[gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dear All users,

I have encounter this error:

-
Fatal error:
No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
--

I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
ewald method because

my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
suggestions?



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Re: [gmx-users] Confusion about itp file generated by topolbuild

2014-06-04 Thread Bikramjit Sharma
Thanks for your reply Justin, but my confusion in the first part is not being 
removed. If  #define is outdated  then is it that gromacs does not even 
consider those lines? Then how does gromacs use those force fields during 
grompp? 

Also, if somehow gormacs considers those force fields then where is the 
location of them. There is no force field with such names   in the working 
directory, neither in topolbuild directory nor in gromacs top directory .  

Regards


On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:05 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:
 




On 6/3/14, 6:51 AM, Bikramjit Sharma wrote:
 Hi all,
 I tried to generate topology file for benzene (as a trial)  using 
 topolbuild1_3. The itp file generated is (ffben.itp in my case)


 #define _FF_GAFF

 #define _FF_AMBER
 #define _FF_USER


 [ defaults ]
 ;nbfunc     comb-rule      gen-pairs     fudgeLJ      fudgeQQ
    1               2               yes             0.5     0.8333


 #include ffbennb.itp
 #include ffusernb.itp

 What is the meaning of first 3 lines? Because there is no force field with 
 any of these names (appeared in those lines) in the working directory and we 
 are not assigning any path. So I am confused.


Those #define statements are somewhat outdated; I don't think Gromacs uses them 
in any way.  They used to be needed in old versions, but not any more.



 Also, following suggestions from gromacs user list 
 (https://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg12722.html), I have 
 commented the last two lines of this itp file. So, the non bonded parameter 
 file generated by topolbuild is not used.  Is it correct?


That depends on whether or not those files introduce any new parameters that 
your molecule needs.  If they do, commenting them out isn't correct.  If they 
only contain duplicate information already present in the parent force field, 
commenting them out is fine.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] g_membed itp file

2014-06-04 Thread h . alizadeh

Dear GROMACS users,
I'm a new GROMACS user and I would like to apologize for my basic question.
I want to use g_membed to insert protein in membrane according to Wolf's
paper manual. I have the pdb, mdp and top files in my directory, but when I
enter the command

grompp -f sample.mdp -c merged.gro -p merged.top -o input.tpr

I face with this fatal error:
Fatal error:
Topology include file ffoplsaalipid.itp not found

Now I want to know how can I create this itp file?
Best wishes,


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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

Mark


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear All users,

 I have encounter this error:

 -
 Fatal error:
 No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
 --

 I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
 ewald method because

 my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
 suggestions?



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[gmx-users] g_membed itp file

2014-06-04 Thread h . alizadeh
Dear GROMACS users,
I'm a new GROMACS user and I would like to apologize for my basic question.
I want to use g_membed to insert protein in membrane according to Wolf's
paper manual. I have the pdb, mdp and top files in my directory, but when I
enter the command

grompp -f sample.mdp -c merged.gro -p merged.top -o input.tpr

I face with this fatal error:
Fatal error:
Topology include file ffoplsaalipid.itp not found

Now I want to know how can I create this itp file?
Best wishes,


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Re: [gmx-users] Remove rotation around the center of mass

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 1:01 AM, gmail wenjin.brooks...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear gmx-users,

 I have some questions on the way that gromacs remove the rotation around
 the center of mass when set comm-mode = Angular”

 I have checked the related code for removing the rotation and have a
 question on how gromacs estimate the inertia tensor I.

 In gromacs, the inertia tensor is estimated as follows,

 I=sum m_i*[x_i*x_i]-M*[x_c*x_c]

 here, m_i is the mass of atom i;
   x_i is the Cartesian coordinate of atom i;
   x_c is the center of mass;
   M is the total mass of the system.
   [x*x] represents the outer product between x and x.

 One can easily get that

 I=sum m_i*[y_i*y_i]  with y_i = x_i - x_c ———(1)

 However, from standard mechanics textbook, the inertia is given as

 I=sum m_i*{(y_i.y_i)E - [y_i*y_i]}    (2)

 here,  y_i.y_i is the inner product between y_i and y_i;
   E is a 3*3 identity matrix.

 I want to know the reason that gromacs use Eq. (1) instead of Eq. (2) to
 calculate the inertia tensor.


Without having looked at the code, I imagine GROMACS would calculate the
moment of inertia about the specified center, rather than bothering with
computing the tensor. Eq (2) is expressed in coordinates relative to an
arbitrary origin, to what does it reduce if you choose the COM as the
origin?

Mark

Since gromacs estimate the angular velocity (w) with

 w=I^-1*L
 Here, I^-1 is the inverse of the inertia tensor I;
   L is the angular momentum.

 The angular velocity will be different using Eq. (1) comparing to Eq. (2)

 Does anyone know why gromacs use Eq. (1) not Eq. (2)?

 Thanks,
 Wenjin


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[gmx-users] No such moleculetype ZN

2014-06-04 Thread elham tazikeh
Dear Justin/ *Dhanachandra *
*thanks for your reply*

*as you konw, i simulated Zinc cation on hGH protein*
*and received  an error in energy minimization  process in em.tpr
production(*grompp -f em.mdp -c sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -o em.tpr)*, as
below:*

*No such moleculetype ZN*

*in one hand, i checked my ions.itp file and saw there is no ZN ion in it,
but atp file in my choosed force field (opls) support ZN ion same CU ion
(about CU cation, i had not any problem)*

*on the other hand, by genion command, i could replace ZN ions instead of
sol (water) molecules, easily*

*i don,t know it,s related to my version pf gromacs 4.6.5 or not?*

*Regards*
*elham tazikeh*
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[gmx-users] Error in mdrun

2014-06-04 Thread Harshkumar Singh
I have been doing simulation of 216 SPC molecules with cubic box dimension
3 nm.I have set the cut off at 1.2 nm but I get this error during mdrun

one of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off or
box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off error

The box vector is greater than double than twice the cut-off but I don't
seem to understand the other possible errors.How can I resolve them?
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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dear Mark,

Thank you for your reply.

When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME to

ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it
means the problem is related to

choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic
potential energy. What's your point on it?


-

Mark wrote:

Hi,

What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

Mark


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at
gmail.com https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
wrote:

* Dear All users,
** I have encounter this error:
** -
** Fatal error:
** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
** --
** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
** ewald method because
** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
** suggestions?
** --
** Sincerely
** Ali Alizadeh
** --*


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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Ali Alizadeh
I performed an NVT simulation.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Mark,

 Thank you for your reply.

 When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME to

 ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it means 
 the problem is related to

 choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic potential 
 energy. What's your point on it?


 -

 Mark wrote:

 Hi,

 What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
 settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at 
 gmail.com 
 https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
 wrote:

 * Dear All users,
 *
 * I have encounter this error:
 ** -
 ** Fatal error:
 ** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
 ** --
 ** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
 ** ewald method because
 ** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
 ** suggestions?
 ** --
 ** Sincerely
 ** Ali Alizadeh
 *
 * --*


 --
 Sincerely

 Ali Alizadeh




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Re: [gmx-users] Error in mdrun

2014-06-04 Thread Praveen Kumar
Harshkumar,

If you are using NPT ensamble, volume will not fix. After some time as box
length decrease than cut-off, you will get such type of error. You can
increase number of water molecules or decrease cut-off.


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Harshkumar Singh harshsingh2...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I have been doing simulation of 216 SPC molecules with cubic box dimension
 3 nm.I have set the cut off at 1.2 nm but I get this error during mdrun

 one of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off or
 box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off error

 The box vector is greater than double than twice the cut-off but I don't
 seem to understand the other possible errors.How can I resolve them?
 --
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 2nd Year Integrated MSc Chemistry
 IIT Bombay.
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Re: [gmx-users] Error in mdrun

2014-06-04 Thread Harshkumar Singh
Ok.Thanks!


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:47 AM, Praveen Kumar pravink...@gmail.com wrote:

 Harshkumar,

 If you are using NPT ensamble, volume will not fix. After some time as box
 length decrease than cut-off, you will get such type of error. You can
 increase number of water molecules or decrease cut-off.


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Harshkumar Singh harshsingh2...@gmail.com
 
 wrote:

  I have been doing simulation of 216 SPC molecules with cubic box
 dimension
  3 nm.I have set the cut off at 1.2 nm but I get this error during mdrun
 
  one of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off or
  box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off error
 
  The box vector is greater than double than twice the cut-off but I don't
  seem to understand the other possible errors.How can I resolve them?
  --
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  2nd Year Integrated MSc Chemistry
  IIT Bombay.
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Re: [gmx-users] Non-bonded interactions

2014-06-04 Thread 라지브간디

Dear justin,

Shall I introduce this calculated non-bonded interaction values in 
gromos43a1.ff ( ffninbonded.itp) section or 

specifically I can include them in my protein topology file ? ([nonbond_param]) 
?



On 6/3/14, 4:56 AM, ? wrote: 
 Dear Justin, 
 
 
 I have calculated upon the way you provided as follows : 
 
 
 CHARMM Rmin/2 - Gromacs sigma: 
 multiply by 2 to get Rmin, convert to sigma by 
 
 multiplying by 2^(-1/6), then multiply by 0.1 to convert A - nm 
 
 
 Sigma = 3.83 
 Rmin = (3.83 * 2) 
 
 
 7.66 * 2^(-1/6)*0.1 = 0.682428418 
 
 
 Epsilon: multiply the CHARMM value by 4.184 to convert kcal/mol to kJ/mol 
 
 
 Epsilon 0.0262 x 4.184 = 0.1096208 
 
 
 Is that right conversion?, if so, I have used g_sigeps utility in gromacs for 
 above mentioned sigma and epsion values and got entirely different values: 
 
 
 g_sigeps -sig 3.83 -eps 0.0262 
 
 
 c6 = 3.30791e+02, c12 = 1.04411e+06 
 sigma = 3.83000, epsilon = 0.02620 
 Van der Waals minimum at 4.29903, V = -0.0262 
 
 
 Fit of Lennard Jones (12-6) to Buckingham: 
 
 A = 4264.18, B = 2.79133, C = 330.791 
 
 
 Please advice if i am making any mistake ? 
 

You're not supplying the right values to g_sigeps. It's designed to convert 
known values of sigma and epsilon (already in Gromacs units) to C6/C12, which 
is 
not what you need to accomplish. The value you're passing to -sig is actually 
Rmin, not sigma, and the value you're supplying to -eps is in the wrong units. 

The converted values you obtained with by-hand calculation (not g_sigeps) 
appear 
reasonable. Verifying the energy reported by CHARMM/NAMD and Gromacs should be 
a simple test to confirm. 

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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Dear Mark,

 Thank you for your reply.

 When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME to

 ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it means 
 the problem is related to

 choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic potential 
 energy. What's your point on it?


My point is that a flawed model physics, or a flawed system preparation,
can get lucky and run stably, or not. On the information given, there is no
reason to suppose that changing the kind of reciprocal-space approximation
is relevant. Last time I heard a report like this, the person had changed
various nonbonded settings to make things run faster, and in so doing
produced a junk model physics.

Mark


 -

 Mark wrote:

 Hi,

 What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
 settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at 
 gmail.com 
 https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
 wrote:

 * Dear All users,
 *
 * I have encounter this error:
 ** -
 ** Fatal error:
 ** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
 ** --
 ** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I should use
 ** ewald method because
 ** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are there any
 ** suggestions?
 ** --
 ** Sincerely
 ** Ali Alizadeh
 ** --*


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Re: [gmx-users] No such moleculetype ZN

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
Hi,

It's hard to understand what you're doing, but take care to distinguish
atom name, residue name, and moleculetype name, which can all be different
depending on the GROMACS version and force field.

Mark


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 10:50 AM, elham tazikeh elham.tazi...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Justin/ *Dhanachandra *
 *thanks for your reply*

 *as you konw, i simulated Zinc cation on hGH protein*
 *and received  an error in energy minimization  process in em.tpr
 production(*grompp -f em.mdp -c sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -o em.tpr)*, as
 below:*

 *No such moleculetype ZN*

 *in one hand, i checked my ions.itp file and saw there is no ZN ion in it,
 but atp file in my choosed force field (opls) support ZN ion same CU ion
 (about CU cation, i had not any problem)*

 *on the other hand, by genion command, i could replace ZN ions instead of
 sol (water) molecules, easily*

 *i don,t know it,s related to my version pf gromacs 4.6.5 or not?*

 *Regards*
 *elham tazikeh*
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Re: [gmx-users] Non-bonded interactions

2014-06-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/4/14, 7:27 AM, 라지브간디 wrote:


Dear justin,

Shall I introduce this calculated non-bonded interaction values in 
gromos43a1.ff ( ffninbonded.itp) section or

specifically I can include them in my protein topology file ? ([nonbond_param]) 
?



Neither.  I have said it twice before, and I'll say it a third time - the 
parameters you have cannot be sensibly combined with others in the Gromos96 43A1 
parameter set.  They were developed for CHARMM; they need to be used with a 
CHARMM force field.  Hacking them into some other force field breaks the 
internal self-consistency of the force field and you end up with a junk simulation.


The proper approach is to introduce the parameters in [atomtypes] of 
ffnonbonded.itp in the CHARMM force field and let the combination rules do the 
rest of the work.


-Justin




On 6/3/14, 4:56 AM, ? wrote:

Dear Justin,


I have calculated upon the way you provided as follows :


CHARMM Rmin/2 - Gromacs sigma:
multiply by 2 to get Rmin, convert to sigma by

multiplying by 2^(-1/6), then multiply by 0.1 to convert A - nm


Sigma = 3.83
Rmin = (3.83 * 2)


7.66 * 2^(-1/6)*0.1 = 0.682428418


Epsilon: multiply the CHARMM value by 4.184 to convert kcal/mol to kJ/mol


Epsilon 0.0262 x 4.184 = 0.1096208


Is that right conversion?, if so, I have used g_sigeps utility in gromacs for 
above mentioned sigma and epsion values and got entirely different values:


g_sigeps -sig 3.83 -eps 0.0262


c6 = 3.30791e+02, c12 = 1.04411e+06
sigma = 3.83000, epsilon = 0.02620
Van der Waals minimum at 4.29903, V = -0.0262


Fit of Lennard Jones (12-6) to Buckingham:

A = 4264.18, B = 2.79133, C = 330.791


Please advice if i am making any mistake ?



You're not supplying the right values to g_sigeps. It's designed to convert
known values of sigma and epsilon (already in Gromacs units) to C6/C12, which is
not what you need to accomplish. The value you're passing to -sig is actually
Rmin, not sigma, and the value you're supplying to -eps is in the wrong units.

The converted values you obtained with by-hand calculation (not g_sigeps) appear
reasonable. Verifying the energy reported by CHARMM/NAMD and Gromacs should be
a simple test to confirm.

-Justin



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Re: [gmx-users] Error in mdrun

2014-06-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/4/14, 6:47 AM, Praveen Kumar wrote:

Harshkumar,

If you are using NPT ensamble, volume will not fix. After some time as box
length decrease than cut-off, you will get such type of error. You can
increase number of water molecules or decrease cut-off.



Decreasing the cutoff may work to get rid of the error, but there can be 
consequences in the validity of the physics if you make ad hoc changes just to 
get the simulation to run, or run faster...


-Justin



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wrote:


I have been doing simulation of 216 SPC molecules with cubic box dimension
3 nm.I have set the cut off at 1.2 nm but I get this error during mdrun

one of the box vectors has become shorter than twice the cut-off or
box_yy-|box_zy| or box_zz has become smaller than the cut-off error

The box vector is greater than double than twice the cut-off but I don't
seem to understand the other possible errors.How can I resolve them?
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Re: [gmx-users] No such moleculetype ZN

2014-06-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/4/14, 4:50 AM, elham tazikeh wrote:

Dear Justin/ *Dhanachandra *
*thanks for your reply*

*as you konw, i simulated Zinc cation on hGH protein*
*and received  an error in energy minimization  process in em.tpr
production(*grompp -f em.mdp -c sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -o em.tpr)*, as
below:*

*No such moleculetype ZN*

*in one hand, i checked my ions.itp file and saw there is no ZN ion in it,
but atp file in my choosed force field (opls) support ZN ion same CU ion
(about CU cation, i had not any problem)*

*on the other hand, by genion command, i could replace ZN ions instead of
sol (water) molecules, easily*

*i don,t know it,s related to my version pf gromacs 4.6.5 or not?*



If the force field has parameters for ZN, then simply add the appropriate 
[moleculetype] to ions.itp.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] g_membed itp file

2014-06-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/4/14, 4:06 AM, h.aliza...@znu.ac.ir wrote:

Dear GROMACS users,
I'm a new GROMACS user and I would like to apologize for my basic question.
I want to use g_membed to insert protein in membrane according to Wolf's
paper manual. I have the pdb, mdp and top files in my directory, but when I
enter the command

grompp -f sample.mdp -c merged.gro -p merged.top -o input.tpr

I face with this fatal error:
Fatal error:
Topology include file ffoplsaalipid.itp not found

Now I want to know how can I create this itp file?


How did you generate the .top file that includes this .itp file?  It looks like 
it relies on some modified version of the OPLS-AA force field, with added lipid 
parameters.  That's not going to be standard in Gromacs, so it's likely 
dependent upon some external source.  Given the naming convention of the file, 
it was probably designed for some old version of Gromacs, but can certainly be 
made to work if you actually obtain the necessary force field files.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Confusion about itp file generated by topolbuild

2014-06-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/4/14, 2:25 AM, Bikramjit Sharma wrote:

Thanks for your reply Justin, but my confusion in the first part is not being
removed. If  #define is outdated  then is it that gromacs does not even consider
those lines? Then how does gromacs use those force fields during grompp?



As Mark pointed out, depending on which version of Gromacs you are using, grompp 
may need those directives to parse ions.itp or water topologies.  In the 5.0 
series, such #define statements are largely irrelevant.



Also, if somehow gormacs considers those force fields then where is the location
of them. There is no force field with such names   in the working directory,
neither in topolbuild directory nor in gromacs top directory .



I have no idea what topolbuild expects or provides.  It likely should have 
generated the nonstandard parameters and written them somewhere.


-Justin


Regards


On Tuesday, June 3, 2014 6:05 PM, Justin Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:




On 6/3/14, 6:51 AM, Bikramjit Sharma wrote:
  Hi all,
  I tried to generate topology file for benzene (as a trial)  using
topolbuild1_3. The itp file generated is (ffben.itp in my case)
 
 
  #define _FF_GAFF
 
  #define _FF_AMBER
  #define _FF_USER
 
 
  [ defaults ]
  ;nbfunccomb-rule  gen-pairsfudgeLJ  fudgeQQ
 1  2  yes0.50.8333
 
 
  #include ffbennb.itp
  #include ffusernb.itp
 
  What is the meaning of first 3 lines? Because there is no force field with
any of these names (appeared in those lines) in the working directory and we are
not assigning any path. So I am confused.
 

Those #define statements are somewhat outdated; I don't think Gromacs uses them
in any way.  They used to be needed in old versions, but not any more.


 
  Also, following suggestions from gromacs user list
(https://www.mail-archive.com/gmx-users@gromacs.org/msg12722.html), I have
commented the last two lines of this itp file. So, the non bonded parameter file
generated by topolbuild is not used.  Is it correct?

 

That depends on whether or not those files introduce any new parameters that
your molecule needs.  If they do, commenting them out isn't correct.  If they
only contain duplicate information already present in the parent force field,
commenting them out is fine.

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] No such moleculetype for ZN

2014-06-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/4/14, 12:48 PM, elham tazikeh wrote:

Dear Justin
Thanks for your answer.
Based on your answer, I will add following lines to ions.itp file in opls
force field:

[ moleculetype ];
molnamenrexcl
ZN   1
  [ atoms ];
idat typeres nr residu nameat name  cg nrcharge   mass

 1Zn2+ 1ZN   ZN
1   2 65.37000

Is my manner true?!



Well, there's one way to find out...

I don't have Zn parameters in my version of OPLS-AA; have you added them 
yourself?

-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Ali Alizadeh
Dear Justin,

here is my mdp file:

title = Liquid CO2 NVT
; Run parameters
integrator = md-vv
nsteps = 200
dt = 0.001
emtol = 1.0
emstep  = 0.0001
; Output control
nstxout = 1000
nstvout = 1000
nstenergy = 1000
nstlog = 100
; Bond parameters
continuation = no
constraint_algorithm = lincs
constraints = all-bonds

; Neighborsearching
ns_type = grid
nstlist = 5
rlist = 1.25
rcoulomb = 1.25
rvdw = 1.25
; Electrostatics
coulombtype = ewald
fourierspacing = 0.6
; Temperature coupling is on
tcoupl = nose-hoover
tc-grps = system
tau_t = 0.1
ref_t = 300
; Pressure coupling is off
pcoupl = no
; Periodic boundary conditions
pbc = xyz ; 3-D PBC
; Dispersion correction
DispCorr = EnerPres
; Velocity generation
gen_vel = yes
gen_temp = 300
gen_seed = -1




On 6/4/14, 8:29 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:
 Dear Mark,

 In my first simulation we had these lines:

 ; Electrostatics
 coulombtype= PME; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
 electrostatics
 pme_order= 4; cubic interpolation
 fourierspacing= 0.12; grid spacing for FFT

 ---

 ; Electrostatics
 coulombtype= ewald; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
 electrostatics
 fourierspacing= 0.6; grid spacing for FFT

 -

 My system in 2nd case is equilibrated.


For anyone to make sense of what you're doing, you'll need to provide
complete
.mdp files (those settings are not the only determining factors of the
validity
of the model physics) and evidence of what you're deciding is equilibrated,
stable, etc (i.e. real numbers and output from whatever relevant analysis).

-Justin

 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
 wrote:




 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ali Alizadeh 
 ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Mark,

 Thank you for your reply.

 When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME
to

 ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it
means the problem is related to

 choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic
potential energy. What's your point on it?


 My point is that a flawed model physics, or a flawed system preparation,
 can get lucky and run stably, or not. On the information given, there is
no
 reason to suppose that changing the kind of reciprocal-space
approximation
 is relevant. Last time I heard a report like this, the person had changed
 various nonbonded settings to make things run faster, and in so doing
 produced a junk model physics.

 Mark


 -

 Mark wrote:

 Hi,

 What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
 settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?

 Mark


 On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at
gmail.com 
https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
 wrote:

 * Dear All users,
 *
 * I have encounter this error:
 ** -
 ** Fatal error:
 ** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
 ** --
 ** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I
should use
 ** ewald method because
 ** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are
there any
 ** suggestions?
 ** --
 ** Sincerely
 ** Ali Alizadeh
 ** --*


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[gmx-users] No such moleculetype ZN

2014-06-04 Thread elham tazikeh
Dear Justin

Please ignore my previous questions.

I want to do 2 md simulations: 1) protein and Cu, 2) protein and Zn.
After checking

force fields in gromacs 4.5.3, I found oplsaa in which there are both
Cu and Zn ions

in atomtype.atp file. Then I used gromacs 4.6.5 (with opls force
field) to do md

simulations. I added ions to my system using genion command.


genion -s ions.tpr -o sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -pname CU -pq +2
-neutral -conc 0.025.

genion -s ions.tpr -o sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -pname ZN -pq +2
-neutral -conc 0.025.

In both cases, ions were added without problem. Then, I used

grompp -f em.mdp -c sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -o em.tpr

In case of protein and Cu, there is not problem. But, in case of protein
and Zn,

I encountered error: No such moleculetype ZN.

I checked ions.itp in opls force field in gromacs 4.6.5, I found, there are both

Cu and Zn ions in atomtype.atp file. But, there is only Cu in ions.itp file.

How to do md simulation of protein-zn system using gromacs 4.6.5.


Any help will highly appreciated.
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Re: [gmx-users] Intra molecular force correction for SPME

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Sumith YD ydsum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear gromacs community,

 How does the gromacs calculate Intra molecular force correction (To correct
 the unwanted intra molecular force in Fourier space especially for rigid
 molecules)? I couldn't find that information listed anywhere in the manual.
 I could find some details from Publications by Thierry Matthey- PhD
 thesis.


Where is that?

But I couldn't find gromacs citing it and hence just curious to
 know is there any other reference which gromacs uses?
 I am also having a hard time to locate intramolecular force correction in
 the source code. I tried the mail archive and Google search but couldn't
 exactly locate/find anything helpful. Pardon me if this question was asked
 earlier and answered.


GROMACS doesn't implement rigid molecules except inasmuch as they can be
expressed through holonomic constraints on bonds and angles (or frozen
atoms). As such, the forces are projected out (respectively, zeroed), so
the question does not arise.

Mark


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Re: [gmx-users] Eror: No parallel Ewald use PME instead!

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
Thanks for providing a small fraction of the information for which Justin
asked. You stand a much better chance of ever getting an answer from
volunteers if you provide more detail than you think could ever be
relevant. :-)

Mark


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:39 PM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Dear Justin,

 here is my mdp file:

 title = Liquid CO2 NVT
 ; Run parameters
 integrator = md-vv
 nsteps = 200
 dt = 0.001
 emtol = 1.0
 emstep  = 0.0001
 ; Output control
 nstxout = 1000
 nstvout = 1000
 nstenergy = 1000
 nstlog = 100
 ; Bond parameters
 continuation = no
 constraint_algorithm = lincs
 constraints = all-bonds

 ; Neighborsearching
 ns_type = grid
 nstlist = 5
 rlist = 1.25
 rcoulomb = 1.25
 rvdw = 1.25
 ; Electrostatics
 coulombtype = ewald
 fourierspacing = 0.6
 ; Temperature coupling is on
 tcoupl = nose-hoover
 tc-grps = system
 tau_t = 0.1
 ref_t = 300
 ; Pressure coupling is off
 pcoupl = no
 ; Periodic boundary conditions
 pbc = xyz ; 3-D PBC
 ; Dispersion correction
 DispCorr = EnerPres
 ; Velocity generation
 gen_vel = yes
 gen_temp = 300
 gen_seed = -1




 On 6/4/14, 8:29 AM, Ali Alizadeh wrote:
  Dear Mark,
 
  In my first simulation we had these lines:
 
  ; Electrostatics
  coulombtype= PME; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
  electrostatics
  pme_order= 4; cubic interpolation
  fourierspacing= 0.12; grid spacing for FFT
 
  ---
 
  ; Electrostatics
  coulombtype= ewald; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
  electrostatics
  fourierspacing= 0.6; grid spacing for FFT
 
  -
 
  My system in 2nd case is equilibrated.
 

 For anyone to make sense of what you're doing, you'll need to provide
 complete
 .mdp files (those settings are not the only determining factors of the
 validity
 of the model physics) and evidence of what you're deciding is equilibrated,
 stable, etc (i.e. real numbers and output from whatever relevant analysis).

 -Justin

  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:35 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
  wrote:
 
 
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Ali Alizadeh 
  ali.alizadehmoja...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Dear Mark,
 
  Thank you for your reply.
 
  When you do not change any parameters except one thing in mdp file(PME
 to
 
  ewald as the paper said that)and then your system converges, for me it
 means the problem is related to
 
  choosing the right method for  calculation of the electrostatic
 potential energy. What's your point on it?
 
 
  My point is that a flawed model physics, or a flawed system preparation,
  can get lucky and run stably, or not. On the information given, there is
 no
  reason to suppose that changing the kind of reciprocal-space
 approximation
  is relevant. Last time I heard a report like this, the person had
 changed
  various nonbonded settings to make things run faster, and in so doing
  produced a junk model physics.
 
  Mark
 
 
  -
 
  Mark wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  What makes you think the PME algorithm, rather than your choices of
  settings for it (and twenty other things), is the problem?
 
  Mark
 
 
  On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 7:57 AM, Ali Alizadeh ali.alizadehmojarad at
 gmail.com 
 https://maillist.sys.kth.se/mailman/listinfo/gromacs.org_gmx-users
  wrote:
 
  * Dear All users,
  *
  * I have encounter this error:
  ** -
  ** Fatal error:
  ** No parallel Ewald. Use PME instead.
  ** --
  ** I used 8 cores and gromacs 4.5.5, for doing my calculations. I
 should use
  ** ewald method because
  ** my system can not converge using PME it heats up my system. Are
 there any
  ** suggestions?
  ** --
  ** Sincerely
  ** Ali Alizadeh
  ** --*
 

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[gmx-users] Intra molecular force correction for SPME

2014-06-04 Thread Sumith YD
Dear Mark,
For the paper please refer 
http://www.ii.uib.no/~matthey/text/mattheyPhD.pdf;.
While calculating the forces in SPC/E water, H-O, H-H forces in the same
molecule will be calculated in reciprocal space due to the property of
Particle Mesh technique. Do you mean to say that this will be compensated
by SHAKE/SETTLE? Won't it affect the net force acting on the molecule if we
don't remove it?

Sumith YD


Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 21:26:31 +0200
From: Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
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On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Sumith YD ydsum...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear gromacs community,

 How does the gromacs calculate Intra molecular force correction (To
correct
 the unwanted intra molecular force in Fourier space especially for rigid
 molecules)? I couldn't find that information listed anywhere in the
manual.
 I could find some details from Publications by Thierry Matthey- PhD
 thesis.


Where is that?

But I couldn't find gromacs citing it and hence just curious to
 know is there any other reference which gromacs uses?
 I am also having a hard time to locate intramolecular force correction in
 the source code. I tried the mail archive and Google search but couldn't
 exactly locate/find anything helpful. Pardon me if this question was asked
 earlier and answered.


GROMACS doesn't implement rigid molecules except inasmuch as they can be
expressed through holonomic constraints on bonds and angles (or frozen
atoms). As such, the forces are projected out (respectively, zeroed), so
the question does not arise.

Mark


 Sumith
 Mechanical Engineer, Syracuse University.
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[gmx-users] help gm1

2014-06-04 Thread leonardo villalba
hi...
I'm starting in Gromacs and gm1 I'm working with, I have formed micelles
with gm1, but I could not make the topology file, I've tried with martini
but I get an error grompp. would greatly appreciate your help, thank you
very much



Lic Biochemistry Leonardo Villalba

Ministerio de Ciencia y Tecnologia Cordoba

Cordoba, Argentina
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Re: [gmx-users] Out of disk space

2014-06-04 Thread Mark Abraham
Choosing appropriate output-frequency settings, nsteps to cap your file
size, and mdrun -noappend is likely your best approach.

Mark


On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Mark Abraham mark.j.abra...@gmail.com
wrote:




 On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Carlos Familia carlosfami...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hello,

 I was running the final equilibration step (NTP) and i received an error
 saying that i was running out of disk space, the trajectory file writen
 has
 2GB, and every retry will generate a file with the same size. I have
 looked
 for file size limit, but there is no limitation that i can find on my
 system. I am runing arch linux on a 32bits computer (i686),


 That is likely a limitation that is manifest in whatever library stack is
 supporting the file writing that GROMACS is using. If (say) the C library
 uses a 32-bit integer for the size, bang you're dead.


 the file system
 is ext4, have 2GB of ram, and 64GB of disk available.

 The command issued was:

 mdrun -v -deffnm npt

 The gromacs message was:

 Program mdrun, VERSION 4.6.5
 Source code file:
 .../aur-gromacs-mpi/src/gromacs-4.6.5/src/gmxlib/trnio.c, line: 311

 File input/output error:
 Cannot write trajectory frame; maybe you are out of disk space?
 For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please check the
 GROMACS

 I have also runned the comman ulimit -a, that showed:

 core file size  (blocks, -c) 0
 data seg size   (kbytes, -d) unlimited
 scheduling priority (-e) 30
 file size   (blocks, -f) unlimited
 pending signals (-i) 16117
 max locked memory   (kbytes, -l) unlimited
 max memory size (kbytes, -m) unlimited
 open files  (-n) 1024
 pipe size(512 bytes, -p) 8
 POSIX message queues (bytes, -q) 819200
 real-time priority  (-r) 99
 stack size  (kbytes, -s) 8192
 cpu time   (seconds, -t) unlimited
 max user processes  (-u) 16117
 virtual memory  (kbytes, -v) unlimited
 file locks  (-x) unlimited

 Additionally i run a program to write 2.5 GB to disk in c++, that
 generated
 the 2.5GB file without any problem:

 #include iostream
 #include fstream
 #include vector

 int main()
 {
 std::vectorchar empty(1024, 0);
 std::ofstream ofs(ouput.img, std::ios::binary | std::ios::out);

 for(int i = 0; i  1024*2560; i++)
 {
 if (!ofs.write(empty[0], empty.size()))
 {
 std::cerr  problem writing to file  std::endl;
 return 255;
 }
 }
 }

 Any ideas on how to solve this?


 Use a 64-bit operating system ;-) This is a problem users of your
 operating system have likely encountered before, so if there is (say) a C
 library that is compiled in some kind of 64-bit work-around mode, you may
 be able to use that. The C++ library seems like it may have such a back end.

 I know that i can change the parameters in the mdp file in order to
 generate smaller files, but i was looking for a different solution that
 wouldn't require this.
 Is there any option to mdrun that could split the trajectory file for a
 specified size?


 No.

 Mark



 Thanks,

 Carlos Família
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Re: [gmx-users] No such moleculetype ZN

2014-06-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/4/14, 2:25 PM, elham tazikeh wrote:

Dear Justin

Please ignore my previous questions.

I want to do 2 md simulations: 1) protein and Cu, 2) protein and Zn.
After checking

force fields in gromacs 4.5.3, I found oplsaa in which there are both
Cu and Zn ions

in atomtype.atp file. Then I used gromacs 4.6.5 (with opls force
field) to do md

simulations. I added ions to my system using genion command.


genion -s ions.tpr -o sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -pname CU -pq +2
-neutral -conc 0.025.

genion -s ions.tpr -o sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -pname ZN -pq +2
-neutral -conc 0.025.

In both cases, ions were added without problem. Then, I used

grompp -f em.mdp -c sol_ions.gro -p topol.top -o em.tpr

In case of protein and Cu, there is not problem. But, in case of protein
and Zn,

I encountered error: No such moleculetype ZN.

I checked ions.itp in opls force field in gromacs 4.6.5, I found, there are both

Cu and Zn ions in atomtype.atp file. But, there is only Cu in ions.itp file.

How to do md simulation of protein-zn system using gromacs 4.6.5.



It may not be possible, but that's a force field issue, not a software issue. 
Most force fields don't cover more than a few metal ions, and even then the 
parameters for transition metals are generally incapable of capturing the true 
physical behavior of these ions.  Such is the limitation of additive MM force 
fields.


The Zn parameters were indeed removed from OPLS; their parameters were either 
undocumented or found to be incorrect.  So it is possible to use 4.5.3 to make 
things work, but the parameters you're applying are not trustworthy.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] help gm1

2014-06-04 Thread Justin Lemkul



On 6/4/14, 5:00 PM, leonardo villalba wrote:

hi...
I'm starting in Gromacs and gm1 I'm working with, I have formed micelles
with gm1, but I could not make the topology file, I've tried with martini
but I get an error grompp. would greatly appreciate your help, thank you
very much



What exactly do you need help with?  If you need help, you need to be specific.

-Justin

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