Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-20 Thread zelda crusher

That was my thought as well.  It must be right then, lol. Thanks again,
Laurie> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 
06:33:23 -0500> Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton> > > >> > Cut 
a square of fabric and > measure it. The bigger the better if you > >> > want 
to evaluate the > hand/thickness/flexibility, etc.> >> >> >> > Can you give a 
minimum size of what you think a large-enough swatch would > > be for this?> >> 
> If it were me, I'd use a square foot *minimum* -- a square yard would be > 
better if you can manage it. If the shape remains relatively even and > smooth, 
you can either cut smaller pattern pieces from it, or use it to make > a 
matching hat or mittens or both.> > Denise > > 
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Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-20 Thread Land of Oz


>  Cut a square of fabric and > measure it. The bigger the better if you 
> want to evaluate the > hand/thickness/flexibility, etc.




Can you give a minimum size of what you think a large-enough swatch would 
be for this?




If it were me, I'd use a square foot *minimum* -- a square yard would be 
better if you can manage it. If the shape remains relatively even and 
smooth, you can either cut smaller pattern pieces from it, or use it to make 
a matching hat or mittens or both.


Denise 


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Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-19 Thread zelda crusher

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] you, that is the very first step, indeed!
 
Laurie
 
 
 
> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:13:49 -0400> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: 
> [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton> > > I suggest even before experimenting, 
> get a color wheel from an art shop so > you can better determine where colors 
> come from and how "far away" from your > goal you are to start with. 
> Also...have a specific goal. Get a color swatch > even paint chips from 
> the paint dept are good that is the final color > you want so you have a 
> firm goal to work towards.> > > 
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Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-19 Thread zelda crusher

Indeed, That is one of the things I will do, but I am a belt and suspenders 
kind of person.  Besides, this is my fourth child and I know that expecting one 
to read the label is mostly wishful thinking on my part! 
Laurie
 
> > Why don't you just put in a label that says DRY CLEAN ONLY?> > Kim> 
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Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-19 Thread zelda crusher

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 
> 11:53:33 -0500> Subject: Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton> > >> > 1) . 
> Is it practicable to pre-shrink the fabric enough to prevent this > > 
> happening again? And still have the fabric be usable (ie not wavy and > > 
> weird to work with)?> >> > 2) I know dyeing is always a bit unpredicatable, 
> but how do I guess what > > color to overdye with to get what shade?> >> >  
> Cut a square of fabric and > measure it. The bigger the better if you want to 
> evaluate the > hand/thickness/flexibility, etc. 
 
 
 
Can you give a minimum size of what you think a large-enough swatch would be 
for this?
 
 
> > Experiment, Experiment, Experiment. ;-)> Denise B >  I guess I knew this 
> > wouldna be a stroll in the park.  If only people would stop going into the 
> > hospital and having birthdays and auditions and all
 
Thanks so much!
 
Laurie
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Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-16 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 9/16/2008 12:54:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Experiment, Experiment, Experiment.   ;-)



Indeed!
 
I can tell you if you dye a fuchsia fabric with a plumb color (purplish  
blue) you get a great concord grape purple! Anyway
 
If a raspberry is the color you want, you'll want to go to the red not  to 
the blue on your already fuchsia and "kill" it a tiny bit. Usually  the 
complimentary color will kill the intensity of a colorin this case a  
green. A 
drop or two of greenish grey with that red may do the trick.
 
I suggest even before experimenting, get a color wheel from an art shop so  
you can better determine where colors come from and how "far away" from your  
goal you are to start with. Also...have a specific goal. Get a color swatch 
 even paint chips from the paint dept are good that is the final color 
you  want so you have a firm goal to work towards.



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Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-16 Thread Kim Baird
You can't make a fuchsia into a lighter pink, you''ll have to go darker, or
at least toned down.

I would try some brown dye on it. Start with a smaller amount--you can
always re-dye darker, if you need to. 

Why don't you just put in a label that says DRY CLEAN ONLY?

Kim

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Subject: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton


You guys know wool better than any sewing list I belong to...
I know that some of this has been covered previously, but I had no luck
finding it in the archives (I am only semi computer literate).
 
I have two questions about this fabric:
http://tinyurl.com/5bwd3h
 
1) I am going to make a coat for my 16 year old daughter (some of you may
remember I just did this last spring
[http://laswa.livejournal.com/24074.html#cutid1]), but she wore it in the
rain and her father's girlfriend threw it in the dryer and it shrank down
too much to use.  Sigh.  Is it practicable to pre-shrink the fabric enough
to prevent this happening again?  And still have the fabric be usable (ie
not wavy and weird to work with)?
 
2) The color is a little loud for even her, so I would like to overdye it,
to perhaps one of these two shades.  I know dyeing is always a bit
unpredicatable, but how do I guess what color to overdye with to get what
shade?
 
http://tinyurl.com/5hbaw6
 
http://tinyurl.com/6f29yg
 
Thanks so much,
Laurie
 
 
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Re: [h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-16 Thread Land of Oz


1) .  Is it practicable to pre-shrink the fabric enough to prevent this 
happening again?  And still have the fabric be usable (ie not wavy and 
weird to work with)?


2)   I know dyeing is always a bit unpredicatable, but how do I guess what 
color to overdye with to get what shade?





Yes, you can pre-shrink.

For both questions, you need to use samples.  Cut a square of fabric and 
measure it. The bigger the better if you want to evaluate the 
hand/thickness/flexibility, etc. Wash and dry the sample, measuring it 
BEFORE and AFTER. Keep notes.  If you can buy enough extra, do several. Wash 
all of them once, save one out and label it 1, wash and dry the rest, save 
one out and label it 2, etc. This will tell you if the fabric continues to 
shrink after 2 or 3 washes.


The fabric is less likely to get wavy if it isn't twisted and pulled while 
washing. Using a front loader will help, but the rate of shrinkage might be 
less per washing.


As for dyeing, you'll have to cut lots of small samples (2x2 at least) and 
test several different strengths of dye, and maybe several colors.   You 
might be able to just use the color you want (raspberry) and overdye with a 
medium strength. You might need a weak grey, blue or tan, etc. depending on 
what kinds of colors are "inside" the dyes used on the fabric and the dyes 
you use to shift it to a duller pink.


Experiment, Experiment, Experiment.  ;-)
Denise B 


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[h-cost] OT-Over-dyeing wool melton

2008-09-16 Thread zelda crusher

You guys know wool better than any sewing list I belong to...
I know that some of this has been covered previously, but I had no luck finding 
it in the archives (I am only semi computer literate).
 
I have two questions about this fabric:
http://tinyurl.com/5bwd3h
 
1) I am going to make a coat for my 16 year old daughter (some of you may 
remember I just did this last spring 
[http://laswa.livejournal.com/24074.html#cutid1]), but she wore it in the rain 
and her father's girlfriend threw it in the dryer and it shrank down too much 
to use.  Sigh.  Is it practicable to pre-shrink the fabric enough to prevent 
this happening again?  And still have the fabric be usable (ie not wavy and 
weird to work with)?
 
2) The color is a little loud for even her, so I would like to overdye it, to 
perhaps one of these two shades.  I know dyeing is always a bit unpredicatable, 
but how do I guess what color to overdye with to get what shade?
 
http://tinyurl.com/5hbaw6
 
http://tinyurl.com/6f29yg
 
Thanks so much,
Laurie
 
 
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