Re: [h-cost] 1968 boys' wear
I don't know about the USA, but when I was a child in the '50s British children's clothes were sized by age. Being of slight build, I wore sizes that were supposed to fit someone younger than I was! For Parisian apaches, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_(gang) Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor _ The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please direct any concerns to info...@derby.ac.uk. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
At that age, they are often the same. A three yr old will wear a size 3, etc. Kids used to be skinnier. If the child was overweight, it went into chubby sizes, or 6 and 6x, for example. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of penn...@costumegallery.com Sent: Monday, January 23, 2012 2:41 AM To: h-costume Subject: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing industry trade journal. Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7. The article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes. Below is a little from the article: For more years than they like to remember, the bane of the existence of 3-7 makers was price. It reached a certain point.and then stayed there. Then along came the family revolution in men's wear.and the boys' wear people jumped right into the fray. Even 3-7 houses, in their own separate world, couldn't stand idly by. What do you think? Age or size? Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
I am working on another article from the same journal about teenage boy's fashion. Came across an interesting statement about their sport shirts: On the other hand, apache (which, incidentally, refers to the traditional Parisian thug, not the American Indian) is what they're calling any shirt that comes with a scarf. I always thought that apache scarves were named after the American Indians. Prior, I wondered why after them. BTW, apache is not capitalized. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
Gotta be age. (Which to some degree, supposedly corresponds to size) Yours in cosutming,Lisa A On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:41:09 -0500 penn...@costumegallery.com writes: I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing industry trade journal. Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7. The article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes. Below is a little from the article: For more years than they like to remember, the bane of the existence of 3-7 makers was price. It reached a certain point.and then stayed there. Then along came the family revolution in men's wear.and the boys' wear people jumped right into the fray. Even 3-7 houses, in their own separate world, couldn't stand idly by. What do you think? Age or size? Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/1074984159615 79 http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/10749841596157 9 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
Gotta be age. I beg to differ. Since we are talking about the INDUSTRY, surely size is what counts, not age. 3-7 is the range for child sizes. BTW, seems a good opportunity to announce the release of Dr. Jo Paoletti's book, Pink and Blue: Telling the Boys from the Girls in America, (Indian University Press, 2012). She looks at the 1880s to the present, so Penny might find it useful. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: lisa58 lis...@juno.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Mon, Jan 23, 2012 6:48 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear Gotta be age. (Which to some degree, supposedly corresponds to size) Yours in cosutming,Lisa A n Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:41:09 -0500 penn...@costumegallery.com writes: I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing industry trade journal. Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7. The article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes. Below is a little from the article: For more years than they like to remember, the bane of the existence of 3-7 makers was price. It reached a certain point.and then stayed there. Then along came the family revolution in men's wear.and the boys' wear people jumped right into the fray. Even 3-7 houses, in their own separate world, couldn't stand idly by. What do you think? Age or size? Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites http://www.costumegallery.com/ www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/1074984159615 9 ttp://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/10749841596157 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
I agree with Ann. In an industry reference it would definitely be SIZE not age. Denise Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
I had a boy in 1969, and sizes were SAID to indicate age. It wasn't particularly true, no more than it has ever been. At age three, he wore a 3 jean for length, but I had to buy a slim and take them in. No butt to hold them up! I wore what they called a 6x at age 5. No idea what the x meant, but that predated 1968 by a lotta years :) ==Marjorie On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:41 AM, penn...@costumegallery.com penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: I am working on an article about 1968 boys wear from a clothing industry trade journal. Repeatedly in the article refers to boys wear 3-7. The article doesn't state if this is ages or sizes. Below is a little from the article: ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
Size. The little guys are usually trained by three. From an earlier era, the 50's, that was when they could be put into the more useful play and dress clothes. At about age five or six (they always seemed to be younger then the indicated size) they jumped to 8's and 10's. just experience speaking. Audy in the high boonies of Central Texas PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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It's like color names. The industry names them something from history that has no particular meaning except for novelty (to differentiate from other manufacturers' product names). IMHO of course :) ==M On Jan 23, 2012, at 3:29 AM, penn...@costumegallery.com penn...@costumegallery.com wrote(in part): I always thought that apache scarves were named after the American Indians. Prior, I wondered why after them. BTW, apache is not capitalized. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
Penny, just a guess on apache 1968. A typical fashion throwback to the 30's-40's apache dancers? Not at all American Indian like. Also in that era I remember making some sport shirts,about early 70's, not like anything available commercially, of very wildly colored prints that resembled American Indian motifs. Resembled is the key word. The boys loved them.Audy. in the high boonies of Central Texas PeoplePC Online A better way to Internet http://www.peoplepc.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
These industry articles are about what will be on the market in Dec. 1968 - March 1969. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 1968 Boys Wear
Audy, The article about the teenage boys' wear is really interesting and discusses all the different styles of sports shirts that they were wearing. Some of the styles merged into a new style. Western wear was also popular during this time frame. There were 4-5 styles going on at the time. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Costume-Gallery-Websites/107498415961579 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
