RE: [appengine-java] Billed CPU time by far too high

2010-05-12 Thread Henning Dierolf

Hi Ikai,

 it's also possible that you were being *underbilled* previously and that
 we've corrected billing information.

that is quite interesting. Google just can decide that someone is underbilled 
so he/she has to pay an extra 700% on CPU time. So not everyone has to pay the 
same for the same good. I think that this is quite ridiculous. Probably it does 
not make sense to invest in this platform anymore but better develop my 
software on another cloud service like Amazon.

Henning

Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 08:40:22 +0200
Subject: Re: [appengine-java] Billed CPU time by far too high
From: ika...@google.com
To: google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com

If you are actually being billed, you'd fill out this form right here:
http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/billing.html

1.3 CPU hours is still significantly under the free quota, so this probably 
wouldn't be an option for you. I'd advise running AppStats to profile where all 
the additional CPU usage is coming from. This information would be extremely 
helpful both to you as well as to other developers who may experience the same 
issues. Without knowing additional information, it's also possible that you 
were being *underbilled* previously and that we've corrected billing 
information.


On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Henning henning2...@hotmail.de wrote:

Hello,



I posted about this topic already 2 weeks ago. The days after that my

website got back to its normal levels of CPU time. But then things got

even worse. What can I do now? How can I let the responsible

developers at Google let know to fix it.



The situation is as follows:



I have a cron job that is triggered every minute. It has an average

CPU usage of 56(17) according to the dash board.

On the black list I cannot see any requests other than my cron job. It

is nearly the only thing that needs CPU time.



Normally what I got billed everyday was about 0.2 CPU hrs a day. In

the meantime it is about 1.3 CPU hrs a day! That is more than 1/5 of

the free quota just for this lightweight cron job!



Henning



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Re: [appengine-java] Billed CPU time by far too high

2010-05-12 Thread Jeff Schnitzer
Are you really getting upset over some arbitrary numbers on a service
you aren't even paying for?

Jeff

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Henning Dierolf henning2...@hotmail.de wrote:
 Hi Ikai,

 it's also possible that you were being *underbilled* previously and that
 we've corrected billing information.

 that is quite interesting. Google just can decide that someone is
 underbilled so he/she has to pay an extra 700% on CPU time. So not
 everyone has to pay the same for the same good. I think that this is quite
 ridiculous. Probably it does not make sense to invest in this platform
 anymore but better develop my software on another cloud service like Amazon.

 Henning

 
 Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 08:40:22 +0200
 Subject: Re: [appengine-java] Billed CPU time by far too high
 From: ika...@google.com
 To: google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com

 If you are actually being billed, you'd fill out this form right here:
 http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/billing.html
 1.3 CPU hours is still significantly under the free quota, so this probably
 wouldn't be an option for you. I'd advise running AppStats to profile where
 all the additional CPU usage is coming from. This information would be
 extremely helpful both to you as well as to other developers who may
 experience the same issues. Without knowing additional information, it's
 also possible that you were being *underbilled* previously and that we've
 corrected billing information.

 On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Henning henning2...@hotmail.de wrote:

 Hello,

 I posted about this topic already 2 weeks ago. The days after that my
 website got back to its normal levels of CPU time. But then things got
 even worse. What can I do now? How can I let the responsible
 developers at Google let know to fix it.

 The situation is as follows:

 I have a cron job that is triggered every minute. It has an average
 CPU usage of 56(17) according to the dash board.
 On the black list I cannot see any requests other than my cron job. It
 is nearly the only thing that needs CPU time.

 Normally what I got billed everyday was about 0.2 CPU hrs a day. In
 the meantime it is about 1.3 CPU hrs a day! That is more than 1/5 of
 the free quota just for this lightweight cron job!

 Henning

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Re: [appengine-java] Billed CPU time by far too high

2010-05-12 Thread Paul Hammant
Many of us sit in limbo Jeff.  We're waiting for cold-start, start-up, and
billing and general 'cloud' concerns to be assuaged before we push clients
towards this stack.

Thus something that is free now, is useful experience when considering the
huge deployments to GAE/J.

- Paul

On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Jeff Schnitzer j...@infohazard.org wrote:

 Are you really getting upset over some arbitrary numbers on a service
 you aren't even paying for?

 Jeff

 On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:58 AM, Henning Dierolf henning2...@hotmail.de
 wrote:
  Hi Ikai,
 
  it's also possible that you were being *underbilled* previously and
 that
  we've corrected billing information.
 
  that is quite interesting. Google just can decide that someone is
  underbilled so he/she has to pay an extra 700% on CPU time. So not
  everyone has to pay the same for the same good. I think that this is
 quite
  ridiculous. Probably it does not make sense to invest in this platform
  anymore but better develop my software on another cloud service like
 Amazon.
 
  Henning
 
  
  Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 08:40:22 +0200
  Subject: Re: [appengine-java] Billed CPU time by far too high
  From: ika...@google.com
  To: google-appengine-java@googlegroups.com
 
  If you are actually being billed, you'd fill out this form right here:
  http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/billing.html
  1.3 CPU hours is still significantly under the free quota, so this
 probably
  wouldn't be an option for you. I'd advise running AppStats to profile
 where
  all the additional CPU usage is coming from. This information would be
  extremely helpful both to you as well as to other developers who may
  experience the same issues. Without knowing additional information, it's
  also possible that you were being *underbilled* previously and that we've
  corrected billing information.
 
  On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Henning henning2...@hotmail.de wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I posted about this topic already 2 weeks ago. The days after that my
  website got back to its normal levels of CPU time. But then things got
  even worse. What can I do now? How can I let the responsible
  developers at Google let know to fix it.
 
  The situation is as follows:
 
  I have a cron job that is triggered every minute. It has an average
  CPU usage of 56(17) according to the dash board.
  On the black list I cannot see any requests other than my cron job. It
  is nearly the only thing that needs CPU time.
 
  Normally what I got billed everyday was about 0.2 CPU hrs a day. In
  the meantime it is about 1.3 CPU hrs a day! That is more than 1/5 of
  the free quota just for this lightweight cron job!
 
  Henning
 
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Re: [appengine-java] Billed CPU time by far too high

2010-05-10 Thread Ikai L (Google)
If you are actually being billed, you'd fill out this form right here:

http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/billing.html

http://code.google.com/appengine/kb/billing.html1.3 CPU hours is still
significantly under the free quota, so this probably wouldn't be an option
for you. I'd advise running AppStats to profile where all the additional CPU
usage is coming from. This information would be extremely helpful both to
you as well as to other developers who may experience the same issues.
Without knowing additional information, it's also possible that you were
being *underbilled* previously and that we've corrected billing information.

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 10:08 AM, Henning henning2...@hotmail.de wrote:

 Hello,

 I posted about this topic already 2 weeks ago. The days after that my
 website got back to its normal levels of CPU time. But then things got
 even worse. What can I do now? How can I let the responsible
 developers at Google let know to fix it.

 The situation is as follows:

 I have a cron job that is triggered every minute. It has an average
 CPU usage of 56(17) according to the dash board.
 On the black list I cannot see any requests other than my cron job. It
 is nearly the only thing that needs CPU time.

 Normally what I got billed everyday was about 0.2 CPU hrs a day. In
 the meantime it is about 1.3 CPU hrs a day! That is more than 1/5 of
 the free quota just for this lightweight cron job!

 Henning

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[appengine-java] Billed CPU time by far too high

2010-05-09 Thread Henning
Hello,

I posted about this topic already 2 weeks ago. The days after that my
website got back to its normal levels of CPU time. But then things got
even worse. What can I do now? How can I let the responsible
developers at Google let know to fix it.

The situation is as follows:

I have a cron job that is triggered every minute. It has an average
CPU usage of 56(17) according to the dash board.
On the black list I cannot see any requests other than my cron job. It
is nearly the only thing that needs CPU time.

Normally what I got billed everyday was about 0.2 CPU hrs a day. In
the meantime it is about 1.3 CPU hrs a day! That is more than 1/5 of
the free quota just for this lightweight cron job!

Henning

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