Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians
I think that it may be Ravenrook who prints the patterns now. http://www.ravenrook.com/ Sharon On 25/10/13 3:24 AM, Kathleen Norvell wrote: La Mode Bagatelle went out of business a couple of years ago and I don't know who bought their patterns. I have the Regency Wardrobe pattern package, which I've used several times and like. The instructions are pretty good -- better than most of its ilk. It was worth the price. I haven't used this one, but I have a friend who did and I think she was happy with it. Kathleen -Original Message- From: Marjorie wilserthe3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costumeh-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2013 10:03 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians Yeek. Just looked at the price! How familiar are you with the company (not mazon DG, the pattern produceer)? ==Marjorie (swooning from sticker shock) ent from my amazing iPad On Oct 24, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kathleen Norvellapp...@aol.com wrote: This was the pattern I was thinking of when I mentioned Aesthetic Dress -- rtistic Reform is another term for it. I did not know if the pattern was still vailable. It's a beautiful, authentic Victorian gown. Kathleen -Original Message- From: Wicked Frauwickedf...@gmail.com To: Historical Costumeh-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Oct 24, 2013 10:08 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Boning and corsets for musicians Unboned corsets work fabulously. I use them for riding. Also, you might want to look into this: http://www.amazondrygoods.com/products/la-mode-bagatelle-victorian-artistic-reform-tea-gowns.html ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Anglo Saxon Cyrtel page
Hi, If it is the page I think it is, a few months ago spent some time trying to find it again with no luck. I just tried http://home.insight.rr.com/cains/documentation/spin.html in the way back machine at http://www.archive.org/index.php and some of it is coming up this time. Unfortunately not all of the photos are doing so. Sharon Nevin chimene Hello, I'm trying to find information on a re-enactor's page. This woman did an amazing project of handspinning, dying, weaving and hand sewing a Dark Ages tunic dress. It was wonderfully photographed, and informative. However, I can't find the page! Every link I find comes to a dead end. Does anyone else remember this project, and was it backed up anywhere? Did this woman eventually start a blog of her handwork? This is especially necessary for me since I cite her work when I do spinning and weaving demos. Thanks, Stacey ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Embroidered Jacket
There is a detail of the back (unfortunately not the full back) in Embroidery in Britain 1200-1750 Part II: Post-Reformation by Santina Levey pg 145 Hali Annual 1 It is a 38 x 28 cm section of the back reduced to 15 x 14.5 cm. Unfortunately there is nothing to determine exactly where on the back it is. I can make out some stitch detail. Someone with better eyesight may make out more. Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Embroidered Jacket
I just thought to check the back of the annual after hitting send. The article of Embroidery in Britain is extracted from the longer text that appeared in Donald King and Santina Levey, The Victoria Albert Museum's Textile collection: Embroidery in Britain from 1200 to 1750, London 1993 Given that the article in the Hali Annual is only 11 pages, longer text might be an understatement. The book may or may not have more shots. Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] [ h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
Thank you to those who gave time frame suggestions as well as links and stories- I find people's clothing stories very interesting. My early twentieth century history isn't that strong and I think shows it up. I think I might see what the local academic libraries have on the 1930s and 1940s to see if I can find what the real styles where link. Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What period is this Butterick from?
Hi, This is slightly off-topic but I'm curious and I figured this list would probably be best to answer. The latest fall Buttericks are out and there is one Making History pattern. Usually I can guess where they have drawn their inspiration from and what period that they are imitating but this is one is puzzling me. If you had to assign a time period what date would you give for this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5405.htm?tab=costumespage=1 Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1940s patterns
If you can, get hold of Australian home Journals or even do an ebay search for them to look at the covers. I believe they could help you. They were issued monthly and came with 2 or 3 patterns and had various articles on dress and home economic related things. The patterns were mostly dresses and occasional childrens clothes. I have seen the originals that some of the Simplicity retro reissues are based on up for sale on ebay. I have not seen those two particular patterns. Some of the Simplicity Retro are more inspired by the era, some are actually based on a pattern for that period. Occasionally I search ebay to find the original covers to compare the reissues to. I would like to buy the original vintage pattern but it hasn't been happening. The main difference bet ween vintage and reissues is the different block or sloper they are working from. From the comments I have read, simplicity's fit of reissued vintage pattern is dicier then vogues. Simplicity tends to bit a bit more intepretive. There are some difference between Vogue reissues and originals too but they are not as major. There are som bloggers who have compared the originals to reissues patterns but all the examples I have seen are from the 50s. The skirt in 4044 is very similar to a skirt vogue reissued pattern. I currently have a cat on my lap so can't check . If you are interested in the number I can dig it up later. I would normally move the cat but he is recovering from surgery and I haven't the heart to move him as he is being that much of a sook. Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: Dress and textile topics, medieval Britain: Your
Most of what I thought is more dress accessories but it might be of some use. For earlier in the period I thought of : - wrist clasps - maybe an entry or something parpahenalia commonly hanging off belts like toiletries, shears, keys, knives, amulets, pouches, crystal balls etc - regional variations. I'm thinking particularly of Kent and the different placement of brooches in the grave that some have suggested to indicate a open robe as well as the various influence saxons, anglian, jutes etc had on dress. - coloured veils - dress pins -Then there is: - hooks and eyes - buttons - toggles - pilgrim badges, funerary badges - braids (various techniques used to make them, finishing, gummed edges etc) - ribbons - ecclesiastical garments and clothing of monks, nuns, priests and their changes over the period - servant livery - robes, chains, and badges of office - leather - opus anglicanum - jewellery (brooches, ear rings, finger rings, pendant, necklaces, bracelets etc.) - belt buckles, stap ends Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Demara sugar, Was Ice
At 10:54 AM 20/08/2007, you wrote: So what is Demara sugar anyway? Sugar in the Raw is cane sugar from Hawaii that is not as refined as white sugar...so has some molasses still in it. Is I have no idea what the equivalent of demara for the US is (or anywhere apart from UK/NZ/Australia) but this (UK) webpage has a list of definitions for various sugars and syrups. http://www.deliaonline.com/ingredients/sugars-and-syrups,244,IN.html But it doesn't list Raw sugar though. Maybe raw is golden granulated and golden caster? Just thinking that because I've seen every other sugar listed there sold in Australia except golden and with the addition of raw sugar. Sharon Can you starch a ruff with any of this? [trying to tie it into costuming, y'know] The idea of a starching a ruff with demara just brings to my mind a possible side effect of sugar waxing. Sharon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Vogue Tags/Label Was: Urgent question about 1927 outfit
At 01:44 AM 13/08/2007, you wrote: This link has a picture of the Vogue tag up in the left hand corner. Anyone remember when you used to buy these patterns, they would give you a really nice woven tag/label? Anyone know what happened to that practice? Sg I recieved tags for all 4 vintage vogues I purchased in June (in Australia), but that doesn't exclude the tages being left over stock though. They were automatically included in the patterns I bought. It was a higher end fabric store as well. Sharon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
re: [h-cost] 2002-4 fashions
Burda magazine might be helpful if you can find a library with back issues. There is an archive at http://www.burdamode.com but it only goes back to the start of 2004. To access the archive though you need to keep the page in german at the start, select magazine from the lefthand side which will display items under that cantegory. You want the Archiv von burda Modemagazin which is next to the picture composed of lots of magazine covers. This will bring up the list of all issues that are archived. I've just checked and it looks like 2004 is archived in german only but the pictures are there as are the Technische Zeichnung (technical drawings). The only problem with using burda is that some patterns show up in Burda before they do in mass ready to wear. I might be noticing that only because I'm living in Australia. Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Book Opinion
At 01:32 AM 22/01/2007, you wrote: Someone mentioned receiving the following book as part of the h-costume gift exchange: Everlasting: The Flower in Fashion and Textiles (fabric, lace, and beautiful garments) It sounds as if it fits in perfectly with a topic I've been researching for several years, basically the effect of the study of botany primarily by women on both clothing and home fashion. I found the book online, but shipping is more than three times the cost of the book! I'm assuming you found it at the NGV site. I always found their postage prices to be some what inflated. Postage and Packaging should be around au$5.00 unregistered for it to be sent overseas given it's weight and size. It would be really helpful to have the opinion of someone who's actually seen the book as to the content before I order. The first 3 pages are intro to the exhibition itself. Then there are 8 pages on specific garments with one garment per page. Most of that page is taken up by a photograph of the garment (not the entire garment just a detailed shot) followed bya paragraph with details on the garment as well as a sentance or two on the more generalised history of that garment style. Finally there is a 9-page essay (including photos) on the Flower in Fashion and Textiles by Dr Peter McNeil, Head of the School of Art History and Theory at the univeristy of NSW. This does have 8 footnotes so is not unreferenced as such. It does cover from the Renaissance onwards so covers a lot of time in very short space and does make brief references to developments in horticulture. There are a few more pages of photos and a listing of garments in the exhibition. I found it an interesting read combining the subjects but 1600s onwards is not my forte for historic costuming and so a lot of the information presented in the booklet was new to me. It may be a bit basic as you have background knowledge here already. The photography is good. The only garment shown in full is an elizabethan coif, the rest are detail shots. To answer you question I don't think it would be worth paying that much for shipping for the book. If you have non-credit card paypal I could pick you up a copy if you are interested (email me off list if so please). Hope that helps Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] white embroidery
Hi, The pillowcase is absolutely lovely, thank you for sharing. Distilled water is the best water to use for washing old textiles but I also would reccomend first talking to a conservator who deals with this sort of work at a museum to see what they would suggest. Sharon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: multiple copies Re: [h-cost] Re: Have you seen this painting?
At 10:21 AM 1/01/2006, you wrote: Holbein's Jane Seymour for instance;) http://www.artcyclopedia.com/commons/hans-holbein-the-younger.html (Though there is a third somewhere.) I thought there was four? IIRC Janet Arnold in a Handbook of Costume has the different portraits side by side. Sharon Nevin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cotton Fabrics and substitutes for Edwardian underthings.
English cambric is slightly heavier than Liberty weight lawn, as far as I know. However, mostly you cannot buy fabric in England by weight, so I cannot be more specific. I've only seen fabric sold by weight from american suppliers, but cotton poplin (in a range of qualities) is easily available here (Australia) so that's extremely helpful. Thanks Sharon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Cotton Fabrics and substitutes for Edwardian underthings.
Hi, I have a book from the very 1900s which is for cutting out of underthings. Im planning on starting making some of them and having a little trouble figuring out modern substitutes for fabric mentioned. I haven't made anything from this time frame (or the preceeding century), a fact which I don't think is helping. Calico and longcloth are mentioned quite a bit, I'm assuming the calico here is nothing like the calico I can buy in Australia (or more accurately the stuff you get in most fabric stores here, the calico I have in kits from the UK seems to be of a far better quality). What would I be looking for in terms of weave etc - although I'm not sure that this would help at the moment as the book describes the individual fabrics reasonable well in these terms but I can't seem to translate it to reality. Names of substitutes would possibly be better Cambric is also mentioned, and I'm wondering if anybody could, again, suggest substitutes please. Is it anything like a decent cotton lawn (like what liberty and liberty-like prints use)? If it is of any help I'm looking at making things like combinations, camisoles, petticoat bodices, american drawers and the like with a reasonable amount of handsewing (using the machine only for the long seams). Thank you, Sharon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cotton Fabrics and substitutes for Edwardian underthings.
At 02:24 PM 3/10/2005, you wrote: What is the book you are using? Cutting Out for Student Teachers by Amy K. Smith. 3rd Edition. Printed By Sir Isaac Pitman Sons, London. 1916. I got lucky on Australian ebay and found an original copy for au$30.00. The only changes between this edition and the 1904 edition is addition of two patterns plus changes to the letterpress in terms of clarifying instructions and updating of exams. It's basically 256 pages on teaching cutting out of and patterns for underclothing (ladies, children, and men's shirts) There is certainly a larger number of authentic options than this, but anyway you've got the idea. Thank you for your suggestions Sharon ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
