Re: [Haifux] W2L meeting
ביום שלישי, 9 באוגוסט 2005, 18:46, נכתב על ידי Adir Abraham: Technical: second lecture - install + network how about we install a distro live in that lecture and tell people what each phase does? 2. Distro - which distro to work with? If nobody is against - let me do the final decision like last year. can you decide ehad? :) great local community, developed here. we can have an upgrade disc, with OOo2, and some other stuff not found on the original disk. I think you did something similar last year, or the year before with RH9. -- diego, kde-il translation team, http://www.kde.org/il Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] W2L meeting
Adir Abraham wrote: 2. Distro - which distro to work with? If nobody is against - let me do the final decision like last year. I'll dig my email from last year, giving the exact requests, etc. The more people who join the effort and say how a specific distribution is good for a *beginner* user, we will have a better choice. Please seperate in your mind between a distribution that you love, and between a distribution that fits to a beginner and a beginner would love to: install, try, have no hard work. Assume that the person IS technically-challenge (or real-life non-challenged? :), and simply wants to install everything, as easy as possible. I'll give a list of up-to-date distros later. You could consider an installation of Debian-Hebrew, it is a very simple installation, providing a fully Hebrew system based on the Gnome desktop with a full set of applications. It should also be possible to produce a special version for an InstaParty with a choice of software for your needs. Baruch -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Haifux] W2L meeting
Hi all, I think the best distro for beginners is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ Enjoy. Eli Maor -Original Message- From: Haifux - Haifa Linux Club [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baruch Even Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:16 PM To: Adir Abraham Cc: Haifa Linux Club Subject: Re: [Haifux] W2L meeting Adir Abraham wrote: 2. Distro - which distro to work with? If nobody is against - let me do the final decision like last year. I'll dig my email from last year, giving the exact requests, etc. The more people who join the effort and say how a specific distribution is good for a *beginner* user, we will have a better choice. Please seperate in your mind between a distribution that you love, and between a distribution that fits to a beginner and a beginner would love to: install, try, have no hard work. Assume that the person IS technically-challenge (or real-life non-challenged? :), and simply wants to install everything, as easy as possible. I'll give a list of up-to-date distros later. You could consider an installation of Debian-Hebrew, it is a very simple installation, providing a fully Hebrew system based on the Gnome desktop with a full set of applications. It should also be possible to produce a special version for an InstaParty with a choice of software for your needs. Baruch -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] W2L meeting
great idea. -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it wasn't for C, we'd be writing programs in BASI, PASAL, and OBOL, anon Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys.) On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, guy keren wrote: by the way this looks, i think that a missing piece is a web site that we will give to people, and which will contain instructions about how to get from nothing, to a machine connected to the net, with development environemnts (for the programmers), hebrew set up in everything, etc, in the do-it-yourself method. i will try to collect the material needed for this, and prepare this site (in hebrew, i gather?). it could have good use beyond w2l, too. i'll prepare a layout (not graphical design - a schematic layout) for how i view this and post it when it's done. --guy On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Orr Dunkelman wrote: As part of today's meeting we had the following series in mind: Two tracks: Technical and non-technical. First lecture: Joint lecture, the blitz lecture. Many dazzling demo's. technically no slides, but mostly presentations. Thelist of things to present TBD later. Non technical: second lecture - why linux. FOSS, money, ideology issues. Technical: second lecture - install + network third lecture - basic admin + hebrew (+ little shell) fourth lecture - How to move on - RTFM, asking questions, solving problems, finishing stuff we didn't cover in third lecture. In a nutshell: the technical people should understand a bit how things work in Linux. We give mostly demoes, but have an ordered explaination and HOWTOs in the website. Lectures: 2 X 45/50 min. with 10-15 minute break. PR: We need slogan. something catchy good and useful. Ayelet (EzAton's wife) has volunteered to help with design of posters again. This time, posters are to have short text (up to 30 words). I guess we'll add next to these posters, posters with the time tables and some other data (which can be of much lesser quality, i.e., black-white and non-color). Shlomi Atar and Ayelet will design together a website (Shlomi is a professional designer). Ohad Lotzky will make sure the website is w3c. Open fronts: - Posters: text + hanging - Fliers: do we need them? if so, design+text+distribution - Websites: banners, links, etc. - Forums - papers (especailly e-papers). - blogs? I need soliders. People willing to invest time in hanging (inside the Technion this might be relatively easy, but we still need backups). -- Big issues still open: 1. InstaParty/Linux Day - do we take the effort? On one hand last times were quite a fiasco. On the other, with enough PR - things may be much better. 2. Distro - which distro to work with? 3. People - volunteering to do stuff... --- Some dates interfaces: - New website design, operational on 23/AUG (content to be added later). takes into consideration the fact that there are other LUGs. (shlomiA + Ayelet, technical supervision - Ohad) - Slogan - I need someone that handles the choosing of a slogan. Mainly: asking for slogans, sorting them out, and finding the good one. First volunteer, first deals with that. - Posters Fliers (if needed) - design + Text finished by 23/SEP. Needed: someone to handle texts (I believe each LUG would need to add its own text to the info posters). someone to handle the text on ad poster. - Lectures making lecturers - needed: someone to manager this aspect. volunteers for managing this, please send me mail. Times: chosing manager: 14/AUG. Writing the lectures: Alpha version - 14/SEP, Beta - 1/OCT, final - 15/OCT. Also responsible on manning the lectures (some of them may need two lecturers, or more precisely - lecturer+ assistant). - PR: Needed: people willing to put posters, talk with schools etc. I suggest to divide this into 3 major categories: * schools - needed a manager that motivates poeple to talk with schools, etc. * electronic PR - manager to deal with forums, websites, banners, etc. * regular PR - manager to deal with hanging posters, prinitng, fiers, etc. - Sponsoring: I think hamakor can really help with that, especially with national sponsors (those sponsoring all three clubs). Volunteer to handle this? - Finding other LUGs doing this - It'd be nice if Telux and JLC would tell us soon whetehr they are with us or not. If other LUG wish to joing, it'd be nice to locate them now. comments, flames, etc. - please shout now... btw, if the nice people of hamakor can reinit the [EMAIL PROTECTED], that would be nice. also, it was suggested to try and get w2l.org.il. -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it
Re: [Haifux] W2L meeting
Technical: second lecture - install + network how about we install a distro live in that lecture and tell people what each phase does? That is the plan (just like we did last time) can you decide ehad? :) great local community, developed here. we can have an upgrade disc, with OOo2, and some other stuff not found on the original disk. I think you did something similar last year, or the year before with RH9. the year before. The idea is to find the best-distro-for-newbie. As there are many things we need to worry about (most important: hardware recognition and friendliness), Adir suggested that people would install on virtual machines (or clean machines, or whatever) various distro's and behave like a complete newbie, trying to estimate how good the distro is for the newbie. Orr. -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Haifux] W2L meeting
Dear all, Such input as what the best distro is kind and welcome, but not as much as usefull as detailed evalutaion saying: Distro X has good hardware support, easy to use menues, ... Please send Adir (which is now officially responsible for selecting the haifux' distro of this year W2L) your comments (this can be done off-list). Also, I suggest we start to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Regards to all (from Kingston, ON, Canada), -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it wasn't for C, we'd be writing programs in BASI, PASAL, and OBOL, anon Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys.) On Wed, 10 Aug 2005, Eyal Maor wrote: Hi all, I think the best distro for beginners is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download/ Enjoy. Eli Maor -Original Message- From: Haifux - Haifa Linux Club [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Baruch Even Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 11:16 PM To: Adir Abraham Cc: Haifa Linux Club Subject: Re: [Haifux] W2L meeting Adir Abraham wrote: 2. Distro - which distro to work with? If nobody is against - let me do the final decision like last year. I'll dig my email from last year, giving the exact requests, etc. The more people who join the effort and say how a specific distribution is good for a *beginner* user, we will have a better choice. Please seperate in your mind between a distribution that you love, and between a distribution that fits to a beginner and a beginner would love to: install, try, have no hard work. Assume that the person IS technically-challenge (or real-life non-challenged? :), and simply wants to install everything, as easy as possible. I'll give a list of up-to-date distros later. You could consider an installation of Debian-Hebrew, it is a very simple installation, providing a fully Hebrew system based on the Gnome desktop with a full set of applications. It should also be possible to produce a special version for an InstaParty with a choice of software for your needs. Baruch -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] W2L meeting
Hi, I assume that we will have an instaparty (details are later in this email), so I relate my replies to this fact as well. Everywhere I haven't replied, is totally accetable by me. On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Orr Dunkelman wrote: Non technical: second lecture - why linux. FOSS, money, ideology issues. Technical: second lecture - install + network Should be around 2.5 hours. 1-1.5 hours about installing the distribution that we chose (please see this booklet/lecture http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~adir/lectures/MandrakeInstLect.pdf for example), and the rest about net installation - general and specific. Lectures: 2 X 45/50 min. with 10-15 minute break. Except for the 2nd lecture, which should be combined from two lectures. Don't forget that after this lecture, people actually can try to install the distribution and to use it with the net. PR: We need slogan. something catchy good and useful. Linux - the free choice generation ? Open fronts: - Posters: text + hanging - Fliers: do we need them? if so, design+text+distribution - Websites: banners, links, etc. - Forums - papers (especailly e-papers). - blogs? I need soliders. People willing to invest time in hanging (inside the Technion this might be relatively easy, but we still need backups). I'll help with forums, and Technion internals. I'll think about more later. Big issues still open: 1. InstaParty/Linux Day - do we take the effort? On one hand last times were quite a fiasco. On the other, with enough PR - things may be much better. I am robbed, but, YES! This is the only (last?) oppurtunity to check if good PR Instaparty can come together, and the answer is big yes! 2. Distro - which distro to work with? If nobody is against - let me do the final decision like last year. I'll dig my email from last year, giving the exact requests, etc. The more people who join the effort and say how a specific distribution is good for a *beginner* user, we will have a better choice. Please seperate in your mind between a distribution that you love, and between a distribution that fits to a beginner and a beginner would love to: install, try, have no hard work. Assume that the person IS technically-challenge (or real-life non-challenged? :), and simply wants to install everything, as easy as possible. I'll give a list of up-to-date distros later. 3. People - volunteering to do stuff... Instaparty stuff? I'll try to dig them. People - please join this mission. If we're going to have good PR, this will be like a very big bonus to the event. Some dates interfaces: - New website design, operational on 23/AUG (content to be added later). takes into consideration the fact that there are other LUGs. (shlomiA + Ayelet, technical supervision - Ohad) Not only I agree, but also a big Yes. Let the designers attract people. - Lectures making lecturers - needed: someone to manager this aspect. I can hold this if needed. volunteers for managing this, please send me mail. Times: chosing manager: 14/AUG. Writing the lectures: Alpha version - 14/SEP, Beta - 1/OCT, final - 15/OCT. Also responsible on manning the lectures (some of them may need two lecturers, or more precisely - lecturer+ assistant). - Sponsoring: I think hamakor can really help with that, especially with national sponsors (those sponsoring all three clubs). Volunteer to handle this? We also need to get real sponsors too. Regards, Adir. -- Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Haifux] W2L meeting
by the way this looks, i think that a missing piece is a web site that we will give to people, and which will contain instructions about how to get from nothing, to a machine connected to the net, with development environemnts (for the programmers), hebrew set up in everything, etc, in the do-it-yourself method. i will try to collect the material needed for this, and prepare this site (in hebrew, i gather?). it could have good use beyond w2l, too. i'll prepare a layout (not graphical design - a schematic layout) for how i view this and post it when it's done. --guy On Tue, 9 Aug 2005, Orr Dunkelman wrote: As part of today's meeting we had the following series in mind: Two tracks: Technical and non-technical. First lecture: Joint lecture, the blitz lecture. Many dazzling demo's. technically no slides, but mostly presentations. Thelist of things to present TBD later. Non technical: second lecture - why linux. FOSS, money, ideology issues. Technical: second lecture - install + network third lecture - basic admin + hebrew (+ little shell) fourth lecture - How to move on - RTFM, asking questions, solving problems, finishing stuff we didn't cover in third lecture. In a nutshell: the technical people should understand a bit how things work in Linux. We give mostly demoes, but have an ordered explaination and HOWTOs in the website. Lectures: 2 X 45/50 min. with 10-15 minute break. PR: We need slogan. something catchy good and useful. Ayelet (EzAton's wife) has volunteered to help with design of posters again. This time, posters are to have short text (up to 30 words). I guess we'll add next to these posters, posters with the time tables and some other data (which can be of much lesser quality, i.e., black-white and non-color). Shlomi Atar and Ayelet will design together a website (Shlomi is a professional designer). Ohad Lotzky will make sure the website is w3c. Open fronts: - Posters: text + hanging - Fliers: do we need them? if so, design+text+distribution - Websites: banners, links, etc. - Forums - papers (especailly e-papers). - blogs? I need soliders. People willing to invest time in hanging (inside the Technion this might be relatively easy, but we still need backups). -- Big issues still open: 1. InstaParty/Linux Day - do we take the effort? On one hand last times were quite a fiasco. On the other, with enough PR - things may be much better. 2. Distro - which distro to work with? 3. People - volunteering to do stuff... --- Some dates interfaces: - New website design, operational on 23/AUG (content to be added later). takes into consideration the fact that there are other LUGs. (shlomiA + Ayelet, technical supervision - Ohad) - Slogan - I need someone that handles the choosing of a slogan. Mainly: asking for slogans, sorting them out, and finding the good one. First volunteer, first deals with that. - Posters Fliers (if needed) - design + Text finished by 23/SEP. Needed: someone to handle texts (I believe each LUG would need to add its own text to the info posters). someone to handle the text on ad poster. - Lectures making lecturers - needed: someone to manager this aspect. volunteers for managing this, please send me mail. Times: chosing manager: 14/AUG. Writing the lectures: Alpha version - 14/SEP, Beta - 1/OCT, final - 15/OCT. Also responsible on manning the lectures (some of them may need two lecturers, or more precisely - lecturer+ assistant). - PR: Needed: people willing to put posters, talk with schools etc. I suggest to divide this into 3 major categories: * schools - needed a manager that motivates poeple to talk with schools, etc. * electronic PR - manager to deal with forums, websites, banners, etc. * regular PR - manager to deal with hanging posters, prinitng, fiers, etc. - Sponsoring: I think hamakor can really help with that, especially with national sponsors (those sponsoring all three clubs). Volunteer to handle this? - Finding other LUGs doing this - It'd be nice if Telux and JLC would tell us soon whetehr they are with us or not. If other LUG wish to joing, it'd be nice to locate them now. comments, flames, etc. - please shout now... btw, if the nice people of hamakor can reinit the [EMAIL PROTECTED], that would be nice. also, it was suggested to try and get w2l.org.il. -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] If it wasn't for C, we'd be writing programs in BASI, PASAL, and OBOL, anon Spammers: http://vipe.technion.ac.il/~orrd/spam.html GPG fingerprint:C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B32023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys.)
