[google-appengine] Re: Min idle instances setting not working at all?
Hi Jon, I don't know where you got that information, the admin logs clearly reflect our actions and the feedback at the time in the Dashboard: Originally set to 5: 2011-08-31 23:15:59 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=5, min_pending_latency=0.10 Then looking at estimated new-pricing bills, I figured that's looks very expensive, let's reduce this as much as possible for now: 2011-09-01 00:08:03 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=3, min_pending_latency=0.10 2011-09-01 18:44:01 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=2, min_pending_latency=0.10 2011-09-03 12:07:44 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=1, min_pending_latency=0.10 2011-09-03 12:08:15 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=2, min_pending_latency=0.10 Then 2 days before our public launch at TechCrunch Disrupt, change of mind: now we need a minimum of 5 instances all the time, just in case: 2011-09-10 10:16:23 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=5, min_pending_latency=0.10 The next morning, I look at the graph (attached to previous post), realize it's obviously not working and decide to re-enable always-on in billing so we at least get 3. 2011-09-11 09:47:15 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=5, min_pending_latency=0.10 2011-09-11 09:47:03 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=5, min_pending_latency=0.10 And I post to the mailing list a few minutes later at 9:53AM I guarantee you min-instances was set to 5 in the dashboard for all the duration of the previously attached graph :) On Sep 12, 10:36 am, Jon McAlister jon...@google.com wrote: Nevermind, I remember, it's everpix-alpha. I see that min-idle-instances was removed on 2011/08/31-19:49:59 and then set to 3 on 2011/09/11-09:47:38. So, it wasn't on when you emailed but is on now. Your instances graph now looks correct. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Jon McAlister jon...@google.com wrote: What's the app-id? On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Pol-Online i...@pol-online.net wrote: Hi, Because we are about to launch our app very soon, I increased the number of idle instances from 1 to 5 yesterday and things looked correct in the Dashboard. Then this morning, in the Dashboard I see 2 idle instances and this: The spikes correspond to cron tasks running hourly I assume. Anyway, it looks like either the graph is wrong or the setting doesn't work, or the definition of what the setting does is wrong, because clearly it not stable at 5. I just activated Always On to work around the issue, so now it's back to 3+1. -Pol Pol-Online i...@pol-online.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. PastedGraphic-11.png 37KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Min idle instances setting not working at all?
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Min idle instances setting not working at all?
You are conflating min-idle-instances and max-idle-instances, which are different concepts. My statement was only with respect to min-idle-instances, and is still correct. min-idle-instances was removed on 2011/08/31-19:49:59 (by you disabling Always-On) and then set to 3 on 2011/09/11-09:47:38 (by you re-enabling Always-On). Your previously posted graph covered the time period before this last change, which is why it shows 0 instances at times. Your instance graph now (or otherwise after your latest change) looks correct, with the number of instances hovering between 3 and 6. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Pol i...@pol-online.net wrote: Hi Jon, I don't know where you got that information, the admin logs clearly reflect our actions and the feedback at the time in the Dashboard: Originally set to 5: 2011-08-31 23:15:59 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=5, min_pending_latency=0.10 Then looking at estimated new-pricing bills, I figured that's looks very expensive, let's reduce this as much as possible for now: 2011-09-01 00:08:03 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=3, min_pending_latency=0.10 2011-09-01 18:44:01 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=2, min_pending_latency=0.10 2011-09-03 12:07:44 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=1, min_pending_latency=0.10 2011-09-03 12:08:15 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=2, min_pending_latency=0.10 Then 2 days before our public launch at TechCrunch Disrupt, change of mind: now we need a minimum of 5 instances all the time, just in case: 2011-09-10 10:16:23 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=5, min_pending_latency=0.10 The next morning, I look at the graph (attached to previous post), realize it's obviously not working and decide to re-enable always-on in billing so we at least get 3. 2011-09-11 09:47:15 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=5, min_pending_latency=0.10 2011-09-11 09:47:03 ad...@everpix.net Changed Performance Settings max_idle_clones=5, min_pending_latency=0.10 And I post to the mailing list a few minutes later at 9:53AM I guarantee you min-instances was set to 5 in the dashboard for all the duration of the previously attached graph :) On Sep 12, 10:36 am, Jon McAlister jon...@google.com wrote: Nevermind, I remember, it's everpix-alpha. I see that min-idle-instances was removed on 2011/08/31-19:49:59 and then set to 3 on 2011/09/11-09:47:38. So, it wasn't on when you emailed but is on now. Your instances graph now looks correct. On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 10:24 AM, Jon McAlister jon...@google.com wrote: What's the app-id? On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM, Pol-Online i...@pol-online.net wrote: Hi, Because we are about to launch our app very soon, I increased the number of idle instances from 1 to 5 yesterday and things looked correct in the Dashboard. Then this morning, in the Dashboard I see 2 idle instances and this: The spikes correspond to cron tasks running hourly I assume. Anyway, it looks like either the graph is wrong or the setting doesn't work, or the definition of what the setting does is wrong, because clearly it not stable at 5. I just activated Always On to work around the issue, so now it's back to 3+1. -Pol Pol-Online i...@pol-online.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. PastedGraphic-11.png 37KViewDownload -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Min idle instances setting not working at all?
I typed too fast, I meant *max* idle instances in the Dashboard. Sorry about the confusion. That said, the description of the slider is not very clear: it's called max which is correct from a billing perspective, but from a functionality perspective, it really looks like you're setting the default almost min number of idle instances, especially considering that Always On disappears in the new system, right? On Sep 13, 12:48 am, Daniel Florey daniel.flo...@gmail.com wrote: Where did you find the min idle instances setting? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
[google-appengine] Re: Min idle instances setting not working at all?
Oops looks like the image was stripped, you can see it here: http://oi52.tinypic.com/12349hi.jpg On Sep 11, 9:53 am, Pol-Online i...@pol-online.net wrote: Hi, Because we are about to launch our app very soon, I increased the number of idle instances from 1 to 5 yesterday and things looked correct in the Dashboard. Then this morning, in the Dashboard I see 2 idle instances and this: The spikes correspond to cron tasks running hourly I assume. Anyway, it looks like either the graph is wrong or the setting doesn't work, or the definition of what the setting does is wrong, because clearly it not stable at 5. I just activated Always On to work around the issue, so now it's back to 3+1. -Pol Pol-Online i...@pol-online.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Google App Engine group. To post to this group, send email to google-appengine@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-appengine+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine?hl=en.
