A basic functionality missing in open-source build doesn't mean it is far
away. We were trying to get it ready by this quarter but it didn't work out
as I explained earlier.
For 'pure' J2CL experience, we have chosen bazel. Bazel works/scales pretty
well and same as our internal setup which makes it much easier to maintain
as well. Keep in mind J2CL != GWT 3. A bunch of contributors are already
working on GWT/Maven/Gradle support on top of that so you are not be forced
to use bazel.

On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 12:06 PM Slava Pankov <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, I agree "even basic missing functionalities" sounds scary. And why
> bazel? It's not even close in popularity with Maven and Gradle.
>
> On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 1:52:34 AM UTC-8, Ivan Markov wrote:
>>
>> Goktug, sorry for being a but stubborn here, but we need a tad more
>> visibility:
>>
>> {quote}
>> The main blocker for releasing J2CL for wider audience is even basic
>> missing functionalities around building it in open-source and seeing at
>> least some output for your compilations.
>> {quote}
>>
>> "even basic missing functionalities" sounds quite worrysome. What is the
>> ETA for implementing these and releasing a preview? If e.g. two months,
>> fine. If we are talking Q4/2018 or 2019, then that's a different
>> proposition altogether. I guess, not just for us. Please don't answer with
>> the "it's done when it is done" slogan. :) That's one of the major pains
>> for this community imo.
>>
>> Final Q: are all the legal issues for releasing in the open resolved by
>> now? From personal experience, these might take forever to resolve.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 10:51:21 PM UTC+2, Goktug Gokdogan wrote:
>>>
>>> > There is still tone of work to do for a polished open source
>>> experience but at least we can give access to more people who is really
>>> interested.
>>>
>>> What I meant here; is giving access *after* basic bazel stuff is
>>> finished so there will be something to play with. We don't want to give
>>> access to a broader group for something that is dead on arrival.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 5:31 AM Alberto Mancini <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> yes, definitely I would like to be in.
>>>> I am really interested.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>    Alberto.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 2:21 PM Nándor Előd Fekete <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am *really* interested. Can you sign me up?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, March 8, 2018 at 9:13:01 AM UTC+1, Goktug Gokdogan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The main blocker for releasing J2CL for wider audience is even basic
>>>>>> missing functionalities around building it in open-source and seeing at
>>>>>> least some output for your compilations. That is blocked on missing
>>>>>> functionalities in bazel. After that we can probably finished in more
>>>>>> timely manner.
>>>>>> There is still tone of work to do for a polished open source
>>>>>> experience but at least we can give access to more people who is really
>>>>>> interested.
>>>>>>
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