[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-20 Thread Gilberto Torrezan Filho
I just received an e-mail of failed payment today, for the second time in 
one week. There's nothing wrong with my card, according to my bank (I even 
received a SMS about the payment to GAE - I receive a SMS everytime the 
card is used).

I reenabled the card waiting for it to succeed. Let's see what happens.

My theory: you guys just merged the code from Google Wallet you tested at 
Google I/O 2013 registration to the app engine billing system, corrupting 
any form of payment =P

Jokes aside, this kind of issue is really critical. What's the use of 
multiple datacenters, with high replication datastore, with high 
availability and so on... if everything goes down due to lack of payment?

On Monday, August 19, 2013 1:07:22 PM UTC-3, Rae Wang wrote:

 Update: Our billing team has found the issue and fixed it. New charges 
 should succeed now. Our engineers are looking into retrying/recovering the 
 failed ones. As usual, your feedback on the forum is helping us to improve 
 our system. We really appreciate it. Thank you.

 On Friday, August 16, 2013 11:53:31 PM UTC-7, Rae Wang wrote:

 Thank you for bringing these issues to our attention. We are seeing a 
 number of payment failures on GAE accounts recently and are actively 
 investigating issues on our side. Sorry about the inconvenience it has 
 caused you. We are working on resolving the issues. 


 On Friday, August 16, 2013 12:55:57 PM UTC-7, Ken Bowen wrote:

 I also got 
 couldn't process a payment with your Visa…...for $0.02 on Aug 
 4, 2013.   

 It's a Citicard that has been on the GAE account for many months (and 
 the card has be in continual use for over 10 years).  I only got the email 
 yesterday (8/15).  I called Citibank.  They checked and stated that the 
 charge was presented on Aug 3, and that it was approved, and there were no 
 presentations or transactions showing on the 4th. 

 I managed to fix it by going to Billing  Billing Settings, and clicking 
 the Edit next to the Primary (and only form of payment), then clicking OK, 
 and then clicking Activate this … (or whatever it actually said.)  In 
 5-10 minutes, the Billing Settings and Billing Status pages looked correct, 
 and I was able to make a manual payment (for 0.03) which showed on Billing 
 Transactions. 

 So I got over it.  But this is NOT that way an organization which claims 
 to be world-class should treat it's customers. 

 I can't prove it, but I believe that my setup for running our GAE app 
 off a custom domain was broken by this.  But I'll post that separately. 

 --Ken



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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-20 Thread Brandon Thomson
Anyone know if there's a way to check in the control panel if we're now in 
the clear billing-wise?

Under Usage History I have a Charge Failed followed by Billing Setup 
Successful a couple days later (I'm assuming that was somebody at Google, 
since it wasn't me).

Basically I want to make sure our service isn't going to get shut off in 30 
days.

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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-20 Thread Rae Wang
I confirmed with our billing engineers, new payments should go through 
successfully now. Some older failures are still trickling back in from the 
system - resulting in the emails. They will retry the failures in the next 
couple of days to clear the failure status. Your service won't be shut off 
in 30 days. If you continue to receive failure messages after the next 
couple of days, please file a support ticket 
(https://support.google.com/code/bin/request.py?contact_type=cloud_platform_billing).
 


On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:45:11 PM UTC-7, Brandon Thomson wrote:

 Anyone know if there's a way to check in the control panel if we're now in 
 the clear billing-wise?

 Under Usage History I have a Charge Failed followed by Billing Setup 
 Successful a couple days later (I'm assuming that was somebody at Google, 
 since it wasn't me).

 Basically I want to make sure our service isn't going to get shut off in 
 30 days.


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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-20 Thread Damith C Rajapakse
Good to hear that. Hope it gets sorted out soon.
I received 'payment declined' notice 3 times in the last 3 weeks (the 
latest was yesterday). Re-enabled the card each time.

On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:08:43 AM UTC+8, Rae Wang wrote:

 I confirmed with our billing engineers, new payments should go through 
 successfully now. Some older failures are still trickling back in from the 
 system - resulting in the emails. They will retry the failures in the next 
 couple of days to clear the failure status. Your service won't be shut off 
 in 30 days. If you continue to receive failure messages after the next 
 couple of days, please file a support ticket (
 https://support.google.com/code/bin/request.py?contact_type=cloud_platform_billing
 ). 


 On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 7:45:11 PM UTC-7, Brandon Thomson wrote:

 Anyone know if there's a way to check in the control panel if we're now 
 in the clear billing-wise?

 Under Usage History I have a Charge Failed followed by Billing Setup 
 Successful a couple days later (I'm assuming that was somebody at Google, 
 since it wasn't me).

 Basically I want to make sure our service isn't going to get shut off in 
 30 days.



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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-20 Thread Theodore Book
I'm experiencing the same thing.  Just submitted the form.  We'll see what 
happens.

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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-19 Thread Rae Wang
Update: Our billing team has found the issue and fixed it. New charges 
should succeed now. Our engineers are looking into retrying/recovering the 
failed ones. As usual, your feedback on the forum is helping us to improve 
our system. We really appreciate it. Thank you.

On Friday, August 16, 2013 11:53:31 PM UTC-7, Rae Wang wrote:

 Thank you for bringing these issues to our attention. We are seeing a 
 number of payment failures on GAE accounts recently and are actively 
 investigating issues on our side. Sorry about the inconvenience it has 
 caused you. We are working on resolving the issues. 


 On Friday, August 16, 2013 12:55:57 PM UTC-7, Ken Bowen wrote:

 I also got 
 couldn't process a payment with your Visa…...for $0.02 on Aug 4, 
 2013.   

 It's a Citicard that has been on the GAE account for many months (and the 
 card has be in continual use for over 10 years).  I only got the email 
 yesterday (8/15).  I called Citibank.  They checked and stated that the 
 charge was presented on Aug 3, and that it was approved, and there were no 
 presentations or transactions showing on the 4th. 

 I managed to fix it by going to Billing  Billing Settings, and clicking 
 the Edit next to the Primary (and only form of payment), then clicking OK, 
 and then clicking Activate this … (or whatever it actually said.)  In 
 5-10 minutes, the Billing Settings and Billing Status pages looked correct, 
 and I was able to make a manual payment (for 0.03) which showed on Billing 
 Transactions. 

 So I got over it.  But this is NOT that way an organization which claims 
 to be world-class should treat it's customers. 

 I can't prove it, but I believe that my setup for running our GAE app off 
 a custom domain was broken by this.  But I'll post that separately. 

 --Ken



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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-17 Thread Rae Wang
Thank you for bringing these issues to our attention. We are seeing a 
number of payment failures on GAE accounts recently and are actively 
investigating issues on our side. Sorry about the inconvenience it has 
caused you. We are working on resolving the issues. 


On Friday, August 16, 2013 12:55:57 PM UTC-7, Ken Bowen wrote:

 I also got 
 couldn't process a payment with your Visa…...for $0.02 on Aug 4, 
 2013.   

 It's a Citicard that has been on the GAE account for many months (and the 
 card has be in continual use for over 10 years).  I only got the email 
 yesterday (8/15).  I called Citibank.  They checked and stated that the 
 charge was presented on Aug 3, and that it was approved, and there were no 
 presentations or transactions showing on the 4th. 

 I managed to fix it by going to Billing  Billing Settings, and clicking 
 the Edit next to the Primary (and only form of payment), then clicking OK, 
 and then clicking Activate this … (or whatever it actually said.)  In 
 5-10 minutes, the Billing Settings and Billing Status pages looked correct, 
 and I was able to make a manual payment (for 0.03) which showed on Billing 
 Transactions. 

 So I got over it.  But this is NOT that way an organization which claims 
 to be world-class should treat it's customers. 

 I can't prove it, but I believe that my setup for running our GAE app off 
 a custom domain was broken by this.  But I'll post that separately. 

 --Ken

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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-16 Thread Brian Retford
Hey James,

Apologies you're having so much difficulty with the payment systems. We're 
hard at work on multiple fronts to improve the user experience in that area.

I took a quick look at your account and most of your forms of payment seem 
correctly setup, though one bank account appears to be declining our 
attempts to send test deposits. Hopefully our support people have been in 
contact to explain that (does the UI make it reasonably clear that this is 
what's going on?). It appears that we're actually getting rejections from 
the bank when attempting to do test deposits (and that we're actually 
communicating with the bank's gateway). I'll also point out, in what's 
hopefully reassurring, that GAE now shares the same billing backend as 
adwords, and that, in general, we haven't ran into very many system caused 
FoP decline issues.

I'd also like to point out that the system will automatically attempt to 
charge your fallback options - you don't need to make manual payments.



On Thursday, August 15, 2013 6:36:04 AM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 The saga of a broken billing system continues ...

 A few days ago, I setup another checking account GAE billing; an account 
 with Chase Bank (largest US bank I believe); the account has existed for 10 
 years and used every day.  I received a GAE BILLING decline this morning ...

 We were unable to place a small test deposit in your bank account. This 
 may have happened for several reasons: 

1. Your bank account information was entered incorrectly.
2. Your bank account no longer exists.
3. Your bank account has a restriction against direct debiting.

 None of this is true.

 I suggest a fourth possibility ...

 4. The GAE BILLING system is seriously broken and this failure is a GAE 
 BILLING problem.  Try and let somebody know but you will notice there is no 
 hint in this email has to go about doing that.  Perhaps, you could post 
 something on a public forum to get your private billing issue resolve.  Or, 
 maybe, just wait until GAE disables your account because you are unable to 
 make a regular payment with the payment system.  At that point, you will 
 have little choice except to sue somebody.


 I made a couple more one time payments using different methods of payment.

 On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and 
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them -- 
 probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking account, 
 four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they 
 disappear.  The bank said Google billing is not completing the transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-...@google.com javascript: -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?




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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-16 Thread Jim Gilliam
Brian,

The UI is good.  The problem is that transactions are not completing.

When the first ACH debit to my checking account was declined on August 8th,
after working for months, I called the bank.  They told me that no such ACH
debit was presented to them and they declined nothing.  The message from
GOOGLE said that no reason was given by the bank.  The bank said they
always give a reason for any decline.  And since GOOGLE did not have a
reason for the decline, I believe this means that GOOGLE has a serious
glitch in their system.

After this, I then initiated manual payments using a DEBIT card; in fact,
several different DEBIT and CREDIT cards.  I quickly discovered these
transactions would stay pending for a few days and then disappear.  The
bank indicated that GOOGLE initiated the transaction, putting the money on
hold and the transaction in PENDING state; however, the bank said, GOOGLE
never sent the finalized transaction so the pending disappeared and the
money was released back into the account.

Right now, I am desperately trying to get a transaction to complete so that
my GAE account has a credit.  I believe eventually the GOOGLE system will
figure out that these transaction did not complete properly and disable my
GAE account.  That would be a very serious issue for me and my clients.

Thanks




On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Brian Retford bretf...@google.com wrote:

 Hey James,

 Apologies you're having so much difficulty with the payment systems. We're
 hard at work on multiple fronts to improve the user experience in that area.

 I took a quick look at your account and most of your forms of payment seem
 correctly setup, though one bank account appears to be declining our
 attempts to send test deposits. Hopefully our support people have been in
 contact to explain that (does the UI make it reasonably clear that this is
 what's going on?). It appears that we're actually getting rejections from
 the bank when attempting to do test deposits (and that we're actually
 communicating with the bank's gateway). I'll also point out, in what's
 hopefully reassurring, that GAE now shares the same billing backend as
 adwords, and that, in general, we haven't ran into very many system caused
 FoP decline issues.

 I'd also like to point out that the system will automatically attempt to
 charge your fallback options - you don't need to make manual payments.



 On Thursday, August 15, 2013 6:36:04 AM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 The saga of a broken billing system continues ...

 A few days ago, I setup another checking account GAE billing; an account
 with Chase Bank (largest US bank I believe); the account has existed for 10
 years and used every day.  I received a GAE BILLING decline this morning ...

 We were unable to place a small test deposit in your bank account. This
 may have happened for several reasons:

1. Your bank account information was entered incorrectly.
2. Your bank account no longer exists.
3. Your bank account has a restriction against direct debiting.

 None of this is true.

 I suggest a fourth possibility ...

 4. The GAE BILLING system is seriously broken and this failure is a GAE
 BILLING problem.  Try and let somebody know but you will notice there is no
 hint in this email has to go about doing that.  Perhaps, you could post
 something on a public forum to get your private billing issue resolve.  Or,
 maybe, just wait until GAE disables your account because you are unable to
 make a regular payment with the payment system.  At that point, you will
 have little choice except to sue somebody.


 I made a couple more one time payments using different methods of payment.

 On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them --
 probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking
 account, four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they
 disappear.  The bank said Google billing is not completing the transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-...@google.com -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?


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Re: [google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-16 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
FWIW, we just got the your credit card was declined message from GAE even
though there is nothing wrong with our card.

Submitted a complaint to the billing form.

Something is broken.

Jeff


On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Jim Gilliam jimgill...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brian,

 The UI is good.  The problem is that transactions are not completing.

 When the first ACH debit to my checking account was declined on August
 8th, after working for months, I called the bank.  They told me that no
 such ACH debit was presented to them and they declined nothing.  The
 message from GOOGLE said that no reason was given by the bank.  The bank
 said they always give a reason for any decline.  And since GOOGLE did not
 have a reason for the decline, I believe this means that GOOGLE has a
 serious glitch in their system.

 After this, I then initiated manual payments using a DEBIT card; in fact,
 several different DEBIT and CREDIT cards.  I quickly discovered these
 transactions would stay pending for a few days and then disappear.  The
 bank indicated that GOOGLE initiated the transaction, putting the money on
 hold and the transaction in PENDING state; however, the bank said, GOOGLE
 never sent the finalized transaction so the pending disappeared and the
 money was released back into the account.

 Right now, I am desperately trying to get a transaction to complete so
 that my GAE account has a credit.  I believe eventually the GOOGLE system
 will figure out that these transaction did not complete properly and
 disable my GAE account.  That would be a very serious issue for me and my
 clients.

 Thanks




 On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Brian Retford bretf...@google.comwrote:

 Hey James,

 Apologies you're having so much difficulty with the payment systems.
 We're hard at work on multiple fronts to improve the user experience in
 that area.

 I took a quick look at your account and most of your forms of payment
 seem correctly setup, though one bank account appears to be declining our
 attempts to send test deposits. Hopefully our support people have been in
 contact to explain that (does the UI make it reasonably clear that this is
 what's going on?). It appears that we're actually getting rejections from
 the bank when attempting to do test deposits (and that we're actually
 communicating with the bank's gateway). I'll also point out, in what's
 hopefully reassurring, that GAE now shares the same billing backend as
 adwords, and that, in general, we haven't ran into very many system caused
 FoP decline issues.

 I'd also like to point out that the system will automatically attempt to
 charge your fallback options - you don't need to make manual payments.



 On Thursday, August 15, 2013 6:36:04 AM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 The saga of a broken billing system continues ...

 A few days ago, I setup another checking account GAE billing; an account
 with Chase Bank (largest US bank I believe); the account has existed for 10
 years and used every day.  I received a GAE BILLING decline this morning ...

 We were unable to place a small test deposit in your bank account. This
 may have happened for several reasons:

1. Your bank account information was entered incorrectly.
2. Your bank account no longer exists.
3. Your bank account has a restriction against direct debiting.

 None of this is true.

 I suggest a fourth possibility ...

 4. The GAE BILLING system is seriously broken and this failure is a GAE
 BILLING problem.  Try and let somebody know but you will notice there is no
 hint in this email has to go about doing that.  Perhaps, you could post
 something on a public forum to get your private billing issue resolve.  Or,
 maybe, just wait until GAE disables your account because you are unable to
 make a regular payment with the payment system.  At that point, you will
 have little choice except to sue somebody.


 I made a couple more one time payments using different methods of
 payment.

 On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them
 -- probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking
 account, four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they
 disappear.  The bank said Google billing is not completing the 
 transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-...@google.com -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?


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[google-appengine] RE: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-16 Thread Ken Bowen
I also got 
couldn't process a payment with your Visa…...for $0.02 on Aug 4, 
2013.  

It's a Citicard that has been on the GAE account for many months (and the card 
has be in continual use for over 10 years).  I only got the email yesterday 
(8/15).  I called Citibank.  They checked and stated that the charge was 
presented on Aug 3, and that it was approved, and there were no presentations 
or transactions showing on the 4th.

I managed to fix it by going to Billing  Billing Settings, and clicking the 
Edit next to the Primary (and only form of payment), then clicking OK, and then 
clicking Activate this … (or whatever it actually said.)  In 5-10 minutes, 
the Billing Settings and Billing Status pages looked correct, and I was able to 
make a manual payment (for 0.03) which showed on Billing Transactions.

So I got over it.  But this is NOT that way an organization which claims to be 
world-class should treat it's customers.

I can't prove it, but I believe that my setup for running our GAE app off a 
custom domain was broken by this.  But I'll post that separately.

--Ken

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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-15 Thread James Gilliam
The saga of a broken billing system continues ...

A few days ago, I setup another checking account GAE billing; an account 
with Chase Bank (largest US bank I believe); the account has existed for 10 
years and used every day.  I received a GAE BILLING decline this morning ...

We were unable to place a small test deposit in your bank account. This may 
have happened for several reasons: 

   1. Your bank account information was entered incorrectly.
   2. Your bank account no longer exists.
   3. Your bank account has a restriction against direct debiting.

None of this is true.

I suggest a fourth possibility ...

4. The GAE BILLING system is seriously broken and this failure is a GAE 
BILLING problem.  Try and let somebody know but you will notice there is no 
hint in this email has to go about doing that.  Perhaps, you could post 
something on a public forum to get your private billing issue resolve.  Or, 
maybe, just wait until GAE disables your account because you are unable to 
make a regular payment with the payment system.  At that point, you will 
have little choice except to sue somebody.


I made a couple more one time payments using different methods of payment.

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and 
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them -- 
 probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking account, 
 four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they disappear. 
  The bank said Google billing is not completing the transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-bill...@google.com -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?




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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-13 Thread James Gilliam
Was told to go to the following link to report billing errors ---

https://support.google.com/code/bin/request.py?contact_type=cloud_platform_billing

It wants to know the ORDER ID ...

There is no ORDER ID on the GAE DASHBOARD anywhere I can find.

Exactly how am I to fill out a form that wants an ORDER ID and there is no 
ORDER ID?

GAE -- nobody to call or to contact even when there is a serious problem.

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and 
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them -- 
 probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking account, 
 four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they disappear. 
  The bank said Google billing is not completing the transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-bill...@google.com -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?




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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-13 Thread Rae Wang
James, the order ID is not a required field. Can you leave it empty and 
submit the support request? 


On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:36:07 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 Was told to go to the following link to report billing errors ---


 https://support.google.com/code/bin/request.py?contact_type=cloud_platform_billing

 It wants to know the ORDER ID ...

 There is no ORDER ID on the GAE DASHBOARD anywhere I can find.

 Exactly how am I to fill out a form that wants an ORDER ID and there is no 
 ORDER ID?

 GAE -- nobody to call or to contact even when there is a serious problem.

 On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and 
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them -- 
 probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking account, 
 four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they 
 disappear.  The bank said Google billing is not completing the transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-...@google.com javascript: -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?




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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-13 Thread Joakim
The ORDER ID field is not marked as mandatory. Even if it was, you could 
just enter N/A.

The only time I've had reason to use that form, my issue was responded to 
within 2 days, and from that point they were very quick to reply to the 
following emails. I was not disappointed.

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 11:36:07 PM UTC+2, James Gilliam wrote:

 Was told to go to the following link to report billing errors ---


 https://support.google.com/code/bin/request.py?contact_type=cloud_platform_billing

 It wants to know the ORDER ID ...

 There is no ORDER ID on the GAE DASHBOARD anywhere I can find.

 Exactly how am I to fill out a form that wants an ORDER ID and there is no 
 ORDER ID?

 GAE -- nobody to call or to contact even when there is a serious problem.

 On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and 
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them -- 
 probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking account, 
 four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they 
 disappear.  The bank said Google billing is not completing the transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-...@google.com javascript: -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?




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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-13 Thread James Gilliam
Thanks for pointing that out.

I didn't notice that it was not required.

I am so frustrated dealing with GAE and GOOGLE as well.

There is nobody to call even when there is a serious problem.

Instead, FAQ and FORMS and frequently ... NO RESPONSE.

I did get a response on the forum saying not to report billing issues.

Why can't we get a way on the GAE DASHBOARD to report billing issues?

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and 
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them -- 
 probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking account, 
 four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they disappear. 
  The bank said Google billing is not completing the transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-bill...@google.com -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?




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[google-appengine] Re: GAE BILLING IS SERIOUSLY MESSED UP

2013-08-13 Thread Rae Wang
I understand your frustration. We want to balance making it easy to report 
issues with protecting your information and not crowding GAE dashboard. We 
can look into if there are ways to make the support form more easily 
accessible. 
Now you have submitted the support request, our support team should be able 
to help you soon. Reply if you still don't hear back in the next few days.

On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 3:09:38 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 Thanks for pointing that out.

 I didn't notice that it was not required.

 I am so frustrated dealing with GAE and GOOGLE as well.

 There is nobody to call even when there is a serious problem.

 Instead, FAQ and FORMS and frequently ... NO RESPONSE.

 I did get a response on the forum saying not to report billing issues.

 Why can't we get a way on the GAE DASHBOARD to report billing issues?

 On Tuesday, August 13, 2013 12:21:34 PM UTC-7, James Gilliam wrote:

 My BILLING ID is 4517-8352-4265

 Gae billing sent me email saying my checking account didn't clear and 
 returned no status for the Aug 1st bill.  It has been working for months.

 Called bank, they said the latest request was never presented to them -- 
 probably the reason no status was returned, eh ?

 Over the next week, submitted one time payments for the checking account, 
 four debit and/or credit cards.

 Nothing is clearing.

 Submitted another debit card from a different bank, shows pending only.

 The debit cards show they are pending in the account, then they 
 disappear.  The bank said Google billing is not completing the transactions.

 Sent two emails to cloud-...@google.com javascript: -- no response.

 Anybody from billing out there ?




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