RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
bad...naughty...have some chocolate. :) -Original Message- I guess it's all a matter of whose ox (or gown) gets gored... (Sorry; the pun fairy made me do it...) ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
I guess it's all a matter of whose ox (or gown) gets gored... (Sorry; the pun fairy made me do it...) On Nov 13, 2006, at 4:59 PM, Zuzana Kraemerova wrote: Now I feel really bad about posting this "gores question". The picture just kind of caught my eye, as I'd heard some people telling me that contrasting gores were accurate in the middle ages - a fact that I wasn't very sure of. So I just wanted to ask. It wasn't meant to doubt the lady's work at all. Lauren M. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
Now I feel really bad about posting this "gores question". The picture just kind of caught my eye, as I'd heard some people telling me that contrasting gores were accurate in the middle ages - a fact that I wasn't very sure of. So I just wanted to ask. It wasn't meant to doubt the lady's work at all. Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am beginning to be tired of the incredible rudeness of this list to a fellow costumer who doesn't know she is being ripped to pieces. Would anyone be so rude to someone who is a list member? I think not. The lady obviously makes "good" costumes as well as not so good - don't we all? Just because it is not what this list approves of doesn't give us the right to be rude. Her address was given in good faith as someone who might be able to supply some goods. I am embarrassed that I gave her name, as I had no expectation of the sniping and carping that would go on. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
ld someone send the link to the actual page this item is on? I've been all through the Medieval stuff and don't see it. MaggiRos --- Gail & Scott Finke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Okay I couldn't resist and looked it up. Actually, > this one (if it's the > right one I'm looking at) says it's made to order in > standard sizes, so it's > not custom. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
Ditto, Patty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Voncile W. Dudley Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:24 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts You put it in great words. I tried to but your's is much much better. Lady Von Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I said itBAD DESIGN. > >Let's all learn from it. > >There should be a LOGIC to designsa logic that is true from head to foot. I am beginning to be tired of the incredible rudeness of this list to a fellow costumer who doesn't know she is being ripped to pieces. Would anyone be so rude to someone who is a list member? I think not. The lady obviously makes "good" costumes as well as not so good - don't we all? Just because it is not what this list approves of doesn't give us the right to be rude. Her address was given in good faith as someone who might be able to supply some goods. I am embarrassed that I gave her name, as I had no expectation of the sniping and carping that would go on. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Lady Von http://www.wildthangstreasures.com - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
You put it in great words. I tried to but your's is much much better. Lady Von Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I said itBAD DESIGN. > >Let's all learn from it. > >There should be a LOGIC to designsa logic that is true from head to foot. I am beginning to be tired of the incredible rudeness of this list to a fellow costumer who doesn't know she is being ripped to pieces. Would anyone be so rude to someone who is a list member? I think not. The lady obviously makes "good" costumes as well as not so good - don't we all? Just because it is not what this list approves of doesn't give us the right to be rude. Her address was given in good faith as someone who might be able to supply some goods. I am embarrassed that I gave her name, as I had no expectation of the sniping and carping that would go on. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Lady Von http://www.wildthangstreasures.com - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
Glad you meant well but unfortunately it didn't come across that way. ** The site has some very nice stuff on it. This red thing is NOT one of them. Oh well. I don't think the sky is gonna fall or her business will suffer. I don't see that it's that big a deal. I clearly stated what I thought was wrong with the design, instead of just saying "I don't like it". One can agree or disagree with me. I'd tell her to her face that the skirt treatment destroys the illusion set up by the bodice, and that makes it a poorly thought out design. I don't see why anybody should lose sleep over any of it. I just pointed it out in the hopes that no one else making clothes will mistakenly go down the same path. I'm sure many would find things I make ugly too. [They have!] But that's OK...and I'd like to know why they don't like it. I'm not so thin skinned as to not be able to take criticism...even catty criticism...and use it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Lady Von http://www.wildthangstreasures.com - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
In a message dated 11/13/2006 12:26:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Her address was given in good faith as someone who might be able to supply some goods. I am embarrassed that I gave her name, as I had no expectation of the sniping and carping that would go on. ** The site has some very nice stuff on it. This red thing is NOT one of them. Oh well. I don't think the sky is gonna fall or her business will suffer. I don't see that it's that big a deal. I clearly stated what I thought was wrong with the design, instead of just saying "I don't like it". One can agree or disagree with me. I'd tell her to her face that the skirt treatment destroys the illusion set up by the bodice, and that makes it a poorly thought out design. I don't see why anybody should lose sleep over any of it. I just pointed it out in the hopes that no one else making clothes will mistakenly go down the same path. I'm sure many would find things I make ugly too. [They have!] But that's OK...and I'd like to know why they don't like it. I'm not so thin skinned as to not be able to take criticism...even catty criticism...and use it. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
At 17:00 13/11/2006, you wrote: In a message dated 11/13/2006 10:18:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay I couldn't resist and looked it up. Actually, this one (if it's the right one I'm looking at) says it's made to order in standard sizes, so it's not custom. And IMHO it's ugly, I must agree. It is ugly! Let's just peruse the design, shall we? The different reds look pretty ugly to me, but all personal color choices aside The upper part of the gown is made to look like a gown with hanging sleeves, with tight sleeves from an undergown in brocade showing. So far so good. Now this isn't my period by a long shot, but I'm sure they faked this in the period. Still, would not a T-shaped construction be correct, if not more common, in this time than set in sleeves? [Like I said, it's not my period] If there's no armseye seam, this sleeve coming from under another sleeve seems hard to fake. Still, it's not unfathomable, and the dress does have set in sleeves... so that's OK. But then the whole illusion is destroyed when we get to the lower skirts. Were it a full skirt of brocade with the red overskirts slit at intervals to reveal the brocade, OK. But this is not what we have. We are stuck with what is obviously one pieced layera red dress trimmed in the same brocade as the tight sleeves of a supposed undergown. Why go thru all the trouble to fool the eye from the waist up only to kill that illusion with bad design below? I said itBAD DESIGN. Let's all learn from it. There should be a LOGIC to designsa logic that is true from head to foot. I am beginning to be tired of the incredible rudeness of this list to a fellow costumer who doesn't know she is being ripped to pieces. Would anyone be so rude to someone who is a list member? I think not. The lady obviously makes "good" costumes as well as not so good - don't we all? Just because it is not what this list approves of doesn't give us the right to be rude. Her address was given in good faith as someone who might be able to supply some goods. I am embarrassed that I gave her name, as I had no expectation of the sniping and carping that would go on. Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Re: gores in skirts
In a message dated 11/13/2006 10:18:53 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Okay I couldn't resist and looked it up. Actually, this one (if it's the right one I'm looking at) says it's made to order in standard sizes, so it's not custom. And IMHO it's ugly, I must agree. It is ugly! Let's just peruse the design, shall we? The different reds look pretty ugly to me, but all personal color choices aside The upper part of the gown is made to look like a gown with hanging sleeves, with tight sleeves from an undergown in brocade showing. So far so good. Now this isn't my period by a long shot, but I'm sure they faked this in the period. Still, would not a T-shaped construction be correct, if not more common, in this time than set in sleeves? [Like I said, it's not my period] If there's no armseye seam, this sleeve coming from under another sleeve seems hard to fake. Still, it's not unfathomable, and the dress does have set in sleeves... so that's OK. But then the whole illusion is destroyed when we get to the lower skirts. Were it a full skirt of brocade with the red overskirts slit at intervals to reveal the brocade, OK. But this is not what we have. We are stuck with what is obviously one pieced layera red dress trimmed in the same brocade as the tight sleeves of a supposed undergown. Why go thru all the trouble to fool the eye from the waist up only to kill that illusion with bad design below? I said itBAD DESIGN. Let's all learn from it. There should be a LOGIC to designsa logic that is true from head to foot. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
