Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
Thanks, Wanda! I was lucky in that the outfit matches itself: scarf, tunic & skirt, which is amazing since it is long enough for me, and I am tall. I have a choli cut out to go with lovely sari that came unaccompanied, but have not made it. I took the pattern from a thrift store find which (again, amazingly) fit my actual bust, even though it was worn out and barely usable when found. I found my first sari in the "curtain" department of the thrift store. They soon learned better! ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Nov 3, 2012, at 9:30 PM, Wanda Pease wrote: I tend to find these at my local Thrift stores too. Frequently the pants have gotten separated from the rest of the outfit (found one pair in pajamas!). Sometimes they never show, but the tunic is long and full enough that I wear it as a dress and scarf anyway. Since I no longer have to conform, i. e. I can be excentric, I can wear it to work and get compliments from the young folk. I'd say you have parts.of a Salwar/Kameze outfit. You could make pants for it. The pants don't always match in color says my friend from Pakistan. Wanda ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
I tend to find these at my local Thrift stores too. Frequently the pants have gotten separated from the rest of the outfit (found one pair in pajamas!). Sometimes they never show, but the tunic is long and full enough that I wear it as a dress and scarf anyway. Since I no longer have to conform, i. e. I can be excentric, I can wear it to work and get compliments from the young folk. I'd say you have parts.of a Salwar/Kameze outfit. You could make pants for it. The pants don't always match in color says my friend from Pakistan. Wanda Sent from my iPad On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Marion McNealy wrote: > And here are some other ones, http://www.utsavfashion.com/lehenga > > - Marion > > > > From: Marjorie Wilser > To: Historical Costume > Sent: Thu, November 1, 2012 2:16:50 AM > Subject: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. > > In the interest of historical costume, modern version: > > I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the South > Bay > (San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's "Punjabi suit" consisting of > tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no pants. There is a long, even on > me > (5'10) flowing skirt. It's obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion > embroidery on the front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all > over > the skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an > abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk. Lined > throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall and had only to > steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset under the arms. > > Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm definitely > voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking perhaps it might be > some very formal outfit due to the heavy embroidery. I don't think this list > takes attachments, but I do have a pic to post. . . somewhere, or send to > whomever is interested. > > Thanks! > > ==Marjorie Wilser > > @..@ @..@ @..@ > Three Toad Press > http://3toad.blogspot.com/ > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
Oh yes, Utsav is one of my favorite places to shop. :) - Marion From: Marjorie Wilser To: Historical Costume Sent: Thu, November 1, 2012 9:29:21 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. And did you look under the jewelry tab?? whoa! :) ==Marjorie Wilser ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Woweee! :) Thanks! ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Nov 1, 2012, at 10:03 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: Hmm. This place calls them "long choli" lehenga: http://www.cbazaar.com/readymade-lehenga/long_choli_lehenga-specialty/c-sb.html - Original Message - From: "Marjorie Wilser" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:15:43 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. Lauren, Thanks for the link!! Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) ==Marjorie Wilser On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: It's a lehenga choli. http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ The "Punjabi pantsuit" is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often used for bridal wear. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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And did you look under the jewelry tab?? whoa! :) ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Nov 1, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Marion McNealy wrote: And here are some other ones, http://www.utsavfashion.com/lehenga ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
Teena, That makes entire sense to me. The SF Bay area is rife with various ethnicities. Many thanks for digging around in my behalf! I haven't been home since this morning and getting home to this news is really cool! ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On Nov 1, 2012, at 9:40 AM, Beteena Paradise wrote: I found something. Someone on a forum or something like that was asking about a Kameez Lengha (sometimes spelled lahenga) which is the tunic with the skirt. I guess Lengha means skirt. Anyway, they were saying that this was the Pakistani style as opposed to the lengha choli which is more of an Indian style. So maybe your outfit is Pakastani? Teena ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Doesn't matter. I myself am an artifact sufficiently historic to excuse all. - Original Message - From: "Lavolta Press" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:57:41 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. Marjorie, Are these historic garments, or is this an inappropriately non-historic discussion? Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com On 11/1/2012 9:15 AM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: > Lauren, Thanks for the link!! > > Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and > not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* > and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. > > I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm > unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) > > ==Marjorie Wilser > > On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: > >> >> >> It's a lehenga choli. >> >> http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ >> >> >> >> The "Punjabi pantsuit" is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli >> is often used for bridal wear. >> > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
Hmm. This place calls them "long choli" lehenga: http://www.cbazaar.com/readymade-lehenga/long_choli_lehenga-specialty/c-sb.html - Original Message - From: "Marjorie Wilser" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:15:43 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. Lauren, Thanks for the link!! Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) ==Marjorie Wilser On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: > > > It's a lehenga choli. > > http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ > > > > The "Punjabi pantsuit" is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli > is often used for bridal wear. > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
Marjorie, Are these historic garments, or is this an inappropriately non-historic discussion? Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com On 11/1/2012 9:15 AM, Marjorie Wilser wrote: Lauren, Thanks for the link!! Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) ==Marjorie Wilser On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: It's a lehenga choli. http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ The "Punjabi pantsuit" is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often used for bridal wear. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
I found something. Someone on a forum or something like that was asking about a Kameez Lengha (sometimes spelled lahenga) which is the tunic with the skirt. I guess Lengha means skirt. Anyway, they were saying that this was the Pakistani style as opposed to the lengha choli which is more of an Indian style. So maybe your outfit is Pakastani? Teena From: Marjorie Wilser To: Historical Costume Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. Lauren, Thanks for the link!! Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) ==Marjorie Wilser On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: > > > It's a lehenga choli. > > http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ > > > > The "Punjabi pantsuit" is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often > used for bridal wear. > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
The tunic is called a Kameez (spellings vary) and the scarf is a Dupatta. Normally they are worn with salwar or shalwar (or other spellings depending on region) which are loose trousers or churidar (again spellings vary!) which are tight legging type trousers. I tried to google around to see what the skirt would be called, but, though I found this combination, they just seemed to be called Kameez with skirt. Maybe this is because it is a more modern combination rather than a traditional one? I don't know. Also, while they are worn in Punjab, they are also worn all over southeast asia. Hope this helps. Teena From: Marjorie Wilser To: Historical Costume Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. Lauren, Thanks for the link!! Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) ==Marjorie Wilser On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: > > > It's a lehenga choli. > > http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ > > > > The "Punjabi pantsuit" is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often > used for bridal wear. > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
Lauren, Thanks for the link!! Not a lehenga choli like those pictures. No. The top is a *tunic* and not a choli. It's as if you were to take a Punjabi pantsuit *tunic* and place it over the long lovely skirt from the Lehenga choli. I'll find time later to post the pic of me wearing it. I'm unforgivably paleface, but the outfit is nice :) ==Marjorie Wilser On Nov 1, 2012, at 7:36 AM, lauren.wal...@comcast.net wrote: It's a lehenga choli. http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ The "Punjabi pantsuit" is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often used for bridal wear. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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And here are some other ones, http://www.utsavfashion.com/lehenga - Marion From: Marjorie Wilser To: Historical Costume Sent: Thu, November 1, 2012 2:16:50 AM Subject: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. In the interest of historical costume, modern version: I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the South Bay (San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's "Punjabi suit" consisting of tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no pants. There is a long, even on me (5'10) flowing skirt. It's obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion embroidery on the front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all over the skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk. Lined throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall and had only to steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset under the arms. Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm definitely voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking perhaps it might be some very formal outfit due to the heavy embroidery. I don't think this list takes attachments, but I do have a pic to post. . . somewhere, or send to whomever is interested. Thanks! ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
It's a lehenga choli. http://www.exoticindiaart.com/textiles/SalwarKameez/lehenga/ The "Punjabi pantsuit" is called a salwar kameez. The lehenga choli is often used for bridal wear. - Original Message - From: "Marjorie Wilser" To: "Historical Costume" Sent: Thursday, November 1, 2012 2:09:39 AM Subject: [h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is. In the interest of historical costume, modern version: I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the South Bay (San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's "Punjabi suit" consisting of tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no pants. There is a long, even on me (5'10) flowing skirt. It's obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion embroidery on the front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all over the skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk. Lined throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall and had only to steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset under the arms. Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm definitely voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking perhaps it might be some very formal outfit due to the heavy embroidery. I don't think this list takes attachments, but I do have a pic to post. . . somewhere, or send to whomever is interested. Thanks! ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Indian? Pakistani? Not sure what it is.
In the interest of historical costume, modern version: I have a great thrift store outfit I purchased some years ago in the South Bay (San Jose) area. It looks like a typical woman's "Punjabi suit" consisting of tunic, shawl, and pants-- except there are no pants. There is a long, even on me (5'10) flowing skirt. It's obviously dressy attire. There is gold (?) bullion embroidery on the front of the tunic, and tiny gold seed beads stitched all over the skirt and shawl (wider than the typical Paloo of a sari). Fabric is an abstract print in warm brown and golden tones on a lightweight silk. Lined throughout. It was a very lucky find for me because I am tall and had only to steal fabric from a seam to add a bust room gusset under the arms. Anybody care to hazard a guess as to this outfit's origins? I'm definitely voting for the Punjab because of the tunic, and thinking perhaps it might be some very formal outfit due to the heavy embroidery. I don't think this list takes attachments, but I do have a pic to post. . . somewhere, or send to whomever is interested. Thanks! ==Marjorie Wilser @..@ @..@ @..@ Three Toad Press http://3toad.blogspot.com/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume