Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
At 11:12 12/12/2005, you wrote: Hi, I have a bustle dress and I am wondering if it would look weird to make an evening bodice for the dress. The dress is very simple and made from cotton. But I have just one week to finish a coat and vest for my husband and a dress for me. This is the dress http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Bustle/Bustle.html It is quite normal to have a second bodice for a dress in both bustle periods. I have usually seen them in silk, but I see no reason why you should not make one to match your skirt. It would only matter if someone in the group you are with took it into his/her head to complain. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
I can't see why you couldn't. There are extant examples of dresses with different bodices. Mind you, they are made of different material than cotton, but I think you would look and feel better if you were dressed in an appropriate style to match your husband's attire. People won't notice the cotton so much, especially from a bit of distance. Have fun at your event! Kelly/estela www.goldenoakinn.com - Original Message - From: Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 7:12 AM Subject: [h-cost] Bustle dress question Hi, I have a bustle dress and I am wondering if it would look weird to make an evening bodice for the dress. The dress is very simple and made from cotton. But I have just one week to finish a coat and vest for my husband and a dress for me. This is the dress http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Bustle/Bustle.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
Deredere-- I have seen many 19th century dresses with two bodices, one for day and one for evening. Looking at your dress, I wonder if you could leave the apron off the skirt for evening wear? That checked fabric is very daytime, not formal enough for evening. Kim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Deredere Galbraith Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 5:12 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: [h-cost] Bustle dress question Hi, I have a bustle dress and I am wondering if it would look weird to make an evening bodice for the dress. The dress is very simple and made from cotton. But I have just one week to finish a coat and vest for my husband and a dress for me. This is the dress http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Bustle/Bustle.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
Deredere , Is there any way you could do an overlay for the top of the skirt, that way it would be a little more fancy. -Original Message- From: Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:12:25 +0100 Subject: [h-cost] Bustle dress question Hi, I have a bustle dress and I am wondering if it would look weird to make an evening bodice for the dress. The dress is very simple and made from cotton. But I have just one week to finish a coat and vest for my husband and a dress for me. This is the dress http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Bustle/Bustle.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
Unfortionally I can't find any fabric that looks right with the purple. And I won't be able to buy new fabric. It is just a normal party and the people won't know if it is not right. It is just that the dress doesn't feel like an evening dress to me. But you all gave me some ideas. What I could do is add some white lace to the bottom of the apron. And also use the lace on the evening bodice. And some darkpurple satin ribbon decoration on the bottom of the skirt. Maby that will do it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
In a message dated 12/12/2005 10:07:47 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Looking at your dress, I wonder if you could leave the apron off the skirt for evening wear? That checked fabric is very daytime, not formal enough for evening. I agree about the checked fabric, but you seem to be stuck with it for the ruffle, unless you can face taking it off. If you have to leave it intact, yes, take off the apron, make one in a different fabric, and maybe use the check as trim on the evening bodice--a ruffle around a low neck, perhaps? Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
I agree about the checked fabric, but you seem to be stuck with it for the ruffle, unless you can face taking it off. If you have to leave it intact, yes, take off the apron, make one in a different fabric, and maybe use the check as trim on the evening bodice--a ruffle around a low neck, perhaps? I agree with Ann above, if you have more of the solid purple use it to make some kind of drape for the back of the dress. Didn't evening gowns have trains? Lots of satin ribbon on the back drape, maybe some bows or something dimensional, too. Seems like a lot of sewing, but satin ribbon can all go on by machine. Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
In a message dated 12/12/2005 2:43:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seems like a lot of sewing, but satin ribbon can all go on by machine. Not really since a plain ol' length of fabric can be gunched and bunched up with pins or tacking into a beautiful drape for the train. And lots of tortured bows can be pin on from behind too. It's a shame, since you already have the correct underpinnings and a pattern you know works, you cannot just get some fantastic fabric and make a plain gown to wear. Y'know, not a bunch of flounces and ruffles but a striking stripped down elegant gown is some fabric that is itself the design and the draw...a rich green cut velvet or a red and gold satin brocade. I bet you could whip it up in a matter of hours. But 8 to 10 yards of such fabric adds up fast! ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
And don't forget, this was a period when fringes were popular! You can use cotton or chenille, 1-3 would be suitable. I have been using some of the fancy yarns lately for color, texture, and economy to create my own trims. They emulate antique items in my collection. Kathleen - Original Message - From: Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question Unfortionally I can't find any fabric that looks right with the purple. And I won't be able to buy new fabric. It is just a normal party and the people won't know if it is not right. It is just that the dress doesn't feel like an evening dress to me. But you all gave me some ideas. What I could do is add some white lace to the bottom of the apron. And also use the lace on the evening bodice. And some darkpurple satin ribbon decoration on the bottom of the skirt. Maby that will do it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
I love fringes and use them on all of my bustle gowns - have you had a look at the dresses on the Truly Victorian website - they can give you lots of ideas. I added black trim to my purple gown. http://trulyvictorian.netfirms.com/picturepro/nfpicturepro/index.php http://trulyvictorian.netfirms.com/photo.html Cheers, Aylwen Garden http://www.aylwen.com Lloyd Mitchell wrote: And don't forget, this was a period when fringes were popular! You can use cotton or chenille, 1-3 would be suitable. I have been using some of the fancy yarns lately for color, texture, and economy to create my own trims. They emulate antique items in my collection. Kathleen - Original Message - From: Deredere Galbraith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:57 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question Unfortionally I can't find any fabric that looks right with the purple. And I won't be able to buy new fabric. It is just a normal party and the people won't know if it is not right. It is just that the dress doesn't feel like an evening dress to me. But you all gave me some ideas. What I could do is add some white lace to the bottom of the apron. And also use the lace on the evening bodice. And some darkpurple satin ribbon decoration on the bottom of the skirt. Maby that will do it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Bustle dress question
On Monday 12 December 2005 12:57 pm, Deredere Galbraith wrote: Unfortionally I can't find any fabric that looks right with the purple. And I won't be able to buy new fabric. It is just a normal party and the people won't know if it is not right. It is just that the dress doesn't feel like an evening dress to me. But you all gave me some ideas. What I could do is add some white lace to the bottom of the apron. And also use the lace on the evening bodice. And some darkpurple satin ribbon decoration on the bottom of the skirt. Maby that will do it. If I were doing it, I'd consider making a new apron, to completely cover the checked one, for evening wear. But if you can't find a suitable fabric, there goes that idea. (Have you considered solid white or ivory? That might work). -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] Physics is like sex; sure, it may give some practical results, but that's not why we do it.--Richard Feynman ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
