[google-appengine] How do I deauthenticate myself from the command prompt deployment script?
I have an App, but I need to upload it to our projects page, which uses a different google account. Since I signed in to upload my own app to my own appspot using my google account, it wont let me upload it to theirs even if I have the login info. In fact it doesn't even prompt for the login info like it prompts for my login info. It just says does not have permission. How do I sign out of the appcfg.py script to I can upload the project and use different credentials? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appeng...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Calculate CPU Hours that app will use
Ok, so my output from Carsten's suggestion was an average of about 7800, so how exactly does that correlate with how much I would be paying (obviously per request) if I was to launch my app on the GAE? I just need a very rough estimate so I can estimate the long term costs. Also how much CPU usage does it take for Google to red flag your app for too much CPU usage if you use paid billing? It would be unfortunate if I launched my app and then all my requests from users timed out because of Google blocking my account because of CPU usage even if I was paying for it. On Jun 15, 5:34 am, Nick Johnson (Google) nick.john...@google.com wrote: Hi Carsten, You're correct that the best way to do this is to run the code on App Engine and see just how many CPU cycles your requests require. You don't need a load test, however: You can see exactly how many CPU milliseconds a request required by looking at the logs page of the admin console. Just run a few tests to get an average. Note that the first request to a runtime instance will generally cost more than subsequent ones; you may want to make this clear by logging something in a request when it's the first one, so you can tell them apart easily. CPU cycles are infuriatingly difficult to convert, with different architectures having different characteristics, even down to per-operation differences. What did you have in mind when you suggest it's something we need to improve? -Nick Johnson On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:51 AM, CarstenN carsten...@gmail.com wrote: I'm interested in the same. I know that you can get the clock-cycles a request used so far by calling quota.get_request_cpu_usage(), but I don't find this to be very useful as an absolute measurement. The docs state (on the quota page): 'CPU time is reported in seconds, which is equivalent to the number of CPU cycles that can be performed by a 1.2 GHz Intel x86 processor in that amount of time. The actual number of CPU cycles spent varies greatly depending on conditions internal to App Engine, so this number is adjusted for reporting purposes using this processor as a reference measurement.' So, in theory, a CPU second would be about 1.2 billion clock cycles. But I highly doubt it works that way in practice. So my current solution is to just implement the CPU intensive parts and hit them with a load test (And have a backup plan in case the CPU usage policies change again). IMHO this is something that Google really needs to improve. App Engine does lack transparency in some areas - and given that it's a product meant to appeal to engineers that's a real flaw. On Jun 14, 2:13 am, mclovin hanoo...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to see if an app would be cost effective to deploy on google's app engine and i guess one of the main areas i am concerned with is CPU usage. Is there a way to calculate how many CPU hours it will use on Google's servers? (the app is already running on my computer via django) I dont think an hour of CPU time on my computer is comparable to a CPU Hour but I guess I may be wrong. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] GQuery and filtering out muliple values with relational operators.
Hey, I have entities stored with x and y values. What I want to do in one of my views is to filter them out by their x and y values. so I have agents = Agent.all() neighbors = agents.filter(x , user.agent.x-10).filter(x , user.agent.x+10).filter(y , user.agent.y-10).filter(y , user.agent.y+10) which would give me all the other agents within 10 spaces of the user's agent making the request. However When I run it I get a relational operator error so I have to do this: agents.filter(x , user.agent.x-10).filter(x , user.agent.x+10) and then iterate through them to filter out the y values manually. or this: agents.filter(y , user.agent.y-10).filter(y , user.agent.y+10) and then iterate through them to filter out the x values manually. So my question is, why cant i filter out both x and y values at the same time on a single query? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Auxiliary Data Processing
Hey all, We developed code and were hoping to use GAE, but it seems as though the CPU usage is simply too high. We would still love to use GAE, however, we were wondering if there was anyway to remotely access the Datastore (hosted on google's servers) w/ C code. Our algorithm was originally developed for CUDA systems so we were hoping that we could just write up a way to access our App's datastore from our own servers because with CUDA we see significant cost savings. If there is not we can simply revert to plan b and use Django on our own servers. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Calculate CPU Hours that app will use
I wanted to see if an app would be cost effective to deploy on google's app engine and i guess one of the main areas i am concerned with is CPU usage. Is there a way to calculate how many CPU hours it will use on Google's servers? (the app is already running on my computer via django) I dont think an hour of CPU time on my computer is comparable to a CPU Hour but I guess I may be wrong. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re-orgranize user data: w or w/o view?
I wrote up a prototype for an application in python and was porting it over to django/app_engine. One of the main routines of my program though is that it goes in and modifies user data. I know I probably shouldn't write a view for this because nothing is being viewed (it is entirely backend) so I am wondering how do i call a function to modify data in the datastore w/o a view or w/o going to a URL. Or is it fine just to use a view? thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Business Class Project: how much would it cost to run this on Google App engine
Hey guys, I hope this is allowed. I am in a business class and our project is like an e-commerce site. One of the things that we have to report on is how much it will cost to run the business. So I thought of Google App Engine, but when I look at the pricing, I have no idea what I am looking at since it is basically all in computing hours. I am pretty sure that it would be cheaper to deploy on google's servers if this business was a startup since they would not have to buy the several thousand dollars in equipment and more money in bandwidth, but I would appreciate some hard numbers. On average (I know that it differs from web app to web app, but I just need a broad ballpark figure), but how much on average does app engine cost for 10k users 100k users 1million users 5 million users ? Thank you --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: Announcing: System Status Dashboard, Quota Details Page, and a Preview of Billing
Am i missing something somewhere? I cant seem to find any pricing for commericial applications even though google advertises app engine as a solution for commericial deployment. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] Re: SMS: through python AIM/gtalk libraries?
Have you tried SMS through aim with imified? On Jan 3, 1:44 pm, satish satish...@gmail.com wrote: I am interested too. I played around with IM integration using the services fromhttp://new.imified.com/and it worked fine for simple functionality. On Jan 1, 2:08 pm, mclovin hanoo...@gmail.com wrote: I wanted to test out some SMS web app, where I can communicate w/ the application from my phone. I was wondering if the App Engine allows me to do this through the use of either AIM libraries or Gtalk Libraries written in python. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[google-appengine] SMS: through python AIM/gtalk libraries?
I wanted to test out some SMS web app, where I can communicate w/ the application from my phone. I was wondering if the App Engine allows me to do this through the use of either AIM libraries or Gtalk Libraries written in python. Thanks --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
