Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread penny1a 
Audy,

The article about the teenage boys' wear is really interesting and discusses
all the different styles of sports shirts that they were wearing.  Some of
the styles merged into a new style.  Western wear was also popular during
this time frame.  There were 4-5 styles going on at the time.

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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread penny1a 
These industry articles are about what will be on the market in Dec. 1968 -
March 1969.

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Re: [h-cost] Jean Hunnisett regency stays pattern

2012-01-23 Thread albertcat 
I believe it says what the sizes of everything is at the beginning of the book.



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 I've not used that specific pattern but I have used several others.  When 
scaled up to full size they run in the small end of sizing.  She was generally 
making patterns for actresses who run towards the petite end of things.

  Maggie H.

 

 

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Subject: [h-cost] Jean Hunnisett regency stays pattern


Has anyone here made this pattern up? I was wondering what the
expected bust / waist / hip measurements were.
Many thanks,
Aylwen

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Re: [h-cost] Jean Hunnisett regency stays pattern

2012-01-23 Thread Maggie Halberg 

 I've not used that specific pattern but I have used several others.  When 
scaled up to full size they run in the small end of sizing.  She was generally 
making patterns for actresses who run towards the petite end of things.

  Maggie H.

 

 

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From: Aylwen Gardiner-Garden 
To: Historical Costume 
Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2012 7:32 pm
Subject: [h-cost] Jean Hunnisett regency stays pattern


Has anyone here made this pattern up? I was wondering what the
expected bust / waist / hip measurements were.
Many thanks,
Aylwen

Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy
www.earthlydelights.com.au
http://edhda.eventbrite.com
http://aylwen.blogspot.com
http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au
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[h-cost] Jean Hunnisett regency stays pattern

2012-01-23 Thread Aylwen Gardiner-Garden 
Has anyone here made this pattern up? I was wondering what the
expected bust / waist / hip measurements were.
Many thanks,
Aylwen

Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy
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http://edhda.eventbrite.com
http://aylwen.blogspot.com
http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au
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Re: [h-cost] OT- shop machines

2012-01-23 Thread Kim Baird 
It's the Bernina 1008



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Do you know the model number of that mechanical bernina?  I'd sure like to
try one out.

Sg



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Re: [h-cost] OT- shop machines

2012-01-23 Thread Wicked Frau 
Do you know the model number of that mechanical bernina?  I'd sure like to
try one out.

Sg

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Kim Baird  wrote:

> A lot of schools have Janome, but I can't see using anything but Bernina,
> if
> you want things that work well and can take abuse.
> I love the computerized machines, but Bernina still makes an all mechanical
> model that does everything, they even make a treadle.
> It is true that you want a good dealer, esp. if you have a "fleet" of
> machines that need maintenance.
> I haven't checked out sergers lately, but I can tell you that none of the
> big machine companies manufacture their own. They have them made in Asia,
> to
> their specifications. Baby Lock, Bernette or Juki would be good ones to
> look
> at.
> Personally, I would never buy a Singer or a White machine of any kind.
> Kim
>
> -Original Message-
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> Behalf Of Kathryn Pinner
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:05 AM
> To: Historical Costume
> Subject: [h-cost] OT- shop machines
>
>  For those of you who run costume shops:
> What do you recommend for teaching basic sewing skills? Machines that will
> stand up to student abuse? Basic machines and also sergers?
>
>
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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread AVCHASE 
Penny, just a guess on "apache" 1968. A typical fashion throwback to the 
30's-40's apache dancers? Not at all American Indian like. Also in that era I 
remember making some sport shirts,about early 70's, not like anything available 
commercially, of very wildly colored prints that resembled American Indian 
motifs. Resembled is the key word. The boys loved them.Audy.


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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread Marjorie Wilser 
It's like color names. The industry names them something from history  
that has no particular meaning except for novelty (to differentiate  
from other manufacturers' product names). IMHO of course :)



==M

On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:29 AM,  > wrote(in part):


I always thought that apache scarves were named after the American  
Indians.

Prior, I wondered why after them.  BTW, apache is not capitalized.


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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread AVCHASE 
Size. The little guys are usually trained by three. From an earlier era, the 
50's, that was when they could be put into the more useful play and dress 
clothes. At about age five or six (they always seemed to be younger then the 
indicated size) they jumped to 8's and 10's. just experience speaking. Audy

in the high boonies of Central Texas


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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread Marjorie Wilser 
I had a boy in 1969, and sizes were SAID to indicate age. It wasn't  
particularly true, no more than it has ever been.


At age three, he wore a 3 jean for length, but I had to buy a "slim"  
and take them in. No butt to hold them up!


I wore what they called a 6x at age 5. No idea what the x meant, but  
that predated 1968 by a lotta years :)


==Marjorie

On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:41 AM,  > wrote:


I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing  
industry
trade journal.  Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7.   
The
article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes.  Below is a little  
from the

article:


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Re: [h-cost] OT- shop machines

2012-01-23 Thread Kim Baird 
A lot of schools have Janome, but I can't see using anything but Bernina, if
you want things that work well and can take abuse.
I love the computerized machines, but Bernina still makes an all mechanical
model that does everything, they even make a treadle.
It is true that you want a good dealer, esp. if you have a "fleet" of
machines that need maintenance.
I haven't checked out sergers lately, but I can tell you that none of the
big machine companies manufacture their own. They have them made in Asia, to
their specifications. Baby Lock, Bernette or Juki would be good ones to look
at.
Personally, I would never buy a Singer or a White machine of any kind.
Kim

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From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Kathryn Pinner
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 10:05 AM
To: Historical Costume
Subject: [h-cost] OT- shop machines

 For those of you who run costume shops:
What do you recommend for teaching basic sewing skills? Machines that will
stand up to student abuse? Basic machines and also sergers?


Kate Pinner


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[h-cost] OT- shop machines

2012-01-23 Thread Kathryn Pinner 
 For those of you who run costume shops:
What do you recommend for teaching basic sewing skills? Machines that will 
stand up to student abuse? Basic machines and also sergers?


Kate Pinner


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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread Land of Oz 
I agree with Ann. In an industry reference it would definitely be SIZE not 
age.


Denise
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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread annbwass 



Gotta be age.

I beg to differ. Since we are talking about the INDUSTRY, surely size is what 
counts, not age. 3-7 is the range for "child" sizes.

BTW, seems a good opportunity to announce the release of Dr. Jo Paoletti's 
book, "Pink and Blue: Telling the Boys from the Girls in America," (Indian 
University Press, 2012).  She looks at the 1880s to the present, so Penny might 
find it useful. 

Ann Wass



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Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:48 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear


Gotta be age. (Which to some degree, supposedly corresponds to size)
Yours in cosutming,Lisa A

n Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:41:09 -0500  writes:
 I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing 
 industry
 trade journal.  Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7.  
 The
 article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes.  Below is a little 
 from the
 article:
 
  
 
 "For more years than they like to remember, the bane of the 
 existence of 3-7
 makers was price.  It reached a certain point.and then stayed there. 
   Then
 along came the family revolution in men's wear.and the boys' wear 
 people
 jumped right into the fray.  Even 3-7 houses, in their own separate 
 world,
 couldn't stand idly by."
 
  
 
 What do you think?  Age or size?
 
  
 
 Penny Ladnier, owner
 
 The Costume Gallery Websites
 
   www.costumegallery.com
 
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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread lisa58 
Gotta be age. (Which to some degree, supposedly corresponds to size)

Yours in cosutming,Lisa A
 
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:41:09 -0500  writes:
> I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing 
> industry
> trade journal.  Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7.  
> The
> article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes.  Below is a little 
> from the
> article:
> 
>  
> 
> "For more years than they like to remember, the bane of the 
> existence of 3-7
> makers was price.  It reached a certain point.and then stayed there. 
>   Then
> along came the family revolution in men's wear.and the boys' wear 
> people
> jumped right into the fray.  Even 3-7 houses, in their own separate 
> world,
> couldn't stand idly by."
> 
>  
> 
> What do you think?  Age or size?
> 
>  
> 
> Penny Ladnier, owner
> 
> The Costume Gallery Websites
> 
>   www.costumegallery.com
> 
> 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history
> 
> FaceBook:
>

>
http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/10749841596157
9 
> 
> 
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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread penny1a 
I am working on another article from the same journal about teenage boy's
fashion.  Came across an interesting statement about their sport shirts:

"On the other hand, apache (which, incidentally, refers to the traditional
Parisian thug, not the American Indian) is what they're calling any shirt
that comes with a scarf."

I always thought that apache scarves were named after the American Indians.
Prior, I wondered why after them.  BTW, apache is not capitalized. 

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Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread Sharon Collier 
At that age, they are often the same. A three yr old will wear a size 3,
etc. Kids used to be skinnier. If the child was overweight, it went into
"chubby" sizes, or 6 and 6x, for example.

Sharon C.
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Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 2:41 AM
To: h-costume
Subject: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing industry
trade journal.  Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7.  The
article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes.  Below is a little from the
article:

 

"For more years than they like to remember, the bane of the existence of 3-7
makers was price.  It reached a certain point.and then stayed there.   Then
along came the family revolution in men's wear.and the boys' wear people
jumped right into the fray.  Even 3-7 houses, in their own separate world,
couldn't stand idly by."

 

What do you think?  Age or size?

 

Penny Ladnier, owner

The Costume Gallery Websites

  www.costumegallery.com

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[h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear

2012-01-23 Thread penny1a 
I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing industry
trade journal.  Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7.  The
article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes.  Below is a little from the
article:

 

"For more years than they like to remember, the bane of the existence of 3-7
makers was price.  It reached a certain point.and then stayed there.   Then
along came the family revolution in men's wear.and the boys' wear people
jumped right into the fray.  Even 3-7 houses, in their own separate world,
couldn't stand idly by."

 

What do you think?  Age or size?

 

Penny Ladnier, owner

The Costume Gallery Websites

  www.costumegallery.com

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