Re: [gwt-contrib] The elusive J2CL

2018-03-09 Thread 'Goktug Gokdogan' via GWT Contributors 
A basic functionality missing in open-source build doesn't mean it is far
away. We were trying to get it ready by this quarter but it didn't work out
as I explained earlier.
For 'pure' J2CL experience, we have chosen bazel. Bazel works/scales pretty
well and same as our internal setup which makes it much easier to maintain
as well. Keep in mind J2CL != GWT 3. A bunch of contributors are already
working on GWT/Maven/Gradle support on top of that so you are not be forced
to use bazel.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:06 PM Slava Pankov  wrote:

> Yes, I agree "even basic missing functionalities" sounds scary. And why
> bazel? It's not even close in popularity with Maven and Gradle.
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 1:52:34 AM UTC-8, Ivan Markov wrote:
>>
>> Goktug, sorry for being a but stubborn here, but we need a tad more
>> visibility:
>>
>> {quote}
>> The main blocker for releasing J2CL for wider audience is even basic
>> missing functionalities around building it in open-source and seeing at
>> least some output for your compilations.
>> {quote}
>>
>> "even basic missing functionalities" sounds quite worrysome. What is the
>> ETA for implementing these and releasing a preview? If e.g. two months,
>> fine. If we are talking Q4/2018 or 2019, then that's a different
>> proposition altogether. I guess, not just for us. Please don't answer with
>> the "it's done when it is done" slogan. :) That's one of the major pains
>> for this community imo.
>>
>> Final Q: are all the legal issues for releasing in the open resolved by
>> now? From personal experience, these might take forever to resolve.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 10:51:21 PM UTC+2, Goktug Gokdogan wrote:
>>>
>>> > There is still tone of work to do for a polished open source
>>> experience but at least we can give access to more people who is really
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> What I meant here; is giving access *after* basic bazel stuff is
>>> finished so there will be something to play with. We don't want to give
>>> access to a broader group for something that is dead on arrival.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:31 AM Alberto Mancini 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hello,
 yes, definitely I would like to be in.
 I am really interested.

 Cheers,
Alberto.


 On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:21 PM Nándor Előd Fekete 
 wrote:

> I am *really* interested. Can you sign me up?
>
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 9:13:01 AM UTC+1, Goktug Gokdogan wrote:
>>
>> The main blocker for releasing J2CL for wider audience is even basic
>> missing functionalities around building it in open-source and seeing at
>> least some output for your compilations. That is blocked on missing
>> functionalities in bazel. After that we can probably finished in more
>> timely manner.
>> There is still tone of work to do for a polished open source
>> experience but at least we can give access to more people who is really
>> interested.
>>
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Re: [gwt-contrib] The elusive J2CL

2018-03-09 Thread Slava Pankov 
Yes, I agree "even basic missing functionalities" sounds scary. And why 
bazel? It's not even close in popularity with Maven and Gradle.

On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 1:52:34 AM UTC-8, Ivan Markov wrote:
>
> Goktug, sorry for being a but stubborn here, but we need a tad more 
> visibility:
>
> {quote}
> The main blocker for releasing J2CL for wider audience is even basic 
> missing functionalities around building it in open-source and seeing at 
> least some output for your compilations.
> {quote}
>
> "even basic missing functionalities" sounds quite worrysome. What is the 
> ETA for implementing these and releasing a preview? If e.g. two months, 
> fine. If we are talking Q4/2018 or 2019, then that's a different 
> proposition altogether. I guess, not just for us. Please don't answer with 
> the "it's done when it is done" slogan. :) That's one of the major pains 
> for this community imo.
>
> Final Q: are all the legal issues for releasing in the open resolved by 
> now? From personal experience, these might take forever to resolve.
>
> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 10:51:21 PM UTC+2, Goktug Gokdogan wrote:
>>
>> > There is still tone of work to do for a polished open source experience 
>> but at least we can give access to more people who is really interested.
>>
>> What I meant here; is giving access *after* basic bazel stuff is finished 
>> so there will be something to play with. We don't want to give access to 
>> a broader group for something that is dead on arrival.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:31 AM Alberto Mancini  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello, 
>>> yes, definitely I would like to be in. 
>>> I am really interested.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>Alberto. 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:21 PM Nándor Előd Fekete  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I am *really* interested. Can you sign me up?


 On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 9:13:01 AM UTC+1, Goktug Gokdogan wrote:
>
> The main blocker for releasing J2CL for wider audience is even basic 
> missing functionalities around building it in open-source and seeing at 
> least some output for your compilations. That is blocked on missing 
> functionalities in bazel. After that we can probably finished in more 
> timely manner.
> There is still tone of work to do for a polished open source 
> experience but at least we can give access to more people who is really 
> interested.
>
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Re: [gwt-contrib] The elusive J2CL

2018-03-09 Thread Ivan Markov 
Goktug, sorry for being a but stubborn here, but we need a tad more 
visibility:

{quote}
The main blocker for releasing J2CL for wider audience is even basic 
missing functionalities around building it in open-source and seeing at 
least some output for your compilations.
{quote}

"even basic missing functionalities" sounds quite worrysome. What is the 
ETA for implementing these and releasing a preview? If e.g. two months, 
fine. If we are talking Q4/2018 or 2019, then that's a different 
proposition altogether. I guess, not just for us. Please don't answer with 
the "it's done when it is done" slogan. :) That's one of the major pains 
for this community imo.

Final Q: are all the legal issues for releasing in the open resolved by 
now? From personal experience, these might take forever to resolve.

On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 10:51:21 PM UTC+2, Goktug Gokdogan wrote:
>
> > There is still tone of work to do for a polished open source experience 
> but at least we can give access to more people who is really interested.
>
> What I meant here; is giving access *after* basic bazel stuff is finished 
> so there will be something to play with. We don't want to give access to 
> a broader group for something that is dead on arrival.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:31 AM Alberto Mancini  > wrote:
>
>> Hello, 
>> yes, definitely I would like to be in. 
>> I am really interested.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>Alberto. 
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:21 PM Nándor Előd Fekete > > wrote:
>>
>>> I am *really* interested. Can you sign me up?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 9:13:01 AM UTC+1, Goktug Gokdogan wrote:

 The main blocker for releasing J2CL for wider audience is even basic 
 missing functionalities around building it in open-source and seeing at 
 least some output for your compilations. That is blocked on missing 
 functionalities in bazel. After that we can probably finished in more 
 timely manner.
 There is still tone of work to do for a polished open source experience 
 but at least we can give access to more people who is really interested.

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