Re: [Hampshire] Wiki broken?

2012-11-08 Thread Alan Bell

On 05/11/12 15:46, Chris Dennis wrote:


Yes.  Adam had to shut down most access to the wiki because of all the 
spam.  And my very brief reading of the MoinMoin documentation 
suggests that the system wasn't designed to be secure: it's open to 
either everyone or no-one (except for 'superusers').  If I'm wrong 
about that, please let me know.

you can actually do quite a lot of access control stuff with moin
http://hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/HelpOnAccessControlLists
check out the various examples of ways you can configure a site for 
different scenarios, basically you end up creating pages with bulleted 
lists of people to make groups:

http://hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/HelpOnGroups
like this one but you can create more 
http://hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/AdminGroup

then use the group names (that is their wiki page names) in ACLs

Meanwhile I've started work on a WordPress version of the HantsLUG 
site at hants.lug.org.uk/wp.   I can set up accounts for people who 
want to contribute to that.  More details later...

yeah, Wordpress works great too

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Re: [Hampshire] Wiki broken?

2012-11-08 Thread Chris Dennis

On 05/11/12 21:31, Alan Bell wrote:

On 05/11/12 15:46, Chris Dennis wrote:


Yes.  Adam had to shut down most access to the wiki because of all the
spam.  And my very brief reading of the MoinMoin documentation
suggests that the system wasn't designed to be secure: it's open to
either everyone or no-one (except for 'superusers').  If I'm wrong
about that, please let me know.

you can actually do quite a lot of access control stuff with moin
http://hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/HelpOnAccessControlLists
check out the various examples of ways you can configure a site for
different scenarios, basically you end up creating pages with bulleted
lists of people to make groups:
http://hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/HelpOnGroups
like this one but you can create more
http://hants.lug.org.uk/wiki/AdminGroup
then use the group names (that is their wiki page names) in ACLs


Aha!  Thanks for those hints, Alan.  I now understand a bit more about 
MoinMoin.


So, this is the plan.  I've re-enabled new accounts, which means that 
anyone can create an account.  BUT, only users who are members of the 
'editors' group can change things.  If you want to be an editor, create 
an account, and let me know your user name by sending an email to 
webmas...@hantslug.org.uk.


Hopefully that will allow people to update the wiki, but keep the 
spammers out.


cheers

Chris

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Re: [Hampshire] [ADMIN] Who knows about MoinMoin wikis?

2012-11-08 Thread Chris Dennis

On 07/11/12 20:42, Chris Dennis wrote:

Hello Folks

I've just been having another look at the HantsLUG wiki
(http://www.hants.lug.org.uk/wiki), having been nagged to do so by the
Ubuntu UK Podcast.


Thanks for the various replies.

Please see my reply in the Wiki broken? thread for the New Plan.

cheers

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Fujitsu 1008AT 8 port LCD kvm for sale

2012-11-08 Thread Anton Piatek
You might want to clarify usb or ps2, dvi or vga.
Not that I have a use for an 8 port kvm myself.

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 I have a Fujitsu 1008AT 1u rack mount (complete with rails) 8 port
 foldaway LCD screen kvm complete with 5 kvm cables for sale.

 If anybody is interested then let me know off list.

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[Hampshire] Reminder: Surrey LUG Bring-a-box meeting: 10th November 2012, Lincore (Reigate)

2012-11-08 Thread Robert Longstaff
Hello. Just to remind you that the next Surrey Linux group meeting is 
this Saturday at Lincore (ReigateHub) in Reigate from 11am to 5pm.


If you can provide lifts, do let the list know.

We have two talks arranged so far and are always open to more. Details 
can be found at:


http://surrey.lug.org.uk/content/bab-nov-2012

Have fun!

robert_

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Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Fujitsu 1008AT 8 port LCD kvm for sale

2012-11-08 Thread Tim

On 08/11/12 19:21, Anton Piatek wrote:


You might want to clarify usb or ps2, dvi or vga.
Not that I have a use for an 8 port kvm myself.

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On 7 Nov 2012 21:25, Tim t...@xendistar.co.uk 
mailto:t...@xendistar.co.uk wrote:


I have a Fujitsu 1008AT 1u rack mount (complete with rails) 8 port
foldaway LCD screen kvm complete with 5 kvm cables for sale.

If anybody is interested then let me know off list.

Tim

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Good point Anton, thank you

The KVM is PS2 and VGA

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Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Unity

2012-11-08 Thread Gordon Scott


It isn't just me.

I've been trying to warm to Unity and had pretty much given up.

I'd set-up my wife's account in Unity to see how a less computer-savvy 
person gets on with the interface.

She does just mail, web, and very occasional WP, so nothing special.

Today she rebelled and declared it 'stupid'.

For her also, menus on the screen top-bar were so counter-intuitive that 
she thought they'd been removed.


So now, for the moment at least, we've both reverted to Gnome.

Personally I'll likely now switch to an fvwm set-up, which I always 
preferred, only having changed to Gnome to 'go with the flow'.


Sorry Alan, but we both strongly dislike Unity.

Gordon.


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Re: [Hampshire] Ubuntu Unity

2012-11-08 Thread Benjie Gillam
A few more data points:

My parents and uncle both find it confusing still after using it for a year. 
The invisible menus are the biggest issue for them.

My wife who is a programmer (so a little more tech savvy ;) dislikes it and 
finds the window grouping to be annoying/frustrating and the tray indicators to 
be buggy - especially with LibreOffice.

I don't find it confusing but I prefer GNOME 2 considerably and dislike the 
left hand tray (on widescreen you have to move your mouse further too!). I also 
find it's considerably slows me down, and the extra space produced doesn't seem 
necessary on my 2560x1440 monitor. I now use Mac primarily, despite having been 
using Linux almost exclusively since 2000 (when I was 14).

I've not heard anyone IRL singing it's praises, unlike GNOME 2.

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On 8 Nov 2012, at 22:37, Gordon Scott gor...@gscott.co.uk wrote:

 
 It isn't just me.
 
 I've been trying to warm to Unity and had pretty much given up.
 
 I'd set-up my wife's account in Unity to see how a less computer-savvy person 
 gets on with the interface.
 She does just mail, web, and very occasional WP, so nothing special.
 
 Today she rebelled and declared it 'stupid'.
 
 For her also, menus on the screen top-bar were so counter-intuitive that she 
 thought they'd been removed.
 
 So now, for the moment at least, we've both reverted to Gnome.
 
 Personally I'll likely now switch to an fvwm set-up, which I always 
 preferred, only having changed to Gnome to 'go with the flow'.
 
 Sorry Alan, but we both strongly dislike Unity.
 
 Gordon.
 
 
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