[gwt-contrib] GWT Steering Committee Changes

2017-02-05 Thread 'Bhaskar Janakiraman' via GWT Contributors
Hi Folks,

As you may know, in our first meeting, we had decided that the GWT Steering
Committee Chair position was to be a rotational responsibility shared by
the SC members. We haven't implemented that for years now, but I'm happy to
announce that starting this year, we are doing this. Colin Alworth has
agreed to be the next GWT SC chair, taking over from me (I was nominally
running this until now).

This is mainly an administrative change, but we also want to follow this up
with more active work from the GWT Steering Committee. We will have more
follow up email in the coming months.

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] GWT Steering Committee Meeting Notes (10/28)

2015-10-30 Thread 'Bhaskar Janakiraman' via GWT Contributors
See:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pcFhOIFCQlgEUDPDa-gLovqCThGMHzgVIxdk96R6Bls/edit?usp=sharing

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[gwt-contrib] Steering Committee Meeting Notes (8/19)

2015-08-21 Thread 'Bhaskar Janakiraman' via GWT Contributors
See:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/14HaNSGd8-_1VOAQIKWGd4lKmcRQLciL2ISPhE18yOQ4/edit?usp=sharing

Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] GWT Meet-up 2015 Videos

2015-06-10 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
For those who missed the G+ post, the talks at the Meet-up are now on the 
GWT YouTube channel, enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1yReUCGwGvrqscLu1EAyYRPrr0ceEHLE

Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] Re: GWT Meetup 2015

2015-05-11 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
So far I have ~16 pre-registrations, including Googlers. This is a bit 
short of what I'd like, but I'll go ahead and plan to hold the event. 

Pre-registered folks, please wait for a confirmation email from me before 
you book your travel. 

I'm going to leave the form accessible since I have a few more spaces to 
fill. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] Re: GWT Meetup 2015

2015-05-08 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
I'm still looking for more people to pre-register, we have a lot more room, 
and space for talks.

The deadline for pre-registration was May 8, but I'm extending it to 10th 
(Sunday). If we don't have enough people, I'll probably cancel or postpone 
to another time. Will let everyone know by Monday for sure.

Bhaskar


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[gwt-contrib] GWT Meetup 2015

2015-05-01 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
We plan to host a GWT Meet-up this year at Google at our Mountain View 
Campus, in the two days prior to Google I/O, May 26  27. Details are in 
the form below. 

Please pre-register by May 8: 
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1DBplKpRmiupLOYFh7tHJy8ypH2_dg7fm1DGO-f7cxYE/viewform?usp=send_form

Note: Attendance is by invitation. If you are not a Steering Committee 
member or maintainer and want to attend, please contact a Steering 
Committee member or maintainer to invite you. 

Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] No contributor hangout this week

2014-05-28 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi,
I'm canceling the contributor hangout for this week since its a 
particularly busy week for me. We can have one next week if there's 
sufficient interest, please reply to this thread.

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] GWT Contributor Meet-up 2014

2014-05-13 Thread 'Bhaskar Janakiraman' via GWT Contributors
Hi Contributors,
We (Google) plan to host a 2-day event at Google, Mountain View, for GWT
contributors, on June 23 and 24, 2014.

We hosted a similar event last year at Google, with many interesting talks,
see:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yAtQQgzROQlist=PL1yReUCGwGvrq1bwn8all71WcvkLQm7ty.
We expect there will be fewer talks and more opportunity to discuss and
write code this year, but details are still to be decided.

Participation is by invitation only since we have a limited number of spots
(40),  but I'd like to open it up for GWT contributors who are interested
in attending.

Please note:
- Pre-registration indicates that you are interested in attending the
event. Invitees will be selected based on the following:
   - Number and extent of contributions to GWT.
   - Whether invited by a Steering Committee member or GWT Maintainer.
   - Talk or workshop proposed, if any.

More details are in the form below. Please complete by May 19 if you want
to participate.

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1SS29F79WOerKS_Hn7Q_ad883g4-jIwUHic9FAEgWANs/viewform


Please don't share the link widely. This is mainly an event for people
contributing to GWT (as opposed to users of GWT).

Thanks,
Bhaskar
(On behalf of the Google GWT team)

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[gwt-contrib] Re: Changes in monthly GWT contributor hangout

2014-04-22 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
I didn't see any further requests for discussion, so I'm canceling this 
month's contributor hangout. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar

On Monday, April 21, 2014 9:47:56 AM UTC-7, Bhaskar Janakiraman wrote:

 James, I don't think anyone has thought much about Java 8 emulation other 
 than Ray, and I'm not sure if he's going to be in the hangout. I'd suggest 
 we have a proposal and/or email discussion on this first.
 Thanks,
 Bhaskar

 On Friday, April 18, 2014 10:41:44 AM UTC-7, James Nelson wrote:

 I will be returning this month, and would like to discuss how best to 
 support java 8 emulation.  Ray had sent a bullet point list of items, like 
 having a separate super source folder for java 8 emulation and building a 
 separate jar with those sources, but I would like to hear what the team 
 finds acceptable before investing time modifying the build.  I can also get 
 in touch with Ivan Markov to see how he is doing with sdbg (I've been out 
 of the loop since working on java 8 and the launch of my own site).



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[gwt-contrib] Re: Changes in monthly GWT contributor hangout

2014-04-21 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
James, I don't think anyone has thought much about Java 8 emulation other 
than Ray, and I'm not sure if he's going to be in the hangout. I'd suggest 
we have a proposal and/or email discussion on this first.
Thanks,
Bhaskar

On Friday, April 18, 2014 10:41:44 AM UTC-7, James Nelson wrote:

 I will be returning this month, and would like to discuss how best to 
 support java 8 emulation.  Ray had sent a bullet point list of items, like 
 having a separate super source folder for java 8 emulation and building a 
 separate jar with those sources, but I would like to hear what the team 
 finds acceptable before investing time modifying the build.  I can also get 
 in touch with Ivan Markov to see how he is doing with sdbg (I've been out 
 of the loop since working on java 8 and the launch of my own site).

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[gwt-contrib] Changes in monthly GWT contributor hangout

2014-04-16 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
We've been having this meeting for several months now, with varying amounts 
of community participation. Rather than force a meeting every month whether 
we have topics or not, we are planning to change the logistics:
1. Send out a reminder one week prior, asking for agenda topics.
2. If you are working on a patch of feature that you would like to discuss 
with other GWT contributors or maintainers at a meeting, please reply to 
the thread with topic and details of what you'd like to discuss.
3. Needless to say, people suggesting topics are expected to show up at the 
meeting :-)

Our next contributor hangout is next Wednesday April 23. So please reply 
with topics you want to discuss by Monday, April 21, so I can arrange 
logistics.


The hope is that we will have more effective and focused meetings. 
Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] Next Contributor Hangout

2014-03-24 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
The next contributor hangout will be on Wednesday, March 26, from 10.45am 
to 11.30am PST. As before, please send me email (bjanakiraman at google) if 
you have something to discuss and want to participate in person, and I'll 
send you an invite. 

Agenda:
GWT 2.6.1: Status and Plans (Thomas, Daniel)
On-going patches  discussion

The session will be recorded and made available via the GWT G+ 
pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/b/116516353752856283537/116516353752856283537/posts
. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] New Maintainers

2014-03-18 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Last week, the GWT Steering Committee accepted two nominations for 
maintainers, welcome Manuel Carrasco Moñino and John Tamplin! 

See document for list of maintainers and areas: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vyncxfuujIJ3L-PBLNM68tfeXRFZ4qDdnWEodblmvRg/edit#heading=h.3v5wd93k00oh

Thanks,
Bhaskar
(on behalf of the GWT Steering Committee)

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[gwt-contrib] Re: Next Contributor Hangout

2014-03-18 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Sorry, missed sharing in G+, video is now available.
Bhaskar

On Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:53:55 AM UTC-7, Ivan Markov wrote:

 Would it be possible to publish the recordings of these meetings in a more 
 timely manner?
 19 days after the (supposedly held?) Feb 26 session there is nothing yet 
 on the GWT G+ page.

 Assuming that these meetings happen on a monthly basis, 19 days of lag 
 looks big :)

 22 февруари 2014, събота, 06:37:46 UTC+2, Bhaskar Janakiraman написа:

 Hi Folks,
 The next contributor hangout will be on Wednesday, February 26, from 
 10.45am to 11.30am PST. As before, please send me email (bjanakiraman at 
 google) if you have something to discuss and want to participate in person, 
 and I'll send you an invite. 

 Agenda:
 Discuss on-going work and patches. 

 The session will be recorded and made available via the GWT G+ 
 pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/b/116516353752856283537/116516353752856283537/posts
 . 

 Thanks,
 Bhaskar



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[gwt-contrib] Next Contributor Hangout

2014-02-21 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
The next contributor hangout will be on Wednesday, February 26, from 
10.45am to 11.30am PST. As before, please send me email (bjanakiraman at 
google) if you have something to discuss and want to participate in person, 
and I'll send you an invite. 

Agenda:
Discuss on-going work and patches. 

The session will be recorded and made available via the GWT G+ 
pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/b/116516353752856283537/116516353752856283537/posts
. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] GWT Patch Review Policy Maintainer list

2014-02-12 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
One of the problems with patch reviews is that we don't have a guideline on 
who reviews patches and how does a patch get final approval. We put 
together a proposal for patch reviews, and a  list of maintainers for GWT. 
At the SC meeting this morning, we decided this makes sense and will be 
moving forward with it. The two relevant documents are here:

Patch Review 
Policy: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1_dBGeyqwMaLVXZ48VkOWz64bdLBdUeQgsvY8PEcXyMU/edit#
Maintainer List: 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vyncxfuujIJ3L-PBLNM68tfeXRFZ4qDdnWEodblmvRg/edit#heading=h.3v5wd93k00oh

We hope this will help streamline GWT contributions and make the process 
more efficient. Over time, we hope this will encourage contributors to take 
ownership and make substantial contributions. 

If you have GWT experience and would like to be a maintainer, please send 
email to one of Steering Committee members. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar
(On behalf of the GWT Steering Committee)


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[gwt-contrib] Re: Next Contributor Hangout

2014-02-11 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Recorded session is now on-line. 
Bhaskar

On Friday, January 24, 2014 11:05:31 PM UTC-8, Bhaskar Janakiraman wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 The next contributor hangout will be on Wednesday, January 29, from 
 10.45am to 11.30am PST. As before, please send me email (bjanakiraman at 
 google) if you have something to discuss and want to participate in person, 
 and I'll send you an invite. 

 Agenda:
 Progress update on features for next GWT release.
 Any patches in progress that needs discussion. 

 The session will be recorded and made available via the GWT G+ 
 pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/b/116516353752856283537/116516353752856283537/posts
 . 

 Thanks,
 Bhaskar


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[gwt-contrib] Re: Next Contributor Hangout

2014-02-04 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 12:11:41 AM UTC-8, Ivan Markov wrote:

 The latest contributor hangout recording posted at the GWT G+ 
 pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/b/116516353752856283537/116516353752856283537/posts
  is more 
 than two months old - November 27, 2013.
 Weren't there any newer sessions in the meantime?


No. We didn't have one in December because we had both GWT.create and the 
December US holidays. This is the January hangout (postponed by a week).

Bhaskar


29 януари 2014, сряда, 02:37:52 UTC+2, Bhaskar Janakiraman написа:

 Hi Folks,
 Sorry about this, but I'm going to have to move this hangout by a week, 
 to Wednesday Feb 5th, same time -  10.45 to 11.30am. We have another 
 internal (Google) meeting that requires me and other GWT team members to be 
 present. 

 The meeting will still be recorded and available as usual. 

 Thanks,
 Bhaskar



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[gwt-contrib] Re: Next Contributor Hangout

2014-01-28 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
Sorry about this, but I'm going to have to move this hangout by a week, to 
Wednesday Feb 5th, same time -  10.45 to 11.30am. We have another internal 
(Google) meeting that requires me and other GWT team members to be present. 

The meeting will still be recorded and available as usual. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] Next Contributor Hangout

2014-01-24 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
The next contributor hangout will be on Wednesday, January 29, from 10.45am 
to 11.30am PST. As before, please send me email (bjanakiraman at google) if 
you have something to discuss and want to participate in person, and I'll 
send you an invite. 

Agenda:
Progress update on features for next GWT release.
Any patches in progress that needs discussion. 

The session will be recorded and made available via the GWT G+ 
pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/b/116516353752856283537/116516353752856283537/posts
. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] Next contributor hangout

2013-11-25 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
The next contributor hangout will be on Wednesday, November 27, from 
10.45am to 11.30am PST. As before, please send me email (bjanakiraman at 
google) if you have something to discuss and want to participate in person, 
and I'll send you an invite. 

Agenda:
GWT 2.6 status.
Patches in flight.

The session will be recorded and made available via the GWT G+ 
pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/b/116516353752856283537/116516353752856283537/posts
. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: Next GWT Contributor Hangout

2013-11-01 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Yes, sorry folks, as Matthew said earlier, we had technical problems with 
getting the video recording to work. Here's notes from the meeting (thanks 
to Brian). We'll do better next time.


   - 
   
   GWT Contributor hangout today (recording didn't work, so we just have 
   notes)
   - 
   
   James Northrup: wants to work on Mavenization; has a Maven project that 
   using GWT 2.5rc1. Using shell scripts to do the conversion.
   - 
  
  Want to be able to compile with just a method even if the rest of the 
  class is invalid. Ray: hard to do this using the JDT since it doesn't 
give 
  us anything back. We would need to investigate JDT's error recovery.
  - 
  
  Talked about Maven versus Gradle.
  - 
   
   Julian Dramaix is working on GSS; work in progress, next step is 
   conditional CSS. Ray: are you using the new syntax allowing you to call 
   functions? Yes. Ray: would be nice to have a conversion script for CSS - 
   GSS. Goktug: we shouldn't support two; too confusing. Brian: but we need a 
   transition.
   - 
   
   Colin: want to get snapshots going. Matthew is on it.
   - 
   
   Daniel and Ray talked about arrays. Ray: for typed arrays, we don't need 
   a type map because we can determine the type just by looking at it. For 
   regular arrays we can't. We should replace GWT.create() stuff with browser 
   checks in ArrayNormalizer. 
   

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[gwt-contrib] Next GWT Contributor Hangout

2013-10-25 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
The next GWT contributors hangout will be on Wednesday, Oct 30, 10.45 - 
11.30am PST. 

We are making a change to the hangout sessions: it will be a regular 
hangout and not a hangout-on-air, but we will record the session and upload 
the video. Reasons for this:
1. Improved audio quality with regular hangout.
2. In the last couple of sessions, we only had 2-3 people who were watching 
it live. 

The video will be accessible from the GWT G+ 
pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/b/116516353752856283537/116516353752856283537/posts
.

As before, if you want to participate in person in the hangout, please send 
me your email address (to: bjanakiraman at google.com)  and I will invite 
you to the hangout (limit of 10 remote participants). 
Agenda:

- GWT 2.6, status, patches in progress
- Update on modular compilation and other on-going efforts. 

Thanks,
Bhaskar

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[gwt-contrib] Next GWT-Contributors Hangout on Air Event

2013-09-20 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
We will have our next GWT-Contributors Hangout on Air next Wednesday. 

When:  Wednesday, September 25, 10.45am - 11.30am PST

Where: GWT G+ Pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/116516353752856283537/videos

Agenda: 2.6 Release, on-going work. 


This is mainly a forum to have a face-to-face discussion of patches, code 
reviews and designs to supplement the discussion in the mailing lists.


If you want to just listen to the broadcast, use the G+ page. If you want 
to participate in the hangout, please send me email (bjanakiraman at 
google) with your name and email so I can add you. Number of participants 
are limited to 10, so we may not be able to accommodate everyone. Priority 
will be to people who have contributed code into GWT. 


This session will be recorded and be made available on the GWT channel. 


Thanks,

Bhaskar Janakiraman

(On behalf of the Google GWT Team)

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[gwt-contrib] Re: GWT-Contributors Hangout on Air Event

2013-08-28 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
On air now, at: https://plus.sandbox.google.com/116516353752856283537/posts

On Friday, August 23, 2013 9:34:49 PM UTC-7, Bhaskar Janakiraman wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 We are scheduling a ‘GWT-contributors hangout on air’ next week, mainly as 
 a forum to have a face-to-face discussion of patches, code reviews and 
 designs to supplement the discussion in the mailing lists. If this proves 
 to be useful, we can schedule sessions more regularly.

 The agenda for the first meeting will be mainly a brief discussion of what 
 people are working on for the next GWT release and the status. Google GWT 
 team members plan to attend this and will talk about what they are working 
 on, and we’ll have a QA session and a general discussion afterwards.

 When:  Wednesday, Aug 28, 10.45am - 11.30am PST

 Where: GWT G+ Pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/116516353752856283537/videos

 If you want to just listen to the broadcast, use the G+ page. If you want 
 to participate in the hangout, please send me email (bjanakiraman at 
 google) with your name and email so I can add you. Number of participants 
 are limited to 10, so we may not be able to accommodate everyone. Priority 
 will be to people who have contributed code into GWT. 

 This session will be recorded and be made available on the GWT channel. 

 Thanks,

 Bhaskar Janakiraman

 (On behalf of the Google GWT Team)



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[gwt-contrib] Re: GWT-Contributors Hangout on Air Event

2013-08-26 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
I haven't got any requests to participate yet. Just to make this clear: if
you want to participate in the QA, you need to send me your name  gmail
address so I can add you to the invite. Otherwise, you can just watch the
event from the G+ page.

Thanks,
Bhaskar


On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Bhaskar Janakiraman 
bjanakira...@google.com wrote:

 Hi Folks,

 We are scheduling a ‘GWT-contributors hangout on air’ next week, mainly as
 a forum to have a face-to-face discussion of patches, code reviews and
 designs to supplement the discussion in the mailing lists. If this proves
 to be useful, we can schedule sessions more regularly.

 The agenda for the first meeting will be mainly a brief discussion of what
 people are working on for the next GWT release and the status. Google GWT
 team members plan to attend this and will talk about what they are working
 on, and we’ll have a QA session and a general discussion afterwards.

 When:  Wednesday, Aug 28, 10.45am - 11.30am PST

 Where: GWT G+ Pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/116516353752856283537/videos

 If you want to just listen to the broadcast, use the G+ page. If you want
 to participate in the hangout, please send me email (bjanakiraman at
 google) with your name and email so I can add you. Number of participants
 are limited to 10, so we may not be able to accommodate everyone. Priority
 will be to people who have contributed code into GWT.

 This session will be recorded and be made available on the GWT channel.

 Thanks,

 Bhaskar Janakiraman

 (On behalf of the Google GWT Team)



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[gwt-contrib] GWT-Contributors Hangout on Air Event

2013-08-23 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman


Hi Folks,

We are scheduling a ‘GWT-contributors hangout on air’ next week, mainly as 
a forum to have a face-to-face discussion of patches, code reviews and 
designs to supplement the discussion in the mailing lists. If this proves 
to be useful, we can schedule sessions more regularly.

The agenda for the first meeting will be mainly a brief discussion of what 
people are working on for the next GWT release and the status. Google GWT 
team members plan to attend this and will talk about what they are working 
on, and we’ll have a QA session and a general discussion afterwards.

When:  Wednesday, Aug 28, 10.45am - 11.30am PST

Where: GWT G+ Pagehttps://plus.google.com/u/1/116516353752856283537/videos

If you want to just listen to the broadcast, use the G+ page. If you want 
to participate in the hangout, please send me email (bjanakiraman at 
google) with your name and email so I can add you. Number of participants 
are limited to 10, so we may not be able to accommodate everyone. Priority 
will be to people who have contributed code into GWT. 

This session will be recorded and be made available on the GWT channel. 

Thanks,

Bhaskar Janakiraman

(On behalf of the Google GWT Team)

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[gwt-contrib] Re: GWT Meet-up 2013 Videos Slides

2013-07-16 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Sorry, these are public now. 

There seems to be a problem with some slide sets (like the compiler deep 
dive), working on it.
Bhaskar

On Monday, July 15, 2013 5:38:00 PM UTC-7, Jim Douglas wrote:

 The folder isn't public (You need permission to access this item.).

 On Monday, July 15, 2013 3:38:42 PM UTC-7, Bhaskar Janakiraman wrote:

 Hi Folks,
 The videos and slides from the GWT Meet-up conference at Google are 
 finally up. I've uploaded them to a newly created GWT Youtube channel:
 http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tATYhfu8iits6FpVAJv5g

 Slides are available in the shared folder: 
 https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B13ku8M7g_aCU1o1bUZRRUtzOTAusp=sharing
 (Not all slides are here yet, but I expect speakers to upload them).

 Thanks to all the speakers for their talks, and all attendees for making 
 this a successful event. 
 Bhaskar



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[gwt-contrib] GWT Meet-up 2013 Videos Slides

2013-07-15 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
The videos and slides from the GWT Meet-up conference at Google are finally 
up. I've uploaded them to a newly created GWT Youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5tATYhfu8iits6FpVAJv5g

Slides are available in the shared folder: 
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B13ku8M7g_aCU1o1bUZRRUtzOTAusp=sharing
(Not all slides are here yet, but I expect speakers to upload them).

Thanks to all the speakers for their talks, and all attendees for making 
this a successful event. 
Bhaskar

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Re: [gwt-contrib] Re: code review policy

2013-06-11 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
It would be good to formalize the process, and appoint 'maintainers' for 
different parts of GWT, who should be people who are knowledgeable, have 
key contributions, and are willing to take on that role. The advantages of 
doing this are:
1. Avoid bike-shedding.
2. Build up specialized knowledge, and
3. Get recognition for key contributors. 

Not having maintainers will cause trouble in the long term. Contributors 
should not fell compelled to respond to every comment if the people most 
experienced in that part of GWT have already given a +2. 

I think we should have a meeting and come up with a short list of people 
that we can nominate and see if they are willing to take on that role. 

Bhaskar



On Monday, June 10, 2013 2:16:22 PM UTC-7, Ray Cromwell wrote:

 I've been giving +2s for stuff I think is ready to commit, but I always 
 assumed that Googlers would have no superpowers here, and that Steering 
 Committee members and other designated people with specialized knowledge 
 could do so as well. Google doesn't automatically import changes without 
 reviewing them, and so our internal heuristic is something like if 
 importing changes from gerrit, if there isn't a +2 from a Google employee, 
 we need to take a deeper look. 

 For example, John giving +2 to I18N or OOPHM changes seems ideal to me. I 
 actually wouldn't feel comfortable giving more than a +1 on I18N unless 
 John was unavailable and it needed to get landed because of a critical 
 issue.



 On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Thomas Broyer t.br...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:


 On Monday, June 10, 2013 5:12:34 AM UTC+2, Stephen Haberman wrote:

 Hey, 

 I wasn't quite sure, so figured I would ask: what's our policy on who 
 can give +2s? Is it any committer?


 Technically, yes: 
 https://gwt-review.googlesource.com/#/admin/projects/gwt,access (if you 
 can see it; restricted access)
 I don't know who exactly is a committer though. Of non-Googlers, at 
 least John (jat) and me.
  

 I assume so, but perhaps out of tradition, I've been assuming Googlers 
 would give +2s. 

 Well, and even if we are/have moved past the Google-only phase of GWT, 
 for now/awhile they will still have the most knowledge about the 
 codebase (perhaps sans Thomas).


 I try to not use +2 too much (or at least not submit reviews) because the 
 CI server currently doesn't run tests against real browsers, and doesn't 
 run tests at all pre submit.
 Maybe we should do something like OpenStack: 
 http://ci.openstack.org/gerrit.html They have a third category 
 Approved in addition to Verified and CodeReview, when set to 
 approved then the CI server is triggered to do a build, and updates the 
 Verified score. This is so that they can control the charge put on their CI 
 server (only code that looks OK is built; but it's not worth scrutinizing 
 the code if it'd break, so they don't wait the CodeReview+2).
 I think we could have our first checkstyle check done automatically for 
 all reviews (like today, when it works ;-) ) but only put Verified-1 if it 
 fails, and trigger a full build with tests only with an Approved+1 (or 
 CodeReview+2 if that's easier to setup). Ideally, the build could just run 
 JVM tests, and we (committers) could trigger browser tests (HtmlUnit only, 
 or in real browsers) if needed.
 But that's not easy to setup (and someone would have to do it), so for 
 now I submit sparingly (unless Googlers tell us to go ahead): for now, 
 tests are run by Google when master is merged on google/pu, and they do 
 reverts when something breaks.
  
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[gwt-contrib] Resolving issues

2013-05-28 Thread Bhaskar Janakiraman
Hi Folks,
Open issues in gwt-steering don't seem to get resolved unless either
there's a SC meeting, or someone send a poll email asking people for their
opinions, which sometimes take too long. I'd like to propose that we make
this a more formal process, so we'll get quicker decisions. Here's my
thoughts on a process:

1. Initiator sends email to gwt-contrib  gwt-steering to get initial
thoughts, asking for responses within a fixed timeframe. For example: I
propose we drop support for IE8 in GWT 3.0, coming around spring 2014.
 The motivation is to get some conversation going, as well as flushing out
some of the questions, for example: does that mean we will continue to
update 2.6 for those who need IE8 support', or 'when does IE8 support start
disappearing from trunk?'.

2. After the specified time period, if there's enough initial support, the
initiator writes up a formal proposal (in Google docs) in a template
similar to:
1. Proposal
2. Motivation
3. Schedule
4. Owner(2)
5. Decision date and checkbox for each SC member to signify position on it
(yes, no, nuetral)

3. The proposal is discussed in the Google doc (open to comments from
everyone, but editable only by the owner).

4. By the decision date, each SC member indicates whether they support the
proposal. If a SC meeting is needed, a meeting is held.

Note: I'm not saying we do this for every CL or change in GWT - that should
be the decision of the committers and reviewers. This is for mainly higher
level (perhaps non-technical) decisions.

Thoughts?
Bhaskar

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