[Google Wave APIs] Re: Wave is missing from my preview account??

2009-10-21 Thread Monika Adamczyk

I searched many ways, e.g. 'with:, using different
keywords from the conversation and simply trying to locate the wave in
my All folder. Nada, it's gone.

Monika


On Oct 19, 12:47 am, Brian May  wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 11:58:17AM -0700, Monika Adamczyk wrote:
> > I don't think this is a wave that shows and disappears. So far I can't
> > find it. It's seems like the wave was permanently removed from my
> > account.
>
> How are you trying to look for it? If you are searching based on the title, it
> is possible somebody has changed the title.
> --
> Brian May 
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Wave is missing from my preview account??

2009-10-21 Thread Monika Adamczyk

Granted, I wasn't creator of the wave, but my understanding it that it
is not possible to completely trash the wave for all participants,
only for itself. E.g if I archive a wave or move to a folder, the
change is visible only to me. Same would apply to moving a wave to
Trash folder, where I already checked, in case I trashed it myself
(can someone from Google confirm or deny my assumptions?).

On Oct 18, 9:53 am, David Trattnig  wrote:
> Is it possible that participants of a Wave "trash" the Wave although they
> are not the creator of the Wave? I mean not to delete the individual Blips
> but the whole Wave?
> david
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2009 at 12:28 AM, Monika Adamczyk  wrote:
>
> > I don't think this is a wave that shows and disappears. So far I can't
> > find it. It's seems like the wave was permanently removed from my
> > account.
>
> > Monika
>
> > On Oct 16, 12:59 pm, Sheruno  wrote:
> > > Sometimes you can experience some lag in the preview. Wave dissappear or
> > if
> > > you move one to a folder it need like 5 minutes or more to show it.
> > > It's a bit frustrating but is a preview. I hope it will work faster soon
> > ^_^
>
> > > 2009/10/16 Monika Adamczyk 
>
> > > > I had a wave 2 days ago in which I talked to someone and now no matter
> > > > how I search for it, I can't locate it.
>
> > > > I checked All folder and it's not there. I also searched for all waves
> > > > (with:...) I had with this user - nada. Nothing in my Trash as well.
>
> > > > My understanding is that even if one of the participants deletes all
> > > > blips in a wave, I should still have reference to the wave in my
> > > > account and I should be able to replay it.
>
> > > > As far as I know, this is the only wave that I am missing. Has anybody
> > > > else experienced loss of waves?
>
> > > > Monika
>
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Can Robot updates the wave outside processEvents()?

2009-10-21 Thread Kriván Bálint

Hi!

First let me say this: Wave is a great thing, if it's done it'll be
awesome!

I've got invite to the Live Google Wave preview, and I was developing
a robot, but a question came up: Is is possible to update a wave
(e.g.: append blip) outside processEvents() method (Java API)?
Or the robot can only interact when there is a wave specific event?
I would like to know this because I would like to connect the Robot
API with XMPP API and I would like to do things, when robot gets
message through XMPP. Is this possible somehow?

Thanks for your help!

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: What exactly are the rules for having state reflected back in the wave client

2009-10-21 Thread Venkat Polisetti



On Oct 5, 3:11 pm, "Brian Kennish (Googler)" 
wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Dagfinn Parnas  wrote:
> > Any news on when this will be added to the Java API?
>
> Hey Dagfinn, it'll be in the next cut of the Java library. You can
> subscribe to various project updates here ("Downloads" is what you're
> waiting on):http://code.google.com/p/wave-robot-java-client/feeds.

The Java robot jar file still has the date time stamp as "wave-robot-
api-20090916.jar". It looks like there is no update to the Java robot
library.

Regards,
Venkat Polisetti


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[Google Wave APIs] Re: JSON from robot (python) to gadget the right way

2009-10-21 Thread Agustin Horischnik
Gotcha. Yeah, I can see why is better for concurrency.
Thanks for your help.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:05 AM, pamela (Google Employee) <
pamela...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For example, if you are storing the information about a shape that a
> participant just drew:
> You could do:
> delta = {'pamela.fox': "{'color':'red','shape':'circle'}"}
>
> Or, you could do:
> delta = {'pamela.fox-color': 'red'}
> delta = {'pamela.fox-shape': 'circle'}
>
> It may seem less elegant, but it is better in terms of concurrency, as it
> means that I can independently change different properties.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Agustin Horischnik wrote:
>
>>
>> > Ah, got it. What was your experiencing with using simplejson? You should
>> be
>> > able to serialize that object and pass it through the delta. We don't
>> have a
>> > demo of that, but think it should work.
>>
>> I don't remember but I'll re-try simplejson and report back.
>>
>> > You could also consider using more complex keys, like
>> > viewerName-propertyName-subPropertyName, etc. That is a bit better in
>> terms
>> > of concurrency.
>>
>> hmm... I'm not sure I get that... could you please give me an example
>> whenever you have the time?
>>
>> Agustin.
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: JSON from robot (python) to gadget the right way

2009-10-21 Thread pamela (Google Employee)
For example, if you are storing the information about a shape that a
participant just drew:
You could do:
delta = {'pamela.fox': "{'color':'red','shape':'circle'}"}

Or, you could do:
delta = {'pamela.fox-color': 'red'}
delta = {'pamela.fox-shape': 'circle'}

It may seem less elegant, but it is better in terms of concurrency, as it
means that I can independently change different properties.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Agustin Horischnik wrote:

>
> > Ah, got it. What was your experiencing with using simplejson? You should
> be
> > able to serialize that object and pass it through the delta. We don't
> have a
> > demo of that, but think it should work.
>
> I don't remember but I'll re-try simplejson and report back.
>
> > You could also consider using more complex keys, like
> > viewerName-propertyName-subPropertyName, etc. That is a bit better in
> terms
> > of concurrency.
>
> hmm... I'm not sure I get that... could you please give me an example
> whenever you have the time?
>
> Agustin.
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: JSON from robot (python) to gadget the right way

2009-10-21 Thread Agustin Horischnik

> Ah, got it. What was your experiencing with using simplejson? You should be
> able to serialize that object and pass it through the delta. We don't have a
> demo of that, but think it should work.

I don't remember but I'll re-try simplejson and report back.

> You could also consider using more complex keys, like
> viewerName-propertyName-subPropertyName, etc. That is a bit better in terms
> of concurrency.

hmm... I'm not sure I get that... could you please give me an example
whenever you have the time?

Agustin.

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: JSON from robot (python) to gadget the right way

2009-10-21 Thread pamela (Google Employee)
Ah, got it. What was your experiencing with using simplejson? You should be
able to serialize that object and pass it through the delta. We don't have a
demo of that, but think it should work.
You could also consider using more complex keys, like
viewerName-propertyName-subPropertyName, etc. That is a bit better in terms
of concurrency.

- pamela

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 5:35 AM, Agustin Horischnik wrote:

>
> Hi Pamela, thanks for your answer.
>
> I did look at Row of 4 code and I just double checked it but I think
> it doesn't send anything more than strings or numbers as values within
> the delta dictionary.
>
> What I meant was something like this:
>
>
> controls = document.Gadget('http://MYAPP.appspot.com/public/
> controls.xml')
> doc.AppendElement(controls)
> delta = {}
> foo = ['One', 'Two', 'Three']
> delta['bar'] = foo
> controls.SubmitDelta(delta)
>
> I've tried this and an odd thing happens: the gadget doesn't get
> appended to the blip but I see no errors in the log... The debug log
> shows:
>
> CONSTRUCTING gadget with:{'url': 'http://MYAPP.appspot.com/public/
> controls.xml', 'foobar': ['One', 'Two', 'Three']}
>
> Outgoing:
> [...]
> "  property":{
>   "type":"GADGET",
>   "properties":{
>  "javaClass":"java.util.HashMap",
>  "map":{
> "url":"http://MYAPP.appspot.com/public/
> controls.xml",
> "foobar":{
>"javaClass":"java.util.HashMap",
>"map":{
>   "javaClass":"java.util.ArrayList",
>   "list":{
>  "javaClass":"java.util.ArrayList",
>  "list":[
> "One",
> "Two",
> "Three"
>  ]
>
> [...]
>
>
> Is using a list object as a value in a dictionary not supported when
> sending delta?
>
> Cheers.
> Agustin.
>
>
>
> On Oct 21, 6:02 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
> wrote:
> > Hi Agustin-
> > The "Row of 4" robot does that. Have you looked at it's code?
> http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=36022
> >
> > - pamela
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Agustin Horischnik  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Hi, I have a python robot which updates the state of a gadget. What
> > > would be the right way to pass a list/array to the gadget? I assume
> > > it's encoding it in JSON, right? But what's the right way to do that?
> > > I tried importing simplejson from Django but it didn't really work
> > > very well.
> >
> > > Is anybody doing this kind of thing?
> >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Agustin.
> >
> >
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Does StyledText / StyleType work in the Java API?

2009-10-21 Thread Chris C.

I've got a robot running, and I was considering using StyledText as a
slightly more convenient means of boldfacing part of the output, since
I only need boldface and I wouldn't have to mess with start and end
points of an annotation. However, when using it, it seems to have no
effect. Am I doing it wrong, or does it not work?

Here's the command I'm issuing: adjInsert is the 'adjusted insertion'
point for the new text (since the robot replaces multiple elements in
a single blip, I have to adjust for what's already been replaced), and
'rep' is the robot's reply (the string being formatted with the
style):


txt.insertStyledText(adjInsert, new StyledText(rep,StyleType.BOLD));

I've also tried:

StyledText styledRep = new StyledText(rep, StyleType.BOLD);

and then using insertStyledText() to insert that StyledText object,
but neither seems to have an effect on the output. Thoughts? Did I
break it?

Thanks,
Chris


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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Embed API

2009-10-21 Thread JonB

Receiving this in Firefox->Tools->Error Console, followed by a bunch
of related _fsd errrors.

I'm trying to copy/paste the code into a local file and few in
Firefox, but no luck.  Looks like something loads, then this
JavaScript error, then a blank screen.

Error: uncaught exception: [Exception... "An invalid or illegal string
was specified"  code: "12" nsresult: "0x8053000c
(NS_ERROR_DOM_SYNTAX_ERR)"  location: "https://wave.google.com/gadgets/
js/core:rpc Line: 534"]

Appreciate any pointers...

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Internal links in Wave

2009-10-21 Thread Jack Park

See
http://code.google.com/p/google-wave-resources/issues/detail?id=79

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:48 PM, Sam Osborne
 wrote:
> At the moment, there is no such feature (that i'm aware of) to link a single
> blip.. But, in the wish-list there's starring blips so I think we're
> stepping in the right direction.
>
> 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
>>
>> Close.
>> I think there is a desire to point at an individual blip in a wave, an
>> individual wavelet, etc. Every thing, according to Engelbart, should
>> be addressable. Thus, the earlier suggestion to make each wavelet or
>> blip addressable, perhaps with the equivalent of html anchors, xpath,
>> etc.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sam Osborne
>>  wrote:
>> > What I am getting from your first question is that you want to link a
>> > Wave
>> > in another Wave. There are two ways to do this:
>> >
>> > Drag and drop the Wave you wish to link to into the Wave you're in
>> > Make the link manually (I'll explain this if the 1st isn't what you're
>> > looking for (though I think that you can edit the text in the first
>> > way...)
>> >
>> > 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
>> >>
>> >> Sam,
>> >>
>> >> You say "enter something...".  What would that *something* be, and
>> >> what would I expect to happen?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >> Jack
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Sam Osborne
>> >>  wrote:
>> >> > Not sure if this is to do with what you're looking for, but it may
>> >> > help.
>> >> > Write some text, highlight said text, click the link button in the
>> >> > edit
>> >> > toolbar, enter something in the Wave ID option instead of URL.
>> >> >
>> >> > 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think this is similar to a request I made earlier in the issue
>> >> >> index
>> >> >> to make blips and wavelets web addressable. As I recall, there is
>> >> >> interest in doing that.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Jack
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Jonathan Hunt 
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Apologies if this is documented somewhere and I haven't be able to
>> >> >> > find it. Is there a method (perhaps some sort of annotation) of
>> >> >> > creating internal links within a wave (i.e as I said in my
>> >> >> > "earlier
>> >> >> > blip") where earlier blip is a link to the blip of interest, or
>> >> >> > links
>> >> >> > to a specific part of a Wave from other Waves (i.e. as "Mr Fishy
>> >> >> > said"
>> >> >> > in this other Wave linking to the correct blip in the Wave). I
>> >> >> > guess
>> >> >> > this could get complicated if Waves are edited etc. but it seems
>> >> >> > also
>> >> >> > quite useful. I am interested if there is a standard for how to do
>> >> >> > this because I want people to be able to refer to equations (i.e.
>> >> >> > as
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > showed in *eqn 4* etc.) and I'm writing an equation gadget/robot.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The other question I had was, somewhat related. Is there a
>> >> >> > standard
>> >> >> > way to link to a Wave. The reason I ask is most links are
>> >> >> > currently
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > the form "wave.google.com/..." or "wave.google.com/a/sandbox..."
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > obviously once Waves are federated I just want to point to the
>> >> >> > Wave
>> >> >> > independent of the client. I.e. I might be using wave.google.com
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > you might be using fedone.com for your waving, but we can both
>> >> >> > access
>> >> >> > the public wave which was started on example.com in our clients.
>> >> >> > It
>> >> >> > seems there is two ways of doing this, defining a Wave protocol
>> >> >> > (wave://example.com/#HASH) or using a standardized HTML redirect
>> >> >> > (i.e.
>> >> >> > always link waves as http://wave.com/example.com/#HASH) and the
>> >> >> > redirect can ask (and remember) which client the user is using. Or
>> >> >> > possibly there are cleverer ways I haven't thought of.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Regards,
>> >> >> > Jonny
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > Jonathan J Hunt 
>> >> >> > Homepage: http://www.42quarks.com
>> >> >> > (Further contact details there)
>> >> >> > "Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is." Richard Feynman
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Issues with deleting and appending blips and inline blips

2009-10-21 Thread cretzel

Now I tried to append a simple textarea gadget and update it's
contents on blip submitted events. Unfortunately I cannot update the
gadget state from within the robot.

http://code.google.com/p/wave-robot-java-client/issues/detail?id=5
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: FYI: Password Reset Requests

2009-10-21 Thread Joel Dietz
> I initially emailed the googleinvites admin address almost a month ago now
> and have also forwarded through the initial "Ready to Wave" invite and have
> now also resubmitted my request via the original form as stated in your
> email. Sad news is that I have yet to receive anything in reply :-(
>
> I was really keen to continue working on a robot which I had started during
> one of the Google Hackathons, but am now at a loss as to what to do? Or
> should I just rest assured that it will be reset *soon*.
>
>

I have also done all of the above, starting more than a month ago. Would be
nice to get a reset!

Jd



>
>
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:27 PM, pamela (Google employee) <
> pamela@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Since Wave sandbox is on a Google Apps domain, it does not have an
>> automated password reset system. This means that every request for a
>> password reset must be manually processed by the domain adminstrator
>> (us).
>>
>> We have received an unexpected number of requests for password resets
>> for Wave sandbox, and after trying to fulfill them, we have realized
>> that we are unable to fulfill all the reset requests.
>> Please request a new sandbox account if you have forgotten your
>> password or are unable to access your current one for whatever reason:
>> https://services.google.com/fb/forms/wavesignupfordev/
>> That form was temporarily disabled, but is back up now.
>>
>> We know this is less than ideal, so thank you for your patience.
>>
>> If you haven't forgotten your password, please make sure it's written
>> down somewhere.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Internal links in Wave

2009-10-21 Thread Sam Osborne
At the moment, there is no such feature (that i'm aware of) to link a single
blip.. But, in the wish-list there's starring blips so I think we're
stepping in the right direction.

2009/10/21 Jack Park 

>
> Close.
> I think there is a desire to point at an individual blip in a wave, an
> individual wavelet, etc. Every thing, according to Engelbart, should
> be addressable. Thus, the earlier suggestion to make each wavelet or
> blip addressable, perhaps with the equivalent of html anchors, xpath,
> etc.
>
> Jack
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sam Osborne
>  wrote:
> > What I am getting from your first question is that you want to link a
> Wave
> > in another Wave. There are two ways to do this:
> >
> > Drag and drop the Wave you wish to link to into the Wave you're in
> > Make the link manually (I'll explain this if the 1st isn't what you're
> > looking for (though I think that you can edit the text in the first
> way...)
> >
> > 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
> >>
> >> Sam,
> >>
> >> You say "enter something...".  What would that *something* be, and
> >> what would I expect to happen?
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Jack
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Sam Osborne
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Not sure if this is to do with what you're looking for, but it may
> help.
> >> > Write some text, highlight said text, click the link button in the
> edit
> >> > toolbar, enter something in the Wave ID option instead of URL.
> >> >
> >> > 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
> >> >>
> >> >> I think this is similar to a request I made earlier in the issue
> index
> >> >> to make blips and wavelets web addressable. As I recall, there is
> >> >> interest in doing that.
> >> >>
> >> >> Jack
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Jonathan Hunt 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi all,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Apologies if this is documented somewhere and I haven't be able to
> >> >> > find it. Is there a method (perhaps some sort of annotation) of
> >> >> > creating internal links within a wave (i.e as I said in my "earlier
> >> >> > blip") where earlier blip is a link to the blip of interest, or
> links
> >> >> > to a specific part of a Wave from other Waves (i.e. as "Mr Fishy
> >> >> > said"
> >> >> > in this other Wave linking to the correct blip in the Wave). I
> guess
> >> >> > this could get complicated if Waves are edited etc. but it seems
> also
> >> >> > quite useful. I am interested if there is a standard for how to do
> >> >> > this because I want people to be able to refer to equations (i.e.
> as
> >> >> > I
> >> >> > showed in *eqn 4* etc.) and I'm writing an equation gadget/robot.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The other question I had was, somewhat related. Is there a standard
> >> >> > way to link to a Wave. The reason I ask is most links are currently
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > the form "wave.google.com/..." or "wave.google.com/a/sandbox..."
> but
> >> >> > obviously once Waves are federated I just want to point to the Wave
> >> >> > independent of the client. I.e. I might be using wave.google.comand
> >> >> > you might be using fedone.com for your waving, but we can both
> access
> >> >> > the public wave which was started on example.com in our clients.
> It
> >> >> > seems there is two ways of doing this, defining a Wave protocol
> >> >> > (wave://example.com/#HASH) or using a standardized HTML redirect
> >> >> > (i.e.
> >> >> > always link waves as http://wave.com/example.com/#HASH) and the
> >> >> > redirect can ask (and remember) which client the user is using. Or
> >> >> > possibly there are cleverer ways I haven't thought of.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Regards,
> >> >> > Jonny
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Jonathan J Hunt 
> >> >> > Homepage: http://www.42quarks.com
> >> >> > (Further contact details there)
> >> >> > "Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is." Richard Feynman
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Internal links in Wave

2009-10-21 Thread Jack Park

Close.
I think there is a desire to point at an individual blip in a wave, an
individual wavelet, etc. Every thing, according to Engelbart, should
be addressable. Thus, the earlier suggestion to make each wavelet or
blip addressable, perhaps with the equivalent of html anchors, xpath,
etc.

Jack

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sam Osborne
 wrote:
> What I am getting from your first question is that you want to link a Wave
> in another Wave. There are two ways to do this:
>
> Drag and drop the Wave you wish to link to into the Wave you're in
> Make the link manually (I'll explain this if the 1st isn't what you're
> looking for (though I think that you can edit the text in the first way...)
>
> 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
>>
>> Sam,
>>
>> You say "enter something...".  What would that *something* be, and
>> what would I expect to happen?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Jack
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Sam Osborne
>>  wrote:
>> > Not sure if this is to do with what you're looking for, but it may help.
>> > Write some text, highlight said text, click the link button in the edit
>> > toolbar, enter something in the Wave ID option instead of URL.
>> >
>> > 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
>> >>
>> >> I think this is similar to a request I made earlier in the issue index
>> >> to make blips and wavelets web addressable. As I recall, there is
>> >> interest in doing that.
>> >>
>> >> Jack
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Jonathan Hunt 
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi all,
>> >> >
>> >> > Apologies if this is documented somewhere and I haven't be able to
>> >> > find it. Is there a method (perhaps some sort of annotation) of
>> >> > creating internal links within a wave (i.e as I said in my "earlier
>> >> > blip") where earlier blip is a link to the blip of interest, or links
>> >> > to a specific part of a Wave from other Waves (i.e. as "Mr Fishy
>> >> > said"
>> >> > in this other Wave linking to the correct blip in the Wave). I guess
>> >> > this could get complicated if Waves are edited etc. but it seems also
>> >> > quite useful. I am interested if there is a standard for how to do
>> >> > this because I want people to be able to refer to equations (i.e. as
>> >> > I
>> >> > showed in *eqn 4* etc.) and I'm writing an equation gadget/robot.
>> >> >
>> >> > The other question I had was, somewhat related. Is there a standard
>> >> > way to link to a Wave. The reason I ask is most links are currently
>> >> > of
>> >> > the form "wave.google.com/..." or "wave.google.com/a/sandbox..." but
>> >> > obviously once Waves are federated I just want to point to the Wave
>> >> > independent of the client. I.e. I might be using wave.google.com and
>> >> > you might be using fedone.com for your waving, but we can both access
>> >> > the public wave which was started on example.com in our clients. It
>> >> > seems there is two ways of doing this, defining a Wave protocol
>> >> > (wave://example.com/#HASH) or using a standardized HTML redirect
>> >> > (i.e.
>> >> > always link waves as http://wave.com/example.com/#HASH) and the
>> >> > redirect can ask (and remember) which client the user is using. Or
>> >> > possibly there are cleverer ways I haven't thought of.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards,
>> >> > Jonny
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Jonathan J Hunt 
>> >> > Homepage: http://www.42quarks.com
>> >> > (Further contact details there)
>> >> > "Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is." Richard Feynman
>> >> >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Internal links in Wave

2009-10-21 Thread Sam Osborne
What I am getting from your first question is that you want to link a Wave
in another Wave. There are two ways to do this:

   1. Drag and drop the Wave you wish to link to into the Wave you're in
   2. Make the link manually (I'll explain this if the 1st isn't what you're
   looking for (though I think that you can edit the text in the first way...)

2009/10/21 Jack Park 

>
> Sam,
>
> You say "enter something...".  What would that *something* be, and
> what would I expect to happen?
>
> Thanks
> Jack
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Sam Osborne
>  wrote:
> > Not sure if this is to do with what you're looking for, but it may help.
> > Write some text, highlight said text, click the link button in the edit
> > toolbar, enter something in the Wave ID option instead of URL.
> >
> > 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
> >>
> >> I think this is similar to a request I made earlier in the issue index
> >> to make blips and wavelets web addressable. As I recall, there is
> >> interest in doing that.
> >>
> >> Jack
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Jonathan Hunt 
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Apologies if this is documented somewhere and I haven't be able to
> >> > find it. Is there a method (perhaps some sort of annotation) of
> >> > creating internal links within a wave (i.e as I said in my "earlier
> >> > blip") where earlier blip is a link to the blip of interest, or links
> >> > to a specific part of a Wave from other Waves (i.e. as "Mr Fishy said"
> >> > in this other Wave linking to the correct blip in the Wave). I guess
> >> > this could get complicated if Waves are edited etc. but it seems also
> >> > quite useful. I am interested if there is a standard for how to do
> >> > this because I want people to be able to refer to equations (i.e. as I
> >> > showed in *eqn 4* etc.) and I'm writing an equation gadget/robot.
> >> >
> >> > The other question I had was, somewhat related. Is there a standard
> >> > way to link to a Wave. The reason I ask is most links are currently of
> >> > the form "wave.google.com/..." or "wave.google.com/a/sandbox..." but
> >> > obviously once Waves are federated I just want to point to the Wave
> >> > independent of the client. I.e. I might be using wave.google.com and
> >> > you might be using fedone.com for your waving, but we can both access
> >> > the public wave which was started on example.com in our clients. It
> >> > seems there is two ways of doing this, defining a Wave protocol
> >> > (wave://example.com/#HASH) or using a standardized HTML redirect
> (i.e.
> >> > always link waves as http://wave.com/example.com/#HASH) and the
> >> > redirect can ask (and remember) which client the user is using. Or
> >> > possibly there are cleverer ways I haven't thought of.
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Jonny
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Jonathan J Hunt 
> >> > Homepage: http://www.42quarks.com
> >> > (Further contact details there)
> >> > "Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is." Richard Feynman
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: JSON from robot (python) to gadget the right way

2009-10-21 Thread Agustin Horischnik

Hi Pamela, thanks for your answer.

I did look at Row of 4 code and I just double checked it but I think
it doesn't send anything more than strings or numbers as values within
the delta dictionary.

What I meant was something like this:


controls = document.Gadget('http://MYAPP.appspot.com/public/
controls.xml')
doc.AppendElement(controls)
delta = {}
foo = ['One', 'Two', 'Three']
delta['bar'] = foo
controls.SubmitDelta(delta)

I've tried this and an odd thing happens: the gadget doesn't get
appended to the blip but I see no errors in the log... The debug log
shows:

CONSTRUCTING gadget with:{'url': 'http://MYAPP.appspot.com/public/
controls.xml', 'foobar': ['One', 'Two', 'Three']}

Outgoing:
[...]
"  property":{
   "type":"GADGET",
   "properties":{
  "javaClass":"java.util.HashMap",
  "map":{
 "url":"http://MYAPP.appspot.com/public/
controls.xml",
 "foobar":{
"javaClass":"java.util.HashMap",
"map":{
   "javaClass":"java.util.ArrayList",
   "list":{
  "javaClass":"java.util.ArrayList",
  "list":[
 "One",
 "Two",
 "Three"
  ]

[...]


Is using a list object as a value in a dictionary not supported when
sending delta?

Cheers.
Agustin.



On Oct 21, 6:02 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
wrote:
> Hi Agustin-
> The "Row of 4" robot does that. Have you looked at it's 
> code?http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=36022
>
> - pamela
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Agustin Horischnik wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi, I have a python robot which updates the state of a gadget. What
> > would be the right way to pass a list/array to the gadget? I assume
> > it's encoding it in JSON, right? But what's the right way to do that?
> > I tried importing simplejson from Django but it didn't really work
> > very well.
>
> > Is anybody doing this kind of thing?
>
> > Thanks.
> > Agustin.
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: JSON from robot (python) to gadget the right way

2009-10-21 Thread Agustin Horischnik

Hi Pamela, thanks for your answer.

I did look at Row of 4 code and I just double checked it but I think
it doesn't send anything more than strings or numbers as values within
the delta dictionary.

What I meant was something like this:

delta = {}
foo = ['One', 'Two', 'Three']
delta['bar'] = foo
controls.SubmitDelta(delta)

I've tried this and something odd happens: the gadget doesn't get
appended to the blip but I see no errors in the log... The debug log
shows:

CONSTRUCTING gadget with:{'url': 'http://MYAPP.appspot.com/public/
controls.xml', 'foobar': ['One', 'Two', 'Three']}

Outgoing:
[...]
"  property":{
   "type":"GADGET",
   "properties":{
  "javaClass":"java.util.HashMap",
  "map":{
 "url":"http://MYAPP.appspot.com/public/
controls.xml",
 "foobar":{
"javaClass":"java.util.HashMap",
"map":{
   "javaClass":"java.util.ArrayList",
   "list":{
  "javaClass":"java.util.ArrayList",
  "list":[
 "One",
 "Two",
 "Three"
  ]

[...]


Is it a dictionary with a list object as value not suported as delta?

Cheers.


On Oct 21, 6:02 pm, "pamela (Google Employee)" 
wrote:
> Hi Agustin-
> The "Row of 4" robot does that. Have you looked at it's 
> code?http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=36022
>
> - pamela
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Agustin Horischnik wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi, I have a python robot which updates the state of a gadget. What
> > would be the right way to pass a list/array to the gadget? I assume
> > it's encoding it in JSON, right? But what's the right way to do that?
> > I tried importing simplejson from Django but it didn't really work
> > very well.
>
> > Is anybody doing this kind of thing?
>
> > Thanks.
> > Agustin.
>
>
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Office Hours in 10 Minutes

2009-10-21 Thread Brian Kennish (Googler)

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Brian Kennish (Googler)
 wrote:
> Come chat at https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/ by searching
> for [with:public "office hours"].

The wave is here if you're having trouble finding it:
https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/#restored:wave:wavesandbox.com!w%252BosqB5uH6A.

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: I'm sure this has been asked before but... Where is the Server Code?

2009-10-21 Thread Austin Chau (Google employee)
The Wave server code hasn't been released yet and it's still an ongoing
process.  You should jump into the wave protocol group to catch the latest
stuff relating to Wave protocol and federation.
http://groups.google.com/group/wave-protocol


On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Penthos  wrote:
>
>
> Please pardon my ignorance but I've done several searches in this
> forum and have been unable to find what I am looking for.
>
> I thought Wave Server code was available to Sandbox account holders to
> set up test servers for experimentation. Am I mistaken? If not, could
> someone please post the link? (I'm NOT talking about the basic Fedone
> example that only allows for console command line clients found here:
> http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/downloads/list).
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Office Hours in 10 Minutes

2009-10-21 Thread Brian Kennish (Googler)

Come chat at https://wave.google.com/a/wavesandbox.com/ by searching
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[Google Wave APIs] Force robot to send updates to client

2009-10-21 Thread Wookai

I have a robot that sometimes does a lot of opreations (~100), that
each takes some time. The whole process takes up to a few seconds (it
gets content from another website, to the main lag is from the
network), which is not very user-friendly.

Moreover, one new blip is added to the wave for each operation, and it
seems that sometimes, when there are lots of blips and when their
content is not very small (a few lines of text), the updates are not
received at all !

On the robot side, in the logs, everything is fine, no error, and the
outgoing data looks good (but is truncated in the logs, maybe that's
the problme ? Is there a maximum size ?). But on the client side, no
new blip !

Is there a way to force the new blips to be sent as soon as they're
ready (and not only once the whole thing is done) ?

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[Google Wave APIs] problem with cron jobs and python

2009-10-21 Thread Wookai

I'm trying to have some updates done periodically, and to do so I'm
using the cron feature. Everything works fine, my code is called at
the right interval, but I'm stuck with the problem described here :
http://code.google.com/p/wave-robot-python-client/issues/detail?id=11

I cannot parse the JSON data received in order to get the context, and
then have access to the waves, etc...

Is there a way around this ? Or are all bots that rely on this cron
feature down ?

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: operations reported back to the robot that did them

2009-10-21 Thread Evan Winslow

I have also experienced this behavior.

On Oct 21, 2:25 am, markowl  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I created a java robot which receives events for BLIP_SUBMITTED, which
> it responds to by appending it's own child Blip.
>
> This results in another BLIP_SUBMITTED event being received and an
> infinite loop of operation/event.
>
> I'm really surprised by this behaviour as the 
> documentationhttp://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/index.html
>
> Says:
> A robot can perform operations on any wavelet in which it is a
> participant, and can also create new wavelets and waves. Operations
> performed by a robot are not reported back to the robot that did them,
> though they are reported to other participants in the affected
> wavelets, including other robots.
>
> Which seems to be contradictory to the observed behaviour.
>
> Rgds,
> Mark

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[Google Wave APIs] I'm sure this has been asked before but... Where is the Server Code?

2009-10-21 Thread Penthos

Please pardon my ignorance but I've done several searches in this
forum and have been unable to find what I am looking for.

I thought Wave Server code was available to Sandbox account holders to
set up test servers for experimentation. Am I mistaken? If not, could
someone please post the link? (I'm NOT talking about the basic Fedone
example that only allows for console command line clients found here:
http://code.google.com/p/wave-protocol/downloads/list).

Thanks in advance!

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Creating a new wave using embed API or robots

2009-10-21 Thread Patrick Amaru

There seems to be a method for creating Waves in the Python Robot API, 
did you try that?

http://wave-robot-python-client.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/pydocs/waveapi.robot_abstract-module.html

I'm interested in the same functionality but haven't tried the Python 
API, either.
If you try this, please post back whether it works for you... Thanks!

Patrick


yariv.snapir schrieb:
> I have been trying to figure out a way to automatically (through the
> code) generate a new wave. I would like to be able to create a new
> wave (conversation) for each object stored in my application to enable
> collaboration involving this object (example: opening a wave
> conversation that would track human changes for a new mail order). The
> Tutorial states that: "Currently, we do not allow you to create a new
> wave from scratch in this environment". My question: will this be
> possible at any time in the future?
>
> I also thought I might implement a robot that will automatically
> create new waves. The robots overview states: "A robot can perform
> operations on any wavelet in which it is a participant, and can also
> create new wavelets and waves". However, I could not find any API in
> the robot API reference that enables creation of new Waves (only
> wavelets).
>
> Anyone have an idea?
>
> Thanks
>
> >
>
>   


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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Internal links in Wave

2009-10-21 Thread Jack Park

Sam,

You say "enter something...".  What would that *something* be, and
what would I expect to happen?

Thanks
Jack

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Sam Osborne
 wrote:
> Not sure if this is to do with what you're looking for, but it may help.
> Write some text, highlight said text, click the link button in the edit
> toolbar, enter something in the Wave ID option instead of URL.
>
> 2009/10/21 Jack Park 
>>
>> I think this is similar to a request I made earlier in the issue index
>> to make blips and wavelets web addressable. As I recall, there is
>> interest in doing that.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Jonathan Hunt  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Apologies if this is documented somewhere and I haven't be able to
>> > find it. Is there a method (perhaps some sort of annotation) of
>> > creating internal links within a wave (i.e as I said in my "earlier
>> > blip") where earlier blip is a link to the blip of interest, or links
>> > to a specific part of a Wave from other Waves (i.e. as "Mr Fishy said"
>> > in this other Wave linking to the correct blip in the Wave). I guess
>> > this could get complicated if Waves are edited etc. but it seems also
>> > quite useful. I am interested if there is a standard for how to do
>> > this because I want people to be able to refer to equations (i.e. as I
>> > showed in *eqn 4* etc.) and I'm writing an equation gadget/robot.
>> >
>> > The other question I had was, somewhat related. Is there a standard
>> > way to link to a Wave. The reason I ask is most links are currently of
>> > the form "wave.google.com/..." or "wave.google.com/a/sandbox..." but
>> > obviously once Waves are federated I just want to point to the Wave
>> > independent of the client. I.e. I might be using wave.google.com and
>> > you might be using fedone.com for your waving, but we can both access
>> > the public wave which was started on example.com in our clients. It
>> > seems there is two ways of doing this, defining a Wave protocol
>> > (wave://example.com/#HASH) or using a standardized HTML redirect (i.e.
>> > always link waves as http://wave.com/example.com/#HASH) and the
>> > redirect can ask (and remember) which client the user is using. Or
>> > possibly there are cleverer ways I haven't thought of.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Jonny
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jonathan J Hunt 
>> > Homepage: http://www.42quarks.com
>> > (Further contact details there)
>> > "Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is." Richard Feynman
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: beginner trying to embed....

2009-10-21 Thread Sam Osborne
Oh really?? That's really convenient! Cheers!

2009/10/21 Craig 

>
> Didn't work for me first time either. Figured out it doesn't work when
> accessing the HTML from your file system. Whack the embed html on a
> web server somewhere, that should sort it.
>
> Cheers
> Craig
>
>
> On Oct 2, 8:46 am, Van Riper  wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Graham Anderson
> >
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > On Friday 02 October 2009 00:09:25 Jlcarroll wrote:
> > >>So I was trying toembeda wave, and I downloaded the hello world code
> > >>here:
> >
> > >>http://code.google.com/apis/wave/embed/guide.html
> >
> > > Sometimes the requested files in the the embedded iframe timeout. It's
> not
> > > perfect by any means.
> >
> > > You can add the temporary bot blog-...@appspot.com to your wave, it
> will
> > > report the wave ID and some sampleembedmarkup that is reported to work.
> You
> > > can probably modify/tweak things from there.
> >
> > Thanks for that suggestion. I just added it to one of my preview
> > account waves and it spits this out:
> >
> > Paste this snippet wherever you want the wave to show up:
> >
> > 
> >
> > And this one right before your  tag:
> >
> >  >   type="text/javascript"
> >   src="http://wave-api.appspot.com/public/embed.js";>
> > 
> > 
> >   var wave =
> > new WavePanel('https://wave.google.com/wave/');
> >   wave.setUIConfig('white', 'black', 'Arial', '13px');
> >   wave.loadWave('googlewave.com!w+xqoDO1w0A');
> >   wave.init(document.getElementById('wave'));
> > 
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > -Van
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Internal links in Wave

2009-10-21 Thread Sam Osborne
Not sure if this is to do with what you're looking for, but it may help.
Write some text, highlight said text, click the link button in the edit
toolbar, enter something in the Wave ID option instead of URL.

2009/10/21 Jack Park 

>
> I think this is similar to a request I made earlier in the issue index
> to make blips and wavelets web addressable. As I recall, there is
> interest in doing that.
>
> Jack
>
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Jonathan Hunt  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Apologies if this is documented somewhere and I haven't be able to
> > find it. Is there a method (perhaps some sort of annotation) of
> > creating internal links within a wave (i.e as I said in my "earlier
> > blip") where earlier blip is a link to the blip of interest, or links
> > to a specific part of a Wave from other Waves (i.e. as "Mr Fishy said"
> > in this other Wave linking to the correct blip in the Wave). I guess
> > this could get complicated if Waves are edited etc. but it seems also
> > quite useful. I am interested if there is a standard for how to do
> > this because I want people to be able to refer to equations (i.e. as I
> > showed in *eqn 4* etc.) and I'm writing an equation gadget/robot.
> >
> > The other question I had was, somewhat related. Is there a standard
> > way to link to a Wave. The reason I ask is most links are currently of
> > the form "wave.google.com/..." or "wave.google.com/a/sandbox..." but
> > obviously once Waves are federated I just want to point to the Wave
> > independent of the client. I.e. I might be using wave.google.com and
> > you might be using fedone.com for your waving, but we can both access
> > the public wave which was started on example.com in our clients. It
> > seems there is two ways of doing this, defining a Wave protocol
> > (wave://example.com/#HASH) or using a standardized HTML redirect (i.e.
> > always link waves as http://wave.com/example.com/#HASH) and the
> > redirect can ask (and remember) which client the user is using. Or
> > possibly there are cleverer ways I haven't thought of.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jonny
> >
> > --
> > Jonathan J Hunt 
> > Homepage: http://www.42quarks.com
> > (Further contact details there)
> > "Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is." Richard Feynman
> >
> > >
> >
>
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: JSON from robot (python) to gadget the right way

2009-10-21 Thread pamela (Google Employee)
Hi Agustin-
The "Row of 4" robot does that. Have you looked at it's code?
http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=36022

- pamela

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:56 AM, Agustin Horischnik wrote:

>
> Hi, I have a python robot which updates the state of a gadget. What
> would be the right way to pass a list/array to the gadget? I assume
> it's encoding it in JSON, right? But what's the right way to do that?
> I tried importing simplejson from Django but it didn't really work
> very well.
>
> Is anybody doing this kind of thing?
>
> Thanks.
> Agustin.
> >
>

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[Google Wave APIs] JSON from robot (python) to gadget the right way

2009-10-21 Thread Agustin Horischnik

Hi, I have a python robot which updates the state of a gadget. What
would be the right way to pass a list/array to the gadget? I assume
it's encoding it in JSON, right? But what's the right way to do that?
I tried importing simplejson from Django but it didn't really work
very well.

Is anybody doing this kind of thing?

Thanks.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: applying google wave to project managment model

2009-10-21 Thread Corey

I was trying a few things with project plan files from OpenProj today
to see what some of the possibilities could be.

reference: http://openproj.org

Dragging and dropping an openproj, .prod file works along with a
project exported to and xml format.  Unfortunately, editing either two
were not possible or maybe I missed something and someone else knows
how.

I know I need to do a couple of use case diagrams, but I wanted try
before diagramming.

BTW add me to your wave contacts if you wish,
coreyle...@wavesandbox.com.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance,

Corey





On Oct 11, 11:08 am, Corey  wrote:
> Well I finally received my sandbox account late last nite. :)
>
> I'm reading the docs today so feel free to add me as a contact:
>
> coreyle...@wavesandbox.com
>
> Besides blogging my research, I would be open to working with anyone
> interested inprojectmgmt + gwave.
>
> happy sunday,
>
> Corey
>
> On Aug 31, 9:45 am, Corey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Thanks Saidy for the suggestion.
>
> > I'm still filling out the form and submitting at least 6 times per
> > day.
>
> > Not giving up hope, yet.
>
> > Corey
>
> > On Aug 26, 1:44 pm, Saidy Smeenk  wrote:
>
> > > well corey, you need to keep on filling the form untill you get the
> > > gwave. I did that
> > > and next day i got it. after filling it like 6 times.
>
> > > On Aug 25, 6:25 pm, Corey  wrote:
>
> > > > Thanks to all for added their suggestions and ideas to this thread.
>
> > > > Unbelievably, I'm still waiting for my username/pwd to my sandbox.
> > > > (going on 11+ days)
>
> > > > As soon as I'm "in", I look forward to adding to the pm discussion.
>
> > > > Corey
>
> > > > On Aug 16, 2:42 pm, twdarkflame  wrote:
>
> > > > > I agree, it could be incredibly powerfull.
>
> > > > > Has anyone looked at;http://www.a.freshbrain.com/solvr/
> > > > > Orhttp://vark.com/home (the gmail chat bot specificaly)
> > > > > ?
> > > > > Both those applications, or things like them, would work very well on
> > > > > Wave. Potentially revolutionising collective problem solving.
>
> > > > > On Aug 14, 3:25 pm, Michael K  wrote:
>
> > > > > > I am working on something similar / related, though not for the real
> > > > > > estate world. My background is from software, so I'm more familiar
> > > > > > withmanagementof software projects. Not sure how different that
> > > > > > really is though.
>
> > > > > > I think wave has a lot of potential for this kind of application, 
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > especially in the software world as Jason has mentioned. If you
> > > > > > consider the collaborative aspects and the support for real-time
> > > > > > updates, wave can be a very powerful platform for pm.
>
> > > > > > On Aug 13, 3:03 pm, Corey  wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Greetings all --
>
> > > > > > > I received my gwave invitation this morning so I thought I'd jump 
> > > > > > > into
> > > > > > > the conversations.
>
> > > > > > > After watching the videos and reading the docs, my initial 
> > > > > > > thought is
> > > > > > > to apply google wave to managing projects.  I'm currently 
> > > > > > > developing a
> > > > > > > pm model for the real estate industry and have enabled one of my
> > > > > > > openfire servers for the wave protocol so I await anxiously for my
> > > > > > > userid/pwd.
>
> > > > > > > So if anyone else is interested in the pm + gw realm, please feel 
> > > > > > > free
> > > > > > > to discuss this topic with me and hopefully others.
>
> > > > > > > Thanks for your time,
>
> > > > > > > Corey
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Outgoing HTTP connections within a appengine-hosted Wave bot

2009-10-21 Thread Gijsbert

You can use urllib and urllib2, they are implemented on top of
urlfetch.

On Oct 20, 2:46 pm, "Austin Chau (Google employee)"
 wrote:
> The requirement is specific to the platform.  So yes, Python client library
> has it own specific way to do fetch.  You would use the fetch() method 
> provided
> by the google.appengine.api.urlfetch package.
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Nicolas Perriault 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Austin Chau (Google employee)
> >  wrote:
>
> > > Since robots is hosted within Google Appengine(GAE) and GAE only allows
> > > external HTTP connection be made with java.net.URLConnection, other
> > > mechanism might not be enabled.
>
> > Okay thanks for the tip. Do you know if the Python library has the
> > same kind of restriction?
>
> > ++
>
> > --
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Is it possible to import GWT gadget into wave

2009-10-21 Thread qMax

Have you see piano gadget?
http://wave-samples-gallery.appspot.com/about_app?app_id=22015

It tends to play sounds somehow,
but it quite buggy under firefox w/out some proper plugins.

On Oct 1, 6:22 am, maxsap  wrote:
> Hello all, I am developing a gadget for the wave and while I was
> looking for a way to play audio from within the wave without using
> flash I got this idea.This 
> articlehttp://groups.google.com/group/Google-Web-Toolkit/browse_thread/threa...
> says that it is possible to build a google gadget withGWTbut could I
> use the same gadget as a wave gadget?
> thanks in advanced maxsap
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave sandbox account?

2009-10-21 Thread \x00

I have also have had the same with the invite and form. I been pretty
patient only ever applied ones early on and have not nagged once.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Google Wave sandbox account?

2009-10-21 Thread \x00

I have also have had the same with the invite and form. I been pretty
patient only ever applied onece early on and have not nagged once.
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[Google Wave APIs] Re: beginner trying to embed....

2009-10-21 Thread Craig

Didn't work for me first time either. Figured out it doesn't work when
accessing the HTML from your file system. Whack the embed html on a
web server somewhere, that should sort it.

Cheers
Craig


On Oct 2, 8:46 am, Van Riper  wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 5:21 PM, Graham Anderson
>
>  wrote:
>
> > On Friday 02 October 2009 00:09:25 Jlcarroll wrote:
> >>So I was trying toembeda wave, and I downloaded the hello world code
> >>here:
>
> >>http://code.google.com/apis/wave/embed/guide.html
>
> > Sometimes the requested files in the the embedded iframe timeout. It's not
> > perfect by any means.
>
> > You can add the temporary bot blog-...@appspot.com to your wave, it will
> > report the wave ID and some sampleembedmarkup that is reported to work. You
> > can probably modify/tweak things from there.
>
> Thanks for that suggestion. I just added it to one of my preview
> account waves and it spits this out:
>
> Paste this snippet wherever you want the wave to show up:
>
> 
>
> And this one right before your  tag:
>
>    type="text/javascript"
>   src="http://wave-api.appspot.com/public/embed.js";>
> 
> 
>   var wave =
>     new WavePanel('https://wave.google.com/wave/');
>   wave.setUIConfig('white', 'black', 'Arial', '13px');
>   wave.loadWave('googlewave.com!w+xqoDO1w0A');
>   wave.init(document.getElementById('wave'));
> 
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -Van

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[Google Wave APIs] operations reported back to the robot that did them

2009-10-21 Thread markowl

Hello,

I created a java robot which receives events for BLIP_SUBMITTED, which
it responds to by appending it's own child Blip.

This results in another BLIP_SUBMITTED event being received and an
infinite loop of operation/event.

I'm really surprised by this behaviour as the documentation
http://code.google.com/apis/wave/extensions/robots/index.html

Says:
A robot can perform operations on any wavelet in which it is a
participant, and can also create new wavelets and waves. Operations
performed by a robot are not reported back to the robot that did them,
though they are reported to other participants in the affected
wavelets, including other robots.

Which seems to be contradictory to the observed behaviour.

Rgds,
Mark

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[Google Wave APIs] Creating a new wave using embed API or robots

2009-10-21 Thread yariv.snapir

I have been trying to figure out a way to automatically (through the
code) generate a new wave. I would like to be able to create a new
wave (conversation) for each object stored in my application to enable
collaboration involving this object (example: opening a wave
conversation that would track human changes for a new mail order). The
Tutorial states that: "Currently, we do not allow you to create a new
wave from scratch in this environment". My question: will this be
possible at any time in the future?

I also thought I might implement a robot that will automatically
create new waves. The robots overview states: "A robot can perform
operations on any wavelet in which it is a participant, and can also
create new wavelets and waves". However, I could not find any API in
the robot API reference that enables creation of new Waves (only
wavelets).

Anyone have an idea?

Thanks

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[Google Wave APIs] User Experience Question: Responding to a submitted blip

2009-10-21 Thread cretzel

I'm currently developing a robot, that recognizes BLIP_SUBMITTED
events. If the blip content starts with '!groovy' it interpretes the
content of the blip as Groovy (the programming language) code.

I wonder, what's the best way to display the result with respect to
user experience. I thought about some different approaches:

a) Append a child blip:
Add a child blip to the blip that contains the code. If there was
already a child blip appended by the robot, replace this.

b) Append an inline blip
Append an inline blip at the end of the code blip. Replace, if there
is alread one.

c) Append annotated text
Append annotated text at the end of the code blip. Replace, if there
is alread one.

d) Insert a gadget
Insert a gadget into a child blip (or inline), e.g. with a textarea
containing the result.

What do you think, would be the best way to do this?

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[Google Wave APIs] Issues with deleting and appending blips and inline blips

2009-10-21 Thread cretzel

I'm currently developing a robot, that recognizes BLIP_SUBMITTED
events. To respond to these events, I tried different things. First, I
wanted to delete all child blips of the blip and append a single new
child, like this

for (Blip child : blip.getChildren()) {
  child.delete();
}
blip.createChild().getDocument().append(...)

This worked only when the blip is submitted the first time. But when
that blip is edited later on nothing happens. The previously append
child blip just stays as it was.

Then I tried a different approach which worked fine:

TextView resultDocument;
if (blip.hasChildren()) {
resultDocument = blip.getChild(0).getDocument();
resultDocument.delete();
} else {
resultDocument = blip.createChild().getDocument();
}
resultDocument.append(...);

One thing I also tried, was to append an InlineBlip at the end of the
original blip. In this case, I recognized, that an inline blip was
really appended, but without any text.

Does anybody know, if there are any known issues with this. Am I doing
something wrong?

Notice, that all this happens in the real wave, not in the sandbox.
(@Google: Please give me sandbox access)

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[Google Wave APIs] Re: Internal links in Wave

2009-10-21 Thread Jack Park

I think this is similar to a request I made earlier in the issue index
to make blips and wavelets web addressable. As I recall, there is
interest in doing that.

Jack

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Jonathan Hunt  wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Apologies if this is documented somewhere and I haven't be able to
> find it. Is there a method (perhaps some sort of annotation) of
> creating internal links within a wave (i.e as I said in my "earlier
> blip") where earlier blip is a link to the blip of interest, or links
> to a specific part of a Wave from other Waves (i.e. as "Mr Fishy said"
> in this other Wave linking to the correct blip in the Wave). I guess
> this could get complicated if Waves are edited etc. but it seems also
> quite useful. I am interested if there is a standard for how to do
> this because I want people to be able to refer to equations (i.e. as I
> showed in *eqn 4* etc.) and I'm writing an equation gadget/robot.
>
> The other question I had was, somewhat related. Is there a standard
> way to link to a Wave. The reason I ask is most links are currently of
> the form "wave.google.com/..." or "wave.google.com/a/sandbox..." but
> obviously once Waves are federated I just want to point to the Wave
> independent of the client. I.e. I might be using wave.google.com and
> you might be using fedone.com for your waving, but we can both access
> the public wave which was started on example.com in our clients. It
> seems there is two ways of doing this, defining a Wave protocol
> (wave://example.com/#HASH) or using a standardized HTML redirect (i.e.
> always link waves as http://wave.com/example.com/#HASH) and the
> redirect can ask (and remember) which client the user is using. Or
> possibly there are cleverer ways I haven't thought of.
>
> Regards,
> Jonny
>
> --
> Jonathan J Hunt 
> Homepage: http://www.42quarks.com
> (Further contact details there)
> "Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is." Richard Feynman
>
> >
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[Google Wave APIs] Internal links in Wave

2009-10-21 Thread Jonathan Hunt

Hi all,

Apologies if this is documented somewhere and I haven't be able to
find it. Is there a method (perhaps some sort of annotation) of
creating internal links within a wave (i.e as I said in my "earlier
blip") where earlier blip is a link to the blip of interest, or links
to a specific part of a Wave from other Waves (i.e. as "Mr Fishy said"
in this other Wave linking to the correct blip in the Wave). I guess
this could get complicated if Waves are edited etc. but it seems also
quite useful. I am interested if there is a standard for how to do
this because I want people to be able to refer to equations (i.e. as I
showed in *eqn 4* etc.) and I'm writing an equation gadget/robot.

The other question I had was, somewhat related. Is there a standard
way to link to a Wave. The reason I ask is most links are currently of
the form "wave.google.com/..." or "wave.google.com/a/sandbox..." but
obviously once Waves are federated I just want to point to the Wave
independent of the client. I.e. I might be using wave.google.com and
you might be using fedone.com for your waving, but we can both access
the public wave which was started on example.com in our clients. It
seems there is two ways of doing this, defining a Wave protocol
(wave://example.com/#HASH) or using a standardized HTML redirect (i.e.
always link waves as http://wave.com/example.com/#HASH) and the
redirect can ask (and remember) which client the user is using. Or
possibly there are cleverer ways I haven't thought of.

Regards,
Jonny

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