[google-appengine] Regexps in app.yaml url for static_dir?

2009-01-06 Thread boson

GAE docs [1] on configuring for serving static files say the url
param used with static_dir uses regular expression syntax.  I can't
seem to get this to work.

I wanted to let the URLs /stuff/v1/thing.gif, /stuff/v2/thing.gif,
etc. all refer to a file thing.gif in my app's /static/stuff
directory.  Tried like this:

- url: /stuff/.*/
  static_dir: static/stuff

But I only get 404s.  (Nothing earlier in app.yaml is interfering
either).

I ended up converting it to this, which works:

- url: /stuff/(.*)/(.*)
  static_files: static/stuff/\2
  upload: static/stuff/(.*)

So it works, but the syntax is much more cumbersome.  Is regex
supposed to work with static_dir, and if so what am I doing wrong (or
is this a bug)?  Thanks.

I should say that I have only tested on this dev_appserver (Mac OS X)
so far -- haven't verified this problem in production.


[1] 
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/configuringanapp.html#Static_File_Handlers


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[google-appengine] Re: Timeouts

2009-01-06 Thread livibetter

I just got three timeouts about an hour ago within 10 minutes to my app
(appid: brps), all generated same traceback.

They happened at:
01-05 11:50AM 18.670
01-05 11:50AM 13.719
01-05 11:41AM 50.052

It's not a big deal to me, just want to provide the info.

But I do have a question, can we catch `Timeout` exception?

==

One of the error log:
01-05 11:50AM 13.719 /get?
blog=4589801858088630122post=430278962333729325callback=jsonp1231109286447_=1231109287404
500 11474ms 8190ms-cpu 1kb
See details

65.210.123.XXX - - [05/Jan/2009:11:50:25 -0800] GET /get?
blog=4589801858088630122post=430278962333729325callback=jsonp1231109286447_=1231109287404
HTTP/1.1 500 1115 - -

01-05 11:50AM 25.180
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/webapp/
__init__.py, line 498, in __call__
handler.get(*groups)
  File /base/data/home/apps/brps/1.330487559911947040/index.py, line
100, in get
p = post.get(blog_id, post_id)
  File /base/data/home/apps/brps/1.330487559911947040/brps/post.py,
line 75, in get
p = Post.get_by_key_name(key_name)
  File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/
__init__.py, line 837, in get_by_key_name
return get(*keys)
  File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/ext/db/
__init__.py, line 1032, in get
entities = datastore.Get(keys)
  File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/
datastore.py, line 217, in Get
raise _ToDatastoreError(err)
  File /base/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/api/
datastore.py, line 1637, in _ToDatastoreError
raise errors[err.application_error](err.error_detail)
Timeout
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[google-appengine] Re: request: versions accessed by URL param rather than prefix?

2009-01-06 Thread David Symonds

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Ben Nevile ben.nev...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sadly I cannot redirect before returning to Facebook.  I can ask
 Facebook to redirect, but if I redirect to a non-canvas page it won't
 render within the Facebook environment.  Does that make sense?

 For example, if I wanted to redirect to 2.latest.myapp.appspot.com I
 can send Facebook this directive:

 fb:redirect url='http://2.latest.myapp.appspot.com' /

Why can't you do a normal HTTP 304 redirect?


Dave.

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[google-appengine] Re: return a variable value from html form to python

2009-01-06 Thread thebrianschott

Marzia and others,

Thank you for your help.

The good news is that I have revised my app to use the google maps
methods of passing data around, GDownloadUrl() and it works pretty
well on my local machine.

The bad news is that when I deployed it to the appspot, it fails
immediately. I worried that something was wrong when I tried to
upgrade the svn version and got an error message that I don't
understand.

[3:15am brian~]% cd /Users/brian/googleapps/carpoolfinder/
[3:36am brian~/googleapps/carpoolfinder]% svn status
subversion/libsvn_wc/lock.c:377: (apr_err=155007)
svn: '.' is not a working copy

One bug I know about in the application is that the center marker
(pushpin) will not stay off-center from the underlying map if you want
it to. While you are building the map, that pin will stay off-center
until you go back to the existing map, and there it has centered
itself. I would love to find the problem.

Another problem occurs if the map builder supplies a ampersand (like
walkers  pedalers) in the people text field. Also, if the map
builder supplies an initial name which begins with any digits, it
fails. I will have to learn more Python, I guess to fix these two
problems.

So, I would like any help you can offer.

Our app could be used and viewed at the following link, except that it
is not working right now for some reason.

Thanks, again.

Brian in Atlanta
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[google-appengine] Re: return a variable value from html form to python

2009-01-06 Thread thebrianschott

Our link is http://carpoolfinder.appspot.com/
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[google-appengine] Re: 1 application, multiple datastores

2009-01-06 Thread hawkett

   How do you know how the current GAE code actually works?

  I read the API docs - how do you manage it?

 I'm not the one asserting that there are hard boundaries between GAE
 datastores that the GAE run-time can't pierce.

Neither am I - I am asserting that there are hard boundaries that you
or I can't pierce, and that is a feature of the security
architecture.  The API docs bear out that assertion.  I do *expect*
that data partitioning is a DB layer feature, but as I said
previously, I don't know that.

 It is generally believed that GAE is built on top of BigTable, which
 has a lot of internal Google users.  I don't know that all of them can
 work with only one datastore; I'd guess that several require to access
 multiple datastores simultaneously.  So, if there is a BigTable-level
 only one datastore and/or can't switch restriction, I'd be very
 surprised if was universal or could only be pierced by suid
 applications.

I guess one of us will be surprised then :) - I would be surprised if
gmail, sites, blogger, picassa, orkut etc. all operated in an open
space and avoided data exposure through code implemented in each of
those applications.  That seems a ludicrous architecture to me - which
is my point in this thread I guess. It makes much more sense to me to
have the partitioning logic at the DB level (like a standard database
tablespace), and for those applications to leverage that.  Then they
expose API's to access their data at the application level - not use
the DB API's.

Google does, in fact, expose API's for data access - 
http://code.google.com/apis/gdata/
- and does not give DB level access to it.  So I think just by
observing google's current architecture, it makes sense that they
wouldn't break with that tradition at the application level for GAE.
And not just because its tradition, but because it is rooted in sound
architectural principles.

 Not so fast.  Who said anything about application visible tokens?  In
 fact, it could be just change_to_application_userstore, where a
 userstore is an ordinary GAE datastore.  This could easily be written
 so it doesn't take any parameters from application code, which makes
 it just as secure as an open datastore call done at process startup.

 Or, it could support one token, so the application has access to the
 default datastore and a datastore determined by such a call.  Again,
 that call need not take parameters from application code.

I think this is getting away from the 106 proposal now, which states -
'This feature request is about allowing cross app queries using the db
APIs only'

And regardless, you can easily introduce the cited bug based on your
clarification.  Simply make the wrong call to 'change_to_datastore',
and you still have the exposure problem.  When your code is
responsible for selecting the datastore, you can introduce the bug.
This is fairly obvious.

 This could easily be written so it doesn't take any parameters from 
 application code, which makes
 it just as secure as an open datastore call done at process startup.

You are still asserting that application code carries the same
robustness profile as a platform code.  This is clearly not the case.
If there are N applications implementing the application API, vs just
the platform implementing the platform API, then it is a simple matter
of statistics to show that you will get at least N times as many
bugs.  In fact it will be much more than N, because the volume of
testing on the platform will be N times greater, and ther
implementation process will be much more rigourous than most
application.  Without doing the analysis, I would expect the platform
fragility (e.g. fragility = defects per month) to decrease
exponentially as N increases.  Using the application API, I expect
fragility would remain roughly constant, and unrelated to N.  But
there is a hidden bigger probem - if fragility remains constant on a
per app basis, then customers see app engine as a minefield - which
apps are well implemented?  The one they choose could be a broken
one.  How would they know?

This means across the board, the risk of data exposure _from the
customer perpsective_ is much worse if partitioning logic is performed
in application code.

What do you think of the possibility of being able to decide when you
deploy your app how strict the data partitioning should be?  In the
marketplace concept, the customer could be made aware of the
strictness of data partitioing when they sign up.  My main concern is
protecting customer data, and giving customers confidence in the data
security of the GAE platform.  This is how I read the intent of the
original poster as well.

On Jan 6, 3:40 am, Andy Freeman ana...@earthlink.net wrote:
As it stands GAE does not allow cross data store queries,
and from my perspective that is an aspect of the security
architecture.  106 wants that aspect 'relaxed'.

   How do you know how the current GAE code actually works?

  I read the API docs - how do 

[google-appengine] Getting around the limits of fetching large result sets

2009-01-06 Thread bowman.jos...@gmail.com

I've got several blogs scattered around and use none of them, so I
thought I'd post this here and maybe some of the ideas and methods I'm
using might help other developers using appengine.

Let me preface this with, I've come to the conclusion that appengine
is not the right tool for everyjob, and when you start looking at
needing to do the things I mention below on a regular basis, you might
wish to consider moving back to a traditional server/database
solution, or look for other alternatives to BigTable.

I had two problems, I attacked them two different ways to reach
acceptable solutions.

There was a constraint for both problems that some of you may not be
aware of yet, so I'll explain that first. While the datastore has 1000
limit on fetch(), if you're regularly fetching 1000 entities you are
going to get execution timeouts. Especially if you're doing something
on each of those 1000 requests, like say, deleting them. I've found,
when you're doing a write for every request, 75 is for the most part a
safe number.

Finally, one other piece of information you need is what I'm
developing with.
The latest version of appenginepatch and the django supplied with it,
1.0.2 I believe.
The latest trunk version of gaeutilities (I need to get a new update
out to you all who are using it).


Ok... problems.

Paging.
I needed a nice paging system that would also be lightweight and user
friendly. I read the very interesting article on paging by key, and it
didn't really fit in this instance. keys didn't make for friendly urls
and my paging items are static, I page by a score that can change on
each entity.

My solution was to use the paging library that comes with django. I
run my query, and then page on top of it. Since the scores don't
change every request, I also cache those queries in order to offer
even better performance. I fetch 100 entities for the paging, which
gives me 10 pages of 10, when run through the django pagination
library. To increase the amount of pages, I could fetch more entities.


Deleting more than 1000 records:
My first solution was to create a page that deleted 75 records at a
time, and refresh a whole lot. This was a bit frustrating when I have
of 2 records. The next time I had to do it, I got a little bit
more creative.

First, the view in Django:
def deleteAllStories(request):
''' This method deletes all stories in the database.'''
from google.appengine.ext import db
from fanatasticweb.models import Story

query = db.GqlQuery('SELECT * FROM Story')
results = query.fetch(75)
if len(results) == 75:
more = True

db.delete(results)
if more:
return HttpResponse('More')
else:
return HttpResponse('done')

This view is actually called from ajax request in this view
def deleteAllStoriesV(request):
return render_to_response('deleteall.html', {})

deleteall.html is a simple javascript function that calls the story
deleteview and checks the content. If the content is not done it
refreshes. That way, it will keep running even over the occastional
datastore timeout error you'll encounter.


The main thing I've learned is that when you need to start managing
lots of records, it's possible. Javascript is more than likely going
to be the answer. Javascript will also be useful for avoiding
datastore timeouts in some instances as well. However, when you need
to start creating multiple http requests to manage data on a regular
basis, it may be time to move back to a server with your favorite
database backend in order to be able to process those large
transactions.

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[google-appengine] Re: 1 application, multiple datastores

2009-01-06 Thread Andy Freeman

 I guess one of us will be surprised then :) - I would be surprised if
 gmail, sites, blogger, picassa, orkut etc. all operated in an open
 space and avoided data exposure through code implemented in each of
 those applications.

If the separation is by name and ordinary file access control, the
code implemented consists of the name of the datastore for the
application plus some application configuration that has to happen
regardless.  I'm pretty sure that google thinks that their folks can
open an application-specific datastore name reliably.  And, if they
fail, they're talking to a datastore with the wrong structure.

Or, are you thinking that those applications use a different datastore
per external user?  (If separate datastore per user is the usage
pattern, bigtable requires far less concurrency support than the
report mentions.)

 - and does not give DB level access to it.  So I think just by
 observing google's current architecture, it makes sense that they
 wouldn't break with that tradition at the application level for GAE.
 And not just because its tradition, but because it is rooted in sound
 architectural principles

What db level access are you talking about?  The result of that open
call is used by every other bigtable operation, including all db
operations performed at the datastore.  Unless GAE works differently,
the runtime has access to that result.

  Not so fast.  Who said anything about application visible tokens?  In
  fact, it could be just change_to_application_userstore, where a
  userstore is an ordinary GAE datastore.  This could easily be written
  so it doesn't take any parameters from application code, which makes
  it just as secure as an open datastore call done at process startup.

 And regardless, you can easily introduce the cited bug based on your
 clarification.  Simply make the wrong call to 'change_to_datastore',
 and you still have the exposure problem.  When your code is
 responsible for selecting the datastore, you can introduce the bug.
 This is fairly obvious.

Huh?  How can you make a wrong call that doesn't have any
parameters?

Here's the application code:
 {operations on application-wide datastore}
 change_to_application_userstore() # note - no parameters
 {operations on user-specific datastore}
 {return to user}

The runtime knows what user and the mapping from said user to an
application-specific datastore.  The application doesn't specify the
user and doesn't even know the name of the datastore.

There are only two mistakes that the application writer can make -
calling change_to_application_userstore too early or too late.

If the change_to_application_userstore() call is too late, the
application will try to perform some user-specific operations on the
application-wide datastore, but those will likely fail because its
structure is completely different.  Note that the application doesn't
have access to any data from the user's datastore at that point.

If the change_to_application_userstore() call is too early, the
application will try to perform some application-generic operations on
the user's datastore, but those will likely fail for the same reason
as above.  Moreover, this can't leak user data because the application
only has access to the user's datastore at that point.

 You are still asserting that application code carries the same
 robustness profile as a platform code.

No, I'm not.  I'm pointing out that the platform includes the run-time
and that run-time can provide meaningful services in this area.  If
it's already providing related services, and I'm pretty sure that it
is calling open_application_datastore with some application-specific
key on startup, this doesn't change the risk profile.

Do you really want to argue that the platform code in the run-time has
a significantly different robustness profile than platform code
running on a different server?  (If I'm correct about it already
providing related services, you're actually arguing about the relative
robustness of related run-time code.)  Would platform code running in
a different process on the same machine have yet another robustness
profile?


On Jan 6, 4:57 am, hawkett hawk...@gmail.com wrote:
How do you know how the current GAE code actually works?

   I read the API docs - how do you manage it?

  I'm not the one asserting that there are hard boundaries between GAE
  datastores that the GAE run-time can't pierce.

 Neither am I - I am asserting that there are hard boundaries that you
 or I can't pierce, and that is a feature of the security
 architecture.  The API docs bear out that assertion.  I do *expect*
 that data partitioning is a DB layer feature, but as I said
 previously, I don't know that.

  It is generally believed that GAE is built on top of BigTable, which
  has a lot of internal Google users.  I don't know that all of them can
  work with only one datastore; I'd guess that several require to access
  multiple datastores simultaneously.  So, 

[google-appengine] Re: Suggests based on user input

2009-01-06 Thread bowman.jos...@gmail.com

If it's going to make a request each time it needs to calculate next
suggestions, you could quickly hit your requests quota. When doing
Ajax style functionality on your appengine site, it's best to keep in
mind you have a finite amount of requests available to your
application per day.

On Jan 6, 9:58 am, Barry Hunter barrybhun...@googlemail.com wrote:
 You could use something like thishttp://developer.yahoo.com/yui/autocomplete/

 the python script to output csv, or xml based on the datastore query
 should be fairly trival.

 2009/1/6 Shay Ben Dov shay.ben...@gmail.com:





  Hi Everybody,

  Has anyone tried to implement a suggestions based on user input like
  inGmail when you start to key in the To: field and you get a lists of
  suggested names read from your contacts.

  I wish to implement the same reading suggestions from a datastore
  table based on user keyed_in input.

  Every assistance is appreciated.

  Thanks,

  Shay Ben Dov

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[google-appengine] Server Error (500) on deploy

2009-01-06 Thread blackball

Hello!
I updated my Apps but it always  told me :

Cloned 100 files.
Cloned 200 files.
Cloning 293 application files.
Cloned 100 files.
Cloned 200 files.
Closing update.
Uploading index definitions.
Error 500: --- begin server output ---

Server Error (500)
A server error has occurred.
--- end server output ---
Your app was updated, but there was an error updating your indexes.
Please retry
 later with appcfg.py update_indexes.

What's wrong with It?
Somebody does me a favor ? I really appreciate.
My app-id is :bugway

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[google-appengine] Interaction with other server

2009-01-06 Thread gabon

Tired of the performances of my cheap hosting, I would like to try to
see if GAE is the answer for small projects that could be quite
demanding and should be reliable.
Let's imagine I have a database on my personal website and I would
like to kind of mirror it every now and then to have almost the same
data in my GAE app. I could for instance call a dynamically generated
text file (ie xml) with all the needed data from my personal webserver
and copy in the GAE app directory. Can I copy static files to the app
directory from my app (in python)? I read network operations are
limited but I presume not that much.

Any suggestion?

Thanks, chr

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[google-appengine] Refresh needed on every page load?!

2009-01-06 Thread Stirman

My little GAE app:  http://www.mobaganda.com/

The first time you hit the page, it's  blank, refresh and everything
comes up fine?!  No errors in logs, nothing unusual going on with
data, no red flags anywhere... no idea why this happens?!

I get e-mails daily saying mobaganda is down!!, but it's not.. it
just needs a page re-load, every time.

Any ideas as to why this would happen?  I don't even know how to start
debugging this!

Many thanks!
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[google-appengine] Re: Server Error (500) on deploy

2009-01-06 Thread Marzia Niccolai
Hi,

This error is due to the fact that you have indexes that are currently
building.  I am fixing this and will follow up off group after it is
complete.

-Marzia

On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 9:46 PM, blackball bug...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hello!
 I updated my Apps but it always  told me :

 Cloned 100 files.
 Cloned 200 files.
 Cloning 293 application files.
 Cloned 100 files.
 Cloned 200 files.
 Closing update.
 Uploading index definitions.
 Error 500: --- begin server output ---

 Server Error (500)
 A server error has occurred.
 --- end server output ---
 Your app was updated, but there was an error updating your indexes.
 Please retry
  later with appcfg.py update_indexes.

 What's wrong with It?
 Somebody does me a favor ? I really appreciate.
 My app-id is :bugway

 


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[google-appengine] Re: Refresh needed on every page load?!

2009-01-06 Thread Marzia Niccolai
Hi,

This is due to the fact that you are missing:

if __name__ == __main__:
  main()

at the end of your application file.  It's due to the way that App Engine
does App Caching:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/appcaching.html

-Marzia

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 9:33 AM, Stirman stir...@gmail.com wrote:


 My little GAE app:  http://www.mobaganda.com/

 The first time you hit the page, it's  blank, refresh and everything
 comes up fine?!  No errors in logs, nothing unusual going on with
 data, no red flags anywhere... no idea why this happens?!

 I get e-mails daily saying mobaganda is down!!, but it's not.. it
 just needs a page re-load, every time.

 Any ideas as to why this would happen?  I don't even know how to start
 debugging this!

 Many thanks!
 


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[google-appengine] Re: Query on partial string

2009-01-06 Thread Marzia Niccolai
Hi,

With App Engine, there is not a great way to do partial string searches.  To
do prefix matching, which seems to be your use case, you can use inequality
filters and the method described here:
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/datastore/queriesandindexes.html

Query filters do not have an explicit way to match just part of a string
value, but you can fake a prefix match using inequality filters:

db.GqlQuery(SELECT * FROM MyModel WHERE prop = :1 AND prop  :2, abc,
uabc + u\ufffd)

This matches every MyModel entity with a string property prop that begins
with the characters abc. The unicode string u\ufffd represents the largest
possible Unicode character. When the property values are sorted in an index,
the values that fall in this range are all of the values that begin with the
given prefix.

-Marzia

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:59 AM, chromerunner gau...@gmail.com wrote:


 A noob question. I have a series of names in the datastore. They are
 stored in this format: surname-first initial. Examples would be:

 Smith-J
 Python-M
 Smith-KS
 Doe-J

 Users will want to find names by partial matching. Thus a query string
 of 'Smith' should find both J and KS above... I just can't find a way
 of doing it, am I missing what's glaringly obvious? Any pointers
 please? Thanks

 


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[google-appengine] Re: Query on partial string

2009-01-06 Thread chromerunner

Thanks Marzia, for two reasons (a) it is a valid workaround that I can
use and (b) I feel less incompetent in not having discovered an
obvious feature
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[google-appengine] Re: Regexps in app.yaml url for static_dir?

2009-01-06 Thread Marzia Niccolai
Hi,

This is due to the fact that the url parameter for static_dir works
differently than that for static_files.  The static_dir regex is prefix only
with no groups:

From static_dir description:
url

A URL prefix. This value uses regular expression syntax (and so regexp
special characters must be escaped), but it should not contain groupings.
All URLs that begin with this prefix are handled by this handler, using the
portion of the URL after the prefix as part of the file path.

And the description for static_files:

url

The URL pattern, as a regular expression. The expression can contain
groupings that can be referred to in the file path to the script with
regular expression back-references.

For example, /item-(.*?)/category-(.*) would match the URL
/item-127/category-fruit, and use 127 and fruit as the first and second
groupings.
-Marzia


On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:16 AM, boson dan.kam...@gmail.com wrote:


 GAE docs [1] on configuring for serving static files say the url
 param used with static_dir uses regular expression syntax.  I can't
 seem to get this to work.

 I wanted to let the URLs /stuff/v1/thing.gif, /stuff/v2/thing.gif,
 etc. all refer to a file thing.gif in my app's /static/stuff
 directory.  Tried like this:

 - url: /stuff/.*/
  static_dir: static/stuff

 But I only get 404s.  (Nothing earlier in app.yaml is interfering
 either).

 I ended up converting it to this, which works:

 - url: /stuff/(.*)/(.*)
  static_files: static/stuff/\2
  upload: static/stuff/(.*)

 So it works, but the syntax is much more cumbersome.  Is regex
 supposed to work with static_dir, and if so what am I doing wrong (or
 is this a bug)?  Thanks.

 I should say that I have only tested on this dev_appserver (Mac OS X)
 so far -- haven't verified this problem in production.


 [1]
 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/configuringanapp.html#Static_File_Handlers


 


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[google-appengine] Re: Regexps in app.yaml url for static_dir?

2009-01-06 Thread boson

Marzia,

Could you please provide an example of how one might use a regular
expression with static_dir url pattern?

The one I provided seemed like a pretty simple one (simple prefix, no
groupings), but it doesn't work, so obviously I'm missing something
here.  What does work?

Thank you.

On Jan 6, 10:54 am, Marzia Niccolai ma...@google.com wrote:
 Hi,

 This is due to the fact that the url parameter for static_dir works
 differently than that for static_files.  The static_dir regex is prefix only
 with no groups:

 From static_dir description:
 url

 A URL prefix. This value uses regular expression syntax (and so regexp
 special characters must be escaped), but it should not contain groupings.
 All URLs that begin with this prefix are handled by this handler, using the
 portion of the URL after the prefix as part of the file path.

 And the description for static_files:

 url

 The URL pattern, as a regular expression. The expression can contain
 groupings that can be referred to in the file path to the script with
 regular expression back-references.

 For example, /item-(.*?)/category-(.*) would match the URL
 /item-127/category-fruit, and use 127 and fruit as the first and second
 groupings.
 -Marzia

 On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:16 AM, boson dan.kam...@gmail.com wrote:

  GAE docs [1] on configuring for serving static files say the url
  param used with static_dir uses regular expression syntax.  I can't
  seem to get this to work.

  I wanted to let the URLs /stuff/v1/thing.gif, /stuff/v2/thing.gif,
  etc. all refer to a file thing.gif in my app's /static/stuff
  directory.  Tried like this:

  - url: /stuff/.*/
   static_dir: static/stuff

  But I only get 404s.  (Nothing earlier in app.yaml is interfering
  either).

  I ended up converting it to this, which works:

  - url: /stuff/(.*)/(.*)
   static_files: static/stuff/\2
   upload: static/stuff/(.*)

  So it works, but the syntax is much more cumbersome.  Is regex
  supposed to work with static_dir, and if so what am I doing wrong (or
  is this a bug)?  Thanks.

  I should say that I have only tested on this dev_appserver (Mac OS X)
  so far -- haven't verified this problem in production.

  [1]
 http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/configuringanapp.html#Static_Fi...
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[google-appengine] Re: request: versions accessed by URL param rather than prefix?

2009-01-06 Thread Ben Nevile

Dave,

When dealing with Facebook and FBML you can't do a 304 redirect.
Facebook is making the request to your server on behalf of the user.

Ben



On Jan 6, 1:35 am, David Symonds dsymo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Ben Nevile ben.nev...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sadly I cannot redirect before returning to Facebook.  I can ask
  Facebook to redirect, but if I redirect to a non-canvas page it won't
  render within the Facebook environment.  Does that make sense?

  For example, if I wanted to redirect to 2.latest.myapp.appspot.com I
  can send Facebook this directive:

  fb:redirect url='http://2.latest.myapp.appspot.com'/

 Why can't you do a normal HTTP 304 redirect?

 Dave.
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[google-appengine] Re: request: versions accessed by URL param rather than prefix?

2009-01-06 Thread boson

Ben,

I also am developing FB apps with GAE.  I set up a Google Group for
this:
http://groups.google.com/group/facebook-and-google-app-engine
and we've touched on the topic of how to best do app versioning there
too.  Your proposal is interesting!

That group isn't a substitute for this one, but it's a good
supplemental place to get all the FB+GAE people together under one
virtual roof.  Stop by and say hello :)


On Jan 5, 12:13 pm, Ben Nevile ben.nev...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,

 Much of my work with App Engine is on Facebook applications.  Facebook
 acts as a proxy through which all requests flow. Every application
 registers a callback URL that Facebook directs traffic at.  So for
 instance

 http://apps.facebook.com/my_application/foo

 becomes

 http://my_application.appspot.com/foo

 One of my favorite GAE features is that I can access and test
 different versions of my App Engine code.  Under most circumstances
 the URL subdomain-based access (eg,
 1.latest.my_application.appspot.com,
 2.latest.my_application.appspot.com, etc) is very convenient, but this
 convention doesn't fit well with Facebook's idea of the fixed callback
 URL.  I can set up a dummy application to access the version of code
 that I want, but this is A. kludgy and B. inconvenient because all of
 the social context is absent in the dummy application (other friends
 using the app, etc.)

 I would very much like to be able to access different versions of my
 code using a query parameter.  Then I could test my Facebook apps with
 URLs like

 http://apps.facebook.com/my_application/foo?APP_VERSION=2

 which would be translated into

 http://my_application.appspot.com/foo?APP_VERSION=2

 I'm hoping something like this already possible.  If not, consider
 this a feature request!  :)

 Ben
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[google-appengine] Re: request: versions accessed by URL param rather than prefix?

2009-01-06 Thread David Symonds

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ben Nevile ben.nev...@gmail.com wrote:

 When dealing with Facebook and FBML you can't do a 304 redirect.
 Facebook is making the request to your server on behalf of the user.

So it's Facebook that doesn't follow 304 redirects? That sounds broken.


Dave.

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[google-appengine] Re: request: versions accessed by URL param rather than prefix?

2009-01-06 Thread David Symonds

On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 8:44 AM, David Symonds dsymo...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ben Nevile ben.nev...@gmail.com wrote:

 When dealing with Facebook and FBML you can't do a 304 redirect.
 Facebook is making the request to your server on behalf of the user.

 So it's Facebook that doesn't follow 304 redirects? That sounds broken.

An alternative workaround would be to do a urlfetch to your own
application from your main handler, which can then contain the version
switching logic.


Dave.

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[google-appengine] Re: AuthToken for Appengine

2009-01-06 Thread Jeff S

At the moment, there isn't really an option that avoids asking the
user for their Google Account password. The Google Calendar API which
you mentioned has a few options for web based authorization which
would provide an auth token including OAuth and AuthSub

http://code.google.com/apis/accounts/docs/OAuth.html
http://code.google.com/apis/accounts/docs/AuthSub.html

I think adding these auth mechanisms to App Engine would be a good
feature request. Would you mind addind it to our issues list?

http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues

Thank you,

Jeff

On Jan 4, 11:52 am, magnolia8...@gmail.com magnolia8...@gmail.com
wrote:
 Is it possible in anyway for a web application to get an AuthToken for
 appengine like any other service like google calendar etc?

 The idea is to mange end users appengine apps from a web application
 using google authetication with out using user’s google id and
 password.

 If one can get hold the AuthToken   for appengine then the appcfg.py
 can be tweaked to use that Authtoken to get the things done.

 Any information in this regard will be greatly appreciated.

 Many thanks
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[google-appengine] object not iterable

2009-01-06 Thread Rockmaster

Hi, there,

I've been trying to figure out what is happening with my code, and
after pounding my head against the wall for a while, I thought I'd ask
you guys.

I'm trying to extract some lines containing X= from an inputform.
Here's the portion of code that is giving me trouble:

inputdata = self.request.get('inputdata')
nlines = inputdata.splitlines
xlines = []
for val in nlines:
  if val.find('X='):
xlines.append(val)

Here's the error I get:
for val in nlines:
TypeError: 'builtin_function_or_method' object is not iterable

I thought that splitlines would return a list, which should be
iterable, right?

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[google-appengine] Re: object not iterable

2009-01-06 Thread Ross M Karchner
inputdata.splitlines refers to the function itself, you want to *call* the
function, so use parentheses:

nlines = inputdata.splitlines()



On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 5:01 PM, Rockmaster rockmast...@gmail.com wrote:


 Hi, there,

 I've been trying to figure out what is happening with my code, and
 after pounding my head against the wall for a while, I thought I'd ask
 you guys.

 I'm trying to extract some lines containing X= from an inputform.
 Here's the portion of code that is giving me trouble:

inputdata = self.request.get('inputdata')
nlines = inputdata.splitlines
xlines = []
for val in nlines:
  if val.find('X='):
xlines.append(val)

 Here's the error I get:
for val in nlines:
 TypeError: 'builtin_function_or_method' object is not iterable

 I thought that splitlines would return a list, which should be
 iterable, right?

 


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[google-appengine] Re: object not iterable

2009-01-06 Thread Rockmaster

Thanks!
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[google-appengine] Submitting App to the Gallery

2009-01-06 Thread deji.omis...@gmail.com

Anyone knows how long this takes to show up in the gallery?   Thanks.
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[google-appengine] BadArgumentError: _app must not be empty.

2009-01-06 Thread Stuart Grimshaw

I'm trying to get doctests running from inside of Textmate, and I've
got so far that I can run the tests, and they work as expected until I
try and put() the object, when I get the error above.

I'm using Aral Balkan's gae_doctest.py and I've added os.environ
['APPLICATION_ID'] = APP_ID as suggested in another post.

I've put gae_doctest in /Applications/GoogleAppEngineLauncher.app/
Contents/Resources/GoogleAppEngine-default.bundle/Contents/Resources/
google_appengine/lib/ (which is symlinked to /usr/local/
google_appengine/lib

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[google-appengine] regex problems

2009-01-06 Thread Rockmaster

Hello,

I'm a bit confused by regular expressions in Python.  I tested the
following regex with http://re.dabase.com/, and it got a match there,
but I can't seem to get a match once I run this:

(  example line from xlines:   X=   0.  )

progX = re.compile('X=\s*\d+\.?\d*', re.I)
xparts = []
for val in xlines:
  mX = progX.match(val)

Any ideas?
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[google-appengine] Crazy Apps account / Google account behavior

2009-01-06 Thread Taylor Hughes

So, I have an application that belonged to my Google account.

Earlier today, our IT guy registered a Google Apps account for our
domain -- and added an account with the same username / e-mail as my
Google account (tay...@nemeannetworks.com).

Just now, I deleted a *different developer* from the application --
signed in as my Google account. Upon saving, I was redirected to an
Unauthorized to view this application page, and much to my dismay, I
no longer had access to my application's admin console.

Shockingly, however: I now have access to the admin console for my app
*with my Google Apps login.* I did not delete or re-invite myself, it
just happened by magic.

Is there any way to grant access back to my Google account instead of
to my Google Apps account without changing my Google account's e-mail
address?

Thanks,

Taylor Hughes
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[google-appengine] Re: Crazy Apps account / Google account behavior

2009-01-06 Thread Taylor Hughes

More:

If I add a new application while logged in as my Google account, I am
immediately sent to an Unauthorized page -- and the new app shows up
under my Apps account! (Just created crazytimeexcellent and saw this
behavior.)


On Jan 6, 5:46 pm, Taylor Hughes tay...@nemeannetworks.com wrote:
 So, I have an application that belonged to my Google account.

 Earlier today, our IT guy registered a Google Apps account for our
 domain -- and added an account with the same username / e-mail as my
 Google account (tay...@nemeannetworks.com).

 Just now, I deleted a *different developer* from the application --
 signed in as my Google account. Upon saving, I was redirected to an
 Unauthorized to view this application page, and much to my dismay, I
 no longer had access to my application's admin console.

 Shockingly, however: I now have access to the admin console for my app
 *with my Google Apps login.* I did not delete or re-invite myself, it
 just happened by magic.

 Is there any way to grant access back to my Google account instead of
 to my Google Apps account without changing my Google account's e-mail
 address?

 Thanks,

 Taylor Hughes
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[google-appengine] Re: regex problems

2009-01-06 Thread djidjadji

match() wants the regex to start at position 0. If your first char is
not 'X' == No match
try search()
Read the python doc about the difference.

2009/1/7 Rockmaster rockmast...@gmail.com:

 Hello,

 I'm a bit confused by regular expressions in Python.  I tested the
 following regex with http://re.dabase.com/, and it got a match there,
 but I can't seem to get a match once I run this:

 (  example line from xlines:   X=   0.  )

progX = re.compile('X=\s*\d+\.?\d*', re.I)
xparts = []
for val in xlines:
  mX = progX.match(val)

 Any ideas?
 


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[google-appengine] Re: regex problems

2009-01-06 Thread Rockmaster

It's always something simple.  Thank you.
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[google-appengine] Re: Crazy Apps account / Google account behavior

2009-01-06 Thread Marzia Niccolai
Hi Taylor,

I will follow up with you off the group to get this sorted out.

In generally, having an account that is both a Google Apps and Google
Account is not a good idea with App Engine because what you have described
will happen.  You can read more about this here:
http://code.google.com/appengine/articles/auth.html

-Marzia

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Taylor Hughes tay...@nemeannetworks.comwrote:


 More:

 If I add a new application while logged in as my Google account, I am
 immediately sent to an Unauthorized page -- and the new app shows up
 under my Apps account! (Just created crazytimeexcellent and saw this
 behavior.)


 On Jan 6, 5:46 pm, Taylor Hughes tay...@nemeannetworks.com wrote:
  So, I have an application that belonged to my Google account.
 
  Earlier today, our IT guy registered a Google Apps account for our
  domain -- and added an account with the same username / e-mail as my
  Google account (tay...@nemeannetworks.com).
 
  Just now, I deleted a *different developer* from the application --
  signed in as my Google account. Upon saving, I was redirected to an
  Unauthorized to view this application page, and much to my dismay, I
  no longer had access to my application's admin console.
 
  Shockingly, however: I now have access to the admin console for my app
  *with my Google Apps login.* I did not delete or re-invite myself, it
  just happened by magic.
 
  Is there any way to grant access back to my Google account instead of
  to my Google Apps account without changing my Google account's e-mail
  address?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Taylor Hughes
 


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[google-appengine] delete application in future?

2009-01-06 Thread SM

I know there is currently no way to delete an application, but I am
wondering if this will be possible in the future. The reason to do
this would be to free up slots in the quota (currently 10 apps) we are
given.

If this will be possible in the future, when is an approximate
timeframe?

Thanks.

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[google-appengine] Re: delete application in future?

2009-01-06 Thread SM

Thank you.

On Jan 6, 4:33 pm, Alexander Kojevnikov alexan...@kojevnikov.com
wrote:
 Star this issue to follow it 
 up:http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=335

 On Jan 7, 11:28 am, SM sanja...@gmail.com wrote:

  I know there is currently no way to delete an application, but I am
  wondering if this will be possible in the future. The reason to do
  this would be to free up slots in the quota (currently 10 apps) we are
  given.

  If this will be possible in the future, when is an approximate
  timeframe?

  Thanks.
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[google-appengine] Announce - Cumulo SAASi

2009-01-06 Thread edwardgsanc...@gmail.com

Cumulo has opened up a limited beta for Cumulo SAASi. With Cumulo
SAASi, you can write web services in any programming language in less
than one hour. There is no network programming, only a simple command
line protocol that allows you to wrap any piece of code (in any
programming language), and bring it online as a web service. Full
access controls and analytics are supplied for each web service.

See http://www.cumulosoftware.com
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[google-appengine] Re: Configuring Friend Connect

2009-01-06 Thread benzrad

could u help me, with what u asked?
TIA.
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[google-appengine] 500 server error despite proper testing on dev_appserver.py and upload

2009-01-06 Thread pgctesting001

On Jan 3, 7:34 am, pgctesting001 pgctesting...@gmail.com wrote:
 I used the google app engin sdk to develop a simple app for testing on
 upload to my standard test site. the sdk and gdata installed properly,
 the tests ran ok, my html file showed in the development server on my
 platfor, I created the app engine with cell phone call back procedure
 and uploaded the app to my test site and it is active and showing
 activity from the control panel. when I try to invoke it, I get a 500
 Server Error from google, but nothing in the app's error logs.

 the app:

 print Content-type: text/html\n\n;
 print 'br'
 print 'pHello, world!/p'
 print 'br /'
 print 'strongThis is a test of the Google loader/strong'

 print 'br /'
 print 'strongHello, Thomas. How do you like me now?/strong'

 print 'br /'
 print 'strongHello, Tony. See what your help has produced?/strong'

 print 'br /'
 print 'strongFrom San Francisco, January 2, 2009./strong'

 the yaml file:

 application: pgctesting0102
 version: 1
 runtime: python
 api_version: 1

 handlers:
 - url: /.*
   script: pgctesting0102.py
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