Re: [h-cost] Eras and places (was hippies)
Perhaps we have Scarlett O'Hara to thank for the hoopskirts,
especially the barer evening dress worn at the picnic. :-)
If you mean that ruffly short-sleeved white dress, I found the historical
image they must have taken that costume from. It was one of the hardest
things I ever did, shifting gears in my head to accept that one as actually
period.
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RE: [h-cost] Eras and places (was hippies)
I did some extensive research on mid-19th century skirt supports (corded
petticoats, cage and covered crinolines, etc.) for a presentation last year.
Based on manufacturing and sales records, crinolines were widely available
and worn anywhere in the country, including the far west. This is amply
supported by original photographs, extant crinolines, and commentary in
period magazines, newspapers, letters and journals. The average retail price
for a crinoline c. 1855-1865 was $0.25-$2.00 each, depending on the overall
style and the number of steels.
Documentation indicates that the style spread quite rapidly across the
country - within a few months at most.
Our Gold Rush started in 1849. In the circular-skirt-support period there
were substantially fewer women in California, per capita, than in other
parts of the country. So fewer circular-skirt-supports were being
worn. (This includes Chinese and Hispanic women, who were also few and far
between, and much less likely to wear circular-skirt-supports
anyway.) Circular-skirt-supports were less common because women were less
common. As the years went by more women arrived, increasing their
percentage of the population. But by like 1870 very few, if any, women
were still wearing circular-skirt-supports. My point being that women in
hoop skirts never became part of the Gold Rush image. Men wearing Levis
did, to the extent that there's one on the California State Seal.
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Re: [h-cost] Eras and places (was hippies)
Kayta said,
Berkeley, CA, and the 1960s. You see aging Hippies, and ones whose
parents were barely born in the 1960s, on the streets in Berkeley, CA,
even today.
I have an "ageing" hippie next door who just turned 40. :-) Do you
think, though, that the hippie styles in Berkeley are only due to the
area, or because kids like the style again? Maybe a bit of both? I
agree, though that the hippie look says Berkeley or Haight Ashbury. (Is
that in Berkeley?) Or Woodstock, which is not close at all. :-)
Haight Ashbury (or "the Haight") is the name of the area around the
intersection of Haight Street and Ashbury Street in San Francisco. In my
sartorial opinion, people today are more likely to wear Hippie clothes in
Berkeley than in San Francisco, even people too young to have been Hippies
the first time. In the San Francisco Bay Area, Hippie clothes say Berkeley
rather than San Francisco, to the locals.
The Haight Ashbury neighborhood has moved on beyond Hippie things, mostly,
and is a mixture of gentrification and modern street kids. A mile downhill
on Haight Street ("the Lower Haight"), things are more Hippie-like and more
young-artist driven. Telegraph Avenue in Berkeley, a street dead-ending at
the U.C.Berkeley campus, is another mix of gentrification and modern young
people, but there's a daily street fair of sidewalk crafts booths that adds
a distinct Hippie flavor to the area. More than one of these booths sells
tie-dye shirts and other tie-dye items. A few sell bead jewelry.
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Re: [h-cost] Eras and places (was hippies)
Jordana said, On the topic of the south and hoop skirts Were the hoop skirts popular later in the south then the north? I mean, our (ok, mine and I am a typical yankee) picture of "THE SOUTH" is alweays with ladies in hoops, but I would assume that the north had just as many ladies wearing hoops at the same time. Perhaps we have Scarlett O'Hara to thank for the hoopskirts, especially the barer evening dress worn at the picnic. :-) The American Civil War marked a great change for the south, and therefore an era greatly identified with the region. When I think of the real daytime wear, the buttoned up hooped gowns in the sepia toned portraits, I think of Gettysburg, PA. That's probably because it's near me and I've done reenactments there, so it's strictly personal. But the fluffy pastel colored ballgowns - that's the south. -Carol ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Eras and places (was hippies)
I did some extensive research on mid-19th century skirt supports (corded petticoats, cage and covered crinolines, etc.) for a presentation last year. Based on manufacturing and sales records, crinolines were widely available and worn anywhere in the country, including the far west. This is amply supported by original photographs, extant crinolines, and commentary in period magazines, newspapers, letters and journals. The average retail price for a crinoline c. 1855-1865 was $0.25-$2.00 each, depending on the overall style and the number of steels. Documentation indicates that the style spread quite rapidly across the country - within a few months at most. Carolann Schmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.genteelarts.com Ladies & Gentlemen of the 1860s Conference, March 2-5, 2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Eras and places (was hippies)
On the topic of the south and hoop skirts Were the hoop skirts popular later in the south then the north? I mean, our (ok, mine and I am a typical yankee) picture of "THE SOUTH" is alweays with ladies in hoops, but I would assume that the north had just as many ladies wearing hoops at the same time. jordana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
