Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-14 Thread RPB
Hi Mike,
I was considering using Flash to build my site (http://
www.yournextpresent.com), but i'm really glad I chose GWT in the end!
I was able to get all the animations I required working using the
GWTFX library (http://code.google.com/p/gwt-fx/) and even got google
crawling my site using the 'Making GWT crawlable' documentation which
has already been linked to.

I have a PHP/MySQL backend and have had no problems communicating with
GWT via REST.

Overall, definitely go for GWT!
-RPB

On Nov 8, 4:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
 posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
 (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
 thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
 +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
 anything has changed.

 As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
 structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
 exclusively for a new project.

 So my questions are:

 Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
 to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.

 Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?

 Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
 is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?

 Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?

 Cheers,
 Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-13 Thread Maxim
Hi Mike,

my two cents. We implemented a product which is entire site itself and
even allows others ( if they download and install it) to build kind of
entire site, limited somehow though. Ref. http://www.projectkaiser.com:8080/pk.
This is a project management and issue tracking solution which can
describe itself.

In connection to  GWT isn't web-crawlable. Well, for this we expose
all our pages in static manner.  Try to google, e.g., for: Project
Kaiser: Manual Installation.
Normally you get the following link:
http://www.projectkaiser.com:8080/pk/ps?f=22609

which is a print-friendly version of
http://www.projectkaiser.com:8080/pk/?fileid=22609

Actually rendering code from client is reused in server.

Maxim

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-12 Thread mike.cann
Thanks everyone for your excellent tips, ill be sure to digest them
all before I make my decision :)

Cheers,
Mike

On Nov 12, 1:51 am, lineman78 linema...@gmail.com wrote:
 If your site is big enough to require a dedicated server I recommend
 Glassfish, but some projects just aren't big enough and shared Java
 hosting is very difficult to come by.  Last time I looked for shared
 Java hosting some were starting to use Resin due to it's capability of
 handling both PHP and Java.  GWT is very flexible.  If I were to try
 and develop a small scale site on shared hosting I would probably use
 JSON as the communication protocol and a PHP back end using overlay
 objects on the client side for marshaling/unmarshaling.  If you plan
 on using a dedicated server I would recommend a Glassfish(Java) back
 end with either JSON(Jersey) or GWT-RPC as the communication protocol.

 On Nov 9, 6:54 am, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:







  Hi Guys,

  Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when
  I make my choice.

  Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose
  my server architecture.

  I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some
  research and read it cant handle files  1mb in size. As I need to do
  some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger
  ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE.

  So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and
  if so which do people recommend?

  I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list!

  Cheers,
  Mike

  On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone farmaz...@gmail.com wrote:

   Mike,

   I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow
   almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using
   Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers.
   But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement
   it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If
   not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/.
   You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :)

   good luck

   On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Guys,

First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
(http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
+site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
anything has changed.

As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
exclusively for a new project.

So my questions are:

Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.

Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?

Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?

Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-12 Thread Pierre
Hi Mike,

We built our entire website using GWT (www.xplana.com) and it's been
really great. Thanks to GWT, you can develop complex ajax application
easily and quickly because everything is done in Java and UiBinder is
really helpful to design your screens.

Following the MVP pattern is definetely the best way to implement a
GWT application (in our case, we used mvp4g, http://code.googlecode.com/p/mvp4g)
and thanks to the code splitting feature, your application loads
faster.

Pierre

On Nov 12, 7:20 am, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks everyone for your excellent tips, ill be sure to digest them
 all before I make my decision :)

 Cheers,
 Mike

 On Nov 12, 1:51 am, lineman78 linema...@gmail.com wrote:



  If your site is big enough to require a dedicated server I recommend
  Glassfish, but some projects just aren't big enough and shared Java
  hosting is very difficult to come by.  Last time I looked for shared
  Java hosting some were starting to use Resin due to it's capability of
  handling both PHP and Java.  GWT is very flexible.  If I were to try
  and develop a small scale site on shared hosting I would probably use
  JSON as the communication protocol and a PHP back end using overlay
  objects on the client side for marshaling/unmarshaling.  If you plan
  on using a dedicated server I would recommend a Glassfish(Java) back
  end with either JSON(Jersey) or GWT-RPC as the communication protocol.

  On Nov 9, 6:54 am, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi Guys,

   Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when
   I make my choice.

   Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose
   my server architecture.

   I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some
   research and read it cant handle files  1mb in size. As I need to do
   some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger
   ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE.

   So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and
   if so which do people recommend?

   I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list!

   Cheers,
   Mike

   On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone farmaz...@gmail.com wrote:

Mike,

I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow
almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using
Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers.
But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement
it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If
not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/.
You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :)

good luck

On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Guys,

 First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
 posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
 (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
 thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
 +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
 anything has changed.

 As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
 structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
 exclusively for a new project.

 So my questions are:

 Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
 to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.

 Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?

 Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
 is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?

 Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?

 Cheers,
 Mike- Hide quoted text -

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-11 Thread lineman78
If your site is big enough to require a dedicated server I recommend
Glassfish, but some projects just aren't big enough and shared Java
hosting is very difficult to come by.  Last time I looked for shared
Java hosting some were starting to use Resin due to it's capability of
handling both PHP and Java.  GWT is very flexible.  If I were to try
and develop a small scale site on shared hosting I would probably use
JSON as the communication protocol and a PHP back end using overlay
objects on the client side for marshaling/unmarshaling.  If you plan
on using a dedicated server I would recommend a Glassfish(Java) back
end with either JSON(Jersey) or GWT-RPC as the communication protocol.

On Nov 9, 6:54 am, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when
 I make my choice.

 Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose
 my server architecture.

 I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some
 research and read it cant handle files  1mb in size. As I need to do
 some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger
 ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE.

 So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and
 if so which do people recommend?

 I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list!

 Cheers,
 Mike

 On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone farmaz...@gmail.com wrote:

  Mike,

  I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow
  almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using
  Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers.
  But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement
  it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If
  not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/.
  You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :)

  good luck

  On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hi Guys,

   First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
   posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
   (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
   thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
   +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
   anything has changed.

   As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
   structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
   exclusively for a new project.

   So my questions are:

   Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
   to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.

   Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?

   Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
   is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?

   Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?

   Cheers,
   Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-10 Thread PhilBeaudoin
We also decided to build our entire website using GWT (hosted on App
Engine). It's early in the development process, but with a good MVP
framework and UiBinder it is not that different from building a
traditional website but you get a faster, richer and much more
interactive experience. Check out the current version:
http://hive.arcbees.com/
All the code is open source at:
http://code.google.com/p/arcbees-hive/
It's based off many great open-source projects for GWT, including GWTP
as our MVP framework:
http://gwtplatform.com

Cheers,

Philippe

On Nov 9, 8:01 am, Gal Dolber gal.dol...@gmail.com wrote:
 Checkouthttp://code.google.com/p/guit-ajax-crawler/for Ajax crawlability

 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Nicolas Antoniazzi 









 nicolas.antonia...@gmail.com wrote:
  For our project we use Tomcat / Postgresql on server side. It works great.
  The hardest part is to be able to configure maven (if you use it) with gwt
  + wtp (eclipse tomcat plugin). But with the latest version of all the
  eclipse plugins, it should work fine.

  Nicolas.

  2010/11/9 mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com

  Hi Guys,

  Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when
  I make my choice.

  Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose
  my server architecture.

  I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some
  research and read it cant handle files  1mb in size. As I need to do
  some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger
  ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE.

  So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and
  if so which do people recommend?

  I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list!

  Cheers,
  Mike

  On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone farmaz...@gmail.com wrote:
   Mike,

   I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow
   almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using
   Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers.
   But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement
   it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If
   not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/.
   You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :)

   good luck

   On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Guys,

First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
(http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
+site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
anything has changed.

As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
exclusively for a new project.

So my questions are:

Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.

Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?

Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?

Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?

Cheers,
Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-09 Thread farmazone
Mike,

I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow
almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using
Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers.
But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement
it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If
not I recommend this approach: http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/ .
You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :)

good luck

On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
 posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
 (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
 thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
 +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
 anything has changed.

 As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
 structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
 exclusively for a new project.

 So my questions are:

 Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
 to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.

 Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?

 Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
 is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?

 Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?

 Cheers,
 Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-09 Thread mike.cann
Hi Guys,

Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when
I make my choice.

Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose
my server architecture.

I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some
research and read it cant handle files  1mb in size. As I need to do
some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger
ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE.

So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and
if so which do people recommend?

I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list!

Cheers,
Mike

On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone farmaz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Mike,

 I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow
 almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using
 Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers.
 But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement
 it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If
 not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/.
 You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :)

 good luck

 On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:







  Hi Guys,

  First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
  posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
  (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
  thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
  +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
  anything has changed.

  As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
  structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
  exclusively for a new project.

  So my questions are:

  Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
  to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.

  Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?

  Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
  is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?

  Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?

  Cheers,
  Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-09 Thread Nicolas Antoniazzi
For our project we use Tomcat / Postgresql on server side. It works great.
The hardest part is to be able to configure maven (if you use it) with gwt +
wtp (eclipse tomcat plugin). But with the latest version of all the eclipse
plugins, it should work fine.

Nicolas.

2010/11/9 mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com

 Hi Guys,

 Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when
 I make my choice.

 Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose
 my server architecture.

 I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some
 research and read it cant handle files  1mb in size. As I need to do
 some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger
 ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE.

 So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and
 if so which do people recommend?

 I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list!

 Cheers,
 Mike

 On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone farmaz...@gmail.com wrote:
  Mike,
 
  I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow
  almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using
  Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers.
  But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement
  it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If
  not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/.
  You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :)
 
  good luck
 
  On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Hi Guys,
 
   First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
   posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
   (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
   thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
   +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
   anything has changed.
 
   As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
   structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
   exclusively for a new project.
 
   So my questions are:
 
   Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
   to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.
 
   Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?
 
   Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
   is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?
 
   Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?
 
   Cheers,
   Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-09 Thread Gal Dolber
Checkout http://code.google.com/p/guit-ajax-crawler/ for Ajax crawlability

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Nicolas Antoniazzi 
nicolas.antonia...@gmail.com wrote:

 For our project we use Tomcat / Postgresql on server side. It works great.
 The hardest part is to be able to configure maven (if you use it) with gwt
 + wtp (eclipse tomcat plugin). But with the latest version of all the
 eclipse plugins, it should work fine.

 Nicolas.

 2010/11/9 mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com

 Hi Guys,

 Thanks for all the tips, im certainty going to take them on board when
 I make my choice.

 Im pretty sure im going to go with GWT now. The next step is to choose
 my server architecture.

 I really would like to have gone with GAE however I have done some
 research and read it cant handle files  1mb in size. As I need to do
 some image manipulation involving merging several 1mb PNGs into larger
 ones I think im going to be stuck if I use GAE.

 So my next question is does GWT play nice with other technologies and
 if so which do people recommend?

 I hope I haven't outstayed my welcome on this list!

 Cheers,
 Mike

 On Nov 9, 8:10 am, farmazone farmaz...@gmail.com wrote:
  Mike,
 
  I am also flash/flex guy. Websites built with GWT can have workflow
  almost the same as those built with flash (especially if you are using
  Flash Builder od FDT). This is a great advantage for AS3 programmers.
  But like flash it is not crawlable by google so you have to implement
  it by yourself. If you are using Tomcat - HtmlUnit is good choice. If
  not I recommend this approach:http://www.asual.com/jquery/address/.
  You should be familiar with SWFAddress so it do you no harm :)
 
  good luck
 
  On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Hi Guys,
 
   First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
   posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
   (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
   thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
   +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
   anything has changed.
 
   As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
   structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
   exclusively for a new project.
 
   So my questions are:
 
   Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
   to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.
 
   Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?
 
   Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
   is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?
 
   Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?
 
   Cheers,
   Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-08 Thread Jambi
Hej Mike,

GWT Rocks :D! A lot has changed since 2008. And i mean, A LOT. I know
that there is a way now to allow web crawlers to scan your app but I
don´t know how, since i´ve never used it so far. By default all of the
JS script is loaded at start, but you can use code split to split
your JS code where you want. I recommend that you check out the GWT
talks from Google I/O 2010 and 2009. Most of the talks aren´t that
newbie friendly, but you get an idea of the capabilities GWT has.

On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
 posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
 (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
 thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
 +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
 anything has changed.

 As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
 structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
 exclusively for a new project.

 So my questions are:

 Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
 to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.

 Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?

 Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
 is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?

 Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?

 Cheers,
 Mike

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Re: Entire Site in GWT?

2010-11-08 Thread Nicolas Antoniazzi
In my opinion, a full website can be built with GWT (uiBinder is a great
helper for this).
This is the way that we chose in our company. it is really fantastic to code
with gwt and it allows to use so many optimizations for the client side
(client bundle, conditional css, ...).
Every pages of the website is behind a code split so it does not overload
the inital loading of the gwt client side.
For Search engine, we implemented this mechanism :
http://code.google.com/intl/fr/web/ajaxcrawling/docs/getting-started.html with
htmlunit in the backend.,But it is only compatible with google.
We are looking for a better solution to handle this problem for all search
engine.

Nicolas.

2010/11/8 Jambi michael.lukaszc...@googlemail.com

 Hej Mike,

 GWT Rocks :D! A lot has changed since 2008. And i mean, A LOT. I know
 that there is a way now to allow web crawlers to scan your app but I
 don´t know how, since i´ve never used it so far. By default all of the
 JS script is loaded at start, but you can use code split to split
 your JS code where you want. I recommend that you check out the GWT
 talks from Google I/O 2010 and 2009. Most of the talks aren´t that
 newbie friendly, but you get an idea of the capabilities GWT has.

 On Nov 8, 5:49 pm, mike.cann mike.c...@gmail.com wrote:
  Hi Guys,
 
  First post on this list. I have searched for this question before
  posting. The only answer I could come up with was from a post in 2008
  (http://groups.google.com/group/google-web-toolkit/browse_thread/
  thread/c852ff3491f4d128/4b1d9c08a91e25ab?lnk=gstq=suitable+for+entire
  +site#4b1d9c08a91e25ab) so I thought I would ask it again in case
  anything has changed.
 
  As a Flash / Flex developer new to web-dev im loving the extra
  structure and type safety offered by GWT so im really keen to use it
  exclusively for a new project.
 
  So my questions are:
 
  Is GWT suitable for writing an entire website? Specifically im looking
  to write a site that may sit within a Facebook iframe.
 
  Has the GWT isnt web-crawlable issue been solved now?
 
  Is the script for every page on your site downloaded at the start or
  is it downloaded as you click a link (as in a traditional site)?
 
  Are there any other barriers to making an entire site in GWT?
 
  Cheers,
  Mike

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