[google-appengine] rights of end-users data when storing it in GAEs datastore

2010-10-31 Thread DIEGO -
Hello. I am planning to develop some end-user services taking advantage
of GAE's service.
I have red GAEs terms very carefully and i am a little bit confused. I
need you to clarity.
Could you ?


http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/terms.html (sunday oct/31/2010)


section 8


[...] By submitting, posting or displaying the Content on or through
the Service you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and
non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such Content [...]
Furthermore, by creating an Application through use of the Service, you
give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to
reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform,
publicly display and distribute such Application [...]


My questions are:


1) if i store any kind of end-user's info into GAE's datastore: os
Google free to publish it ? what about if it is private info ? how can
i warrant my end-users that their info is not going to be publicy
published ? I mean, it is understandable that Google automatically
access to that info to obtain some kind of benefit by providing the
platform, but reserving the rights of publicy publishing end-users info
disallow us (ISVs) to protect them...


2) What does Google mean by reproducing and adapting such
Application ?


3) If Google reserves the right of translating apps, how will Google do
it if my app is developed in java ? is Google going to reverse-ing it ?


4) what is the difference between publishing and distributing an
app ?
if some Google's guy out-there, can you provide me some examples of
such cases please ?


thanks in advance,
D./

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Re: [google-appengine] rights of end-users data when storing it in GAEs datastore

2010-10-31 Thread Stephen Johnson
Oops! I meant from below highlighted in bold.

On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Stephen Johnson onepagewo...@gmail.comwrote:

 Redacted areas from believe highlighted in bold. Personally I think that
 explains a lot but I'm no lawyer.

 8.1. *Google claims no ownership or control over any Content or
 Application. You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
 the Content and/or Application, and you are responsible for protecting those
 rights, as appropriate. * By submitting, posting or displaying the Content
 on or through the Service you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and
 non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
 publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such Content *for the
 sole purpose of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in
 accordance with its privacy policy. *Furthermore, by creating an
 Application through use of the Service, you give Google a worldwide,
 royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify,
 translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such
 Application* for the sole purpose of enabling Google to provide you with
 the Service in accordance with its privacy policy.*


 On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, DIEGO - diegoredbai...@gmail.comwrote:

  Hello. I am planning to develop some end-user services taking advantage
 of GAE's service.
 I have red GAEs terms very carefully and i am a little bit confused. I
 need you to clarity.
 Could you ?

 http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/terms.html (sunday oct/31/2010)

 section 8

 [...] By submitting, posting or displaying the Content on or through the
 Service you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license
 to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly
 display and distribute such Content [...] Furthermore, by creating an
 Application through use of the Service, you give Google a worldwide,
 royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify,
 translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such
 Application [...]

 My questions are:

 1) if i store any kind of end-user's info into GAE's datastore: os Google
 free to *publish* it ? what about if it is private info ? how can i
 warrant my end-users that their info is not going to be publicy published ?
 I mean, it is understandable that Google automatically access to that info
 to obtain some kind of benefit by providing the platform, but reserving the
 rights of publicy publishing end-users info disallow us (ISVs) to protect
 them...

 2) What does Google mean by reproducing and adapting such Application
 ?

 3) If Google reserves the right of translating apps, how will Google do it
 if my app is developed in java ? is Google going to reverse-ing it ?

 4) what is the difference between publishing and distributing an app ?
 if some Google's guy out-there, can you provide me some examples of such
 cases please ?

 thanks in advance,
 D./


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Re: [google-appengine] rights of end-users data when storing it in GAEs datastore

2010-10-31 Thread Stephen Johnson
Redacted areas from believe highlighted in bold. Personally I think that
explains a lot but I'm no lawyer.

8.1. *Google claims no ownership or control over any Content or Application.
You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in the Content
and/or Application, and you are responsible for protecting those rights, as
appropriate. * By submitting, posting or displaying the Content on or
through the Service you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and
non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such Content *for the sole
purpose of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in accordance
with its privacy policy. *Furthermore, by creating an Application through
use of the Service, you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and
non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such Application* for the
sole purpose of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in
accordance with its privacy policy.*


On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 11:07 PM, DIEGO - diegoredbai...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hello. I am planning to develop some end-user services taking advantage
 of GAE's service.
 I have red GAEs terms very carefully and i am a little bit confused. I need
 you to clarity.
 Could you ?

 http://code.google.com/intl/en/appengine/terms.html (sunday oct/31/2010)

 section 8

 [...] By submitting, posting or displaying the Content on or through the
 Service you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license
 to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly
 display and distribute such Content [...] Furthermore, by creating an
 Application through use of the Service, you give Google a worldwide,
 royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify,
 translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such
 Application [...]

 My questions are:

 1) if i store any kind of end-user's info into GAE's datastore: os Google
 free to *publish* it ? what about if it is private info ? how can i
 warrant my end-users that their info is not going to be publicy published ?
 I mean, it is understandable that Google automatically access to that info
 to obtain some kind of benefit by providing the platform, but reserving the
 rights of publicy publishing end-users info disallow us (ISVs) to protect
 them...

 2) What does Google mean by reproducing and adapting such Application ?

 3) If Google reserves the right of translating apps, how will Google do it
 if my app is developed in java ? is Google going to reverse-ing it ?

 4) what is the difference between publishing and distributing an app ?
 if some Google's guy out-there, can you provide me some examples of such
 cases please ?

 thanks in advance,
 D./


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