Re: Translating news on weblate?

[Maxime Devos]

On 07-08-2022 12:56, pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) wrote:

I was thinking we could have our news file translated at weblate, which
would help having more people translate it. Attached is a script that[…]

Translating etc/news.scm via Weblate adds delay but reaches more
translators.  Now delay is not so important when reading old news from
--list-generations or when one hasn’t upgraded in a while, but I would
prefer if those who make news, continue to request translations on some
mailing list (I forgot the name of the list alias; where is it?).  Even
though I was too slow to react to such mail in the past, I think I can
improve.


We could have both, I think?  After a new news entry, directly update 
the .po in the Guix repo, then after the patch is sent to guix-patches@ 
other people can open their favourite .po editor and add translations 
for their language and send that. No need to wait for Weblate, though 
late contributors can still translate with Weblate.


Greetings,
Maxime.



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Re: Translating news on weblate?

[pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)]

Hi Julien; sorry for the late answer.

Julien Lepiller  writes:
> I was thinking we could have our news file translated at weblate, which
> would help having more people translate it. Attached is a script that[…]

Translating etc/news.scm via Weblate adds delay but reaches more
translators.  Now delay is not so important when reading old news from
--list-generations or when one hasn’t upgraded in a while, but I would
prefer if those who make news, continue to request translations on some
mailing list (I forgot the name of the list alias; where is it?).  Even
though I was too slow to react to such mail in the past, I think I can
improve.

Also, Weblate has lazy commits
,
i.e., it only commits new changes to your (Julien’s) repository after a
while, which adds slightly more delay when it comes to news, unless the
uploader or a news download script logs in and uses the Web API’s File
Download button.  Or maybe the hypothetical Fedora Weblate component for
Guix news can be configured to push changes to your repo right away.

Thank you Julien for your maintenance of translations!  There’s not much
to say about your nice script.

Regards,
Florian

Re: Translating news on weblate?

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Julien,

Julien Lepiller  skribis:

> I was thinking we could have our news file translated at weblate, which
> would help having more people translate it. Attached is a script that
> is able to generate a pot file from the news.scm file and a translated
> news.scm file from the existing news.scm and a directory that contains
> the po files and a LINGUAS file.

I agree with what others said: it’s a great idea!

> The goal is to regularly fetch the news.scm file, generate a new pot
> that would automatically be updated on weblate. Translators can do
> their work, and the result is regularly merged back (after being
> checked that it doesn't break) in our repo.
>
> The script tries to reformat the news in a standard way and to merge
> existing copyright lines with the authorship lines in the po files. It
> is also able to generate the initial po files that I would give
> weblate, so translators don't have to redo translations that have
> already been done.

I was wondering whether we could just use xgettext to get a .pot file,
but maybe it doesn’t matter.

Given that these are news, I guess we’ll have to merge translations more
frequently than usual.

> (define  (@@ (guix channels) ))

Nitpick: You can (and should :-)) avoid this one.

Anyway, thumbs up, let’s do that!

Thanks,
Ludo’.

Re: Translating news on weblate?

[Thiago Jung Bauermann]

Hello Julien,

Julien Lepiller  writes:

> Hi Guix!
>
> I was thinking we could have our news file translated at weblate, which
> would help having more people translate it. Attached is a script that
> is able to generate a pot file from the news.scm file and a translated
> news.scm file from the existing news.scm and a directory that contains
> the po files and a LINGUAS file.
>
> The goal is to regularly fetch the news.scm file, generate a new pot
> that would automatically be updated on weblate. Translators can do
> their work, and the result is regularly merged back (after being
> checked that it doesn't break) in our repo.
>
> The script tries to reformat the news in a standard way and to merge
> existing copyright lines with the authorship lines in the po files. It
> is also able to generate the initial po files that I would give
> weblate, so translators don't have to redo translations that have
> already been done.
>
> I also attached the LINGUAS file with all languages for which we have
> at least one entry in news.scm.
>
> WDYT?

I think this is a great idea! Even if I can prepare and post a patch
with the pt_BR news translation and someone else can commit it for me,
doing it via Weblate is quicker for me and spares a committer from
having to review and commit it. Thank you for implementing it!

-- 
Thanks
Thiago

Re: Translating news on weblate?

[Taiju HIGASHI]

Hi Julien,

> I was thinking we could have our news file translated at weblate, which
> would help having more people translate it. Attached is a script that
> is able to generate a pot file from the news.scm file and a translated
> news.scm file from the existing news.scm and a directory that contains
> the po files and a LINGUAS file.

Would be nice if we could translate at Weblate.
Weblate allows people who have never contributed to Guix before to do
so.
We do not have any Japanese entries yet, but we would like to cooperate
as much as possible.

Thanks,
-- 
Taiju