (???) Then I configured google sites (it was google pages before I guess) in my apps profile to use 'www' prefix and it worked perfectly for sites. What I did then was to change the sites prefix from 'www' to 'temp' (both in my domain's CNAME records) just to try if maybe this time my appengine's service will work under 'www', unfortunately it didn't. Any attempt to assign it to appengine service is simply ignored without any error message. Current status is: I disabled sites completely for my domain (prefix history for sites is 'www' - 'temp' - disabled), when I open bothwww.probud.infoandtemp.probud.infoIget'forbiddenerror 403' now. Assigning 'www' to my appengine service still fails. It seems like google has a big mess in there? Many thanks for your help, Adam On Oct 9, 6:57 pm, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote: Hi, Can you please reply with the domain experiencing the issue? Also if you go towww.yourdomain.comanditdoesnotreturna404,
[google-appengine] Re: Announcing: System Status Dashboard, Quota Details Page, and a Preview of Billing
Hi Thomas--this is correct. The quotas not marked as adjustable will be raised considerably when Billing is released. Pete On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Thomas Johansson prenc...@gmail.comwrote: It's 1.3 million currently, meaning about 15.42 req/s for the *entire* day. It's been growing over time though. I believe the hard limit until very recently was 650.000. My guess is that the request limit and a lot of other quotas will get adjusted based on the payable ones. The request limit for example will probably rise with bandwidth allotment. On Dec 22, 4:34 pm, bFlood bflood...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed in the new quotas page that number of requests is not adjustable. so no matter what, if a site gets a spike in traffic that is larger then the default request limit, it will be shutdown? this seems odd to me, althought maybe I really need to examine how large the cap is first cheers brian On Dec 21, 2:10 pm, Thomas Johansson prenc...@gmail.com wrote: The docs are fine, I was referring to the billing of the other quotas. Or will they rise proportionally to CPU usage, storage and bandwidth? - Thomas On Dec 21, 7:56 pm, Dan Sanderson dansander...@google.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 11:06 PM, Thomas Johansson prenc...@gmail.comwrote: Speaking of the billing, perhaps you can elaborate on the other quotas in place, like sending emails, urlfetch and so forth? The best sources of info on the quotas right now are the Quotas section of the Admin Console, and the new section in the documentation: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/quotas.html The docs have the definitions, and the Console has the precise amounts for your application (the free levels) and how much your app has used in the past 24 hours. Please let me know if you have any further questions after looking at these pages, so we can improve the docs. -- Dan -- Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Over Quota: Datastore Indices Count
Hi, Marzia. I'm sorry I forgot to tell you my app id. My app id is book-case-2 Thanks. 2008/12/23 Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com: Hi, If you reply to me with your app id, I will be able to fix this. -Marzia On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:40 PM, paptimus papti...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, GAE team. I encountered Your application is exceeding a quota: Datastore Indices Count on dashboard. The number of indeces is under 50, but one model has about 30 indeces. So I think this one is the point of over quota warning and vacuumed these indeces. Vacuume_index was completed and there is no index of that model. But the warging of over quota ramains over 24 hours and the status of a new index remains building. I hope you check my index and change the status to Error if my index has problems, please. Thanks. -- - koji matsui --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: form.as_p
class PostForm(forms.ModelForm): class Meta: model = Post exclude = ['author','permalink','tags', 'lastCommentedDate', 'commentcount','visitcount', 'lastModifiedDate', 'lastModifiedBy', ] There's a exclude property, when you define your form. Add the items that you don't want to show on the page. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
