[google-appengine] New pricing model - Lessons we've learnt
Avoid vendor lock-in. I feel stupid for using Google Webapp framework instead of Tornado, Channel API instead of SocketIO / TornadoIO, Google Datastore instead of MongoDB etc. I may have to rewrite the app http://www.review19.com that I had just released yesterday! :-) Time to look for positives and lessons out of this and move on! :-) -- Srirangan | About http://srirangan.net/about Bloghttp://srirangan.net GitHub https://github.com/Srirangan LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/srirangan Twitter http://twitter.com/srirangan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Google App Engine multi-entity-group transactions testing
Johan, Will Google be addressing the numerous questions being asked about the new pricing model that has been imposed? Thanks, Sri -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/QJ1iX4_oW7YJ. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Class Action Lawsuit ?
Well, I am not an expert on these matters, but more than any loss in the lawsuit, the brand being damaged will be a bigger headache for Google. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/35WrZ0R3XQ8J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Google setting a precedent for unstable cloud-compute billing
If I read correctly, moving from Python 2.5 - 2.7 will reduce billing charges for everybody. Hey Google, Why not introduce the new billing after introducing 2.7? On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 7:44 AM, John Wheeler j...@highvolumeseller.comwrote: Also, bums me out that I saw you guys offering to help a customer with $27000 of resource usage or whatever. Since then I saw you've edited the post where you said to this customer, We'll work through this with you What about your other customers like your $60 customers? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/google-appengine/-/w-JCJDcqfH0J. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Srirangan | About http://srirangan.net/about Bloghttp://srirangan.net GitHub https://github.com/Srirangan LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/srirangan Twitter http://twitter.com/srirangan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Keep it short: Who is forced to leave GAE?
Hi Martin, Thanks for sharing Beacon push. There are a couple of other such services as well. I evaluated them before opting for Channel API for Review19http://www.review19.com . Reason being, the list of people to broadcast to is dynamic. For my app, there aren't fixed rooms or groups but the broadcast recipients changes frequently. Channel API doesn't impose any rules, and forces you to persist client state on the server. This initially feels wrong but can be a blessing in disguise as you optimize the logic to decide the broadcast recipients. I'm not saying Beacon Push and similar services are bad. They just didn't work as well as Channel API for my use case. - Sri On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Martin Ceperley mar...@ceperley.com wrote: Richard, a good alternative to the Channel API is Beacon Push ( http://beaconpush.com/) we have been using it and it's dead simple and works flawlessly. It supports broadcast messaging (with channel API does not out of the box) as well as per-user messaging. Also extremely affordable, 3 million messages for $3.29. -Martin On Aug 31, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Richard Arrano wrote: I'll be leaving if some of the prices aren't tweaked, particularly the channels. I was banking on being able to use a large amount of channels, likely in the thousands per day. I did a double take when I realized the new price was per hundred rather than per thousand, particularly when channels expire after two hours and need to be re- created. Does anyone have a good alternative to the Channel API using Amazon's solutions? -Richard On Aug 31, 6:05 pm, Raymond C. windz...@gmail.com wrote: I am not asking who is not happy with the new pricing (virtually most of GAE users). I am just asking who is FORCED to leave GAE because you cannot afford to keep running on GAE under the new pricing model. Please (if possible) state the monthly price change as well. And what options you are considering? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- Srirangan | About http://srirangan.net/about Bloghttp://srirangan.net GitHub https://github.com/Srirangan LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/srirangan Twitter http://twitter.com/srirangan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Keep it short: Who is forced to leave GAE?
I did a double take when I realized the new price was per hundred rather than per thousand,particularly when channels expire after two hours and need to be re-created. Correct me if I am wrong but doesn't this charge apply only after you exceed your free quota or 8000 odd created channels per day? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] Re: Keep it short: Who is forced to leave GAE?
On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM, johnP j...@thinkwave.com wrote: But Robert - you did not address the Root Question: why *should* Google dial back the revenue knob? The mode of operation seems to be: 1. Attract users with free / very low cost, cloud infrastructure 2. Force them to use Google specific APIs aka lock them in 3. Drastically increase prices giving users only a couple of weeks notice 4. Since they're locked in, and can't migrate their app in a couple of weeks, fleece them! I do hope somebody from Google tells me that I am wrong! :-) -- Srirangan | About http://srirangan.net/about Bloghttp://srirangan.net GitHub https://github.com/Srirangan LinkedInhttp://www.linkedin.com/in/srirangan Twitter http://twitter.com/srirangan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
Re: [google-appengine] 1.5.3 is out!
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