[google-appengine] Re: can not force delete a index with error!
I've experienced this as well. My indexes have been marked Error for two days and vacuum_indexes doesn't seem to make a difference. On Jul 20, 4:52 pm, Ramesh Thiruchelvam ramesh.thiruchel...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jeff, I wasn't able to delete the Error statusindexfor a day, the next day when I tried vacuum_indexes it got deleted without any problem. The fist day I tried many times, but theindexstatus was Error it didn't change to Deleting It was kind of stuck at theerror status. Kr, Ramesh On Jul 21, 6:06 am, Jeff S (Google) j...@google.com wrote: Hi Ramesh, It looks like the errored indices have been deleted.Indexdeletion can sometimes take a little while (minutes to possibly hours but this is rare). Please let me know if the indices that you wanted to remove are still there. Thank you, Jeff On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Ramesh Thiruchelvam ramesh.thiruchel...@gmail.com wrote: I've the sample problem, my app id is sri-lankan, and myindexCity is having the problem. I tried appcfg.py vacuum_indexes many times but it didn't work. Please help me. Kr, Ramesh On Jul 13, 7:38 pm, jb j.b...@gmx.de wrote: Hello, all myindexare stuck aterrorfor some days now. I tried to vacuum_indexes and update_indexes but nothing happend. Could anyone from google take a look at my indexes? My app id is iferienhaus. Thanks. On Jul 1, 12:13 am, Jeff S (Google) j...@google.com wrote: Hello hu, I think the issues with adobeman's app have been addressed. What is your app ID? I'll take a look. Thank you, Jeff On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 2:32 AM, hu itswa...@gmail.com wrote: i got this problem too,and hope be resolved On Jun 29, 12:13 pm, adobeman xil...@gmail.com wrote: I have someindexshowing aserror, and tried appcfg.py vacuum_indexes My_application/ appcfg.py update_indexes My_application/ but after Ideletetheindexby command line, theindexstill shows up in the admin page. Anyone have idea how to effectively clear all the indexs, so I can try to rebuild the indexes for my application?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: brand new app. 500 error, nothing in the error logs.
some erro in your code, try pass in localhost 2009/8/1 Shawn A. boris...@gmail.com Hello Holger, Wow! I could have stared at the file for hours and not noticed that. sometimes all you need is another pair of eyes. Thank you that worked like a charm. Sneaky that it worked in the sdk btw. Thanks, -Shawn On Jul 31, 9:15 pm, Holger w...@arcor.de wrote: Hi Shawn, Try changing your app.yaml to handlers: - url: /.* script: flgs_database.py it's Python and Python sripts have got the ending 'py'. Bye, Holger -- gae-django-cms (GD-cms) a multi-user CMS running on GAE 一个基于GAE多用户的CMS sample http://cmsdome.appspot.com/ projects http://code.google.com/p/gae-django-cms/ --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] PyCrypto
Hi I'm new to Python/AppEngine in general. What is the correct import statement for using PyCrypto ? /Henrik Schack --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: PyCrypto
Depends. Depends on the module you want to use. Could be For example: from Crypto.Hash import MD5 Or: from Crypto.Cipher import DES See: http://www.dlitz.net/software/pycrypto/ That's what I learnd by google 'python crypto'. The rest is tryerror. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: PyCrypto
Ahh OK thank you very much, so PyCrypto isn't part of the AppEngine SDK download right ? /Henrik Schack On Aug 1, 10:42 am, Holger w...@arcor.de wrote: Depends. Depends on the module you want to use. Could be For example: from Crypto.Hash import MD5 Or: from Crypto.Cipher import DES See:http://www.dlitz.net/software/pycrypto/ That's what I learnd by google 'python crypto'. The rest is tryerror. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: PyCrypto
Really don't know. If it is part, you are able to import it (import is needed anyway), If not, you first have to install their code and than import it into your script. And anyway it's a python item not an appengine one. (You remember, before installing appengine you had to install python 25 and there you find crypt) In the python folder Lib/test/ there is a file test_crypt.py. Maybe this sample can help. Which crypt code packet you want and need to use - see Python documentation. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: brand new app. 500 error, nothing in the error logs.
You should move your remote_api handler to the top. It will never be called because the handler above it has the regex /.* 2009/8/1 Shawn A. boris...@gmail.com: Hello Holger, Wow! I could have stared at the file for hours and not noticed that. sometimes all you need is another pair of eyes. Thank you that worked like a charm. Sneaky that it worked in the sdk btw. Thanks, -Shawn On Jul 31, 9:15 pm, Holger w...@arcor.de wrote: Hi Shawn, Try changing your app.yaml to handlers: - url: /.* script: flgs_database.py it's Python and Python sripts have got the ending 'py'. Bye, Holger --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Large static files enable a quota exhaustion attack
I'd like to draw more attention to a security issue with the App Engine quota system which makes it particularly easy for an attacker to use up an app's bandwidth quota. User syntax writes that when a client requests a large (10 MB) static file but cancels the download immediately, the whole file size is nevertheless counted against the outgoing bandwidth quota. By repeating such requests without completing them, an attacker can exhaust an app's quota while using little bandwidth on their side. Originally reported in the issue tracker: http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1178 P. S. Please cc me because I'm not subscribed to the group. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to translate an application running on GAE?
OK, thanks Rodrigo for the link to Babel. I had already seen it, but
never used it.
The problem I see with using Babel is that it IS an external library,
which means that I need to integrate it with my project. What I'm
looking for is a way to have a translated application WITHOUT having
to install any external library...
I am looking at
http://makeyjl.blogspot.com/2009/02/using-djangos-i18n-in-google-app-engine.html
right now, and (while I'm not done playing around) I have already been
able to generate .po files, and my application still works OK. I'm
going to continue playing around, and then I'll report here about how
it went. If everything works fine I might even write a Knol article to
explain my steps (the article is not 100% accurate, I had to find out
to add {% load i18n %} in the templates for instance...
If anyone has another way of translating App Engine applications using
only the available tools, fell free to share it!
On 31 juil, 18:17, Rodrigo Moraes rodrigo.mor...@gmail.com wrote:
Now, anwering some other questions.
- I suppose that the .po / .mo files that open source projects
traditionally use can not be used in the App Engine world?
Yes, you can use those files with gettext functions. You'll probably
need to wrap those functions and write some utilities to make it
easier to use - but you don't need to do that because there are
excellent libraries that have done it - Babel is the most known in the
python world (I actually don't know any other).
- Would you have various template files for each languages (like a
contact.en.html, contact.fr.html, contact.nl.html, etc.) and use the
appropriate file depending on the language that has been detected from
the browser header?
No! You would use one template, and have the strings wrapped by a
translation function. The convention is to use a function name _.
Like:
{{ _(This is my string - I'll translate it later, and if not it'll be
in English forever.) }}
There are issues you'll find, like how to handle singular/plural and
string replacements, but existing solutions cover that.
- Would you use a single template file, but pass it the strings one by
one that you would retrieve from the datastore (ouch, just writing
this solution hurts!)
Absolutelly no. The strings are stored in a .po file, which you
compile into a .mo file. This if you go for the widely used gettext.
Note: if you execute the following command from inside the GAE dev
server folder:
find | xargs -i grep -iH i18n \{\}
you will see that a lot of files contain the string i18n, and that all
are related to django. Does that mean that we could use standard
Django internationalization techniques, or is it just that Google
forgot to remove those files?
I tried to use Django's i18n. Unfortunately Django is too tied to
itself and that library is not reusable outside of Django. Fortunately
later I found a standalone, reusable, well written one: Babel. It
works very well.
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[google-appengine] Re: How to translate an application running on GAE?
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Emilien Klein wrote: The problem I see with using Babel is that it IS an external library, which means that I need to integrate it with my project. What I'm looking for is a way to have a translated application WITHOUT having to install any external library... Without any other external library, you have 2 options: 1. use gettext - http://docs.python.org/library/gettext.html 2. hack and patch django's i18n The problem with the 2nd option is that your app stays tied to django's ecosystem - later you need i18n in a small project and you'll have to add django just for it. Ok, it is a valid solution, I just personally prefer to use a external library that is not coupled with a bunch of unrelated things, and avoid all the monkeypatching mess. -- rodrigo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to translate an application running on GAE?
We use the Django 0.96 that is bundled with GAE.
from django.utils.translation import gettext as _
Then just use _('My String) in the code, combined with the .po/.mo
files.
On Aug 1, 8:16 am, Rodrigo Moraes rodrigo.mor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Emilien Klein wrote:
The problem I see with using Babel is that it IS an external library,
which means that I need to integrate it with my project. What I'm
looking for is a way to have a translated application WITHOUT having
to install any external library...
Without any other external library, you have 2 options:
1. use gettext -http://docs.python.org/library/gettext.html
2. hack and patch django's i18n
The problem with the 2nd option is that your app stays tied to
django's ecosystem - later you need i18n in a small project and you'll
have to add django just for it. Ok, it is a valid solution, I just
personally prefer to use a external library that is not coupled with a
bunch of unrelated things, and avoid all the monkeypatching mess.
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[google-appengine] Re: Large static files enable a quota exhaustion attack
Instead of offering your file as static file (whose download you can't control) you could offer your file via url request from datastore and make registration and login obligatory or block any third request from the same IP. Then a single attacker has got no chance, only a bot net would be effective and if you are attacked by a botnet you are lost anyway - could only take your app out of service, if there is too much download. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] update_indexes error
Hi, I cannot update my indexes. Getting Server Error 500. Haven't reached yet 100. App id: testingryv Thanks, --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to translate an application running on GAE?
I understand your point, but Django has the benefit of coming bundled with GAE, whereas Babel is an external lib that you need to import in your project, keep up to date, etc... I'll try to use what comes with GAE, and if it doesn't perform well, then maybe I'll start looking at other external libraries. On 1 août, 10:16, Rodrigo Moraes rodrigo.mor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Emilien Klein wrote: The problem I see with using Babel is that it IS an external library, which means that I need to integrate it with my project. What I'm looking for is a way to have a translated application WITHOUT having to install any external library... Without any other external library, you have 2 options: 1. use gettext -http://docs.python.org/library/gettext.html 2. hack and patch django's i18n The problem with the 2nd option is that your app stays tied to django's ecosystem - later you need i18n in a small project and you'll have to add django just for it. Ok, it is a valid solution, I just personally prefer to use a external library that is not coupled with a bunch of unrelated things, and avoid all the monkeypatching mess. -- rodrigo --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to translate an application running on GAE?
Hi Devel63,
Thanks for your answer. But this is just for inside your Python files,
how do you manage text in the templates? Or don't you use templates? I
don't really see how you're managing this...
Is your app open source (i.e. Is there a place where I can see your
code)?
On 1 août, 10:31, Devel63 danstic...@gmail.com wrote:
We use the Django 0.96 that is bundled with GAE.
from django.utils.translation import gettext as _
Then just use _('My String) in the code, combined with the .po/.mo
files.
On Aug 1, 8:16 am, Rodrigo Moraes rodrigo.mor...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Emilien Klein wrote:
The problem I see with using Babel is that it IS an external library,
which means that I need to integrate it with my project. What I'm
looking for is a way to have a translated application WITHOUT having
to install any external library...
Without any other external library, you have 2 options:
1. use gettext -http://docs.python.org/library/gettext.html
2. hack and patch django's i18n
The problem with the 2nd option is that your app stays tied to
django's ecosystem - later you need i18n in a small project and you'll
have to add django just for it. Ok, it is a valid solution, I just
personally prefer to use a external library that is not coupled with a
bunch of unrelated things, and avoid all the monkeypatching mess.
-- rodrigo
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[google-appengine] Non-default app versions: Are they first-class apps?
It's been suggested that a website could use different app versions to support multiple languages or partitioning functions while still getting access to a single datastore. For example, see the last paragraph here (http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1085898/choosing- java-vs-python-on-google-app-engine/1087878#1087878). I was told, though, that non-default app versions could have some throttling or other limitations in place. If so, what are the limitations and is the App Engine team thinking of lifting those limits so all app versions are first-class apps? Thanks, Bill --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Are there any data recovery mechanisms for google app engine database?
Considering Google Reader can't tell me how many unread stories I have when the number is over 1000, I wouldn't count on Google having secret technology that bypasses the limits of BigTable. On Jul 31, 1:19 pm, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote: Any backup/restore that Google can provide should be much more reliable than any roll-your-own system; especially when dealing with the limitation of 1000 entities/query; no long-running-processes, etc. It's important functionality. It almost feels weird to be saying something this basic and obvious. :) johnP On Jul 31, 4:28 am, Ubaldo Huerta uba...@gmail.com wrote: The issue with appcfg.py exporting is that you need to write an Exporter class per entity, etc, etc. It's prone to errors not to mention that it's a fair amount of work. Any professional web endeavor requires contingency plans to recover data in case there is an app error that incorrectly deletes, modifies data. With the exporter thing, you have to write a lot of code, have to export everything since you can't export entities added or updated since last export. Also the data goes out of app engine, so recovery will take a long time. A real solution is to have a backup service to take snapshots and keep them in app engine world. I would bet that this is something that people will be willing to pay for since day one. The critical component of any web app is the data, so please prioritize backup/ recovery feature. I see something related to this as the last item in the road map. I honestly can't believe that an alerting system for exception (which can be implemented with a couple of lines of code in the application) can be possibly more important that backup / recovery mechanism. http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/roadmap.html On Jul 30, 8:31 pm, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi johnP, GAEBAR is certainly one option. The other option is to use the bulk exporting functionality of appcfg.py. Or, you can roll your own using remote_api. -Nick Johnson On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 7:24 PM, johnPj...@thinkwave.com wrote: Thanks - those links to ways of recovering source-code. What I'm interested in is hearing Google's recommendation on backing up and restoring data. GAEBAR is an option, I know. Is the official advice from Google to use it? Backing up and restoring of data seems to be a significant-enough issue to warrant some sort of official guidance:) johnP On Jul 30, 10:14 am, Holger w...@arcor.de wrote: You may be interested in this threadhttp://groups.google.de/group/google-appengine/browse_thread/thread/e... Could just use the zipme script to implement some download capability in case your own source got lost.http://www.manatlan.com/blog/zipme___download_sources_of_your_gae_web... Rename zipme (in app.yaml as well as in script) to something else and use strong passwords to minimize the risk being hacked. On Jul 30, 6:37 pm, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote: Does Google provide any best-practices for implementing a backup process? Thanks! johnP On Jul 30, 2:37 am, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi, It's up to you to take backups of your data. We take regular backups of the datastore, but we're unable to restore individual users' data. -Nick Johnson On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 5:22 AM, DiveIntoGAE taogf1...@gmail.com wrote: If I delete some important datas by mistake, how can I recover them? -- Nick Johnson, Developer Programs Engineer, App Engine -- Nick Johnson, Developer Programs Engineer, App Engine --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: brand new app. 500 error, nothing in the error logs.
Hi shawn, The online tutorial might serve you better and is updated to reflect the latest changes...a little better than the SDK: http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/gettingstarted/ Good luck! On 8/1/09, Shawn A. boris...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Holger, Wow! I could have stared at the file for hours and not noticed that. sometimes all you need is another pair of eyes. Thank you that worked like a charm. Sneaky that it worked in the sdk btw. Thanks, -Shawn On Jul 31, 9:15 pm, Holger w...@arcor.de wrote: Hi Shawn, Try changing your app.yaml to handlers: - url: /.* script: flgs_database.py it's Python and Python sripts have got the ending 'py'. Bye, Holger -- Sent from my mobile device --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: How to translate an application running on GAE?
I've used Babelfish only as a web tool, never an API, so does that
option exist? You can leverage GAE's urlfetch lib and make a remote
call if Babelfish has a REST interface.
On 8/2/09, Emilien Klein emilien.kl...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, thanks Rodrigo for the link to Babel. I had already seen it, but
never used it.
The problem I see with using Babel is that it IS an external library,
which means that I need to integrate it with my project. What I'm
looking for is a way to have a translated application WITHOUT having
to install any external library...
I am looking at
http://makeyjl.blogspot.com/2009/02/using-djangos-i18n-in-google-app-engine.html
right now, and (while I'm not done playing around) I have already been
able to generate .po files, and my application still works OK. I'm
going to continue playing around, and then I'll report here about how
it went. If everything works fine I might even write a Knol article to
explain my steps (the article is not 100% accurate, I had to find out
to add {% load i18n %} in the templates for instance...
If anyone has another way of translating App Engine applications using
only the available tools, fell free to share it!
On 31 juil, 18:17, Rodrigo Moraes rodrigo.mor...@gmail.com wrote:
Now, anwering some other questions.
- I suppose that the .po / .mo files that open source projects
traditionally use can not be used in the App Engine world?
Yes, you can use those files with gettext functions. You'll probably
need to wrap those functions and write some utilities to make it
easier to use - but you don't need to do that because there are
excellent libraries that have done it - Babel is the most known in the
python world (I actually don't know any other).
- Would you have various template files for each languages (like a
contact.en.html, contact.fr.html, contact.nl.html, etc.) and use the
appropriate file depending on the language that has been detected from
the browser header?
No! You would use one template, and have the strings wrapped by a
translation function. The convention is to use a function name _.
Like:
{{ _(This is my string - I'll translate it later, and if not it'll be
in English forever.) }}
There are issues you'll find, like how to handle singular/plural and
string replacements, but existing solutions cover that.
- Would you use a single template file, but pass it the strings one by
one that you would retrieve from the datastore (ouch, just writing
this solution hurts!)
Absolutelly no. The strings are stored in a .po file, which you
compile into a .mo file. This if you go for the widely used gettext.
Note: if you execute the following command from inside the GAE dev
server folder:
find | xargs -i grep -iH i18n \{\}
you will see that a lot of files contain the string i18n, and that all
are related to django. Does that mean that we could use standard
Django internationalization techniques, or is it just that Google
forgot to remove those files?
I tried to use Django's i18n. Unfortunately Django is too tied to
itself and that library is not reusable outside of Django. Fortunately
later I found a standalone, reusable, well written one: Babel. It
works very well.
-- rodrigo
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[google-appengine] Re: How to translate an application running on GAE?
I haven't followed this discussion in detail, but babelfish is easy to
implement in django, however you need a bit of low-level hackery, I
easily got it working (and I am not a regular Python hacker), I had
all the babelfish stuff running db-based (templates and translations),
completely replacing gettext. That project was just a proof-of-
concept. Start with looking the babelfish django integration they are
offering, that shows how to do things (helpful even if you are not
using django)
--
Roberto
On Aug 1, 6:56 pm, Jason Salas digitalpontificat...@gmail.com wrote:
I've used Babelfish only as a web tool, never an API, so does that
option exist? You can leverage GAE's urlfetch lib and make a remote
call if Babelfish has a REST interface.
On 8/2/09, Emilien Klein emilien.kl...@gmail.com wrote:
OK, thanks Rodrigo for the link to Babel. I had already seen it, but
never used it.
The problem I see with using Babel is that it IS an external library,
which means that I need to integrate it with my project. What I'm
looking for is a way to have a translated application WITHOUT having
to install any external library...
I am looking at
http://makeyjl.blogspot.com/2009/02/using-djangos-i18n-in-google-app-...
right now, and (while I'm not done playing around) I have already been
able to generate .po files, and my application still works OK. I'm
going to continue playing around, and then I'll report here about how
it went. If everything works fine I might even write a Knol article to
explain my steps (the article is not 100% accurate, I had to find out
to add {% load i18n %} in the templates for instance...
If anyone has another way of translating App Engine applications using
only the available tools, fell free to share it!
On 31 juil, 18:17, Rodrigo Moraes rodrigo.mor...@gmail.com wrote:
Now, anwering some other questions.
- I suppose that the .po / .mo files that open source projects
traditionally use can not be used in the App Engine world?
Yes, you can use those files with gettext functions. You'll probably
need to wrap those functions and write some utilities to make it
easier to use - but you don't need to do that because there are
excellent libraries that have done it - Babel is the most known in the
python world (I actually don't know any other).
- Would you have various template files for each languages (like a
contact.en.html, contact.fr.html, contact.nl.html, etc.) and use the
appropriate file depending on the language that has been detected from
the browser header?
No! You would use one template, and have the strings wrapped by a
translation function. The convention is to use a function name _.
Like:
{{ _(This is my string - I'll translate it later, and if not it'll be
in English forever.) }}
There are issues you'll find, like how to handle singular/plural and
string replacements, but existing solutions cover that.
- Would you use a single template file, but pass it the strings one by
one that you would retrieve from the datastore (ouch, just writing
this solution hurts!)
Absolutelly no. The strings are stored in a .po file, which you
compile into a .mo file. This if you go for the widely used gettext.
Note: if you execute the following command from inside the GAE dev
server folder:
find | xargs -i grep -iH i18n \{\}
you will see that a lot of files contain the string i18n, and that all
are related to django. Does that mean that we could use standard
Django internationalization techniques, or is it just that Google
forgot to remove those files?
I tried to use Django's i18n. Unfortunately Django is too tied to
itself and that library is not reusable outside of Django. Fortunately
later I found a standalone, reusable, well written one: Babel. It
works very well.
-- rodrigo
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