Re: [GRASS-user] GIS Manager, d.vect, and missing labels

2009-01-14 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 14/01/09 02:51, Matt wrote:

I've installed the MS-Windows version 6.3.0 on a Vista machine along
with the NC datafiles.  Page 170 of Neteler and Mitasova gives the
example
d.vect -c census_wake2000 disp=shape,attr attrcol=FIPSSTCO siz=5 lcol=black.

It seems to me there are at least 3 ways to do this, and I can only
get one of them to work.  Any suggestions on why approaches 2 and 3
below don't work (at least for me)?

1) If I click the Add command layer icon of GIS Manager and type the
example, it seems to execute properly.
2) If instead I click the Add vector layer icon of GIS Manager and
try to fill in/select the proper commands, I can't get the labels to
appear.  Major settings are:
   Vector map: census_wake2...@permanent
   Display: Shapes  Points  Lines  Boundaries  Areas


[...]


Why do the labels not appear on the map?


You also have to display centroids as attributes (and thus labels) are 
linked to centroids.




Lastly
3) Typing the example into the bottom window of GIS.m and press ing
the run button, the color map appears in the Map Display 1 window, but
there are no labels,


I find it surprising that you can actually display the map that way. I 
don't think that should be possible.


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Re: [GRASS-user] Why v.extract produces columns of type CHARACTER?

2009-01-14 Thread Glynn Clements

Nikos Alexandris wrote:

  The columns produces by v.extract are of type CHARACTER and v.dissolve
  does not like this. It's an old issue. Can someone explain why it
  becomes CHARACTER since grass' type for strings is varchar?
  
  Regards, Nikos
 
 Sorry, wrong question - false alarm.
 
 Actually, the *real* question I have asked in the past but never really
 got a reply is: why sqlitebrowser reports the columns as varchar
 while db.describe reports (in grass-shell) the same columns to be of
 type CHARACTER?

GRASS' DBMI doesn't distinguish CHARACTER from CHARACTER VARYING (aka
VARCHAR); the constant DB_SQL_TYPE_CHARACTER is used for both
(although there is also DB_SQL_TYPE_TEXT for TEXT).

Also, SQLite doesn't really have column types; it assigns types to
individual values rather than to columns. Columns may have a type of
SQLITE_INTEGER, SQLITE_FLOAT, SQLITE_TEXT, SQLITE_BLOB or SQLITE_NULL,
but it doesn't actually require that the values' types conform to the
type.

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Re: [GRASS-user] Why v.extract produces columns of type CHARACTER?

2009-01-14 Thread maning sambale
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Glynn Clements
gl...@gclements.plus.com wrote:

 Nikos Alexandris wrote:

  The columns produces by v.extract are of type CHARACTER and v.dissolve
  does not like this. It's an old issue. Can someone explain why it
  becomes CHARACTER since grass' type for strings is varchar?
 
  Regards, Nikos

 Sorry, wrong question - false alarm.

 Actually, the *real* question I have asked in the past but never really
 got a reply is: why sqlitebrowser reports the columns as varchar
 while db.describe reports (in grass-shell) the same columns to be of
 type CHARACTER?

 GRASS' DBMI doesn't distinguish CHARACTER from CHARACTER VARYING (aka
 VARCHAR); the constant DB_SQL_TYPE_CHARACTER is used for both
 (although there is also DB_SQL_TYPE_TEXT for TEXT).

 Also, SQLite doesn't really have column types; it assigns types to
 individual values rather than to columns. Columns may have a type of
 SQLITE_INTEGER, SQLITE_FLOAT, SQLITE_TEXT, SQLITE_BLOB or SQLITE_NULL,
 but it doesn't actually require that the values' types conform to the
 type.
A bit off-topic.  Does this mean I can actually edit vector data
attributes as text even if the column is an INTEGER?
I'm using Sqlite database browser for editing.  A bit dangerous for
me.  Any other way to add checks/controls for editing mistakes?


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RE: [GRASS-user] r3.in.ascii - Difficulties understanfing format

2009-01-14 Thread Tom van der Putte
Nikos,

Thanks very much for the 101 on rasters in Grass, helped me out big time. No
worries on the length of the answer, the more the better ;)

Tom

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Subject: Re: [GRASS-user] r3.in.ascii - Difficulties understanfing format

Tom, my apologies for writing something long, and repeat within the text
some times things already mentioned or known. I did so on purpose --
just to practice and see if I understand the concept myself.

Ah, please keep in your posts Cc to the grass-user mailing list. Others
will definitely benefit from our mistakes or the correct examples we
discuss.

On Tue, 2009-01-13 at 15:13 +0100, t...@vdputte.nl wrote:
 Hi Nikos,
 
 Thanks for the quick response!
 So what I gather from your answer is that the region-definitions are
 set seperately (I'm guessing in the mapset?) and that you can only
 display data that falls within the boundaries of this region?

Correct. Just to make the big picture clear:

Location = One coordinate system  Many mapsets with separate region
settings for each.

In addition, an important and very useful characteristic of GRASS'
raster modules (r.*) is that they operate *only* within the defined
region.


 The my problem transforms a bit,in the sense that I want to display a
 3D array/raster. Ultimately, this needs to be georeferenced, but for
 testing purposes I just want to display this raster in Nviz.

 So how can I create a general Mapset in which I can display a 3D
 raster with a resolution of 1 (e.g North-South, E-W and T-B all 3 - 0
 with a raster of 3x3x3)

If you have non-georeferenced spatial data you can create a generic XY
location and set the region to match the extent of your imported (in the
xy location) raster no-matter how big/small it is.

[see [1][2] and search on the mailing list [3] for how to create an xy
location -- it's a standard question when one starts to explore data
with grass]

# set region
g.region rast=YourRaster -p
# or: g.region rast=YourRaster -pa ## read g.region help for more

It should, I think, obtain automatically the required rows  columns
parameters which should correspond to the columns  rows of your raster.
If not just grab the resolution of your raster somehow (e.g. gdalinfo
YourRaster) and set them manually.

I think that south  north should match columns  rows. east  west
are irrelevant and, I think, you can set the latter to 0.

Hmmm... talking about 3D I think the correct term is voxels, and hence
you can set the vertical resolution to 1 as well. But you can experiment
with whatever you think you need...

The important, in order to *see* your data is here the (x=)columns,
(y=)rows and (z=)levels.

Now, the *how* they will appear will be affected by the defined x,y,z
resolution.

Since the units in an XY location are pixels it's correct to set the
resolution to 1.


A few more notes concerning georeferenced maps/locations

While the resolution of the georeferenced map itself is as is (let's say
you have the CORINE land cover of some European country, the raster
version of 250m pixel size), and refers to the units used by the defined
coordinate system, the resolution you define with g.region will affect
the output of most raster processing modules.

# corine_250m
# match region-extent to the corine_250m map
g.region rast=corine_250 res=500 -pa

# produce a 500m corine map
r.mapcalc corine_500m=corine_250m
# so simple ;-)

 I hope you understand my problem. 
 Thanks, Tom
[...]

I hope I helped you with my bla-bla. Cheers, Nikos

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Re: [GRASS-user] Why v.extract produces columns of type CHARACTER?

2009-01-14 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 14/01/09 10:19, maning sambale wrote:

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Glynn Clements
gl...@gclements.plus.com wrote:

Nikos Alexandris wrote:


The columns produces by v.extract are of type CHARACTER and v.dissolve
does not like this. It's an old issue. Can someone explain why it
becomes CHARACTER since grass' type for strings is varchar?

Regards, Nikos

Sorry, wrong question - false alarm.

Actually, the *real* question I have asked in the past but never really
got a reply is: why sqlitebrowser reports the columns as varchar
while db.describe reports (in grass-shell) the same columns to be of
type CHARACTER?

GRASS' DBMI doesn't distinguish CHARACTER from CHARACTER VARYING (aka
VARCHAR); the constant DB_SQL_TYPE_CHARACTER is used for both
(although there is also DB_SQL_TYPE_TEXT for TEXT).

Also, SQLite doesn't really have column types; it assigns types to
individual values rather than to columns. Columns may have a type of
SQLITE_INTEGER, SQLITE_FLOAT, SQLITE_TEXT, SQLITE_BLOB or SQLITE_NULL,


AFAIK, columns can have any type, even ones invented by you. I.e.

create table test (key int, chartest ThisIsMyTextType);

works in sqlite, where works means that sqlite just ignores the column 
type and automatically affects a type amongst the ones listed by Glynn 
to each value.



but it doesn't actually require that the values' types conform to the
type.

A bit off-topic.  Does this mean I can actually edit vector data
attributes as text even if the column is an INTEGER?
I'm using Sqlite database browser for editing.  A bit dangerous for
me.


Yes. I find SQLite a bit dangerous because of that, especially since 
GRASS enforces types.


 Any other way to add checks/controls for editing mistakes?

IMHO, the best way to deal with attributes in GRASS + SQLite is to do it 
via the built-in tools in GRASS, and not via the SQLiteBrowser or other 
tools as this can lead to incompatibilities and confusion. The new wxgui 
has a very nice interface for attribute and table management.


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Re: [GRASS-user] Why v.extract produces columns of type CHARACTER?

2009-01-14 Thread maning sambale
 IMHO, the best way to deal with attributes in GRASS + SQLite is to do it via
 the built-in tools in GRASS, and not via the SQLiteBrowser or other tools as
 this can lead to incompatibilities and confusion. The new wxgui has a very
 nice interface for attribute and table management.

Ahh! Thanks for the tip.  I haven't really used GRASS GUI apart from
the quick d.mon, d.vect, d.rast.
I guess now is the time to tryout wxgui.

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[GRASS-user] DEM export to GeoTiff

2009-01-14 Thread Stefan Mietke
Hello list,I have a problem with exporting a DEM to *tif.In a first step I 
import it via r.in.gdal and in a second step I export it with r.out.gdal and 
the file is not the same anymore. GDAL reduce the file to one pixel but a 
greater storage size.Even the settings (tags) changes total.Here are some 
extracts from gdalinfo:Before:Driver: GTiff/GeoTIFF
Size is 108, 84
Coordinate System is:
PROJCS[WGS 84 / UTM zone 45N,
[...]
Band 1 Block=64x64 Type=UInt16, ColorInterp=Gray
    Computed Min/Max=4349.000,5738.000
[EOF]
After:Driver: GTiff/GeoTIFF
Size is 1, 1
Coordinate System is:
PROJCS[WGS 84 / UTM zone 45N,
[...]
Band 1 Block=1x1 Type=UInt16, ColorInterp=Palette
    Computed Min/Max=0.000,0.000
  NoData Value=-32768
  Metadata:
    COLOR_TABLE_RULES_COUNT=1
    COLOR_TABLE_RULE_RGB_0=4.349000e+03 5.738000e+03 0 0 0 255 255 255
  Color Table (RGB with 65536 entries)
    0: 0,0,0,255
    1: 0,0,0,255[and 65533 more lines ...]

I mean it is a very simple process (import/export) but it don't work on my 
computer satisfactorily. So what I'm doing wrong?Kind regards,Stefan


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Re: [GRASS-user] DEM export to GeoTiff

2009-01-14 Thread Moritz Lennert

On 14/01/09 16:49, Stefan Mietke wrote:

Hello list,

I have a problem with exporting a DEM to *tif.


There's been quite a lot of discussion on the lists concerning 
r.out.gdal to GeoTiffs. See for example [1],[2] and the long thread in 
the relevant track ticket[3]. Several of the issues (notably the color 
table) have been addressed by recent changes which should be in the 6.4 
release candidate. So you might want to try with that.




In a first step I import it via r.in.gdal and in a second step I export 
it with r.out.gdal and the file is not the same anymore. GDAL reduce the 
file to one pixel but a greater storage size..


As mentioned in [1], block size only seems to be relevant for tiles. 
What exactly is the problem ? I mean, except for the fact that the files 
are not identical, what is going wrong for you ?


Moritz


[1] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.gdal.devel/16395
[2] http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gis.grass.user/25084
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Re: [GRASS-user] DEM export to GeoTiff

2009-01-14 Thread Stefan Mietke
Thank you, for your quik response.The problem is, that the data is unusable 
after importing/exporting them ...There is only 1 pixel left of the original 
DEM and all elevation data are missing!


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Re: [GRASS-user] GIS Manager, d.vect, and missing labels

2009-01-14 Thread Kenneth Brookes


I've installed the MS-Windows version 6.3.0 on a Vista machine along
with the NC datafiles.  Page 170 of Neteler and Mitasova gives the
example
d.vect -c census_wake2000 disp=shape,attr attrcol=FIPSSTCO siz=5 lcol=black.

It seems to me there are at least 3 ways to do this, and I can only
get one of them to work.  Any suggestions on why approaches 2 and 3
below don't work (at least for me)?

1) If I click the Add command layer icon of GIS Manager and type the
example, it seems to execute properly.
2) If instead I click the Add vector layer icon of GIS Manager and
try to fill in/select the proper commands, I can't get the labels to
appear.  Major settings are:
   Vector map: census_wake2...@permanent
   Display: Shapes  Points  Lines  Boundaries  Areas
   Point symbols: baskic/circle   Size: 5
   Draw lines: color=black  width=1pixel
   Fill areas= Random colors
   Lable vectors checked, text color=black, text size=5
   Label part to align with vector point: left,   Justification: center
   Layer for labels: 1   Attribute col for labels: FIPSSTCO
Clicking either the Display active layers icon or Redraw all
layers icon draws the colored map, BUT does not draw the labels.
Output in GIS.m is:
   d.vect map=census_wake2...@permanent -c color=0:0:0 lcolor=0:0:0
fcolor=170:170:170 display=shape,attr type=point,line,boundary,area
icon=basic/circle size=5 layer=1 {att=FIPSSTCO} lsize=5 xref=left
yref=center llayer=1

Why do the labels not appear on the map?

Lastly
3) Typing the example into the bottom window of GIS.m and press ing
the run button, the color map appears in the Map Display 1 window, but
there are no labels,

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,
Matt
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Matt

I had the same problem but stumbled upon the centroid solution. Have you had
any problems creating thematic (graduated point, line or colour) layers and
having them draw in the map display? I am also using WinGRASS 6.3 on Vista
and have not been able to make this work properly. The layer simply does not
draw when applying the thematic map layer. Let me know if you have had any
problem with this issue.

Regards,

Kenneth 

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Re: [GRASS-user] GIS Manager, d.vect, and missing labels

2009-01-14 Thread Matt
Thanks - centroids did the trick.

I don't know what else I did to make me think approach 3 worked.  You
of course are correct, it doesn't work.   How do you know which
commands will work from the lower window of GIS.m, and which commands
will not work from that window?


On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:49 AM, Moritz Lennert
mlenn...@club.worldonline.be wrote:
 On 14/01/09 02:51, Matt wrote:

 I've installed the MS-Windows version 6.3.0 on a Vista machine along
 with the NC datafiles.  Page 170 of Neteler and Mitasova gives the
 example
 d.vect -c census_wake2000 disp=shape,attr attrcol=FIPSSTCO siz=5
 lcol=black.

 It seems to me there are at least 3 ways to do this, and I can only
 get one of them to work.  Any suggestions on why approaches 2 and 3
 below don't work (at least for me)?

 1) If I click the Add command layer icon of GIS Manager and type the
 example, it seems to execute properly.
 2) If instead I click the Add vector layer icon of GIS Manager and
 try to fill in/select the proper commands, I can't get the labels to
 appear.  Major settings are:
   Vector map: census_wake2...@permanent
   Display: Shapes  Points  Lines  Boundaries  Areas

 [...]

 Why do the labels not appear on the map?

 You also have to display centroids as attributes (and thus labels) are
 linked to centroids.


 Lastly
 3) Typing the example into the bottom window of GIS.m and press ing
 the run button, the color map appears in the Map Display 1 window, but
 there are no labels,

 I find it surprising that you can actually display the map that way. I don't
 think that should be possible.

 Moritz

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Re: [GRASS-user] A list= option for v.overlay?

2009-01-14 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Thu, 2009-01-15 at 10:16 +1100, Richard Chirgwin wrote:
[...]

Unfortunately, even the following Segfaults.
 
  # step 1: split in separate vector maps all samples, e.g. boxes of
  40.000m x 40.000m
  for x in `v.category box_4 option=print | sort -nu | grep -v
 /`;
  do v.extract in=box_4 list=$x out=box_sample_4_$x; done
 
  # step 2: intersection of each separate box_sample with corine
  for x in `g.mlist type=vect pat=box_sample*`; do v.overlay
 ainput=corine
  binput=$x operator=and out=corine_box_sample_$x; done
 
  The result after several minutes of processing is Segmentation
  fault :-(
 
  So, the only way is to do this job per smaller CORINE-blocks?
 

 Nikos,
 
 You might try inserting a v.build between steps 1 and 2. It will slow
 down the process, but I found in a similar 'bulk overlay' exercise
 that
 this improved the stability of the process.
 
 Richard

Thanks for the extra hint :-)

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Re: [GRASS-user] Buffer overflow v.in.ogr on GRASS 6.4 RC2

2009-01-14 Thread Nikos Alexandris
On Wed, 2009-01-14 at 23:24 +0100, wout bijkerk wrote:
 I just checked something that came to my mind pondering the problem 
 NIkos encountered (see thread Problem importing/viewing a ~160MB
 shapefile):
 
 When I import a polygonshape without making an attribute table (-t 
 option), then the shape gets imported without a problem. But as soon
 as I import the same shape with the default of making the attribute
 table, then v.in.ogr gives a buffer overflow. Which is exactly the
 same problem Nikos had importing a big shape.
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Greetings,
 Wout

Hi Wout!

I want to make clear that the buffer overflow was caused due to the
use of, I suppose, incompatible libraries ([1] taken from [2]). Using a
newer gdal version fixed this.

I never really tried the -t option. But I feel I have to (re-)state
the problem I was facing: the import process was NOT failing, nor
self-killed by the system. It was running and, I guess, it was just
taking *too* long and this is why *I* killed/was killing the process.

I never really let it go as much as possible to see what happens. As
Hamish suggests (first reply on my post back then), it will probably
reach its destination if I'll let it run all the way.

In my case, it is about a coastline dataset with 9764427 vertices.

Kind regards, Nikos


[1] copy-pasted from [2]
---
 
Attemp 1 
 
# using gdal 1.5.3, grass6_devel 
# import shapefile 
v.in.ogr dsn=... out=... 
# buffer overflow error (or segfault --- I can't recall). 


 
Attemp 2 
 
# using gdal-1.6.0beta2, grass6_devel 
# importing the usual way 
v.in.ogr dsn=coastlines.shp out=coastlines_longtime -ew --o
Projection of input dataset and current location appear to match 
Layer: coastlines 
WARNING: Column name changed: 'AREA' - 'area' 
WARNING: Column name changed: 'PERIMETER' - 'perimeter' 
[...]

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Re: [GRASS-user] Display thematic vector map - WinGRASS 6.3 (Vista)

2009-01-14 Thread Matt
Ken,
You are not alone.  I tried the thematic vector example on page 171 of
Neteler  Mitasova and also encountered the You must open a display
monitor message.  I'm running 6.3.0-4 on Vista.
Matt

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Moritz Lennert
mlenn...@club.worldonline.be wrote:
 On 06/01/09 17:51, Michael Barton wrote:

 Thanks for the correction. WinGRASS supports PNG output, not a monitor.
 d.vect.thematic was rewritten to use direct rendering through PNG, so it
 should work on Windows.

 This was done in 6.4, so it is not available in winGRASS, yet, which is
 based on 6.3. Just replacing the script doesn't work, either as it use the
 fs= parameter of v.db.connect which wasn't introduced until 6.4.

 So, another strident call for the a 6.4 winGRASS.

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Re: [GRASS-user] GIS Manager, d.vect, and missing labels

2009-01-14 Thread Glynn Clements

Matt wrote:

  3) Typing the example into the bottom window of GIS.m and press ing
  the run button, the color map appears in the Map Display 1 window, but
  there are no labels,
 
  I find it surprising that you can actually display the map that way. I don't
  think that should be possible.
 
 I don't know what else I did to make me think approach 3 worked.  You
 of course are correct, it doesn't work.   How do you know which
 commands will work from the lower window of GIS.m, and which commands
 will not work from that window?

Display (d.*) commands will work insofar as they will generate an
image file, but they won't cause the resulting image to be displayed
in the GUI.

However, as you can't set environment variables from the command
window, you won't be able to control where the image file is created,
its format, size, etc.

If you want to view the output from a specific display command in the
GUI, create a command layer (the gear icon).

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Re: [GRASS-user] Display thematic vector map - WinGRASS 6.3 (Vista)

2009-01-14 Thread Michael Barton
I'm pretty sure that this is a Vista issue, though one that has been  
solved in 6.4.


Michael

On Jan 14, 2009, at 7:33 PM, Matt wrote:


Ken,
You are not alone.  I tried the thematic vector example on page 171 of
Neteler  Mitasova and also encountered the You must open a display
monitor message.  I'm running 6.3.0-4 on Vista.
Matt

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Moritz Lennert
mlenn...@club.worldonline.be wrote:

On 06/01/09 17:51, Michael Barton wrote:


Thanks for the correction. WinGRASS supports PNG output, not a  
monitor.
d.vect.thematic was rewritten to use direct rendering through PNG,  
so it

should work on Windows.


This was done in 6.4, so it is not available in winGRASS, yet,  
which is
based on 6.3. Just replacing the script doesn't work, either as it  
use the

fs= parameter of v.db.connect which wasn't introduced until 6.4.

So, another strident call for the a 6.4 winGRASS.

Moritz
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