Re: Entire Site in GWT?
Hi Mike, I was considering using Flash to build my site (http:// www.yournextpresent.com), but i'm really glad I chose GWT in the end! I was able to get all the animations I required working using the GWTFX library (http://code.google.com/p/gwt-fx/) and even got google crawling my site using the 'Making GWT crawlable' documentation which has already been linked to. I have a PHP/MySQL backend and have had no problems communicating with GWT via REST. Overall, definitely go for GWT! -RPB On Nov 8, 4:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > Hi Guys, > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > anything has changed. > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > exclusively for a new project. > > So my questions are: > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > Cheers, > Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
Hi Mike, my two cents. We implemented a product which is entire site itself and even allows others ( if they download and install it) to build kind of entire site, limited somehow though. Ref. http://www.projectkaiser.com:8080/pk. This is a project management and issue tracking solution which can describe itself. In connection to "GWT isn't web-crawlable". Well, for this we expose all our pages in static manner. Try to google, e.g., for: "Project Kaiser: Manual Installation". Normally you get the following link: http://www.projectkaiser.com:8080/pk/ps?f=22609 which is a print-friendly version of http://www.projectkaiser.com:8080/pk/?fileid=22609 Actually rendering code from client is reused in server. Maxim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
Hi Mike, We built our entire website using GWT (www.xplana.com) and it's been really great. Thanks to GWT, you can develop complex ajax application easily and quickly because everything is done in Java and UiBinder is really helpful to design your screens. Following the MVP pattern is definetely the best way to implement a GWT application (in our case, we used mvp4g, http://code.googlecode.com/p/mvp4g) and thanks to the code splitting feature, your application loads faster. Pierre On Nov 12, 7:20 am, "mike.cann" wrote: > Thanks everyone for your excellent tips, ill be sure to digest them > all before I make my decision :) > > Cheers, > Mike > > On Nov 12, 1:51 am, lineman78 wrote: > > > > > If your site is big enough to require a dedicated server I recommend > > Glassfish, but some projects just aren't big enough and shared Java > > hosting is very difficult to come by. Last time I looked for shared > > Java hosting some were starting to use Resin due to it's capability of > > handling both PHP and Java. GWT is very flexible. If I were to try > > and develop a small scale site on shared hosting I would probably use > > JSON as the communication protocol and a PHP back end using overlay > > objects on the client side for marshaling/unmarshaling. If you plan > > on using a dedicated server I would recommend a Glassfish(Java) back > > end with either JSON(Jersey) or GWT-RPC as the communication protocol. > > > On Nov 9, 6:54 am, "mike.cann" wrote: > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when > > > I make my choice. > > > > Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose > > > my server architecture. > > > > I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some > > > research and read it cant handle files > 1mb in size. As I need to do > > > some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger > > > ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE. > > > > So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and > > > if so which do people recommend? > > > > I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list! > > > > Cheers, > > > Mike > > > > On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone wrote: > > > > > Mike, > > > > > I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow > > > > almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using > > > > Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers. > > > > But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement > > > > it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If > > > > not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/. > > > > You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :) > > > > > good luck > > > > > On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > > > > > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > > > > > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > > > > > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > > > > > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > > > > > anything has changed. > > > > > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > > > > > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > > > > > exclusively for a new project. > > > > > > So my questions are: > > > > > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > > > > > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > > > > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > > > > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > > > > > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > > > > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Mike- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
Thanks everyone for your excellent tips, ill be sure to digest them all before I make my decision :) Cheers, Mike On Nov 12, 1:51 am, lineman78 wrote: > If your site is big enough to require a dedicated server I recommend > Glassfish, but some projects just aren't big enough and shared Java > hosting is very difficult to come by. Last time I looked for shared > Java hosting some were starting to use Resin due to it's capability of > handling both PHP and Java. GWT is very flexible. If I were to try > and develop a small scale site on shared hosting I would probably use > JSON as the communication protocol and a PHP back end using overlay > objects on the client side for marshaling/unmarshaling. If you plan > on using a dedicated server I would recommend a Glassfish(Java) back > end with either JSON(Jersey) or GWT-RPC as the communication protocol. > > On Nov 9, 6:54 am, "mike.cann" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when > > I make my choice. > > > Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose > > my server architecture. > > > I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some > > research and read it cant handle files > 1mb in size. As I need to do > > some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger > > ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE. > > > So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and > > if so which do people recommend? > > > I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list! > > > Cheers, > > Mike > > > On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow > > > almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using > > > Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers. > > > But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement > > > it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If > > > not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/. > > > You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :) > > > > good luck > > > > On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > > > > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > > > > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > > > > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > > > > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > > > > anything has changed. > > > > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > > > > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > > > > exclusively for a new project. > > > > > So my questions are: > > > > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > > > > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > > > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > > > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > > > > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > > > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
If your site is big enough to require a dedicated server I recommend Glassfish, but some projects just aren't big enough and shared Java hosting is very difficult to come by. Last time I looked for shared Java hosting some were starting to use Resin due to it's capability of handling both PHP and Java. GWT is very flexible. If I were to try and develop a small scale site on shared hosting I would probably use JSON as the communication protocol and a PHP back end using overlay objects on the client side for marshaling/unmarshaling. If you plan on using a dedicated server I would recommend a Glassfish(Java) back end with either JSON(Jersey) or GWT-RPC as the communication protocol. On Nov 9, 6:54 am, "mike.cann" wrote: > Hi Guys, > > Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when > I make my choice. > > Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose > my server architecture. > > I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some > research and read it cant handle files > 1mb in size. As I need to do > some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger > ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE. > > So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and > if so which do people recommend? > > I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list! > > Cheers, > Mike > > On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone wrote: > > > Mike, > > > I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow > > almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using > > Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers. > > But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement > > it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If > > not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/. > > You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :) > > > good luck > > > On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > > > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > > > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > > > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > > > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > > > anything has changed. > > > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > > > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > > > exclusively for a new project. > > > > So my questions are: > > > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > > > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > > > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > > > Cheers, > > > Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
We also decided to build our entire website using GWT (hosted on App Engine). It's early in the development process, but with a good MVP framework and UiBinder it is not that different from building a traditional website but you get a faster, richer and much more interactive experience. Check out the current version: http://hive.arcbees.com/ All the code is open source at: http://code.google.com/p/arcbees-hive/ It's based off many great open-source projects for GWT, including GWTP as our MVP framework: http://gwtplatform.com Cheers, Philippe On Nov 9, 8:01 am, Gal Dolber wrote: > Checkouthttp://code.google.com/p/guit-ajax-crawler/for Ajax crawlability > > On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Nicolas Antoniazzi < > > > > > > > > > > nicolas.antonia...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For our project we use Tomcat / Postgresql on server side. It works great. > > The hardest part is to be able to configure maven (if you use it) with gwt > > + wtp (eclipse tomcat plugin). But with the latest version of all the > > eclipse plugins, it should work fine. > > > Nicolas. > > > 2010/11/9 mike.cann > > > Hi Guys, > > >> Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when > >> I make my choice. > > >> Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose > >> my server architecture. > > >> I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some > >> research and read it cant handle files > 1mb in size. As I need to do > >> some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger > >> ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE. > > >> So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and > >> if so which do people recommend? > > >> I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list! > > >> Cheers, > >> Mike > > >> On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone wrote: > >> > Mike, > > >> > I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow > >> > almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using > >> > Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers. > >> > But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement > >> > it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If > >> > not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/. > >> > You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :) > > >> > good luck > > >> > On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > > >> > > Hi Guys, > > >> > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > >> > > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > >> > > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > >> > > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > >> > > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > >> > > anything has changed. > > >> > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > >> > > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > >> > > exclusively for a new project. > > >> > > So my questions are: > > >> > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > >> > > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > >> > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > >> > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > >> > > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > >> > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > >> > > Cheers, > >> > > Mike > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "Google Web Toolkit" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> cr...@googlegroups.com> > >> . > >> For more options, visit this group at > >>http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > > To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > cr...@googlegroups.com> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > -- > Guit: Elegant, beautiful, modular and *production ready* gwt applications. > > http://code.google.com/p/guit/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
Checkout http://code.google.com/p/guit-ajax-crawler/ for Ajax crawlability On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Nicolas Antoniazzi < nicolas.antonia...@gmail.com> wrote: > For our project we use Tomcat / Postgresql on server side. It works great. > The hardest part is to be able to configure maven (if you use it) with gwt > + wtp (eclipse tomcat plugin). But with the latest version of all the > eclipse plugins, it should work fine. > > Nicolas. > > 2010/11/9 mike.cann > > Hi Guys, >> >> Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when >> I make my choice. >> >> Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose >> my server architecture. >> >> I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some >> research and read it cant handle files > 1mb in size. As I need to do >> some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger >> ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE. >> >> So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and >> if so which do people recommend? >> >> I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list! >> >> Cheers, >> Mike >> >> On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone wrote: >> > Mike, >> > >> > I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow >> > almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using >> > Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers. >> > But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement >> > it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If >> > not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/. >> > You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :) >> > >> > good luck >> > >> > On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hi Guys, >> > >> > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before >> > > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 >> > > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ >> > > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire >> > > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case >> > > anything has changed. >> > >> > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra >> > > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it >> > > exclusively for a new project. >> > >> > > So my questions are: >> > >> > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking >> > > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. >> > >> > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? >> > >> > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or >> > > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? >> > >> > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? >> > >> > > Cheers, >> > > Mike >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Google Web Toolkit" group. >> To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > -- Guit: Elegant, beautiful, modular and *production ready* gwt applications. http://code.google.com/p/guit/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
For our project we use Tomcat / Postgresql on server side. It works great. The hardest part is to be able to configure maven (if you use it) with gwt + wtp (eclipse tomcat plugin). But with the latest version of all the eclipse plugins, it should work fine. Nicolas. 2010/11/9 mike.cann > Hi Guys, > > Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when > I make my choice. > > Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose > my server architecture. > > I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some > research and read it cant handle files > 1mb in size. As I need to do > some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger > ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE. > > So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and > if so which do people recommend? > > I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list! > > Cheers, > Mike > > On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone wrote: > > Mike, > > > > I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow > > almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using > > Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers. > > But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement > > it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If > > not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/. > > You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :) > > > > good luck > > > > On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > > > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > > > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > > > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > > > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > > > anything has changed. > > > > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > > > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > > > exclusively for a new project. > > > > > So my questions are: > > > > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > > > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > > > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > > > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > > > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > > > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > > > > Cheers, > > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
Hi Guys, Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when I make my choice. Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose my server architecture. I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some research and read it cant handle files > 1mb in size. As I need to do some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE. So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and if so which do people recommend? I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list! Cheers, Mike On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone wrote: > Mike, > > I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow > almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using > Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers. > But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement > it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If > not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/. > You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :) > > good luck > > On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > > anything has changed. > > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > > exclusively for a new project. > > > So my questions are: > > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > > Cheers, > > Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
Mike, I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers. But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If not I recommend this approach: http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/ . You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :) good luck On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > Hi Guys, > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > anything has changed. > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > exclusively for a new project. > > So my questions are: > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > Cheers, > Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
In my opinion, a full website can be built with GWT (uiBinder is a great helper for this). This is the way that we chose in our company. it is really fantastic to code with gwt and it allows to use so many optimizations for the client side (client bundle, conditional css, ...). Every pages of the website is behind a code split so it does not overload the inital loading of the gwt client side. For Search engine, we implemented this mechanism : http://code.google.com/intl/fr/web/ajaxcrawling/docs/getting-started.html with htmlunit in the backend.,But it is only compatible with google. We are looking for a better solution to handle this problem for all search engine. Nicolas. 2010/11/8 Jambi > Hej Mike, > > GWT Rocks :D! A lot has changed since 2008. And i mean, A LOT. I know > that there is a way now to allow web crawlers to scan your app but I > don´t know how, since i´ve never used it so far. By default all of the > JS script is loaded at start, but you can use "code split" to split > your JS code where you want. I recommend that you check out the GWT > talks from Google I/O 2010 and 2009. Most of the talks aren´t that > newbie friendly, but you get an idea of the capabilities GWT has. > > On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > > Hi Guys, > > > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > > anything has changed. > > > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > > exclusively for a new project. > > > > So my questions are: > > > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > > > Cheers, > > Mike > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Google Web Toolkit" group. > To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Re: Entire Site in GWT?
Hej Mike, GWT Rocks :D! A lot has changed since 2008. And i mean, A LOT. I know that there is a way now to allow web crawlers to scan your app but I don´t know how, since i´ve never used it so far. By default all of the JS script is loaded at start, but you can use "code split" to split your JS code where you want. I recommend that you check out the GWT talks from Google I/O 2010 and 2009. Most of the talks aren´t that newbie friendly, but you get an idea of the capabilities GWT has. On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, "mike.cann" wrote: > Hi Guys, > > First post on this list. I have searched for this question before > posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 > (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ > thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire > +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case > anything has changed. > > As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra > structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it > exclusively for a new project. > > So my questions are: > > Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking > to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. > > Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? > > Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or > is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? > > Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? > > Cheers, > Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
Entire Site in GWT?
Hi Guys, First post on this list. I have searched for this question before posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008 (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/ thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gst&q=suitable+for+entire +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case anything has changed. As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it exclusively for a new project. So my questions are: Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe. Has the "GWT isnt web-crawlable" issue been solved now? Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)? Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT? Cheers, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Google Web Toolkit" group. To post to this group, send email to google-web-tool...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to google-web-toolkit+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit?hl=en.
