Re: [google-appengine] Suddenly e-mails sent by my app are not delivered

2011-10-21 Thread PK
Please, let's not mix "apples and oranges"

Regarding the post that started this thread, it took about three hours and 
then the e-mails were delivered. Usually---for about a year now-- it has 
been taking seconds!!

Anyway, everything seems fine right now again for me, and e-mails take 
seconds to be delivered.

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Re: [google-appengine] Suddenly e-mails sent by my app are not delivered

2011-10-21 Thread Leandro Rezende
no  no, i can wait days, they dont go... i recive this exception msg
-> MailService
IO failed (java.io.IOException: Internal error)
2011/10/21 Rori Stumpf 

> I've seen some delays in the last hour... maybe the emails will go through.
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Re: [google-appengine] Suddenly e-mails sent by my app are not delivered

2011-10-21 Thread Rori Stumpf
I've seen some delays in the last hour... maybe the emails will go through.

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Re: [google-appengine] New free Datastore backup tool announcement

2011-10-21 Thread Phil McDonnell
Anyone using this?  Anyone know of other solutions?

Thanks,
Phil

On Tue, Aug 30, 2011 at 6:45 AM, Eli  wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I'd like to introduce you to our newly released App Engine Datastore
> backup tool: DatastoreBackup.
> We all wanted it for a long time.
> Get it at:
> http://www.datastorebackup.com
>
> It can do incremental backups, compression and lots more.
>
> Go get it!
>
> Eli,
> http://www.datastorebackup.com
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Re: [google-appengine] Suddenly e-mails sent by my app are not delivered

2011-10-21 Thread Leandro Rezende
i have this same problem.

try to create another application (with another name) and deploy it, see if
it work.. this is what i did.

but i guess the problem will occur again, so i will have do create another
one... i hope they fix this bug


2011/10/21 PK 

> I am not sure where they get dropped but definitely there is no error
> returned from msg.send().
>
> I filed a production issue but I am wondering if anybody else has had
> similar issues. This feature has been working for a long time, I recently
> transitioned to HRD and worked there for about a week until suddenly it
> stopped working today.
>
> Thanks,
> PK
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Re: [google-appengine] Send Email on GAE

2011-10-21 Thread Leandro Rezende
Recipients Emailed
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0%0 of 2,000
this is the quota status... so its not the problem...

2011/10/21 Martin Waller 

> In that case I'd wait until your quota get reset and try them both then.
>
> Martin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 21 Oct 2011, at 18:35, Leandro Rezende 
> wrote:
>
> i dont understand why it ALWAYS work in one application and never work at
> the other.
>
> they both dont have billing turned on.
>
> 2011/10/21 Martin Waller 
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> If you don't have billing turned on the chances are it will fail!
>>
>> Martin
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 20 Oct 2011, at 05:23, Leandro Rezende 
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I have Two applications with the same Code, the same onwer in the same
>> > google account.
>> > One of them the emails are sent, in the other it fails and i receive
>> > this exception msg " MailService IO failed (java.io.IOException:
>> > Internal error)"
>> >
>> > this is the code
>> >
>> >  String SMTP_AUTH_USER ="x...@gmail.com";
>> >  Properties props = new Properties();
>> >
>> >Session session = Session.getDefaultInstance(props, null);
>> >try
>> >{
>> >Message msg = new MimeMessage(session);
>> >msg.setFrom(new InternetAddress(SMTP_AUTH_USER, "Admin"));
>> >msg.addRecipient(Message.RecipientType.TO,new
>> > InternetAddress("u...@email.com","User Name"));
>> >msg.setSubject(titulo);
>> >msg.setContent(texto, "text/html");
>> >Transport.send(msg);
>> >}
>> >catch (Exception e)
>> >{
>> >System.err.println(e.getMessage());
>> >}
>> >
>> > does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
>> >
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[google-appengine] Re: high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-21 Thread Philip
Knowing about shards, I like them to be transparent when possible.
Using defined entity groups everywhere I write data gives me control,
but also seems to be an extra step in the model design that would have
major implications if I wanted to change them. With the limited
capabilities of GQL, reorganizing data appears to be a major chore
with the datastore.

In the world of shared data, having a design of one entity group per
user seems too limiting. I will try to design the entity groups around
the sharing model (what is shared) and hopefully not the opposite
(where technology drives the business decisions rather than the other
way around).

Thank you all for the good answers.

On Oct 21, 1:37 pm, Jeff Schnitzer  wrote:
> You have a mild conceptual misunderstanding - you are always using entity
> groups whenever you use the datastore, both for M/S and HR.  If you do
> nothing special, every entity will go into its own entity group so you can
> write to each one at 1/sec.  But this involves tradeoffs WRT transactions
> and eventual consistency.
>
> Another alternative is to put your entire database in a single entity group,
> which gives you perfect consistency and transactionality but limits you to 1
> write per second.  Obviously this is pretty preposterous, so in reality you
> will need to create a balance of entity grouping.  The rule of thumb of "one
> user's data" is not a bad one, but it's not a hard and fast rule.
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Philip  wrote:
> > So that's what seems odd to me. The HR datastore is best used with
> > entity groups and yet there is such a huge limit on its throughput.
>
> > Since we can't rely on memcached values staying around (since they
> > might be purged at any time), there seems to be no decent workaround
> > for having immediately consistent reads (in case memcache is purged)
> > without being limited to 1 write per second.
>
> > Do I have that write (pun intended)?
>
> > On Oct 21, 12:32 pm, Steve Sherrie  wrote:
> > > This just refers to the entity group write limit that is the same in
> > > both MS and HR datastores.
>
> > > On 11-10-21 03:30 PM, Philip wrote:
>
> > > > I am concerned about the statement:
>
> > > > "This allows queries on a single guestbook to be strongly consistent,
> > > > but also limits changes to the guestbook to * 1 write per second *
> > > > (the supported limit for entity groups)."
> > > >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/overview.html
> > .
>
> > > > Is it true that writes are limited to 1 per second when using the high
> > > > replication datastore or is this an old limitation?
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[google-appengine] Suddenly e-mails sent by my app are not delivered

2011-10-21 Thread PK
I am not sure where they get dropped but definitely there is no error 
returned from msg.send().

I filed a production issue but I am wondering if anybody else has had 
similar issues. This feature has been working for a long time, I recently 
transitioned to HRD and worked there for about a week until suddenly it 
stopped working today.

Thanks,
PK

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Re: [google-appengine] do cross group transactions alleviate the need for entity parents (ancestors)?

2011-10-21 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Philip  wrote:

> I am converting an app to the high replication datastore. I have read
> that each entity needs to have a parent in order to have consistent
> reads in queries that return multiple entities.
>
> 1. If I use a cross group transaction does that make queries
> immediately consistent even if added entities don't have parents
> (ancestors)?
>

No.


> 2. Does using a parent (an ancestor query) speed up queries that
> return multiple entities?
>

I'd like to know the answer to this too.  I suspect yes.


> 3. Should I just be using parents and regular (single entity group)
> transactions instead of cross group transactions for performance
> reasons?
>

It's one tool in the toolbox.  G says an XG transaction with two groups
takes twice as long as a single group transaction, so it halves your
throughput.  If either of these entities are under contention, this could be
a significant issue.  On the other hand, a single entity group can limit
throughput in other ways.  There's no one right answer here.

Jeff

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-21 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
You have a mild conceptual misunderstanding - you are always using entity
groups whenever you use the datastore, both for M/S and HR.  If you do
nothing special, every entity will go into its own entity group so you can
write to each one at 1/sec.  But this involves tradeoffs WRT transactions
and eventual consistency.

Another alternative is to put your entire database in a single entity group,
which gives you perfect consistency and transactionality but limits you to 1
write per second.  Obviously this is pretty preposterous, so in reality you
will need to create a balance of entity grouping.  The rule of thumb of "one
user's data" is not a bad one, but it's not a hard and fast rule.

Jeff

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Philip  wrote:

> So that's what seems odd to me. The HR datastore is best used with
> entity groups and yet there is such a huge limit on its throughput.
>
> Since we can't rely on memcached values staying around (since they
> might be purged at any time), there seems to be no decent workaround
> for having immediately consistent reads (in case memcache is purged)
> without being limited to 1 write per second.
>
> Do I have that write (pun intended)?
>
> On Oct 21, 12:32 pm, Steve Sherrie  wrote:
> > This just refers to the entity group write limit that is the same in
> > both MS and HR datastores.
> >
> > On 11-10-21 03:30 PM, Philip wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > I am concerned about the statement:
> >
> > > "This allows queries on a single guestbook to be strongly consistent,
> > > but also limits changes to the guestbook to * 1 write per second *
> > > (the supported limit for entity groups)."
> > >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/overview.html
> .
> >
> > > Is it true that writes are limited to 1 per second when using the high
> > > replication datastore or is this an old limitation?
>
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Re: [google-appengine] high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-21 Thread Joshua Smith
Yes, you do.

Welcome to the wonderful awful world of creating applications that will scale.

Go learn about sharded counters next. :)

On Oct 21, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Philip wrote:

> So that's what seems odd to me. The HR datastore is best used with
> entity groups and yet there is such a huge limit on its throughput.
> 
> Since we can't rely on memcached values staying around (since they
> might be purged at any time), there seems to be no decent workaround
> for having immediately consistent reads (in case memcache is purged)
> without being limited to 1 write per second.
> 
> Do I have that write (pun intended)?
> 
> On Oct 21, 12:32 pm, Steve Sherrie  wrote:
>> This just refers to the entity group write limit that is the same in
>> both MS and HR datastores.
>> 
>> On 11-10-21 03:30 PM, Philip wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I am concerned about the statement:
>> 
>>> "This allows queries on a single guestbook to be strongly consistent,
>>> but also limits changes to the guestbook to * 1 write per second *
>>> (the supported limit for entity groups)."
>>> http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/overview.html.
>> 
>>> Is it true that writes are limited to 1 per second when using the high
>>> replication datastore or is this an old limitation?
> 
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[google-appengine] Re: high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-21 Thread Philip
So that's what seems odd to me. The HR datastore is best used with
entity groups and yet there is such a huge limit on its throughput.

Since we can't rely on memcached values staying around (since they
might be purged at any time), there seems to be no decent workaround
for having immediately consistent reads (in case memcache is purged)
without being limited to 1 write per second.

Do I have that write (pun intended)?

On Oct 21, 12:32 pm, Steve Sherrie  wrote:
> This just refers to the entity group write limit that is the same in
> both MS and HR datastores.
>
> On 11-10-21 03:30 PM, Philip wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I am concerned about the statement:
>
> > "This allows queries on a single guestbook to be strongly consistent,
> > but also limits changes to the guestbook to * 1 write per second *
> > (the supported limit for entity groups)."
> >http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/overview.html.
>
> > Is it true that writes are limited to 1 per second when using the high
> > replication datastore or is this an old limitation?

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Re: [google-appengine] high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-21 Thread Steve Sherrie
This just refers to the entity group write limit that is the same in 
both MS and HR datastores.


On 11-10-21 03:30 PM, Philip wrote:

I am concerned about the statement:

"This allows queries on a single guestbook to be strongly consistent,
but also limits changes to the guestbook to * 1 write per second *
(the supported limit for entity groups)."
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/overview.html.

Is it true that writes are limited to 1 per second when using the high
replication datastore or is this an old limitation?



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[google-appengine] high replication datastore limited to 1 write per second?!

2011-10-21 Thread Philip
I am concerned about the statement:

"This allows queries on a single guestbook to be strongly consistent,
but also limits changes to the guestbook to * 1 write per second *
(the supported limit for entity groups)."
http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/overview.html.

Is it true that writes are limited to 1 per second when using the high
replication datastore or is this an old limitation?

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[google-appengine] do cross group transactions alleviate the need for entity parents (ancestors)?

2011-10-21 Thread Philip
I am converting an app to the high replication datastore. I have read
that each entity needs to have a parent in order to have consistent
reads in queries that return multiple entities.

1. If I use a cross group transaction does that make queries
immediately consistent even if added entities don't have parents
(ancestors)?

2. Does using a parent (an ancestor query) speed up queries that
return multiple entities?

3. Should I just be using parents and regular (single entity group)
transactions instead of cross group transactions for performance
reasons?

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RE: [google-appengine] App Engine Chat Time!

2011-10-21 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Wander down to the search team. Have them send the guy a panda penalty. :-)
It is nearly as effective.

 

If any org has the ability to "ban people from the Internet" it's you guys.

 

BTW when you wander down to see them send them some thanks from me. One of
my ancient sandboxes for watching how the crawlers worked (totally worthless
content) go relisted day before yesterday and did 140k page views its first
day back.   Now if only my legit sites would do as well. Oh, but GAE scaled
up beautifully thanks for that. 

 

-Brandon

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: [google-appengine] Send Email on GAE

2011-10-21 Thread Martin Waller
In that case I'd wait until your quota get reset and try them both then.

Martin

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On 21 Oct 2011, at 18:35, Leandro Rezende  wrote:

> i dont understand why it ALWAYS work in one application and never work at the 
> other.
> 
> they both dont have billing turned on.
> 
> 2011/10/21 Martin Waller 
> Hello,
> 
> If you don't have billing turned on the chances are it will fail!
> 
> Martin
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 20 Oct 2011, at 05:23, Leandro Rezende  wrote:
> 
> > I have Two applications with the same Code, the same onwer in the same
> > google account.
> > One of them the emails are sent, in the other it fails and i receive
> > this exception msg " MailService IO failed (java.io.IOException:
> > Internal error)"
> >
> > this is the code
> >
> >  String SMTP_AUTH_USER ="x...@gmail.com";
> >  Properties props = new Properties();
> >
> >Session session = Session.getDefaultInstance(props, null);
> >try
> >{
> >Message msg = new MimeMessage(session);
> >msg.setFrom(new InternetAddress(SMTP_AUTH_USER, "Admin"));
> >msg.addRecipient(Message.RecipientType.TO,new
> > InternetAddress("u...@email.com","User Name"));
> >msg.setSubject(titulo);
> >msg.setContent(texto, "text/html");
> >Transport.send(msg);
> >}
> >catch (Exception e)
> >{
> >System.err.println(e.getMessage());
> >}
> >
> > does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
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Re: [google-appengine] Send Email on GAE

2011-10-21 Thread Leandro Rezende
i dont understand why it ALWAYS work in one application and never work at
the other.

they both dont have billing turned on.

2011/10/21 Martin Waller 

> Hello,
>
> If you don't have billing turned on the chances are it will fail!
>
> Martin
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 20 Oct 2011, at 05:23, Leandro Rezende 
> wrote:
>
> > I have Two applications with the same Code, the same onwer in the same
> > google account.
> > One of them the emails are sent, in the other it fails and i receive
> > this exception msg " MailService IO failed (java.io.IOException:
> > Internal error)"
> >
> > this is the code
> >
> >  String SMTP_AUTH_USER ="x...@gmail.com";
> >  Properties props = new Properties();
> >
> >Session session = Session.getDefaultInstance(props, null);
> >try
> >{
> >Message msg = new MimeMessage(session);
> >msg.setFrom(new InternetAddress(SMTP_AUTH_USER, "Admin"));
> >msg.addRecipient(Message.RecipientType.TO,new
> > InternetAddress("u...@email.com","User Name"));
> >msg.setSubject(titulo);
> >msg.setContent(texto, "text/html");
> >Transport.send(msg);
> >}
> >catch (Exception e)
> >{
> >System.err.println(e.getMessage());
> >}
> >
> > does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
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[google-appengine] Re: HRD uses more datastore writes?

2011-10-21 Thread Jason Collins
My datastore writes comparison (0.72M/day to 1.45M/day) is using data
all from the "new pricing" portion.

Somehow, my datastore writes doubled precisely on the day that I
migrated to HRD. My new pricing costs correspondingly doubled from
$0.67 to $1.40.

While there may be no difference in the number of writes between M-S
and HRD, is there any possibility that there is a problem in the
accounting?

j

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Re: [google-appengine] App Engine Chat Time!

2011-10-21 Thread Ikai Lan (Google)
Goddammit these spammers are getting smarter. Don't click this link.

I wish I had the power to ban people from the internet.

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On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:13 PM, boomika velu wrote:

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Re: [google-appengine] Mail API stops sending email from one admin address, still sends from others

2011-10-21 Thread Leandro Rezende
I have the same problem,  but in the same google account in different
applications. i dont know what to do.

when the problem begin to happend, i have to create a new google
application, copy all the data from the old datastore to it, and deploy the
application again. So at the "new" application, it works. Them i delete the
"bugged" application.

at least u are sending 10k email, i cant send more than 30 and it bugs.

2011/10/21 Nevin Freeman 

> My app sends an email to about 10k people every morning (we are a news
> website, and send out an alert that tells people what the new stories
> are). Until today it's worked really well (for over a year). It sends
> from an address that is registered as an admin (since that's required)
> which is not used by anyone other than the app for this purpose.
>
> Starting today, calls to the Mail API cause an email to be sent
> *unless* the sender is that address. I noticed this when the daily
> emails weren't actually sent out, and did some testing with the remote
> shell:
>
> riabizdev> test_two = mail.EmailMessage(sender='ne...@riabiz.com',
> to='nevin.free...@gmail.com', subject='TEST', body='TEST')
> riabizdev> test_two.send()  # Actually works, the email hits my inbox
>
> riabizdev> test_two = mail.EmailMessage(sender='f...@riabiz.com',
> to='nevin.free...@gmail.com', subject='TEST', body='TEST')
> riabizdev> test_two.send()  # Doesn't throw an error, but no email
> ever makes it
>
> The first obvious mishap would be that the emails are getting filtered
> into people's spam folder. I use an invisible image to track email
> opens though, and zero were opened today, as compared to many
> thousands on an average day, so I'm very confident that this isn't the
> problem. I at least know for sure that my test emails never made it to
> my own spam folder.
>
> I tried sending out the batch of 10k a few times during the day and
> got nothing. At the end of this testing, I swapped out another admin
> email and it worked fine. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
> Nevin
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Re: [google-appengine] Send Email on GAE

2011-10-21 Thread Martin Waller
Hello,

If you don't have billing turned on the chances are it will fail! 

Martin

Sent from my iPhone

On 20 Oct 2011, at 05:23, Leandro Rezende  wrote:

> I have Two applications with the same Code, the same onwer in the same
> google account.
> One of them the emails are sent, in the other it fails and i receive
> this exception msg " MailService IO failed (java.io.IOException:
> Internal error)"
> 
> this is the code
> 
>  String SMTP_AUTH_USER ="x...@gmail.com";
>  Properties props = new Properties();
> 
>Session session = Session.getDefaultInstance(props, null);
>try
>{
>Message msg = new MimeMessage(session);
>msg.setFrom(new InternetAddress(SMTP_AUTH_USER, "Admin"));
>msg.addRecipient(Message.RecipientType.TO,new
> InternetAddress("u...@email.com","User Name"));
>msg.setSubject(titulo);
>msg.setContent(texto, "text/html");
>Transport.send(msg);
>}
>catch (Exception e)
>{
>System.err.println(e.getMessage());
>}
> 
> does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
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[google-appengine] simulator

2011-10-21 Thread mukesh more
please  help me can we use the google appengine as simulator for my
project

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[google-appengine] Write transactions when request time out

2011-10-21 Thread Krishna Chaitanya Thanuku
Hi all, my name is Chaitanya. I am newbie to google app engine. I have been 
reading about app engine from yesterday. I read about the quota and limits 
too.

I have a doubt regarding this. For instance, suppose that I am creating 
10,000 objects and saving all those to the datastore in a single 
transaction(DataStoreService). I guess dataStorService.put(entity) is like a 
Hibernate transaction. Now that, after putting 5000 objects to the datastore 
the 30 seconds limit for a request execution has been timed out.

Now what about the rest of the 5000 objects? I head 
herethat

With the App Engine datastore, every attempt to create, update or delete an 
> entity happens in a *transaction*. A transaction ensures that every change 
> made to the entity is saved to the datastore, or, in the case of failure, 
> none of the changes are made. This ensures consistency of data within an 
> entity.


Is it true? If the transaction fails, the rest of 5000 objects are also 
discarded from the datastore?

Can anyone help me understand this better?

Thank you all in advance, good day.

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[google-appengine] Send Email on GAE

2011-10-21 Thread Leandro Rezende
I have Two applications with the same Code, the same onwer in the same
google account.
One of them the emails are sent, in the other it fails and i receive
this exception msg " MailService IO failed (java.io.IOException:
Internal error)"

this is the code

  String SMTP_AUTH_USER ="x...@gmail.com";
  Properties props = new Properties();

Session session = Session.getDefaultInstance(props, null);
try
{
Message msg = new MimeMessage(session);
msg.setFrom(new InternetAddress(SMTP_AUTH_USER, "Admin"));
msg.addRecipient(Message.RecipientType.TO,new
InternetAddress("u...@email.com","User Name"));
msg.setSubject(titulo);
msg.setContent(texto, "text/html");
Transport.send(msg);
}
catch (Exception e)
{
System.err.println(e.getMessage());
}

does anyone have any idea why this is happening?

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[google-appengine] App Engine Chat Time!

2011-10-21 Thread boomika velu
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[google-appengine] Re: HRD uses more datastore writes?

2011-10-21 Thread Renzo Nuccitelli
 I didn´t  know it was just to testers. I have sent the mail when they
offer it to test and I have migrated my app to HRD too. Great tool.
Only blobs from blostore were not migrated, but i could move around
this problem.

On 19 out, 15:54, Jason Collins  wrote:
> I believe the tool is still in Trusted Tester phase.
> j
>
> On Oct 18, 6:01 pm, Will  wrote:> Jason,
>
> > Where is the automatic migration tool? I looked all places but
> > couldn't find it. Is it the "Copy to Another App" button on the
> > "Datastore Admin" page?
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Will
>
> > On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Jason Collins
>
> >  wrote:
> > > I had a M-S app that was very regularly, daily, using around .73M
> > > datastore writes for a daily cost of around $0.68.
>
> > > I used the automatic migration tool to migrate this app to HRD.
>
> > > Now, it uses around 1.44M datastore writes for a daily cost of around
> > > $1.39 (or roughly double).
>
> > > Is this correct? Does the HRD really consume double the number of
> > > writes?
>
> > > If so, given that the cost of HRD was dropped to "be the same as M-S"
> > > to encourage people to migrate, it's rather unfortunate.
>
> > > It could be that there's something else I'm not considering...
>
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[google-appengine] can possible to transfer data in mysql on localhost??

2011-10-21 Thread nikesh
Hi sir,
this is nikesh
i'm new in app engine...
i'm creating a simple web application with  jpa on localhost...
and i want to store my data in mysql database on localhost...
is it possible???

thank you!

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: HRD uses more datastore writes?

2011-10-21 Thread Simon Knott
He seems to be comparing the number of writes:

 - Datastore writes went from 0.72M / day to 1.45M / day
>

This is the new model isn't it? 

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: HRD uses more datastore writes?

2011-10-21 Thread Alfred Fuller
Wait, are you comparing the old pricing model or the new pricing model
(since you attributed the cost to writes I just assumed you were talking
about the new pricing model)? In the old pricing model HRD writes cost more
(~3x).

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 8:18 AM, Jason Collins wrote:

> This is making me crazy. I just cannot find the difference in the apps
> (M-S vs HRD). The traffic patterns appear to be the same. The total
> number of entities is very similar.
>
> When I migrated from M-S to HRD:
>
>  - Using the current billing, the app went from $0.00 / day to $1.19 /
> day.
>  - Using future billing, the app went from $0.67 / day to $1.40 / day.
>  - Datastore writes went from 0.72M / day to 1.45M / day.
>  - All of the cost difference is attributable to datastore writes.
>
> There is almost no variance day-to-day with these numbers. The app has
> basically zero public traffic and does the same cron-based processing
> every day. The change coincided _directly_ with my migration to HRD.
>
> _Any_ ideas?
> j
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Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?

2011-10-21 Thread Simon Knott
I believe those costs are based on the old model, where datastore 
reads/writes were charged on a CPU basis.

It sounds like Jason's increase is in actual write counts, which is relevant 
for the new pricing model.

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[google-appengine] Re: Memcache failing fetch about once every 5 or 6 seconds.

2011-10-21 Thread Gerald Tan
AFAIK there is no uptime guarantees on memcache, and I see memcache failures 
appearing from time to time.
Your app should probably be written to handle memcache exceptions 
gracefully.

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Re: [google-appengine] HRD uses more datastore writes?

2011-10-21 Thread Diego Ariel Fejgelis
Are you sure the writes are the same in both datastores?

When looking here[1], gives me the impression that HR cost is bigger than 
MS.

[1] http://code.google.com/appengine/docs/python/datastore/hr/

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[google-appengine] Re: HRD uses more datastore writes?

2011-10-21 Thread Jason Collins
This is making me crazy. I just cannot find the difference in the apps
(M-S vs HRD). The traffic patterns appear to be the same. The total
number of entities is very similar.

When I migrated from M-S to HRD:

 - Using the current billing, the app went from $0.00 / day to $1.19 /
day.
 - Using future billing, the app went from $0.67 / day to $1.40 / day.
 - Datastore writes went from 0.72M / day to 1.45M / day.
 - All of the cost difference is attributable to datastore writes.

There is almost no variance day-to-day with these numbers. The app has
basically zero public traffic and does the same cron-based processing
every day. The change coincided _directly_ with my migration to HRD.

_Any_ ideas?
j

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[google-appengine] Memcache failing fetch about once every 5 or 6 seconds.

2011-10-21 Thread Eurig Jones
Also I experienced an seperate issue yesterday of which I had no
alternative but to implement an emergency patch.

I had a memcache fetching a boolean on each request. The fetch started
failing about 1 request every 6 seconds (I had load of about 6 req/sec
at the the time), so I had to do an emergency patch to remove the
memcache fetch.

This has never happened before, and GAE status was not reporting any
issues.

Has limits now been imposed on memcache?

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[google-appengine] Re: pleas I need help

2011-10-21 Thread Ernesto Oltra
To start with, you have to install Python2.5, not 2.7. And then try to copy 
the full output, not only a line and we'll have more info to help you.

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[google-appengine] Re: Anyone else seeing a huge spike in deadline errors on MS datastore?

2011-10-21 Thread Sharp-Developer.Net
We have the same issue. Our site was mostly down for at least 5-10 mins.

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[google-appengine] Anyone else seeing a huge spike in deadline errors on MS datastore?

2011-10-21 Thread Kenneth
It may only be happening on calls where we set the timeout in the rpc? 
 There seem to be some general serving issues as well.

I've put in a production issue.

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[google-appengine] Re: help with managing custom domains in Google Apps

2011-10-21 Thread Philip
Never mind. I figured it out.

Even though I had the mydomain2.com alias verified using Google Apps,
I needed to use the "base" domain (mydomain1.com) for the Google Apps
account to start the process of associating the Google App Engine apps
with Google Apps.

On Oct 21, 1:27 am, Philip  wrote:
> I want to manage multiple domains and applications in a single Google
> Apps account, if possible.
>
> Here is what I would like to manage in a single Google Apps account
> (i.e. dashboard):
>
> www.mydomain1.com         ->   app engine app 01
>
> www.mydomain2.com         ->   app engine app 02
>
> api.mydomain2.com                       ->   app engine app 03
>
> developers.mydomain2.com        ->   app engine app 04
>
> 1. Is there a way to do this with Google Apps?
>
> 2. Do I need to have 2 different accounts, one for mydomain1 and
> another for mydomain2?
>
> 3. Also, the management console seems to limit me to one application.
> How do I map multiple applications?
>
> Thank you for your help.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Huge spikes in requests per second recently

2011-10-21 Thread Johan Euphrosine
If you are affected by this, please open a production issue with your
application id:
http://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/entry?template=Production%20issue

Thanks in advance.

On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
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> Hi
>
> appid: devel-inchallah
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Re: [google-appengine] help with managing custom domains in Google Apps

2011-10-21 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Philip  wrote:

>
> 1. Is there a way to do this with Google Apps?
>

Yes, you can do this with domain aliases, but you shouldn't.


> 2. Do I need to have 2 different accounts, one for mydomain1 and
> another for mydomain2?
>

This is a better solution.  It lets you transfer mydomain2 to someone else
(say, you sold the business) without suffering the inexcusable ONE WEEK of
downtime required to detach a domain alias from a google apps account.


> 3. Also, the management console seems to limit me to one application.
> How do I map multiple applications?
>

It's not clear what you mean here.  Which management console?  Google apps
or appengine?

Jeff

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[google-appengine] help with managing custom domains in Google Apps

2011-10-21 Thread Philip
I want to manage multiple domains and applications in a single Google
Apps account, if possible.

Here is what I would like to manage in a single Google Apps account
(i.e. dashboard):

www.mydomain1.com   ->  app engine app 01

www.mydomain2.com   ->  app engine app 02

api.mydomain2.com   ->  app engine app 03

developers.mydomain2.com->  app engine app 04

1. Is there a way to do this with Google Apps?

2. Do I need to have 2 different accounts, one for mydomain1 and
another for mydomain2?

3. Also, the management console seems to limit me to one application.
How do I map multiple applications?

Thank you for your help.

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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Huge spikes in requests per second recently

2011-10-21 Thread Sahid Orentino Ferdjaoui
Hi

appid: devel-inchallah

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[google-appengine] does the zope package available in GAE?

2011-10-21 Thread Xi Shen
Hi,

I noticed if you import zope in linux, it is said to be a build-in package; 
but if you import zope in windows, it is an external package. So, I just 
wonder if I should include the zope package in my GAE application.

Does anyone have knowledge about this?

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[google-appengine] Re: Huge spikes in requests per second recently

2011-10-21 Thread pman
have a look on this http://www.freeimagehosting.net/8e2df

what happened?


On Oct 21, 3:05 pm, "Brandon Wirtz"  wrote:
> Did you check your logs to see what the user agent was?
>
> Could be Google DOTS
>
> Or Bing Found you
>
> Or some one is DDoSing you
>
> Could be your site is suddenly popular.
>
> From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gregory D'alesandre
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:36 PM
> To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Huge spikes in requests per second
> recently
>
> Would you be willing to let me know your appids so that I could see what you
> are talking about?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Juha K  wrote:
>
> I've experienced the same. My app usually gets 20 - 50 requests per second.
> Since few days ago it has started to get spikes hitting up to ~150 requests
> per second. I don't see anything unusual in the logs. The load to my app
> should be quite constant, nothing like the graph shows. From the graph I
> would say there's a spike roughly once per hour.
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RE: [google-appengine] Re: Huge spikes in requests per second recently

2011-10-21 Thread Brandon Wirtz
Did you check your logs to see what the user agent was?

 

Could be Google DOTS

Or Bing Found you

Or some one is DDoSing you

Could be your site is suddenly popular.

 

From: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
[mailto:google-appengine@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Gregory D'alesandre
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 11:36 PM
To: google-appengine@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [google-appengine] Re: Huge spikes in requests per second
recently

 

Would you be willing to let me know your appids so that I could see what you
are talking about?

 

Thanks!

 

Greg

On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Juha K  wrote:

I've experienced the same. My app usually gets 20 - 50 requests per second.
Since few days ago it has started to get spikes hitting up to ~150 requests
per second. I don't see anything unusual in the logs. The load to my app
should be quite constant, nothing like the graph shows. From the graph I
would say there's a spike roughly once per hour. 

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