Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-23 Thread Bambi TBNL
Years ago, I was unfortunate enough to be helping somebody put together s Heidi 
Marsh pattern, At the time she mostly did Civil War stuff and was one of the 
few 
games in town, ( this was may 20 years ago?)
I was appauled at how little information was in them and how this pieces did 
not 
even match up..the curves seemed to be for totally different garments, etc. I 
finally talked to someone who did re-creation clothing for a living who told me 
that Heidi apparently patterned exsisting antiques as best she could and often 
had never even made them her self to check the patterns before marketing them. 

I would have had no problem with that if she would have some how conveyed that 
to her cusomer cosumers.this is a work in progress attempting to pattern an 
exsisting historic garment that mearures approximately this;. but it was 
quite frustrating.
Muslin EVERTYTHING from companies you dont know ...or even if you do, after all 
figuring out you have a fitting problem AFTER you cut into you precious fabric 
of which you have a limited amount, is not time to ...well you know

 Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL


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and walk with Pride
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From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com
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Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 12:56:06 PM
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions


I haven't dealt with any of the patterns, but when I went to the website I was 
alarmed by the owner's comment  I have done my best to include all pattern 
pieces.   


I would certainly hope so!  Has she not made up these patterns herself to check 
that they work?

Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very good 
advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.



 From: otsi...@socket.net
 To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:44 -0500
 Subject: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions
 
 Today I received a pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the second time I
 received the pattern folded and stuffed in an envelope. They also, at least
 on the clothing patterns place their labels on top of print or design,
 instead of off to the side. I know they are capable of doing this as the
 Ageless Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the page and
 not at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that are not
 the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is all together in a
 three ring binder because unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work to get
 the pattern. Now I have to go and place the instructions between two heavy
 books and a flat surface.
 
 I wish I had read this before I ordered the trim Pamphlets
 http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html
 
 They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at telling you what is
 done. No step by step instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5 appears to
 have piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they say the lining
 comes over the edge and hems on the outside.
 I thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.
 
 I probably would have ordered these patterns anyway but it would have been
 nice to know what I was really getting. Would have ordered the gown anyway
 as I would have to adjust to my size and adapt it. The trim on the other
 hand, I can borrow from a friend books with clearer instructions.
 
 De
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Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-15 Thread Nancy Kiel

I haven't dealt with any of the patterns, but when I went to the website I was 
alarmed by the owner's comment  I have done my best to include all pattern 
pieces.   

I would certainly hope so!  Has she not made up these patterns herself to check 
that they work?
 
Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very good 
advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.


 
 From: otsi...@socket.net
 To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:44 -0500
 Subject: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions
 
 Today I received a pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the second time I
 received the pattern folded and stuffed in an envelope. They also, at least
 on the clothing patterns place their labels on top of print or design,
 instead of off to the side. I know they are capable of doing this as the
 Ageless Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the page and
 not at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that are not
 the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is all together in a
 three ring binder because unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work to get
 the pattern. Now I have to go and place the instructions between two heavy
 books and a flat surface.
 
 I wish I had read this before I ordered the trim Pamphlets
 http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html
 
 They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at telling you what is
 done. No step by step instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5 appears to
 have piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they say the lining
 comes over the edge and hems on the outside.
 I thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.
 
 I probably would have ordered these patterns anyway but it would have been
 nice to know what I was really getting. Would have ordered the gown anyway
 as I would have to adjust to my size and adapt it. The trim on the other
 hand, I can borrow from a friend books with clearer instructions.
 
 De
 taking toe of the soap box
 
 
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Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-15 Thread cw15147-hcost01
No.

Ageless Patterns' patterns are scaled up and copied out of period fashion 
magazines, including the instructions, which aren't more than a paragraph, if 
even. One buys them in anticipation of doing a little to a lot of work to 
produce the garment. Don't expect instructions, grading, seam allowances, 
markings, etc. that you find in a modern pattern.




Claudine



- Original Message 
 From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com
 To: costume list h-cost...@indra.com
 Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 9:56:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions
 
 
 I haven't dealt with any of the patterns, but when I went to the website I  
 was 
alarmed by the owner's comment  I have done my best to include all pattern  
pieces.   

 
 I would certainly hope so!  Has she not made up  these patterns herself to 
check that they work?
 
 Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a  weasel! This is very good 
advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing  isn't nice.
 
 
 
  From: otsi...@socket.net
  To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
   Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:44 -0500
  Subject: [h-cost] Patterns of time   Ageless Patterns trim instructions
  
  Today I received a  pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the second time I
  received the  pattern folded and stuffed in an envelope. They also, at least
  on the  clothing patterns place their labels on top of print or design,
  instead  of off to the side. I know they are capable of doing this as the
  Ageless  Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the page and
  not  at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that are not
   the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is all together in 
   
a
  three ring binder because unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work to  get
  the pattern. Now I have to go and place the instructions between two  heavy
  books and a flat surface.
  
  I wish I had read this  before I ordered the trim Pamphlets
  http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html
  
   They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at telling you what  
is
  done. No step by step instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5  appears to
  have piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they  say the lining
  comes over the edge and hems on the outside.
  I  thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.
  
  I probably would  have ordered these patterns anyway but it would have been
  nice to know  what I was really getting. Would have ordered the gown anyway
  as I would  have to adjust to my size and adapt it. The trim on the other
  hand, I  can borrow from a friend books with clearer instructions.
  
   De
  taking toe of the soap box
  
  
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Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-15 Thread Nancy Kiel

But I think I could expect to find all the pattern pieces.

Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very good 
advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.


 
 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:02:48 -0700
 From: cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com
 To: h-cost...@indra.com
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions
 
 No.
 
 Ageless Patterns' patterns are scaled up and copied out of period fashion 
 magazines, including the instructions, which aren't more than a paragraph, if 
 even. One buys them in anticipation of doing a little to a lot of work to 
 produce the garment. Don't expect instructions, grading, seam allowances, 
 markings, etc. that you find in a modern pattern.
 
 
 
 
 Claudine
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
  From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com
  To: costume list h-cost...@indra.com
  Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 9:56:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions
  
  
  I haven't dealt with any of the patterns, but when I went to the website I 
  was 
 alarmed by the owner's comment  I have done my best to include all pattern 
 pieces.  
 
  
  I would certainly hope so! Has she not made up these patterns herself to 
 check that they work?
  
  Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very good 
 advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.
  
  
  
   From: otsi...@socket.net
   To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
   Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:44 -0500
   Subject: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions
   
   Today I received a pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the second time 
   I
   received the pattern folded and stuffed in an envelope. They also, at 
   least
   on the clothing patterns place their labels on top of print or design,
   instead of off to the side. I know they are capable of doing this as the
   Ageless Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the page 
   and
   not at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that are not
   the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is all together 
   in 
 a
   three ring binder because unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work to get
   the pattern. Now I have to go and place the instructions between two heavy
   books and a flat surface.
   
   I wish I had read this before I ordered the trim Pamphlets
   http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html
   
   They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at telling you what 
 is
   done. No step by step instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5 appears 
   to
   have piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they say the lining
   comes over the edge and hems on the outside.
   I thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.
   
   I probably would have ordered these patterns anyway but it would have been
   nice to know what I was really getting. Would have ordered the gown anyway
   as I would have to adjust to my size and adapt it. The trim on the other
   hand, I can borrow from a friend books with clearer instructions.
   
   De
   taking toe of the soap box
   
   
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Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-15 Thread cw15147-hcost01
Agreed. Caveat emptor, is all I'm saying.


Claudine



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 From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com
 To: costume list h-cost...@indra.com
 Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 10:15:28 AM
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions
 
 
 But I think I could expect to find all the pattern pieces.
 
 Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a  weasel! This is very good 
advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing  isn't nice.
 
 
 
  Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:02:48 -0700
   From: cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com
   To: h-cost...@indra.com
  Subject: Re:  [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions
  
  No.
  
  Ageless Patterns' patterns are scaled up and  copied out of period fashion 
  magazines, including the instructions,  which aren't more than a paragraph, 
if 

  even. One buys them in  anticipation of doing a little to a lot of work to 
  produce the garment.  Don't expect instructions, grading, seam allowances, 
  markings, etc.  that you find in a modern pattern.
  
  
  
  
   Claudine
  
  
  
  - Original Message 
From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com
To: costume list h-cost...@indra.com
   Sent:  Tue, March 15, 2011 9:56:06 AM
   Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of  time  Ageless Patterns trim 
instructions
   
   
   I haven't dealt with any of the patterns, but when I went to the  website 
   I 
was 

  alarmed by the owner's comment  I have done my best  to include all 
  pattern 

  pieces.  
  
   
   I would certainly hope so! Has she not made up these patterns  herself to 
  check that they work?
   
   Nancy  Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a  weasel! This is very 
   good 

  advice. For the weasel will not like it  And teasing isn't nice.
   
   
   
 From: otsi...@socket.net
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
 Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:44 -0500
Subject: [h-cost]  Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions

Today I received a pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the  second 
time I
received the pattern folded and stuffed in an  envelope. They also, at 
least
on the clothing patterns place  their labels on top of print or design,
instead of off to the  side. I know they are capable of doing this as 
the
Ageless  Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the 
page 
and
 not at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that are  
not
the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is  all 
together 
in 

  a
three ring binder because  unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work to 
get
the pattern.  Now I have to go and place the instructions between two 
heavy
 books and a flat surface.

I wish I had read  this before I ordered the trim Pamphlets
http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html

They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at  telling you 
what 

  is
done. No step by step  instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5 
appears 
to
have  piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they say the 
lining
 comes over the edge and hems on the outside.
I  thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.

 I probably would have ordered these patterns anyway but it would have  
been
nice to know what I was really getting. Would have  ordered the gown 
anyway
as I would have to adjust to my size  and adapt it. The trim on the 
other
hand, I can borrow from a  friend books with clearer instructions.

 De
taking toe of the soap box

 
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Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-15 Thread Franchesca
Quite a few of us may have the publications that these were photocopied out
of.

If you can give us more information about what it is you have and what is
missing we, the brain collective of historical costume, may be able to find
it for you and share. :)

Or, it may be on the Google patents search or publications search.

Franchesca 


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: From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-
: boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Kiel
: Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 10:15 AM
: To: costume list
: Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim
instructions
: 
: 
: But I think I could expect to find all the pattern pieces.
: 
: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very good
: advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.
: 
: 
: 
:  Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:02:48 -0700
:  From: cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com
:  To: h-cost...@indra.com
:  Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim
instructions
: 
:  No.
: 
:  Ageless Patterns' patterns are scaled up and copied out of period
fashion
:  magazines, including the instructions, which aren't more than a
paragraph,
: if
:  even. One buys them in anticipation of doing a little to a lot of work
to
:  produce the garment. Don't expect instructions, grading, seam
allowances,
:  markings, etc. that you find in a modern pattern.
: 
: 
: 
: 
:  Claudine
: 
: 
: 
:  - Original Message 
:   From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com
:   To: costume list h-cost...@indra.com
:   Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 9:56:06 AM
:   Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim
instructions
:  
:  
:   I haven't dealt with any of the patterns, but when I went to the
website I
: was
:  alarmed by the owner's comment  I have done my best to include all
: pattern
:  pieces. 
:  
:  
:   I would certainly hope so! Has she not made up these patterns herself
to
:  check that they work?
:  
:   Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very
: good
:  advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.
:  
:  
:  
:From: otsi...@socket.net
:To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
:Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:44 -0500
:Subject: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim
instructions
:   
:Today I received a pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the second
: time I
:received the pattern folded and stuffed in an envelope. They also,
at
: least
:on the clothing patterns place their labels on top of print or
design,
:instead of off to the side. I know they are capable of doing this as
the
:Ageless Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the
page
: and
:not at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that
are
: not
:the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is all
together in
:  a
:three ring binder because unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work
to get
:the pattern. Now I have to go and place the instructions between two
: heavy
:books and a flat surface.
:   
:I wish I had read this before I ordered the trim Pamphlets
:http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html
:   
:They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at telling you
: what
:  is
:done. No step by step instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5
: appears to
:have piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they say the
lining
:comes over the edge and hems on the outside.
:I thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.
:   
:I probably would have ordered these patterns anyway but it would
: have been
:nice to know what I was really getting. Would have ordered the gown
: anyway
:as I would have to adjust to my size and adapt it. The trim on the
other
:hand, I can borrow from a friend books with clearer instructions.
:   
:De
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Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-15 Thread Maggie Halberg
The trouble is that patterns printed in books and magazines may not have 
included all the pattern pieces.  Its like sewing instructions that simply say 
make up in the usual manner.  The period seamstress was expected to know how 
to make a garment and how to create the needed or extra pattern pieces from 
other information.

  Maggie Halberg

 

 


 

 

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Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 1:16 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions




But I think I could expect to find all the pattern pieces.



Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very good 

advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.





 

 Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:02:48 -0700

 From: cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com

 To: h-cost...@indra.com

 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions

 

 No.

 

 Ageless Patterns' patterns are scaled up and copied out of period fashion 

 magazines, including the instructions, which aren't more than a paragraph, if 

 even. One buys them in anticipation of doing a little to a lot of work to 

 produce the garment. Don't expect instructions, grading, seam allowances, 

 markings, etc. that you find in a modern pattern.

 

 

 

 

 Claudine

 

 

 

 - Original Message 

  From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com

  To: costume list h-cost...@indra.com

  Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 9:56:06 AM

  Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions

  

  

  I haven't dealt with any of the patterns, but when I went to the website I 

was 

 alarmed by the owner's comment  I have done my best to include all pattern 

 pieces.  

 

  

  I would certainly hope so! Has she not made up these patterns herself to 

 check that they work?

  

  Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very good 

 advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.

  

  

  

   From: otsi...@socket.net

   To: h-costume@mail.indra.com

   Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:44 -0500

   Subject: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions

   

   Today I received a pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the second time 

I

   received the pattern folded and stuffed in an envelope. They also, at 

least

   on the clothing patterns place their labels on top of print or design,

   instead of off to the side. I know they are capable of doing this as the

   Ageless Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the page 

and

   not at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that are not

   the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is all together 
   in 



 a

   three ring binder because unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work to get

   the pattern. Now I have to go and place the instructions between two heavy

   books and a flat surface.

   

   I wish I had read this before I ordered the trim Pamphlets

   http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html

   

   They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at telling you what 

 is

   done. No step by step instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5 appears 

to

   have piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they say the lining

   comes over the edge and hems on the outside.

   I thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.

   

   I probably would have ordered these patterns anyway but it would have been

   nice to know what I was really getting. Would have ordered the gown anyway

   as I would have to adjust to my size and adapt it. The trim on the other

   hand, I can borrow from a friend books with clearer instructions.

   

   De

   taking toe of the soap box

   

   

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Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-15 Thread Franchesca Havas
Point taken.

Surely one of us can extrapolate from our historical knowledge what the
missing piece is though.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Maggie Halberg hhalb94...@aol.com wrote:

 The trouble is that patterns printed in books and magazines may not have
 included all the pattern pieces.  Its like sewing instructions that simply
 say make up in the usual manner.  The period seamstress was expected to
 know how to make a garment and how to create the needed or extra pattern
 pieces from other information.

  Maggie Halberg










 -Original Message-
 From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com
 To: costume list h-cost...@indra.com
  Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 1:16 pm
 Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim instructions




 But I think I could expect to find all the pattern pieces.



 Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very good

 advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.







  Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 10:02:48 -0700

  From: cw15147-hcos...@yahoo.com

  To: h-cost...@indra.com

  Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim
 instructions

 

  No.

 

  Ageless Patterns' patterns are scaled up and copied out of period fashion

  magazines, including the instructions, which aren't more than a
 paragraph, if

  even. One buys them in anticipation of doing a little to a lot of work to

  produce the garment. Don't expect instructions, grading, seam allowances,

  markings, etc. that you find in a modern pattern.

 

 

 

 

  Claudine

 

 

 

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   From: Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com

   To: costume list h-cost...@indra.com

   Sent: Tue, March 15, 2011 9:56:06 AM

   Subject: Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim
 instructions

  

  

   I haven't dealt with any of the patterns, but when I went to the
 website I

 was

  alarmed by the owner's comment  I have done my best to include all
 pattern

  pieces. 

  

  

   I would certainly hope so! Has she not made up these patterns herself
 to

  check that they work?

  

   Nancy Kiel nancy_k...@hotmail.com Never tease a weasel! This is very
 good

  advice. For the weasel will not like it And teasing isn't nice.

  

  

  

From: otsi...@socket.net

To: h-costume@mail.indra.com

Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 16:17:44 -0500

Subject: [h-cost] Patterns of time  Ageless Patterns trim
 instructions

   

Today I received a pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the second
 time

 I

received the pattern folded and stuffed in an envelope. They also, at

 least

on the clothing patterns place their labels on top of print or
 design,

instead of off to the side. I know they are capable of doing this as
 the

Ageless Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the
 page

 and

not at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that are
 not

the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is all
 together in



  a

three ring binder because unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work to
 get

the pattern. Now I have to go and place the instructions between two
 heavy

books and a flat surface.

   

I wish I had read this before I ordered the trim Pamphlets

http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html

   

They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at telling you
 what

  is

done. No step by step instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5
 appears

 to

have piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they say the
 lining

comes over the edge and hems on the outside.

I thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.

   

I probably would have ordered these patterns anyway but it would have
 been

nice to know what I was really getting. Would have ordered the gown
 anyway

as I would have to adjust to my size and adapt it. The trim on the
 other

hand, I can borrow from a friend books with clearer instructions.

   

De

taking toe of the soap box

   

   

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Re: [h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-15 Thread otsisto
I purchased #1726,1894 outing/traveling outfit (skirt and jacket) with the
intention of seeing what the pattern pieces look like and try to find
something from the big 3 that comes closest and then adapt because I am a
size 24-26.
#1726 gives a diagram for the pattern pieces but there are pieces that are
listed that are a bit confusing. pieces #5-#7 are said to be for a belt,
there is no belt. Nos# 18 (belt pocket), 17 (skirt waistband), and 16 (front
facing) are not in the diagram. I have yet to look at the pattern.
She does say in About the Patterns that she has made them. And yes, there
is almost didilly squat for instructions. She says that with the pattern
pieces she added seam allowance except where indicated.
I am glad that she put this together but wish that it was more.
So with the trim pattern, if someone has the time, there is a book to be
made on step by step instructions on how to make the trim. Not only for
theatre and reinactors but with the increase in popularity with steampuck.

De



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[h-cost] Patterns of time Ageless Patterns trim instructions

2011-03-14 Thread otsisto
Today I received a pattern from Patterns of Time, this is the second time I
received the pattern folded and stuffed in an envelope. They also, at least
on the clothing patterns place their labels on top of print or design,
instead of off to the side. I know they are capable of doing this as the
Ageless Patterns of trim has the PT labels in at the bottom of the page and
not at the top covering the design. With most of my patterns that are not
the big 3 I place instructions in clear sleeves and put is all together in a
three ring binder because unlike the big 3 I have to do extra work to get
the pattern. Now I have to go and place the instructions between two heavy
books and a flat surface.

I wish I had read this before I ordered the trim Pamphlets
http://www.gbacg.org/great-pattern-review/ageless.html

They have pictures and a paragraph making an attempt at telling you what is
done. No step by step instructions with diagrams. #1240, trim #5 appears to
have piping but it is not in the instructions, instead they say the lining
comes over the edge and hems on the outside.
I thought I was getting a good deal at $3 ea.

I probably would have ordered these patterns anyway but it would have been
nice to know what I was really getting. Would have ordered the gown anyway
as I would have to adjust to my size and adapt it. The trim on the other
hand, I can borrow from a friend books with clearer instructions.

De
taking toe of the soap box


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