RE: [h-cost] linen vs. cotton; was: Just a test
I put thin fishing line in the outside edge of the ruffle of my new chemise. Went through the wash just fine, just needed a little finger tweaking, dripped dry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melanie Schuessler Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:41 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] linen vs. cotton; was: Just a test Ooh. I'm not much of a camper, but I've already got plans for next time to make things a bit better. I'll add that to the list. On a costume note, I would like to once again put in a vote for linen over cotton as being the coolest thing around when it's ghastly hot. I could definitely tell the difference between my old cotton chemises and my new linen ones! And my new kirtles are all linen as well, thank goodness. Also, though I haven't put it through the wash a bunch of times yet, I have hopes for my new linen shirt, which has a ruffle at the top of the collar. My old cotton one turns into a bunch of tiny crinkles every time I wash it, and I have to iron it out and spray-starch it to get it to behave nicely. Note that these are not starched ruffs in the formal figure eights, just small ruffles. The new linen one is cut with the long edge of the ruffle on the long grain of the fabric (parallel to the selvedge), which is what Arnold noted in her study of existing 17th-century ruffs. Even in the horrifying heat and humidity--I think I got wet in the rain, too--that ruffle stayed nice and sproingy (that's a technical term). Even though it will soften with repeated washings, I think the relative stiffness of the linen and the strength of the grain will help hold it out better than the cotton one. Melanie Schuessler On Aug 13, 2007, at 12:54 PM, otsisto wrote: Small note for the future. Coleman makes battery operated tent ceiling fans. :) -Original Message- Definitely too much rain. When not raining, too much heat and humidity! But I had a great time all the same. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] help with fashion parade?
The Way We Wore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A Gardiner-Garden Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:36 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] help with fashion parade? I'm trying to think of catchy names for a historical fashion parade - showing under and outer garments from the last 500 years. Any ideas? And ideas how to go about it? It will be held in public next year - I'm trying to put a proposal together. Thanks, Aylwen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Demara sugar, Was Ice
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Helen Pinto wrote: I was in my local supermarket this afternoon getting baking soda for the fridge, and guess what was on the shelf next to the brown sugar and confectioners' sugar? Re-sealable pound sacks of Domino brand Demerara sugar for $2.29. This is not an upscale foodie market, just a regular Giant Eagle. Yours may have it, too. In the last few years I've seen it at some supermarkets. (Haven't seen the bags here in St. Louis; the local stores tried the Domino tube packets, and discontinued them; I think no one here had any idea what they'd be used for.) Even so, it's sold at gourmet prices. Domino's line is cheaper than most, but it's still pretty expensive. Right now, at Tesco (the UK equivalent of Giant), a kilo bag of demerara is as low as 1.09 pounds sterling -- which translates to about 90 cents US per pound (weight). For comparison, at Tesco the white granulated sugar is 72 pence per kilo (64 cents per pound), and brown sugar is 99 pence per kilo (89 cents per pound). So it's barely more expensive than other sugars in the UK. (I'm quoting the cheapest store-brand price on all of these.) In the U.S., food prices are generally lower, and I get white sugar for 40 cents per pound, and brown sugar for 50 cents per pound when I catch a sale. So $2.29 per pound bag of demerara makes it a luxury sugar. Fortunately I see British friends at least once a year, and someone usually has a bag of demerara stashed in their luggage for me. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Save the date -- Oregon lecture event
(OK to forward this post to individuals and other lists.) For those who may be interested: I'll be doing a day of lectures in Eugene, Oregon, on Saturday, October 20. The official announcement is due out soon, and I'll update the list when it's posted, but I figured some people might need the extra notice. I'll be speaking on these topics: -- The Gothic Fitted Dress -- The Greenland Gored Gown -- The Fifteenth-Century V-neck Gown -- When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume Sources -- Saintly Inspiration: Using Medieval Religious Figures for Costume Research (I realize many of you have already seen some of these lectures, but then, apparently plenty of people haven't, as this was what the hosting group requested!) This is half of a two-day event. On Sunday, October 21, the speaker will be Tammie Dupuis of The Renaissance Tailor. I do not know her topics, I'm afraid. I have no idea what the fee will be or whether you pay for the two days separately or both together. When the announcement comes, we'll all find out. However, if you want to be on the waiting list and get direct notification, you can send a request to Jamie Parker, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . More when I know more. == Robin Netherton Editor, Medieval Clothing and Textiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] re:iced drinks
I went to England the first week of June (great trip but too short) with a school trip from Atlanta and I was surprised to find that in most of the restaurants I was able to get Diet Coke with one ice cube and a slice of lemon--just the way I like it and never asked for it that way. Most drinks are cold from the fountain/dispenser so I didn't need extra ice. However, we did have one from our group ask for sweet iced tea and it caused a major production number. The Georgian was able to get the sweet iced tea but when our tour guide wanted one to try that seemed to have been a major act of treason and they refused to serve him one. At least I was able to get Coke as a back up option but at home I drink Diet Coke 1/2 the time, sweet tea 1/2 the time. You think it's hard finding sweet tea North of the Mason-Dixon line? Try finding sweet tea in Florida! Once you get south of the panhandle you are no longer in the South as far as food and drink are concerned. I did run into one nice waiter in Orlando who was from Georgia and he agreed to make me a pitcher of sweet tea. He got a nice tip! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] help with fashion parade?
WE I was going to suggest, The once and future fashion but my goodness...If I were picking, The Way We Wore is much much better. oh wait...nobody asked me to vote.., still Sharon, that is Brilliant! Bambi Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Way We Wore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A Gardiner-Garden Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:36 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] help with fashion parade? I'm trying to think of catchy names for a historical fashion parade - showing under and outer garments from the last 500 years. Any ideas? And ideas how to go about it? It will be held in public next year - I'm trying to put a proposal together. Thanks, Aylwen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help with fashion parade?
Isn't that already a book? would there be any copyright problems using it? Lynn On 8/19/07, Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Way We Wore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A Gardiner-Garden Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:36 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] help with fashion parade? I'm trying to think of catchy names for a historical fashion parade - showing under and outer garments from the last 500 years. Any ideas? And ideas how to go about it? It will be held in public next year - I'm trying to put a proposal together. Thanks, Aylwen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help with fashion parade?
I agree, I liked it a lot! I just wondered no flame meant. Luckily, Sharon knows me and knows I wouldn't get snippy at her. Lynn On 8/20/07, Bambi TBNL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: WE I was going to suggest, The once and future fashion but my goodness...If I were picking, The Way We Wore is much much better. oh wait...nobody asked me to vote.., still Sharon, that is Brilliant! Bambi Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Way We Wore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A Gardiner-Garden Sent: Friday, August 17, 2007 3:36 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] help with fashion parade? I'm trying to think of catchy names for a historical fashion parade - showing under and outer garments from the last 500 years. Any ideas? And ideas how to go about it? It will be held in public next year - I'm trying to put a proposal together. Thanks, Aylwen ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] linen , the question
Question, Does anyone have (for lack of a better term) a recipe for setting pleats in linen with vinegar? I know it can be done..I know the Ancient Egyptians did it to crystal pleat their shear linen, and I know the Turks seemed to have it down in the 16th c to do their shirts but i have no idea what the proportions might be the the general concept of breaking down the cellulose ,to then set what ever it was you were setting and then rinse it out, is a sound chemical concept. Oh and anyone have sources for sheer linen? Bambi Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I put thin fishing line in the outside edge of the ruffle of my new chemise. Went through the wash just fine, just needed a little finger tweaking, dripped dry. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melanie Schuessler Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 1:41 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] linen vs. cotton; was: Just a test Ooh. I'm not much of a camper, but I've already got plans for next time to make things a bit better. I'll add that to the list. On a costume note, I would like to once again put in a vote for linen over cotton as being the coolest thing around when it's ghastly hot. I could definitely tell the difference between my old cotton chemises and my new linen ones! And my new kirtles are all linen as well, thank goodness. Also, though I haven't put it through the wash a bunch of times yet, I have hopes for my new linen shirt, which has a ruffle at the top of the collar. My old cotton one turns into a bunch of tiny crinkles every time I wash it, and I have to iron it out and spray-starch it to get it to behave nicely. Note that these are not starched ruffs in the formal figure eights, just small ruffles. The new linen one is cut with the long edge of the ruffle on the long grain of the fabric (parallel to the selvedge), which is what Arnold noted in her study of existing 17th-century ruffs. Even in the horrifying heat and humidity--I think I got wet in the rain, too--that ruffle stayed nice and sproingy (that's a technical term). Even though it will soften with repeated washings, I think the relative stiffness of the linen and the strength of the grain will help hold it out better than the cotton one. Melanie Schuessler On Aug 13, 2007, at 12:54 PM, otsisto wrote: Small note for the future. Coleman makes battery operated tent ceiling fans. :) -Original Message- Definitely too much rain. When not raining, too much heat and humidity! But I had a great time all the same. Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] help with fashion parade?
--- Bambi TBNL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to suggest, The once and future fashion but my goodness...If I were picking, The Way We Wore is much much better. oh wait...nobody asked me to vote.., still Sharon, that is Brilliant! Bambi Sharon Collier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Way We Wore Costume-Con 18, in Hartford, CT, a few years back, had the Once and Future Fashion Show, with the Historical Masquerade (a costume contest) and the Future Fashion Folio Fashion show, and a few other little odds ends. Very successful show, and nobody had to get organized to attend 'another' show. Ann in CT Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Save the date -- Oregon lecture event
I took the first 3 lectures listed here, plus Robin's sideless surcoat class, and they and she are AWESOME!! :-D Also of note, if anyone's going to be in the Portland OR area the weekend prior--the Rivers campus of the University of Ithra will be hosting a Roving To Rainment Ithra Oct 13-14. For more information, check back at www.ithra.antir.sca.org The info will be going up soon. All classes are pre-registration, and you will be able to register online. It's going to be a great week for costuming, folks! Robin, do you know if people are going to be able to register for the separate lectures? Arlys, Regent, Rivers Ithra On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 16:41:19 -0500 (CDT) Robin Netherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: (OK to forward this post to individuals and other lists.) For those who may be interested: I'll be doing a day of lectures in Eugene, Oregon, on Saturday, October 20. The official announcement is due out soon, and I'll update the list when it's posted, but I figured some people might need the extra notice. I'll be speaking on these topics: -- The Gothic Fitted Dress -- The Greenland Gored Gown -- The Fifteenth-Century V-neck Gown -- When Medieval Meets Victorian: The Roots of Modern Costume Sources -- Saintly Inspiration: Using Medieval Religious Figures for Costume Research (I realize many of you have already seen some of these lectures, but then, apparently plenty of people haven't, as this was what the hosting group requested!) This is half of a two-day event. On Sunday, October 21, the speaker will be Tammie Dupuis of The Renaissance Tailor. I do not know her topics, I'm afraid. I have no idea what the fee will be or whether you pay for the two days separately or both together. When the announcement comes, we'll all find out. However, if you want to be on the waiting list and get direct notification, you can send a request to Jamie Parker, [EMAIL PROTECTED] . More when I know more. == Robin Netherton Editor, Medieval Clothing and Textiles [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Coffee, not just for house plants
The posting regarding coffee and tea left-overs on plants reminds me of using them as dyes (I have taken white elastic to a skin-tone with tea); The story that really came to mind, though, comes from an old friend who was stationed in Darwin (northern Australia) early in World War Two. There was little belief the Japanese would attack the mainland so little preparation was made and sailors mostly wore thier bright tropical whites. After the first attack on Darwin, requests were made to naval headquarters for less visible uniforms for combat conditions. Headquarters sent back the simple signal, boil all uniforms in coffee grounds, -C. This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] help with fashion parade?
Lynn Downward wrote: Isn't that already a book? would there be any copyright problems using it? AFAIK titles are not subject to copyrights. Hence the number of books titled Costume. http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ34.html Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Coffee, not just for house plants
In a message dated 8/20/2007 9:10:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: After the first attack on Darwin, requests were made to naval headquarters for less visible uniforms for combat conditions. Headquarters sent back the simple signal, boil all uniforms in coffee grounds, * I love stories like that. When I was working on a show that took place in 1865 in Georgia after the War had ended. The designer wanted most of the women in black, because just about everyone had lost someone in the War and was in mourning of some kind. Some of the gowns were made from plaids and florals and then overdyed with a black-brown. The idea was women who had lost almost everything because of the war...including family members... were dying their regular things with black walnut husks for mourning. ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Save the date -- Oregon lecture event
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007, Cynthia J Ley wrote: I took the first 3 lectures listed here, plus Robin's sideless surcoat class, and they and she are AWESOME!! :-D blush Robin, do you know if people are going to be able to register for the separate lectures? No clue. Yet. I'll let you all know more when I know more. (I just show up with my slides and notes and costumes and pray there's a projector, screen, and coffee.) --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: coffee
Allison, My mother taught to just add them to the soil's surface. We always added it after the coffee grounds had cooled. I have had some house plants for over 20 years. I have a very green thumb. When I decided to go back to college, my decision between majors was horticulture or fashion. I decided for fashion because I hate working in the heat of August. Here are two photos of my latest pride and joys from my garden. ***9 ft. cannas and 10 ft. tall sunflower. Neither have been fertilized. My son standing in-between the flowers is 6 ft. tall: http://www.costumegallery.com/flowers/P1060106lg.jpg ***Zinnias and butterfly: http://www.costumegallery.com/flowers/P1010010lg.jpg Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: coffee
On Monday 20 August 2007, Penny Ladnier wrote: [snip] I have a very green thumb. When I decided to go back to college, my decision between majors was horticulture or fashion. I decided for fashion because I hate working in the heat of August. Here are two photos of my latest pride and joys from my garden. ***9 ft. cannas and 10 ft. tall sunflower. Neither have been fertilized. Kudos! I have the world's blackest thumb, myself; I can kill spider plants without really trying. -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You've got to have the proper amount of disrespect for what you do. -- George Mabry ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
