Re: [Hampshire] Hantslug gallery update
2009/7/31 pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com: 2009/7/30 Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk: Take more recent pics, then? :) Then go ahead and add them... I haven't been to any of the hantslug meets so I neither could upload or recognise members . I will surely come to the next meet and do it :) Hi Pavithran, The responses to your original suggestion seem to indicate that you are the one who feels most passionate about the state of the Gallery. Therefore I would suggest that makes you the most suitable person to do something about it. After all, that is how the HantsLug wiki started. Someone, I think it was Tony, decided to trial one. It then got adopted. Build a sample gallery, with whatever system you feel would work well, and then trial it somewhere. I can even host it for you if that is a problem. Let others know about it. If enough like it, then it may get taken up. If you really feel it is a good idea, don't be put off by the negative sounding comments in this thread. If you trial something, and it is good, you will get support. However, if it turns out to be rubbish, just don that fire proof jacket :-) -- Philip Stubbs -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hantslug gallery update
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:15:12AM +0100, pavithran wrote: 2009/7/30 Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk: 1. Please update the gallery software Without meaning to come across as a miserable curmudgeon(*), what would newer software gain, other than a fleeting warm fuzzy feeling of running something up to date, and an indefinable odour of undiscovered security flaws? http://codex.gallery2.org/G1-G2_Comparison and Gallery 3 is going to be released soon . Aren't we as linux users on Cutting edge ? There’s no point in using bleeding-edge software for the sake of it. On the other hand, there’s no sense using old software for the sake of it, either. If there’s some reason not to upgrade, then don’t. 2 . Use some candy template ( but usable) I'd rather do without. The primary function of the gallery is to show the pictures that people have taken, not to surround them with distracting fripperies. Agree but I didn't ask for a candy template which has all that Ajax features which suck the memory/processing memory . I just asking for a nice looking gallery template which is *usable* :) You haven’t explained what’s not usable about the current template. It seems fine to me. Well no wrong in using the old gallery software . But the reason for my mail was the gallery didn't render properly in my Minefield 3.6a ( firefox 3.6 alpha ) browser . I had to reload the page sometimes to get the gallery right . This was happening only in Album display page . Hence my opinion is to move from the old un supported software to something new . You’re using new, unsupported software and surprised that it doesn’t work? Are you certain that the gallery is to blame and not the alpha browser you’re using? -- Benjamin M. A’Lee || mail: b...@subvert.org.uk web: http://bma.subvert.org.uk/ || gpg: 0x166891C7 “Now, now, dear man, this is not the time to be making enemies.” — Voltaire, on his deathbed when a priest asked him to “renounce Satan” pgpuSc4z5mhBm.pgp Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hantslug gallery update
Hi Pavithran, I'm the (current) web master for HantsLUG so I guess I can answer some of your questions/concerns. 2009/7/30 pavithran pavithra...@gmail.com: The pictures at http://hants.lug.org.uk/gallery/ are really good but the gallery software looks too old :( It's gallery 1.5.4 which has been around a while and has served us well. I initially setup the gallery many years ago to host photos taken at LUG meets. Since then gallery2 has been released but we've never had a request to upgrade, yours is the first. We don't tend to have too many people taking photos at LUG meets any more, and those that do probably have their own hosting, whereas when we started doing this, many people didn't. Here are my requests: 1. Please update the gallery software It's the latest version of gallery 1.x supplied in Debian 4.0 that we use on the server. Gallery2 is in the repository too, but I've personally had issues migrating from gallery1 to gallery2 so in the past have been reluctant to do so. These issues include:- * URLs to photos changing in the upgrade, breaking search engine fu, and any inbound links from elsewhere. * Increased load on the server as the new version of gallery introduces cpu-intensive photo scaling features. If anyone has experience of mitigating these two outstanding issues then I'm happy for us to move with the times and move to gallery2. 2 . Use some candy template ( but usable) In the interim I have changed the template used on the site, one chosen pretty much at random. No, I'm not looking for opinions on which theme to use right now, I just changed it because the existing one was somewhat plain. 3. Upload more recent pics If someone takes some, sure. I am happy to create accounts for HantsLUG members for the gallery on the understanding that they will only upload photos from LUG meets where there is no legal/taste reason they should not. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hantslug gallery update
Alan Pope wrote: * Increased load on the server as the new version of gallery introduces cpu-intensive photo scaling features. If anyone has experience of mitigating these two outstanding issues then I'm happy for us to move with the times and move to gallery2. I'm sure there'll be some spare capacity on Soton Uni's new iDataPlex[0] if you need it. Simon [0] http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/31/southampton_uni_idataplex/ -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hantslug gallery update
On Friday 31 July 2009 03:15:12 pavithran wrote: Aren't we as linux users on Cutting edge ? No Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Hantslug gallery update
On 07/31/2009 10:57 AM, Lisi wrote: On Friday 31 July 2009 03:15:12 pavithran wrote: Aren't we as linux users on Cutting edge ? No Lisi I'd agree with that, it is sometimes referred to as the Bleeding Edge for a reason! I like to live by the if it ain't broke, don't fix it motto and try to avoid doing things (especially upgrading software) without there being a compelling reason to do so. I've been burned in the past and ended up spending days recovering back to a working system due to an over enthusiasm to be on the latest and greatest version just for the sake of it ;) Now if there are good reasons to upgrade, all well and good, otherwise I say leave well enough alone. And yeah, some more up to date photos would be nice, but being as of yet I haven't managed to make it along to a single meeting I don't really feel in a position to comment on that one ;) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An excellent description of Windows Mobile
I've had colleagues with Windows-based smart phones, blackberries and I-phones. Personally I prefer the I-phone (oooh, Tim being pro-Apple... how often does that happen?) from a set-up point of view, and those who have had them seem very happy with them. The gripe I have with Blackberries (which I presume is the plural of Blackberry), other than a questionable choice on the touch-screen with certain models, is the web-based setup procedure. Not a major concern, just not the way I'd want to set it up. My colleague with the windows smart phone got rid of it some time ago, as it would occasionally crash during calls, holding the GPRS line connected, and consequently costing a not insignificant amount of money over a month. I try not to Microsoft-bash for the sake of it, and I try to keep an open mind about their new products, but you must admit, they do produce some grade A s**t at times. Incidentally, all three listed can connect to both Exchange and IMAP. Cheers, Tim B. On Friday 31 July 2009 08:43:48 Samuel Penn wrote: On Friday 31 July 2009 07:22:38 Stephen Davies wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/30/microsoft_mobile_bach/comments/ Warning, reading this may require you to clean your keyboard screen. couple with the release of the HTC Hero in the UK (hint, runs Android) http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sim-free-htc-hero-white-p20549.htm?referer=N20 09 0730_Extinct_Name-toptextHTCHeroAccessories I can see the writing on the wall for Windows Mobile unless some serious $$$ can persuade makers otherwise. Some friends of mine have Windows mobiles, and they're great. Nice hardware, and the software seems to work just fine. Being able to just connect into the company's Exchange server to access contacts, calendar and email whilst on the move is what I'd consider a killer feature as far as business users are concerned. Don't make the mistake of underestimating Microsoft just because you don't like them. -- Be seeing you, http://www.glendale.org.uk Sam.Mail/IM (Jabber): s...@glendale.org.uk -- OpenPilot - Open-source Marine Chart Plotter Lead Developer http://openpilot.sourceforge.net -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An excellent description of Windows Mobile
At 21:29 31/07/2009, you wrote: I've had colleagues with Windows-based smart phones, blackberries and I-phones. Personally I prefer the I-phone (oooh, Tim being pro-Apple... how often does that happen?) from a set-up point of view, and those who have had them seem very happy with them. The gripe I have with Blackberries (which I presume is the plural of Blackberry), other than a questionable choice on the touch-screen with certain models, is the web-based setup procedure. Not a major concern, just not the way I'd want to set it up. My colleague with the windows smart phone got rid of it some time ago, as it would occasionally crash during calls, holding the GPRS line connected, and consequently costing a not insignificant amount of money over a month. I try not to Microsoft-bash for the sake of it, and I try to keep an open mind about their new products, but you must admit, they do produce some grade A s**t at times. Incidentally, all three listed can connect to both Exchange and IMAP. There is the older palm classic range like the Treo however there is now the palm Pre thats getting good reviews in the US. Will be in uk around Sept/Oct. From what i can tell from ex palm users it seems win mob offers more of the flexibility and the amount of applications that the palm does than blackberry or iphone. Martin N Owner of the bwfc yahoogroup and Co-Moderator of MiniDisc and amithlonopen yahoo groups. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An excellent description of Windows Mobile
Samuel Penn wrote: On Friday 31 July 2009 07:22:38 Stephen Davies wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/07/30/microsoft_mobile_bach/comments/ Warning, reading this may require you to clean your keyboard screen. couple with the release of the HTC Hero in the UK (hint, runs Android) http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/sim-free-htc-hero-white-p20549.htm?referer=N2009 0730_Extinct_Name-toptextHTCHeroAccessories I can see the writing on the wall for Windows Mobile unless some serious $$$ can persuade makers otherwise. Some friends of mine have Windows mobiles, and they're great. Nice hardware, and the software seems to work just fine. Being able to just connect into the company's Exchange server to access contacts, calendar and email whilst on the move is what I'd consider a killer feature as far as business users are concerned. Don't make the mistake of underestimating Microsoft just because you don't like them. Windows mobile has nothing in common with MS Windows other than I think they are both poorly coded, buggy and virus prone. Whereas something like Android is Linux, just like any distro such as Ubuntu runs on and are excellent, secure, innovative and community driven. HTC magic and hero are real M$ mobile killers, even better than Nokia. Google understand technology and don't need abusive monopolistic practices to keep their market share. You are so old school thinking M$ can carry on abusing its market share. Don't underestimate Google just because you only know M$! John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] An excellent description of Windows Mobile
Timothy Brocklehurst wrote: The gripe I have with Blackberries (which I presume is the plural of Blackberry), other than a questionable choice on the touch-screen with certain models, is the web-based setup procedure. Not a major concern, just not the way I'd want to set it up. I look after all the BlackBerries at work and they're all activated via USB, though they can be activated remotely if necessary. James -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
