Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
oh! I am so sorry; I thought this was a local SCA list. I am in Fresno, CA...please forgive :) > To: h-cost...@indra.com > Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 20:07:58 -0400 > From: lis...@juno.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining > > I have no idea where you live, I live north of Silver Spring , Maryland,, > USA. That intersection does not sound at all familiar > > Yours in cosutming, Lisa a > > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:01:59 -0700 D Knowles > writes: > > an Indian grocery on shields and bkackstone has wonderful cottons for > > 1$ a yard. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > I have an original early 1860s high-necked sheer cotton dress in > > a > > > > dark > > > > green stripe, with a low-necked black taffeta bodice lining. > > I've > > > > always > > > > assumed the lining might have been recycled from something else > > and > > > > was > > > > used for economy. > > > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
I have no idea where you live, I live north of Silver Spring , Maryland,, USA. That intersection does not sound at all familiar Yours in cosutming, Lisa a On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 15:01:59 -0700 D Knowles writes: > an Indian grocery on shields and bkackstone has wonderful cottons for > 1$ a yard. > > >> > > > > > > > > I have an original early 1860s high-necked sheer cotton dress in > a > > > dark > > > green stripe, with a low-necked black taffeta bodice lining. > I've > > > always > > > assumed the lining might have been recycled from something else > and > > > was > > > used for economy. > > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
an Indian grocery on shields and bkackstone has wonderful cottons for 1$ a yard. > To: h-cost...@indra.com > Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2010 06:42:55 -0400 > From: lis...@juno.com > Subject: Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining > > Thank you all for the answers about the bodice lining; I may very well > have some navy blue cotton for lining, and it MIGHT be enough, but I have > other cottons that might work.I just want to go with what might be > "most commonly used". I am making the whole dress up in a lightweight > gray wool as well (since I ahve a load of it as well as matching > lining)--She'll have an extra outfit, but I will be able to see that > every part fits correctly (although the mock-up fits great), and I"ll > work out the buttons, closures etc. > > Yours in costuming, Li sA > > > On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:09:38 -0700 Lavolta Press > writes: > > > > > > On 6/9/2010 4:24 PM, Lisa A Ashton wrote: > > > Also, should I plan to use a cotton or linen for the lining? Or > > could I > > > use a silk? Because if silk would be acceptable for teh lining, I > > have a > > > nice medium weight silk that I could dye myself, and I have lots > > of it. > > > I am using a lightweight cotton for the interlining, the fabric is > > a > > > calico cotton that an average weight--what you would use for > > quilting. > > > > > > I have an original early 1860s high-necked sheer cotton dress in a > > dark > > green stripe, with a low-necked black taffeta bodice lining. I've > > always > > assumed the lining might have been recycled from something else and > > was > > used for economy. > > > > I also have an original brown silk 1850s dress with a floral printed > > > > calico lining with a brown background. > > > > Usually you see a glazed cotton but in washable dresses, the glaze > > is > > often gone by now. White for white dresses, black for black dresses, > > > > various shades of brown for most. > > > > But as with the first two examples, dressmakers sometimes used what > > they > > had around that was the right weight. > > > > Fran > > Lavolta Press > > Books on making historic clothing > > www.lavoltapress.com > > > > ___ > > h-costume mailing list > > h-costume@mail.indra.com > > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > > > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume _ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
Mucking about museums I have found - especially in middle class and below - that linings can be divided up by area. I have seen skirts, bodices, and sleeves all have different linings - probably all dependent on what the woman had (or even her seamstress - with no real worry about whether or not they matched. There also seemed to be a mismatch if the garment had been altered (usually let out at some time or other, probably to accommodate pregnancy or weight gain). So line the sleeves differently if you don't have enough of the blue for all of it. 19th century women below the wealthy were incredibly pragmatic - especially about the parts that were not seen. On 6/10/10 5:42 AM, "Lisa A Ashton" wrote: Thank you all for the answers about the bodice lining; I may very well have some navy blue cotton for lining, and it MIGHT be enough, but I have other cottons that might work.I just want to go with what might be "most commonly used". I am making the whole dress up in a lightweight gray wool as well (since I ahve a load of it as well as matching lining)--She'll have an extra outfit, but I will be able to see that every part fits correctly (although the mock-up fits great), and I"ll work out the buttons, closures etc. Yours in costuming, Li sA On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:09:38 -0700 Lavolta Press writes: > > > On 6/9/2010 4:24 PM, Lisa A Ashton wrote: > > Also, should I plan to use a cotton or linen for the lining? Or > could I > > use a silk? Because if silk would be acceptable for teh lining, I > have a > > nice medium weight silk that I could dye myself, and I have lots > of it. > > I am using a lightweight cotton for the interlining, the fabric is > a > > calico cotton that an average weight--what you would use for > quilting. > > > I have an original early 1860s high-necked sheer cotton dress in a > dark > green stripe, with a low-necked black taffeta bodice lining. I've > always > assumed the lining might have been recycled from something else and > was > used for economy. > > I also have an original brown silk 1850s dress with a floral printed > > calico lining with a brown background. > > Usually you see a glazed cotton but in washable dresses, the glaze > is > often gone by now. White for white dresses, black for black dresses, > > various shades of brown for most. > > But as with the first two examples, dressmakers sometimes used what > they > had around that was the right weight. > > Fran > Lavolta Press > Books on making historic clothing > www.lavoltapress.com > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
Thank you all for the answers about the bodice lining; I may very well have some navy blue cotton for lining, and it MIGHT be enough, but I have other cottons that might work.I just want to go with what might be "most commonly used". I am making the whole dress up in a lightweight gray wool as well (since I ahve a load of it as well as matching lining)--She'll have an extra outfit, but I will be able to see that every part fits correctly (although the mock-up fits great), and I"ll work out the buttons, closures etc. Yours in costuming, Li sA On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:09:38 -0700 Lavolta Press writes: > > > On 6/9/2010 4:24 PM, Lisa A Ashton wrote: > > Also, should I plan to use a cotton or linen for the lining? Or > could I > > use a silk? Because if silk would be acceptable for teh lining, I > have a > > nice medium weight silk that I could dye myself, and I have lots > of it. > > I am using a lightweight cotton for the interlining, the fabric is > a > > calico cotton that an average weight--what you would use for > quilting. > > > I have an original early 1860s high-necked sheer cotton dress in a > dark > green stripe, with a low-necked black taffeta bodice lining. I've > always > assumed the lining might have been recycled from something else and > was > used for economy. > > I also have an original brown silk 1850s dress with a floral printed > > calico lining with a brown background. > > Usually you see a glazed cotton but in washable dresses, the glaze > is > often gone by now. White for white dresses, black for black dresses, > > various shades of brown for most. > > But as with the first two examples, dressmakers sometimes used what > they > had around that was the right weight. > > Fran > Lavolta Press > Books on making historic clothing > www.lavoltapress.com > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
On 6/9/2010 4:24 PM, Lisa A Ashton wrote: Also, should I plan to use a cotton or linen for the lining? Or could I use a silk? Because if silk would be acceptable for teh lining, I have a nice medium weight silk that I could dye myself, and I have lots of it. I am using a lightweight cotton for the interlining, the fabric is a calico cotton that an average weight--what you would use for quilting. I have an original early 1860s high-necked sheer cotton dress in a dark green stripe, with a low-necked black taffeta bodice lining. I've always assumed the lining might have been recycled from something else and was used for economy. I also have an original brown silk 1850s dress with a floral printed calico lining with a brown background. Usually you see a glazed cotton but in washable dresses, the glaze is often gone by now. White for white dresses, black for black dresses, various shades of brown for most. But as with the first two examples, dressmakers sometimes used what they had around that was the right weight. Fran Lavolta Press Books on making historic clothing www.lavoltapress.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
At 04:52 PM 6/9/2010, you wrote: If I have enough of the fabric I am using for the skirt and bodice, is it alright to use the same fabric for the lining, or should it be a solid color? Yours in cosuming, LisaA I find that unbleached muslin is excellent for bodice and sleeve linings. I don't generally line my skirts. I'd save the pretty cotton for another dress. Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
If I have enough of the fabric I am using for the skirt and bodice, is it alright to use the same fabric for the lining, or should it be a solid color? Yorus in cosutmign, Li saA On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:38:02 -0700 Joan Jurancich writes: > At 04:24 PM 6/9/2010, you wrote: > >Also, should I plan to use a cotton or linen for the lining? Or > could I > >use a silk? Because if silk would be acceptable for teh lining, I > have a > >nice medium weight silk that I could dye myself, and I have lots of > it. > >I am using a lightweight cotton for the interlining, the fabric is > a > >calico cotton that an average weight--what you would use for > quilting. > > > > > >Thanks for all your great feedback on these questions--and I have > ordered > >the "Who Wore What" book as well, Amazon had it used. > > > >Yours in cosutming, lisa a > > For a cotton dress, it's best to use cotton for the lining. I'd > save > the silk for a dress (and silk dresses often have cotton or linen > linings). > > > Joan Jurancich > joa...@surewest.net > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
At 04:24 PM 6/9/2010, you wrote: Also, should I plan to use a cotton or linen for the lining? Or could I use a silk? Because if silk would be acceptable for teh lining, I have a nice medium weight silk that I could dye myself, and I have lots of it. I am using a lightweight cotton for the interlining, the fabric is a calico cotton that an average weight--what you would use for quilting. Thanks for all your great feedback on these questions--and I have ordered the "Who Wore What" book as well, Amazon had it used. Yours in cosutming, lisa a For a cotton dress, it's best to use cotton for the lining. I'd save the silk for a dress (and silk dresses often have cotton or linen linings). Joan Jurancich joa...@surewest.net ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] 19th c women's dress - lining
Also, should I plan to use a cotton or linen for the lining? Or could I use a silk? Because if silk would be acceptable for teh lining, I have a nice medium weight silk that I could dye myself, and I have lots of it. I am using a lightweight cotton for the interlining, the fabric is a calico cotton that an average weight--what you would use for quilting. Thanks for all your great feedback on these questions--and I have ordered the "Who Wore What" book as well, Amazon had it used. Yours in cosutming, lisa a ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
