The list?

2000-11-16 Thread Roger Van Santen

Did I miss something?  Has the list been down, or have I been unsubbed?  I
haven't received any posts for over a week.

Roger Van Santen






Re: '93 GTS FOR SALE

2000-11-04 Thread Roger Van Santen

Come now, Steve, don't make everyone think the weather is so bad up here.  I
have 112,000 miles on my '93 and I haven't had to wear rain gear all that
much. ;^)  You might want to think again before you sell.

Roger Van Santen


'93 Yamaha GTS, 20K miles, very good shape, I'm pretty sure it's stock =
(2nd owner), 2 repair manuals, 1 Shoei RF-800 (XL) helmet (color nearly =
matches the bike), 1 additional helmet (L). Being transferred back to =
Oregon and I don't ride enough (weather) up there to keep the bike (be =
easy on me...I hate raingear).  $6500.  Initial inquiries via e-mail =
please.  Thank you,=20

Steve Robbins
Pasadena, CA
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Re: Medic !!!!

2000-08-28 Thread Roger Van Santen

Darren,

If the TPS seems to check out OK, you might want to check all of the other
sensors.  My '94 was acting in a similar manner.  I finally traced it to a
short in the cam position sensor.  The wire had been pinched between the
head and the frame, penetrating the insulation and grounding it.  I wrapped
the bare wire with tape and rerouted it and works like new.  FWIW, YMMV,
etc. etc. etc.

Roger


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Date: Monday, August 28, 00 6:49 AM
Subject: RE: Medic 




Hi Kevin,
Adjusting the pot on the ECU was one of the first things I looked into
when the bike started acting up thinking it was a simple enough
procedure. Wouldn't you know it the previous owner had beaten me to it.
: (  !!! I am going to mess with the TPS tonight when I get home (after
I get that flapper valve out of the fuel tank) I suspect though that the
TPS might in fact be bad since it is so bad I stalled it twice just
trying to get it home I even had it stall once midcorner (not fun). Any
other suggestions ?

Darren








Dave's Northwest Passage Rally

2000-08-07 Thread Roger Van Santen

I just got back from the finishers banquet for the Northwest Passage Rally.
This was a three day event starting and ending in Everett, WA.  It took the
riders through British Columbia, Alberta, Montana, Idaho, Oregon and back to
Washington.  Suffice to say that Dave Biasotti did us proud!  He tied for
second with his friend Alan.  First place was a tie by two previous winners
of the Iron Butt Rally.

Dave has become very serious and competitive about this sport.  He is now on
a two week vacation, but he promised a write up about the rally when he gets
home.

Roger (who had to sit this one out) Van Santen








Re: Big bike trip to commence next week

2000-07-29 Thread Roger Van Santen

Kelly,

I'm assuming since Salem is the completion of your third consecutive SS
1000, you're planning on spending the night?  We'll be ready for you.  You
have my number?  If you're documenting the rides, you've got a witness here
also.  Keep me posted.

Roger
-Original Message-
From: Kelly Cash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, July 28, 00 10:09 AM
Subject: Big bike trip to commence next week


Hi all-  I'll be heading out this Wednesday, and will
be going through most of your areas.  Will be in Washington,
D.C. a couple of days (and could hook up with folks there
around dinner time, Aug 8), Ottawa a couple of days, and
Oklahoma City a day and a half.

08/02 Ride to L.A.  -  500 mi
08/03 Ride to Albuquerque   -  891 mi
08/04 Ride to Oklahoma City -  428 mi
08/06 Ride to St. Louis -  508 mi
08/07 Ride to D.C.  -  830 mi
08/10 Ride to Yarmouth, ME  -  570 mi
08/11 Ride to Ottawa-  401 mi
08/13 Ride to Toronto   -  241 mi
08/14 Ride to Drysden   - 1018 mi  \  This will be a
08/15 Ride to Brooks- 1048 mi   - New personal record for
08/16 Ride to Salem, OR - 1006 mi  /  endurance riding
08/17 Ride to home  -  630 mi

Already planning to see Maxine and Robert Wilson in Canada, and
will be going through Calgary (with only enough time for lunch).
Send me an email if I'll pass by you!

 -K

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Re: Laguna Seca GTS Count -- 9!

2000-07-13 Thread Roger Van Santen

Mike,

I had local obligations, but I was thinking about all of you.  Maybe next
year.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, July 13, 00 8:44 PM
Subject: Laguna Seca GTS Count -- 9!


 Roger, we had 9 GTS's at Laguna last weekend. You would have made it
double
digits for GTS's. Oregon to Monterey, CA ... come on, you'd have just
gotten
warmed up!

 The GTS riders that were there had a great time. It was really nice to be
able to meet and talk face-to-face with other GTSer's. Can't wait till next
year ... Laguna is a blast.

Michael Cordon
'94 GTS

P.S. Bob  Bev ... I really enjoyed getting to know you kids! Hope we can
do
it again very soon.








Re: GPS opinions

2000-07-04 Thread Roger Van Santen

MCN recently had a comparison/evaluation of several GPS's.  I have a Garmin
III Plus and like it very much.  It is smaller and easier to mount than the
Street Pilot -- another popular GPS in the long distance riding community.
The basic map doesn't show all of the secondary roads that you probably
ride, but you can download more regional detail from a CD that is available.
If you are relying on the GPS for accurate road mile planning, the Street
Pilot or eMAP are better.  They calculate waypoint to waypoint mileage in
road miles, while the III + calculates in line-of-site miles, so your ETA
will be inaccurate with the III+.

One feature that I like about the III+ that I don't believe the others have
is a voltage read out.  Since I've loaded my electrical system with a lot of
extra "stuff", it's nice to be able to monitor when I'm approaching the
threshold of running an electrical deficit.

I find it to be handy while night riding for anticipating upcoming junctions
in the road, especially when in unfamiliar territory.  The screen is backlit
and the brightness can be adjusted to a comfortable level.  By zooming the
screen in or out, you can reference where you are relative to where you want
to be (towns, other hiways, etc.)

Much of the time, I find the GPS to be an entertaining toy, but there are
times that it is an invaluable tool.  I have it hardwired to my Super Hawk
as well as the GTS's, cause I don't like to leave town without it.

If you shop a little on the internet, you can find some reasonable prices.

Hope this helped a bit.  If you have anymore specific questions, ask away.
I know there a several of on this list that have the things.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Michael Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, July 04, 00 7:14 AM
Subject: GPS opinions


Hey all,

I'm considering a GPS system for the bike with moving map display. The
Garmin line looks real nice, but they are expensive. Opinions on GPS
systems? What's good, what's not? Esp. for people on a budget.

Take care,
Mike

Michael Weaver  (706)542-6468 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
UCNS Network Specialist   LAN Support Group
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Re: My new/old GTS

2000-06-16 Thread Roger Van Santen

It's not a race.  It's merely a personal effort/ challenge done by lone
individuals just to see if they can.  And it's best accomplished in the wide
open, lonely spaces of the West.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: paramithas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, June 16, 00 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: My new/old GTS


I didn't know such races existed. Let me see at 83.33m/h, which is above
the
speed limit, and no stops whatsoever one can do 2,000 miles in 24 hours.
How
do organizers get away with it? How do they keep the enforcement 'YOU
SHALL"
types from putting a stop to such event?

George would love to participate

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From: Roger Van Santen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2000 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: My new/old GTS


 Many of you know John from years past.  For those that don't know, he is
a
 very serious, accomplished rider.  He is one of a handful of people who
has
 ridden a "2KDay"; i.e. 2000 miles in less than 24 hours.  When he's
 participating in an endurance rally, he's very focused.

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Re: My new/old GTS

2000-06-15 Thread Roger Van Santen

John,
Congratulations.
Now I can say "I told you so" and welcome to the club.  As you get the bike
set up just as you want, you will like it better and better.  I look forward
to following your progress, and may just have to ride back to check up on
you.

Roger
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From: John Laurenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, June 15, 00 8:40 AM
Subject: My new/old GTS


It official..I now belong on the GTS list and I'm not simply a
lurker.  I rode the bike back from Texas to St. Augustine yesterday
and loved every minute.  I put 10% of it 10,600 mileage on in 15
hours.  It runs better already.Now I'm looking for advice on the
best place and the best manuals?  Also anyone out there with a stock
seat they know they won't ever use, please contact me off list with a
price.  I want to get one to modify the pillion with some ideas I
have to use it as a touring set up. Any off list words of advice are
welcomed.

The new front tire on itPirelli Dragon is cupping pretty badly
already.  I had great luck with Avon Azaros on the front of FJ which
stopped this.  Comments.

hawke

below is a reprint of my comments on the ride to a friend:

"The guy I bought the bike from is a Honda mechanic in the Plano
Texas Honda shop.  I was late getting into Texas because I missed my
flight our of OK City.  The business discussions dragged on a little
too long, but the guy I was with felt bad and drove me down. What a
small world the Internet makes...while doing the deal in the show
room, I bought the bike from the owner, a guy walked up and sat on
the GTS.  The guy I'm with asks, jokingly,  if he would like to buy
it.  Then this stranger starts to carry on about knowing all about me
and the GTS deal.  The mechanic and the guy with me look stupified as
he talks; like, are you world famous John..:) Then the stranger
explains about the LDR list...:)

The ride home from Texas to St. Augustine was a good chance to get
acquainted with the GTS.  It is a lot different than the FJŠ..it is
much more finely engineered and advanced compared to the old FJ to
make it concise.  Getting off the FJ and onto the GTS and then riding
1200 plus miles in less than a day, the differences become extremely
focused in the mind.

The RADD front end is outstanding.  On the FJ, when riding in
anything loose or unstable, I had virtually no control.  It took all
my skills just to keep the bike up right on a gravel road.  The FJ
wouldn't steer, simply plow. Riding down the unfinished road leading
into my sister place in Texas was a nice shock.  I had to carefully
pick my spot when I rode the FJ, in fact, I went down a few months
earlier on the FJ when it hit a soft wet grass area and slid out from
underneath meŠwith this GTS, it is like being on a dirt bike.  It has
no tendency to slid or move on unstable ground. The same feeling with
the GTS transfers to hard ground and in cornersŠ.it is on rails.  It
inspires confidence in all riding conditions.

It is no light weight at just over 600 lbs wet, but that heaviness
disappears once the bike is moving. It feels like you can touch
either side of the bike down in the tight stuff without giving it a
second thought because it feels so well planted.  The ride is
extremely plush with little being transmitted back through the
handlebars.

The power is there,  but it doesn't have that surge at seven grand,
like the FJ.  It just revs and revs like an electric motor. Very
smooth, but still has a lot of grunt.  You can leave it in top gear
and pull all the way from 1500 rpm without a hic-up.

On the same ride and at the same speeds, 80 to 90 mph average, on the
ride back from Texas, the FJ would have given me around 30 mpg.
Roger always told me how good his gas mileage was and I used to
thinkŠyeah!  But this EFI system on the Yamaha is something else.  At
the same speedo speeds, and by the speed I was passing traffic, the
speedo is probably about 5% off, like the FJ, I got outstanding
mileage.  I average 44 to 47 mpg on 5 tank fill ups.  It dropped to
44 mpg when I was able to hold the speed closer to 90.  I couldn't
believe it.  What a nice surprise, I almost don't need to put on an
aux tank compared to the FJ. Just short of 200 miles the low fuel
light comes on and I fill it up with 4 gallons.  There is a guy on
the GTS list that is a metal worker and who can bump out the stock
tank to over seven gallons and still fit it under the plastic.  That
may be the sensible way to go for LD riding on this thing.

In shortŠI think I have a keeper in this bike, even if Yamaha brings
out a light weight tourer.  I'll just have to get a bigger garage."

hawke







Re: Suspension Ideas

2000-05-22 Thread Roger Van Santen

Thomas,

Both the front and rear shocks can be rebuilt, even though Yamaha will not
tell you that fact.  And it's a lot cheaper than buying new ones.  Circuit
One up here in Oregon City does a good job, as does Lindemann Engineering.
You'll be amazed the difference when you get the shocks rebuilt/replaced.

Roger Van Santen


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Date: Monday, May 22, 00 9:01 AM
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Re: GTS Endurance Riding

2000-05-04 Thread Roger Van Santen

Mike,

The Cal 24 was just canceled due to insufficient response.  So Laguna is a
go.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, May 04, 00 8:16 PM
Subject: GTS Endurance Riding


 Dave, when Iron Roger posted his endurance friend's link, I checked out
the Cal 24
.. even printed and filled out the application form. However, after
checking the
calendar, I saw that it's the same day as Laguna Seca. I'm still seriously
thinking
about the Cal 24, but I just don't know if I can pass up Laguna. Damn ...
I'm totally
confused.

Mike Cordon
'94 GTS
'98 Ducati 996

Dave Biasotti wrote:

 Aha, but I'm wiser and better armed now - that is more gas! I can go
farther before
 I run out trying to make it to the next gas station.
 Why don't you try it - did you enter the Cal 24 July 7-9th out of Dublin?
 Right in your back yard (mine too).
 Call Tom Melchild @ 925-846-1772 to see if entry space still available.
 --
 Dave Biasotti // Fremont, CA

 Mike wrote:

  Dave, do you mean that you didn't enjoy being stranded without fuel on
some
  great road in Nowhere, Utah for hours in the middle of the night? I
still have
  to smile at that one.
  Hey, it could have been worse, you could have been stuck in Provo.
Yeah,
  Utah has some awesome roads and a number of incredible National Parks
.. but
  that state it ain't all roses ... BYU is there. Yuk.
 
  Mike Cordon
  '94 GTS
 
  Dave Biasotti wrote:
 
   That's one of the great attractions of the Utah 1088 rally - they
send you
   out on some of the greatest roads in Utah and surrounding states.
That's why
   I'm going back again this year (late June) for another whirl. This
time I
   have a modified (all under the stock plastic) 7.25 gal fuel tank now.
Plus
   other little mods.
   I'm planning on a finish this year!
   --
   Dave Biasotti // Fremont, CA
   Dir of Procurement, LSI Logic Corp
   93 GTS-1000 // 83 Honda CX650Turbo
  
   Allan Parker wrote:
  
To all those people I missed on my trip I apologize. Even though I
was
under no time constraints schedules did develop and the weather was
a
tyrant which could not and would not be ignored. Well, 6500 miles
and
not slightest problem. I changed oil in South Caroline and put new
tires
on, in the Detroit area. I have now put 50,500 miles on in 3.5
years and
could not be happier with the bike. All the best, Allan
PS To all you folks in the east--don't ride in Utah. You'll
hate yourselves when you have to return home.







Re: hey.....Utah isn't that far from here....

2000-04-27 Thread Roger Van Santen

Phil,

Check out www.endurance-touring.net/index.shtml.   Click on Iron Butt Way
and then click on rally schedule.  You'll find a complete list of the coming
endurance rallies.  A rally even closer to you is the "Land of Enchantment"
rally Sept. 1-3.  From reports of last years rally, it was a fun ride, and
in areas you're very familiar with.

Roger

Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, April 27, 00 7:17 AM
Subject: hey.Utah isn't that far from here




On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Dave Biasotti wrote:

 That's one of the great attractions of the Utah 1088 rally - they send
you
 out on some of the greatest roads in Utah and surrounding states. That's
why
 I'm going back again this year (late June) for another whirl. This time I
 have a modified (all under the stock plastic) 7.25 gal fuel tank now.
Plus
 other little mods.
 I'm planning on a finish this year!

OK, so now I'm interested.  Someone, Dave or anyone else, want to post
specifics on this little shindig?

Phil








Re: My GTS is Back!

2000-04-20 Thread Roger Van Santen

I went to a 42 and had to shorten the chain.  That ratio works well for the
style of riding that I do, but at the expense of acceleration/throttle
response.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, April 19, 00 10:37 PM
Subject: Re: My GTS is Back!


A while back Mike Coan suggested the rubber was a
cushion or vibration damper.  This was during our 532
to 530 conversion discussion.  I believe he went with
the conversion.

How much smaller did you go?  I think Roger went to a
44 with the same chain length...

--- SHAWN  PEARSALL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
snip
The Protek front sprocket is a piece
 of metal...verses the
 yamaha oem part that is rubber  metal (difference?)
 The DID chain seems
 long.  How do I shorten it...with a chain breaker?
 Ideas welcomed

 Shawn P



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Re: ABS cycles --now FLUFF

2000-04-18 Thread Roger Van Santen

I've already thought of that.  With 104K on the odo, she's only ridden with
me once on the GTS.  So the whine comes from somewhere else.

Roger
-Original Message-
From: Eugene Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, April 18, 00 7:42 AM
Subject: Re: ABS cycles (lengthy and technical--delete if not interested)


To get rid of the whine. Leave the wife at home!

On Tue, 18 Apr 2000 10:03:35 -0400 (EDT) Louis Tweed
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ahhh, this is what started the whole discussion.  So what did you do to
get rid
 of the whine sound coming through the CB?  What gain are you adjusting?
RF
 gain?  I don't have that adjustment.
 Louis

 Roger Van Santen wrote:

  I'll chime in and agree that Terry is probably correct in his
evaluation of
  how the ABS system operates.  And Louis Tweed is correct about rough
road
  (rail road tracks) activating the pump.  If I have the gain adjusted
too
  high on my CB radio, it comes through the ear phones loud and
clear--and
  very annoying.  The same thing happens when the bike is started.  I
would
  also agree that this is way too complicated for Yamaha to use as
advertising
  fodder.
 
  FWIW my 2 cents.
 
  Roger Van Santen
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Baker Terry-P27739 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Monday, April 17, 00 11:42 AM
  Subject: Re: ABS cycles (lengthy and technical--delete if not
interested)
 
  OK--I think I understand (hopefully) where the misunderstanding is.  I
  contend that what I described is truly what the system is designed to
do.
 
  BIG SNIP
 
  etc. to the hot lead on the electric motor and then go out and ride
the
  applied at all.  If I still owned a GTS, I would gladly do this.  If
  someone else on the list performs this test and proves me wrong--I'll
eat a
  load of crow and retract my above statements.  Until that happens, I
stand
  by my claims.
  
  .
  
  
  
   Not that it didnt happen, that it was supposed to
  happen, is where we differ.
  
  I still contend that it is _supposed_ to happen, but I'll be the first
to
  admit that I'm the only one to have made such a claim and that I have
  _only_
  my experiences with working on my own GTS to back that up.  That's why
I'm
  asking someone else out there to either back me up or shoot me down
based
  on
  tests, not opinions or incomplete/vague shop manuals.  As to why or
why not
  Yamaha chose not to disclose this in the manuals or literature, I'm
not
  sure, but the statements that you made make sense.
  
  
 
  is a note saying the graph is only representative of the idea
(loosely
  paraphrased) of the ingnition curve.
  
  I say that they've taken the same approach to their description of the
ABS
  system in the shop manual--it's intentionally incomplete, but does
offer
  enough material to describe the system and that's it.
  
  I claim that it is, based _only_ on my own experience (sample of 1)
and
  I'll
  have to leave it at that until someone else makes an effort to
re-create my
  findings.  A meter or light bulb hooked up to the hot lead of the
electric
  motor will do this.  Anyone willing to step up??
  
  The blood-pumping thing is fun, isn't it RSRBOB??
  
  Game ON!!
  
  Terry Baker


Eugene Boyle
Heriot-Watt University







Re: ABS cycles (lengthy and technical--delete if not interested)

2000-04-17 Thread Roger Van Santen

I'll chime in and agree that Terry is probably correct in his evaluation of
how the ABS system operates.  And Louis Tweed is correct about rough road
(rail road tracks) activating the pump.  If I have the gain adjusted too
high on my CB radio, it comes through the ear phones loud and clear--and
very annoying.  The same thing happens when the bike is started.  I would
also agree that this is way too complicated for Yamaha to use as advertising
fodder.

FWIW my 2 cents.

Roger Van Santen

-Original Message-
From: Baker Terry-P27739 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, April 17, 00 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: ABS cycles (lengthy and technical--delete if not interested)


OK--I think I understand (hopefully) where the misunderstanding is.  I
contend that what I described is truly what the system is designed to do.

BIG SNIP

etc. to the hot lead on the electric motor and then go out and ride the
applied at all.  If I still owned a GTS, I would gladly do this.  If
someone else on the list performs this test and proves me wrong--I'll eat a
load of crow and retract my above statements.  Until that happens, I stand
by my claims.

.



 Not that it didnt happen, that it was supposed to
happen, is where we differ.

I still contend that it is _supposed_ to happen, but I'll be the first to
admit that I'm the only one to have made such a claim and that I have
_only_
my experiences with working on my own GTS to back that up.  That's why I'm
asking someone else out there to either back me up or shoot me down based
on
tests, not opinions or incomplete/vague shop manuals.  As to why or why not
Yamaha chose not to disclose this in the manuals or literature, I'm not
sure, but the statements that you made make sense.



is a note saying the graph is only representative of the idea (loosely
paraphrased) of the ingnition curve.

I say that they've taken the same approach to their description of the ABS
system in the shop manual--it's intentionally incomplete, but does offer
enough material to describe the system and that's it.

I claim that it is, based _only_ on my own experience (sample of 1) and
I'll
have to leave it at that until someone else makes an effort to re-create my
findings.  A meter or light bulb hooked up to the hot lead of the electric
motor will do this.  Anyone willing to step up??

The blood-pumping thing is fun, isn't it RSRBOB??

Game ON!!

Terry Baker






Re: Sniff! ;-(

2000-03-11 Thread Roger Van Santen

Terry,

Thanks for all you've contributed to this list through the years. Especially
your rebuild of the ABS hydraulic unit.  We'll miss your input.  And do stay
on so that you can jump in occasionally with your words of wisdom.  Good
luck and keep in touch.

Roger Van Santen

-Original Message-
From: Baker Terry-P27739 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, March 11, 00 4:02 PM
Subject: Sniff! ;-(


The time has finally arrived.  I just sent Jim Guss, of Santa Fe, New
Mexico, on his way home with what used to be my '94 GTS.  I hope Jim will
thoroughly enjoy the machine as much as I have and that he will appreciate
the value that this list offers to a GTS owner.  (Especially now that it
has
a new battery and you can make it past Superior, AZ--right Jim??)  ;-)

I do intend to stay on the list and maybe even stay active.  However, from
this point on, I'm more of a spectator.

Good luck Jim!!!  Thanks to all of those who have provided support to me
during my ownership.

Terry Baker





Re: Winter Ride

2000-01-25 Thread Roger Van Santen

The distance isn't the issue.  I'll be down in Loma Linda two weeks before
that, and I have too many other things going right now to take that much
time out of the office.  I thought about riding the bike down to Loma Linda
to leave at a friends, then flying to meet you guys, but time doesn't allow
that either.  So I'll quit whining and wish you all a fun and safe time.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tuesday, January 25, 00 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: Winter Ride


Roger;
 I know it is a long way to go for you, but I was still hoping that you
could make it.

Bob





Re: Winter Ride

2000-01-24 Thread Roger Van Santen

Bob,

I expressed some interest, but my schedule won't allow me to get away that
weekend.  All of you have a great and safe ride.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, January 21, 00 6:40 PM
Subject: Re: Winter Ride


To those who expressed interest in a ride in San Diego County thru the
mountains and canyons and on down to Ensanada, Baja Ca.

 Over the next week could I get a count on all who are planning on
going?
  I





Re: Lands End Outlet update

2000-01-17 Thread Roger Van Santen

I just ordered two shirts today--light blue and natural.  So we should about
have enough orders to stitch.  Shawn, can we modify the logo enough to put
it on baseball caps?  It's just slightly too wide.
Thanks for all the work you've done on this project.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: SHAWN PEARSALL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, January 17, 00 8:54 AM
Subject: Lands End Outlet update


No seconds on Denium shirts still folks, besides I'm being told there is a
corporate policy shift regarding the logo's and outlet sales...not sure
what
that is yetI'll know more today.







Re: GTS Top Speed?

2000-01-17 Thread Roger Van Santen

I've seen 149 on the speedo.  Soon maybe I'll have a reading on the GPS.

Roger

-Original Message-
From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, January 17, 00 10:14 PM
Subject: GTS Top Speed?


 A buddy with a Honda CBR1000 was asking about the top speed of the GTS. I
told him it'd probably go about a buck forty or so. He didn't think so ...
anybody know what these single-sided studs will do?

Mike Cordon
'94 GTS






Re: Winter Ride

2000-01-07 Thread Roger Van Santen

I thought he had one down there, so I was only half joking.  If time is an
issue getting down and back, I may see if he'll let me borrow/rent it.

Thanks,

Roger

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, January 07, 2000 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Winter Ride


In a message dated 1/6/2000 9:37:46 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Kelly, I'm giving it some thought.  If there's snow over the Siskiyous,
  maybe I can borrow a bike from Mike Coan?!  ; ^ ))

Roger;
Mike has one of his GTS's in San Diego, why dont you e-mail him?

Bob





Re: Winter Ride

2000-01-06 Thread Roger Van Santen


-Original Message-
From: Kelly Cash [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, January 06, 2000 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: Winter Ride


 P.S.  I would really like to do the Baja run also, but somehow I don't
 think I will be able to make it.
 Louis
Okay, Louis-  My "quit whining and ride" message doesn't mean you.
You have a decent excuse for not coming out.  As does Maxine, KHawkins,
and everyone else east of the Mississippi River.  And I suppose Phil
too, he'll no doubt be teaching.  But everyone in CA and AZ should
be able to make it!  And Roger?

Kelly, I'm giving it some thought.  If there's snow over the Siskiyous,
maybe I can borrow a bike from Mike Coan?!  ; ^ ))

Roger

 -K

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Re: Gloves and Electrics

1999-12-10 Thread Roger Van Santen


-Original Message-
From: Burton, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Friday, December 03, 1999 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: Gloves and Electrics
In the mean time
my hands and feet would get cold if I turned down the Heat-troller to keep
my back from frying. BTW, last time I emailed some with Mike Coan they were
working on a new Heat-troller with Dual Controls. I think Iron-Man Roger
tried one out in the Iron Butt this year.

 You're right.  I used one of the permanent mount dual control units.  The
complete unit is the size of the old single control.  It is more efficient
because he has changed the wire size and the heat seems to be better
controlled.  There is no "strobing" of my driving/headlights that I observed
with the older unit.  In my case, I have my gloves (Gerbing) and jacket
liner on one system and my socks on the other--just personal preference.  I
have found that I want heat to my upper body sooner than to my feet most of
the time.  And you're right, it is a nuisance to hook up all the
wires--maybe that's why I ride the long distances, it's too much trouble to
get on and off the bike, so I just stay on it. ; ^ )

BTW, Mike is planning to keep the cost of the new systems about the same as
the old, well worth the price.  And it's my understanding that the new ones
should be available soon.


. Electrics are great and provide for
comfortable year-round riding here in N.C(warmer today 36 this am, 65 later
today, boy will it be hard to come back to work after lunch...) I do think
the dual Heat-troller would be the best solution overall though, Bob B.


Amen!  We can be greatful that Mike is a part of our group.  His product has
certainly stretched my riding season to almost year round.

Roger
99 IBR silver medalist







Re: New Owner!

1999-11-17 Thread Roger Van Santen


-Original Message-
From: BENSON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, November 17, 1999 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: New Owner!




On Wed, 17 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I would take Roger up on his offer to go for a ride sometime, but beware
 Roger's idea of a ride may leave you a little sore in the rear.  Roger
 will surely receive this year's high mileage award.

So just what's wrong with a quick ride down to Tierra del Fuego and back??

:)

Phil



So Phil,  how much time do you have and when are we going? ;^)) )

Roger





Re: New Owner!

1999-01-16 Thread Roger Van Santen

Let's bag the GTS's and take dual sports, say, R1150GS's?  You like twins
almost as much as singles.

-Original Message-
From: BENSON [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipients of list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: New Owner!




On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Roger Van Santen wrote:

  I would take Roger up on his offer to go for a ride sometime, but
beware
  Roger's idea of a ride may leave you a little sore in the rear.  Roger
  will surely receive this year's high mileage award.
 
 So just what's wrong with a quick ride down to Tierra del Fuego and
back??
 
 Phil
 
 

 So Phil,  how much time do you have and when are we going? ;^)) )

 Roger

Dangthere I go with these ill-thought-out commitments again.  Time is
short, leave the Krausers off (road tests generally agreed that the top
end of the GTS falls from about 148 to the low 130s with the extra drag of
the wide bags).  Hmmm..dirt roads??

Phil