[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread johntray
I can confirm that the email from the downtime-notify group was indeed
routed to my Gmail spam folder. It includes a red-overlay message:
"Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of
following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal
information". There is also a link to "Learn more"  which points to
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=8253.

Thanks for posting here, as I would have completely missed it





On Jun 30, 2:51 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods scheduled
> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
>
> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they belong
> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me know
> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>
> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
> join this group:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>
> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there are
> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>
> --
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine

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[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread Claude Vedovini
Same here!

On Jun 30, 9:19 pm, johntray  wrote:
> I can confirm that the email from the downtime-notify group was indeed
> routed to my Gmail spam folder. It includes a red-overlay message:
> "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of
> following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal
> information". There is also a link to "Learn more"  which points 
> tohttp://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=8253.
>
> Thanks for posting here, as I would have completely missed it
>
> On Jun 30, 2:51 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
>
> > Hey guys,
>
> > I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods scheduled
> > for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
>
> > Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they belong
> > in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
> > message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me know
> > in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>
> > If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
> > join this group:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>
> > We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there are
> > times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>
> > --
> > Ikai Lan
> > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine

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[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread nickmilon
Same for me ;-)


On Jun 30, 11:46 pm, Claude Vedovini  wrote:
> Same here!
>
> On Jun 30, 9:19 pm, johntray  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I can confirm that the email from the downtime-notify group was indeed
> > routed to my Gmail spam folder. It includes a red-overlay message:
> > "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of
> > following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal
> > information". There is also a link to "Learn more"  which points 
> > tohttp://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=8253.
>
> > Thanks for posting here, as I would have completely missed it
>
> > On Jun 30, 2:51 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
>
> > > Hey guys,
>
> > > I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods 
> > > scheduled
> > > for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
>
> > > Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they 
> > > belong
> > > in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
> > > message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me 
> > > know
> > > in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>
> > > If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
> > > join this group:
>
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>
> > > We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there 
> > > are
> > > times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>
> > > --
> > > Ikai Lan
> > > Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > > Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > > Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> > > Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine

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[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread Darien Caldwell
Oddly enough, yes. I got the message in my Inbox, with no issues.

On Jun 30, 12:55 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> Was this message correctly directed into anyone's inbox?
>

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[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread Luís Marques
Same here, in the spam folder marked as fishing.

Luís

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[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread Arun Shanker Prasad
Yup, the downtime notification mail was in my inbox.

On Jul 1, 12:55 am, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> Was this message correctly directed into anyone's inbox?
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Robert Kluin wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Went to my spam folder as well.
>
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM, johntray  wrote:
> > > I can confirm that the email from the downtime-notify group was indeed
> > > routed to my Gmail spam folder. It includes a red-overlay message:
> > > "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of
> > > following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal
> > > information". There is also a link to "Learn more"  which points to
> > >http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=8253.
>
> > > Thanks for posting here, as I would have completely missed it
>
> > > On Jun 30, 2:51 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> > >> Hey guys,
>
> > >> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods
> > scheduled
> > >> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>
> > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows.
> > ..
>
> > >> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they
> > belong
> > >> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
> > >> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me
> > know
> > >> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>
> > >> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
> > >> join this group:
>
> > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>
> > >> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there
> > are
> > >> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>
> > >> --
> > >> Ikai Lan
> > >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > >> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> > >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
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[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-07-01 Thread Greg
The message was in my spam box, and I moved it to my inbox yesterday.
It has now disappeared completely!

On Jul 2, 6:28 am, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback, guys. We figured out what was causing this.
> Upcoming notifications on that list will come from my email address
> temporarily until we resolve this.
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Arun Shanker Prasad <
>
>
>
> arunshankerpra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yup, the downtime notification mail was in my inbox.
>
> > On Jul 1, 12:55 am, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> > > Was this message correctly directed into anyone's inbox?
>
> > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Robert Kluin  > >wrote:
>
> > > > Went to my spam folder as well.
>
> > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM, johntray 
> > wrote:
> > > > > I can confirm that the email from the downtime-notify group was
> > indeed
> > > > > routed to my Gmail spam folder. It includes a red-overlay message:
> > > > > "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware
> > of
> > > > > following any links in it or of providing the sender with any
> > personal
> > > > > information". There is also a link to "Learn more"  which points to
>
> >http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=8253.
>
> > > > > Thanks for posting here, as I would have completely missed it
>
> > > > > On Jun 30, 2:51 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> > > > >> Hey guys,
>
> > > > >> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods
> > > > scheduled
> > > > >> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>
> >http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows.
> > > > ..
>
> > > > >> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they
> > > > belong
> > > > >> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that
> > this
> > > > >> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let
> > me
> > > > know
> > > > >> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>
> > > > >> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make
> > sure to
> > > > >> join this group:
>
> > > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>
> > > > >> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but
> > there
> > > > are
> > > > >> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Ikai Lan
> > > > >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > > > >> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > > > >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> > > > >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
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[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-07-03 Thread Jan Z
The last scheduled outages were arranged during the weekend - this
made life a great deal easier, particularly as the Capability API
wasn't working etc.

Could we please aim to keep outages to weekends until we've gone
through a couple without any hitches?

Thanks!

J

On Jul 1, 6:51 am, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods scheduled
> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
>
> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they belong
> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me know
> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>
> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
> join this group:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>
> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there are
> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>
> --
> Ikai Lan
> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine

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[google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-07-09 Thread Michael Shen
ello..

   Can somebody help me ?  I found that my app (Application ID:
dynamicpathfind) didn't work properly since the maintenance
yesterday.It still can't work properly now!!!
   I didn't change any of my code,but now,when i requset a
service, it seems to spend more time to response than before . When
the heavy load task is requested (it can work correctly before the
maintenance) , it caused "DeadlineExceededError" .
   Here are the info shown by the app engine:

   :
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/base/data/home/apps/dynamicpathfind/2.343233095557591169/
main.py", line 557, in main
run_wsgi_app(app)
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
ext/webapp/util.py", line 97, in run_wsgi_app
run_bare_wsgi_app(add_wsgi_middleware(application))
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
ext/webapp/util.py", line 115, in run_bare_wsgi_app
result = application(env, _start_response)
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
ext/webapp/__init__.py", line 513, in __call__
handler.post(*groups)
  File "/base/data/home/apps/dynamicpathfind/2.343233095557591169/
main.py", line 228, in post
self.findpath(self.withoutflow)
  File "/base/data/home/apps/dynamicpathfind/2.343233095557591169/
main.py", line 338, in findpath
nh = self.manhattan(neighbor)
  File "/base/data/home/apps/dynamicpathfind/2.343233095557591169/
main.py", line 266, in manhattan
for q in msg:
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
ext/db/__init__.py", line 1685, in __iter__
return self.run()
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
ext/db/__init__.py", line 1669, in run
iterator = raw_query.Run(rpc=rpc)
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
api/datastore.py", line 1148, in Run
return self._Run(**kwargs)
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
api/datastore.py", line 1177, in _Run
datastore_pb.QueryResult(), rpc)
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
api/datastore.py", line 192, in _MakeSyncCall
rpc.wait()
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
api/apiproxy_stub_map.py", line 460, in wait
self.__rpc.Wait()
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
api/apiproxy_rpc.py", line 112, in Wait
rpc_completed = self._WaitImpl()
  File "/base/python_runtime/python_lib/versions/1/google/appengine/
runtime/apiproxy.py", line 108, in _WaitImpl
rpc_completed =
_apphosting_runtime___python__apiproxy.Wait(self):

 Can somebody give me a help ?  Is the problem cauesd by latency ? or
there was some changes after the maintenance ?
 How can i fix it ?

 B.T.W.:my English is so poor  .sorry


On 7月6日, 下午9時55分, Viðar Svansson  wrote:
> The notification would be sent before it enters read-only state so
> there is time to save data as you assumed.
> We could write the capability state to a three layered cache (memory,
> memcache, and datastore).
>
> But like you said, there are other ways to check this during a r-o
> mode and a quick memcache put might be the best way. I haven't
> research what is the optimal approach here.
> Regardless, that does not help us if we need to perform some work
> before entering r-o mode.
>
> Let's say that the notification is sent one hour in advance. Then we
> might want to:
> * Prioritize critical background processing work so it completes
> before the deadline.
> * Disable non-essential work to minimize overall workload when the app
> enters r-o mode.
> * Notify our users that our app will soon enter a r-o state and that
> features will be disabled.
> * Notify developers that missed the email for some reason (gmail
> marked it as spam, etc).
> * If the app is a service, notify other apps that it is to go offline.
>
> Of course, it would also help if the notification included an
> estimation of the downtime.
>
> Given the frequent downtimes, it is essential that there is a way to
> handle them more gracefully than the current approach allows. At least
> if we want to build non-toy apps.
>
> - Viðar
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Barry Hunter  wrote:
> > But what would you do with the notification?
> > You can't put it in memcache (memcache is usually disabled too) and, trying
> > to put it in the datastore (provided you can do it before it actully goes
> > read-only), will probably be no more efficient than trying a real write
> > anyway.
> > But that does lead to possibly a quick way to test, try a Memcache set.
> > "will instead return False for set() calls . In addition, memcache API
> > calls will return immediately during this period, without any additional
> > latency."
>
> > 2010/7/6 Viðar Svansson 
>
> >> Hi
>
> >> It wou

Re: [google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread Robert Kluin
Went to my spam folder as well.



On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM, johntray  wrote:
> I can confirm that the email from the downtime-notify group was indeed
> routed to my Gmail spam folder. It includes a red-overlay message:
> "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of
> following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal
> information". There is also a link to "Learn more"  which points to
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=8253.
>
> Thanks for posting here, as I would have completely missed it
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 30, 2:51 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods scheduled
>> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
>>
>> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they belong
>> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
>> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me know
>> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>>
>> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
>> join this group:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>>
>> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there are
>> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>>
>> --
>> Ikai Lan
>> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
>> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
>> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
>
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread Ikai L (Google)
Was this message correctly directed into anyone's inbox?

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Robert Kluin wrote:

> Went to my spam folder as well.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM, johntray  wrote:
> > I can confirm that the email from the downtime-notify group was indeed
> > routed to my Gmail spam folder. It includes a red-overlay message:
> > "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware of
> > following any links in it or of providing the sender with any personal
> > information". There is also a link to "Learn more"  which points to
> > http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=8253.
> >
> > Thanks for posting here, as I would have completely missed it
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 30, 2:51 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods
> scheduled
> >> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows.
> ..
> >>
> >> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they
> belong
> >> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
> >> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me
> know
> >> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
> >>
> >> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
> >> join this group:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
> >>
> >> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there
> are
> >> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ikai Lan
> >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-06-30 Thread Takashi MATSUO
Unfortunately same here. The message went to the spam folder with the
message "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be.
Beware of following any links in it or of providing the sender with
any personal information. ".

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2010/7/1 Luís Marques :
> Same here, in the spam folder marked as fishing.
>
> Luís
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-07-01 Thread Ikai L (Google)
Thanks for the feedback, guys. We figured out what was causing this.
Upcoming notifications on that list will come from my email address
temporarily until we resolve this.

On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:34 PM, Arun Shanker Prasad <
arunshankerpra...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yup, the downtime notification mail was in my inbox.
>
> On Jul 1, 12:55 am, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> > Was this message correctly directed into anyone's inbox?
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Robert Kluin  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Went to my spam folder as well.
> >
> > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 2:19 PM, johntray 
> wrote:
> > > > I can confirm that the email from the downtime-notify group was
> indeed
> > > > routed to my Gmail spam folder. It includes a red-overlay message:
> > > > "Warning: This message may not be from whom it claims to be. Beware
> of
> > > > following any links in it or of providing the sender with any
> personal
> > > > information". There is also a link to "Learn more"  which points to
> > > >
> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=8253.
> >
> > > > Thanks for posting here, as I would have completely missed it
> >
> > > > On Jun 30, 2:51 pm, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> > > >> Hey guys,
> >
> > > >> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods
> > > scheduled
> > > >> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
> >
> > > >>
> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows.
> > > ..
> >
> > > >> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they
> > > belong
> > > >> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that
> this
> > > >> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let
> me
> > > know
> > > >> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
> >
> > > >> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make
> sure to
> > > >> join this group:
> >
> > > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
> >
> > > >> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but
> there
> > > are
> > > >> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
> >
> > > >> --
> > > >> Ikai Lan
> > > >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> > > >> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> > > >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> > > >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-07-06 Thread Viðar Svansson
Hi

It would be nice if AppEngine would post a message to our apps before
it enters maintenance mode and again when it resumes to normal
operation mode. This would allow us to disable features that require
writing to the datastore. I realize we can catch the capability
exceptions but that means we need to try to write first, which is not
good enough IMO.

Regards,
Viðar

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Jan Z  wrote:
> The last scheduled outages were arranged during the weekend - this
> made life a great deal easier, particularly as the Capability API
> wasn't working etc.
>
> Could we please aim to keep outages to weekends until we've gone
> through a couple without any hitches?
>
> Thanks!
>
> J
>
> On Jul 1, 6:51 am, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>>
>> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods scheduled
>> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
>>
>> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they belong
>> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
>> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me know
>> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>>
>> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
>> join this group:
>>
>> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>>
>> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there are
>> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>>
>> --
>> Ikai Lan
>> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
>> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
>> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-07-06 Thread Barry Hunter
But what would you do with the notification?

You can't put it in memcache (memcache is usually disabled too) and, trying
to put it in the datastore (provided you can do it before it actully goes
read-only), will probably be no more efficient than trying a real write
anyway.

But that does lead to possibly a quick way to test, try a Memcache set.

*"**will instead return False for set() calls . In addition, memcache
API calls will return immediately during this period, without any additional
latency."*


2010/7/6 Viðar Svansson 

> Hi
>
> It would be nice if AppEngine would post a message to our apps before
> it enters maintenance mode and again when it resumes to normal
> operation mode. This would allow us to disable features that require
> writing to the datastore. I realize we can catch the capability
> exceptions but that means we need to try to write first, which is not
> good enough IMO.
>
> Regards,
> Viðar
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Jan Z  wrote:
> > The last scheduled outages were arranged during the weekend - this
> > made life a great deal easier, particularly as the Capability API
> > wasn't working etc.
> >
> > Could we please aim to keep outages to weekends until we've gone
> > through a couple without any hitches?
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > J
> >
> > On Jul 1, 6:51 am, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
> >> Hey guys,
> >>
> >> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods
> scheduled
> >> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows.
> ..
> >>
> >> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they
> belong
> >> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
> >> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me
> know
> >> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
> >>
> >> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure to
> >> join this group:
> >>
> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
> >>
> >> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there
> are
> >> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ikai Lan
> >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
> >> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
> >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
> >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
> >
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Re: [google-appengine] Re: Upcoming maintenance notification

2010-07-06 Thread Viðar Svansson
The notification would be sent before it enters read-only state so
there is time to save data as you assumed.
We could write the capability state to a three layered cache (memory,
memcache, and datastore).

But like you said, there are other ways to check this during a r-o
mode and a quick memcache put might be the best way. I haven't
research what is the optimal approach here.
Regardless, that does not help us if we need to perform some work
before entering r-o mode.

Let's say that the notification is sent one hour in advance. Then we
might want to:
* Prioritize critical background processing work so it completes
before the deadline.
* Disable non-essential work to minimize overall workload when the app
enters r-o mode.
* Notify our users that our app will soon enter a r-o state and that
features will be disabled.
* Notify developers that missed the email for some reason (gmail
marked it as spam, etc).
* If the app is a service, notify other apps that it is to go offline.

Of course, it would also help if the notification included an
estimation of the downtime.

Given the frequent downtimes, it is essential that there is a way to
handle them more gracefully than the current approach allows. At least
if we want to build non-toy apps.

- Viðar

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Barry Hunter  wrote:
> But what would you do with the notification?
> You can't put it in memcache (memcache is usually disabled too) and, trying
> to put it in the datastore (provided you can do it before it actully goes
> read-only), will probably be no more efficient than trying a real write
> anyway.
> But that does lead to possibly a quick way to test, try a Memcache set.
> "will instead return False for set() calls . In addition, memcache API
> calls will return immediately during this period, without any additional
> latency."
>
> 2010/7/6 Viðar Svansson 
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> It would be nice if AppEngine would post a message to our apps before
>> it enters maintenance mode and again when it resumes to normal
>> operation mode. This would allow us to disable features that require
>> writing to the datastore. I realize we can catch the capability
>> exceptions but that means we need to try to write first, which is not
>> good enough IMO.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Viðar
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Jan Z  wrote:
>> > The last scheduled outages were arranged during the weekend - this
>> > made life a great deal easier, particularly as the Capability API
>> > wasn't working etc.
>> >
>> > Could we please aim to keep outages to weekends until we've gone
>> > through a couple without any hitches?
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > J
>> >
>> > On Jul 1, 6:51 am, "Ikai L (Google)"  wrote:
>> >> Hey guys,
>> >>
>> >> I just wanted to point out there are upcoming maintenance periods
>> >> scheduled
>> >> for July 7th and July 14th at 5pm Pacific. More details here:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify/brows...
>> >>
>> >> Normally, I wouldn't post these notifications to this group, as they
>> >> belong
>> >> in the "downtime notify" group, however, users are reporting that this
>> >> message went into their spam folder. Can anyone verify this, or let me
>> >> know
>> >> in this thread if this message was correctly delivered?
>> >>
>> >> If you want to be notified of upcoming maintenance periods, make sure
>> >> to
>> >> join this group:
>> >>
>> >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-appengine-downtime-notify
>> >>
>> >> We're doing our best to minimize these periods in the future, but there
>> >> are
>> >> times when these periods will be absolutely necessary.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Ikai Lan
>> >> Developer Programs Engineer, Google App Engine
>> >> Blog:http://googleappengine.blogspot.com
>> >> Twitter:http://twitter.com/app_engine
>> >> Reddit:http://www.reddit.com/r/appengine
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