Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
*4* GPUs? Wow - I take it you've some funky vehicle or aircraft simulator running? Anyhow, just thought I'd follow up and say thanks for all for comments. I ended up getting a Core 2 Duo E6850 with an aBit I35-Pro mobo. The Zalman CPU cooler is fantastic and the PC is just a quiet hum in the background just as these things should be. My GPU has a heatsink, no fan so I guess thats lucky. A little OT but I also plumped for a 64GB SSD and am trying Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity (!) as my main desktop. From Grub hand-off I get to the login screen in about 5 seconds :-) I was intruiged by the remote desktop/VNC/SSH forwarding style suggestions and will maybe try them out as an experiment. Thanks again guys. On 2 May 2012 20:53, Samuel Penn s...@glendale.org.uk wrote: On Wednesday 02 May 2012 09:31:02 Brad Rogers wrote: No-one has mentioned water cooling. Very quiet indeed. Can be a scary prospect for some, but it does work. AS has been mentioned though, once you've eliminated the loudest noise (usually the CPU fan), you start hearing other things; GPU fan, drive motors Heh. If you think the CPU fan is the loudest noise, you haven't heard a gaming rig with 4 GPUs... :-) The loudest noise in my study (which has three running computers in it) is my GF's video cards in the next room. (But then admittedly, if you're going for something quiet, you're probably not looking at a box with 4 graphics cards). -- Be seeing you,Games: http://www.glendale.org.uk/ Sam. Posts: http://www.google.com/profiles/samuel.penn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- GPG Key fingerprint = B323 477E F6AB 4181 9C65 F637 BC5F 7FCC 9CC9 CC7F “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” - Indian political and spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On Thursday 03 May 2012 18:32:30 Gordon Scott wrote: On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 20:53 +0100, Samuel Penn wrote: Heh. If you think the CPU fan is the loudest noise, you haven't heard a gaming rig with 4 GPUs... :-) The loudest noise in my study (which has three running computers in it) is my GF's video cards in the next room. Gaming rig? ... Obviously you're not turning up the volume even _nearly_ enough :-D We learnt a long time ago to both use headphones. :-) -- Be seeing you,Games: http://www.glendale.org.uk/ Sam. Posts: http://www.google.com/profiles/samuel.penn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
undervolting works well. its also important for either chassis fans to maintain a flow of new air rather than allowing ambient temperature to rise inside. pastes are good but again needs to be accompanied with sufficient cooling. liquid coolers are cheaper these days, but for a p4 would probably be overkill. i find AMD cpus harder to cool, but bios/emi on modern chips have the Cool 'n' Quiet feature which usually just throttles the CPU to prevent heating + fans sponning harder. ian Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk wrote: On 01/05/12 22:43, Tim Brocklehurst wrote: That one looks interesting. There are some other (more monolithic) blocks with larger fans. The reason for looking to large diameter fans is to move the same amount of air with much reduced noise. There are some very detailed explanations of why this happens on the web, if you are particulary interested in this aspect (essentially, you operate a larger blade at lower lift, thereby reducing the vortex strength). I used something similar a few years back and whilst it will in all likelihood sound far less obtrusive in terms of noise than your current setup, you will still hear it. Further to the technical explanation above, these are desirable for the same reason most case manufacturers shy away from tiny fans these days: they are far less 'whiny' and some are supplied with a means of stepping the speed up or down according to your needs. I never used mine above low setting, even when gaming. Speaking of small whiny fans, make sure your graphics card is not contributing to the noise, as these often contribute to the racket and there are plenty of fanless alternatives out there if you don't intend to do anything fancy graphics-wise, save perhaps power a couple of big screens. For something really quiet look at the Shuttle X35, as with an SSD in there it is silent. A mate has one an rants about it as it makes his water-cooled gaming beast sound noisey by comparison. The onboard graphics solution powers his two monster displays to their proper resolution effortlessly by the way. Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 20:53 +0100, Samuel Penn wrote: Heh. If you think the CPU fan is the loudest noise, you haven't heard a gaming rig with 4 GPUs... :-) The loudest noise in my study (which has three running computers in it) is my GF's video cards in the next room. Gaming rig? ... Obviously you're not turning up the volume even _nearly_ enough :-D G. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On 01/05/12 22:43, Tim Brocklehurst wrote: That one looks interesting. There are some other (more monolithic) blocks with larger fans. The reason for looking to large diameter fans is to move the same amount of air with much reduced noise. There are some very detailed explanations of why this happens on the web, if you are particulary interested in this aspect (essentially, you operate a larger blade at lower lift, thereby reducing the vortex strength). I used something similar a few years back and whilst it will in all likelihood sound far less obtrusive in terms of noise than your current setup, you will still hear it. Further to the technical explanation above, these are desirable for the same reason most case manufacturers shy away from tiny fans these days: they are far less 'whiny' and some are supplied with a means of stepping the speed up or down according to your needs. I never used mine above low setting, even when gaming. Speaking of small whiny fans, make sure your graphics card is not contributing to the noise, as these often contribute to the racket and there are plenty of fanless alternatives out there if you don't intend to do anything fancy graphics-wise, save perhaps power a couple of big screens. For something really quiet look at the Shuttle X35, as with an SSD in there it is silent. A mate has one an rants about it as it makes his water-cooled gaming beast sound noisey by comparison. The onboard graphics solution powers his two monster displays to their proper resolution effortlessly by the way. Sean -- music, film, comics, books, rants and drivel: www.funkygibbins.me.uk -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
Hi, On Tue, May 01 at 10:17, Imran Chaudhry wrote: ... of fitting an aftermarket CPU cooler, has anyone got any experience with the Zalman type fan such as this: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=164 Do they really make a difference? That'll help, then go after the fans in the graphics card, PSU Hard drives... Once you start, you clear one thing and then hear the next. I can recommend http://www.quietpc.com/home if you've got money but don't underestimate what can be achieved with simpler DIY measures. Install and configure lm_sensors if it's not already there, then checkout the fancontrol scripts. Perhaps you can slow some of your existing fans. Use hdparm to turn off harddrives when idle, anything that saves power also reduces heat and the need for excessive fan speed. Bitumen pads on the side panels of a tower case to stop them resonating can have a lot more effect than you would think. You can buy special PC pads, or chop up some from the motor factors. If the fans face on to a hard surface (wall) put some carpet, an old jumper or a cat in the way to kill the sound reflection. Ultimately have to agree with others. Use a silent low power machine where you are working and put the noisy grunt machine out the way somewhere. -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
For anyone using thin clients, I've had great success with FreeNX in the past - it puts VNC to shame. http://nomachine.com/ It's basically X over SSH, only the X protocol is compressed up to 1000x in places. It's truly impressive, e.g watching YouTube (with sound) over 2 ADSL connections. -- Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive spelling/brevity. www.BenjieGillam.com Founder: FitFu.com, GymFu.com Brain Bakery Ltd. and GymFu Ltd have registered address: 7 Duck Island Lane BH24 3AA. Registered in England and Wales, Company Numbers: 5849251 and 7022440 respectively On 2 May 2012, at 08:20, Bob Dunlop bob.dun...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: Hi, On Tue, May 01 at 10:17, Imran Chaudhry wrote: ... of fitting an aftermarket CPU cooler, has anyone got any experience with the Zalman type fan such as this: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=164 Do they really make a difference? That'll help, then go after the fans in the graphics card, PSU Hard drives... Once you start, you clear one thing and then hear the next. I can recommend http://www.quietpc.com/home if you've got money but don't underestimate what can be achieved with simpler DIY measures. Install and configure lm_sensors if it's not already there, then checkout the fancontrol scripts. Perhaps you can slow some of your existing fans. Use hdparm to turn off harddrives when idle, anything that saves power also reduces heat and the need for excessive fan speed. Bitumen pads on the side panels of a tower case to stop them resonating can have a lot more effect than you would think. You can buy special PC pads, or chop up some from the motor factors. If the fans face on to a hard surface (wall) put some carpet, an old jumper or a cat in the way to kill the sound reflection. Ultimately have to agree with others. Use a silent low power machine where you are working and put the noisy grunt machine out the way somewhere. -- Bob Dunlop -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
For anyone using thin clients, I've had great success with FreeNX in the past - it puts VNC to shame. http://nomachine.com/ Bear in mind that NX is no longer Free Software. The older versions were, but they've moved the current release to a proprietary licence. Older versions are still available - and work pretty well, IME. Google also started a fork - see http://code.google.com/p/neatx/ - but that appears to be a dead project now (Google has declared it finished). Vic. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On Tue, 1 May 2012 22:17:40 +0100 Imran Chaudhry ichaud...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Imran, http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=164 Do they really make a difference? Yes, but; No-one has mentioned water cooling. Very quiet indeed. Can be a scary prospect for some, but it does work. AS has been mentioned though, once you've eliminated the loudest noise (usually the CPU fan), you start hearing other things; GPU fan, drive motors -- Regards _ / ) The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent Junk floats on polluted water Hong Kong Garden - Siouxsie The Banshees signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
Last year whilst rebuilding my PC* I bought a PSU with a huge fan (Maplins); I am very pleased with the resulting peace. The fan is controlled and in very hot weather can run a little faster; there are no case fans and no rhs side-cover. The PC is in front of my shins so the quiet is very welcome. *2-core AMD 64-bit, fanless graphics card - all recent but not cutting edge because bought for domestic use with Linux. Tony Wood (from PC) On 01/05/12 22:17, Imran Chaudhry wrote: These days I'm doing more development work at the PC. I'm noticing the fan noise from my PC becoming more intrusive and I'm also finding it running hot even when idle. I have tried different thermal compound (Artic Silver 5) application methods with two different standard Intel fan/heatsinks but I cannot seem to keep the temperature down and thus the fan noise to an acceptable level. The CPU is a 3Ghz P4 which are known to produce a lot of heat so this may just be normal operation. Having given up making this set-up quiet and wanting something with a bit more horsepower, I want to upgrade to something quieter. I'm planning to buy a motherboard bundle from eBay that features a Core 2 Duo (eg. E6750) as I understand that these run much cooler. As for the fan I was thinking of fitting an aftermarket CPU cooler, has anyone got any experience with the Zalman type fan such as this: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=164 Do they really make a difference? Thanks! -- GPG Key fingerprint = B323 477E F6AB 4181 9C65 F637 BC5F 7FCC 9CC9 CC7F Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever. - Indian political and spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
FWIW, there are a number of quite impressive coolers around (at a price). The heat-pipe types are particularly effective, and yes, the Zalman's are good. These people have a wide range, including both heat-pipe and water coolers. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productlist.php?groupid=701catid=57 Sadly few manufacturers or suppliers quote the performance of their coolers in an absolute form one can use for calculation. Incidently I've seen people buy big, expensive, coolers that keep their CPU to below 40C, so well worth the cost. If you're not doing risky things like overclocking, your CPU should be fine if you keep it below, say, 80C. You'll not destroy it even if it gets to 100+, but it would be at a higher risk of misbehaviour. I second the view that the other fans will likely notice once the CPU fan is quietened. Gordon. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On Wednesday 02 May 2012 09:31:02 Brad Rogers wrote: No-one has mentioned water cooling. Very quiet indeed. Can be a scary prospect for some, but it does work. AS has been mentioned though, once you've eliminated the loudest noise (usually the CPU fan), you start hearing other things; GPU fan, drive motors Heh. If you think the CPU fan is the loudest noise, you haven't heard a gaming rig with 4 GPUs... :-) The loudest noise in my study (which has three running computers in it) is my GF's video cards in the next room. (But then admittedly, if you're going for something quiet, you're probably not looking at a box with 4 graphics cards). -- Be seeing you,Games: http://www.glendale.org.uk/ Sam. Posts: http://www.google.com/profiles/samuel.penn -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On May 1, 2012 5:18 PM, Imran Chaudhry ichaud...@gmail.com wrote: These days I'm doing more development work at the PC. I'm noticing the fan noise from my PC becoming more intrusive and I'm also finding it running hot even when idle. I have tried different thermal compound (Artic Silver 5) application methods with two different standard Intel fan/heatsinks but I cannot seem to keep the temperature down and thus the fan noise to an acceptable level. The CPU is a 3Ghz P4 which are known to produce a lot of heat so this may just be normal operation. Having given up making this set-up quiet and wanting something with a bit more horsepower, I want to upgrade to something quieter. I'm planning to buy a motherboard bundle from eBay that features a Core 2 Duo (eg. E6750) as I understand that these run much cooler. As for the fan I was thinking of fitting an aftermarket CPU cooler, has anyone got any experience with the Zalman type fan such as this: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=164 Do they really make a difference? Thanks! It depends what you are doing with it. You could use a thin client to connect to your faster pc. Put the pc far away from you so the noise does not matter. I do this when writing software or processing data sets. Let a fast remote system do the hard work needing the fans etc. James -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On Tuesday 01 May 2012 22:17:40 Imran Chaudhry wrote: The CPU is a 3Ghz P4 which are known to produce a lot of heat so this may just be normal operation. Yep, the 3GHz P4 is basically a small electric fire, by modern standards. However, there are heatsink and fan combos that are reasonably quiet. Look for big heatsinks and big fans, run at low RPM. I'm planning to buy a motherboard bundle from eBay that features a Core 2 Duo (eg. E6750) as I understand that these run much cooler. Any particular reason for Core2Duo and not i5/i7 or phenom/bulldozer? As for the fan I was thinking of fitting an aftermarket CPU cooler, has anyone got any experience with the Zalman type fan such as this: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=164 Do they really make a difference? That one looks interesting. There are some other (more monolithic) blocks with larger fans. The reason for looking to large diameter fans is to move the same amount of air with much reduced noise. There are some very detailed explanations of why this happens on the web, if you are particulary interested in this aspect (essentially, you operate a larger blade at lower lift, thereby reducing the vortex strength). Hope this helps, Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On Tuesday 01 May 2012 22:37:46 James Courtier-Dutton wrote: It depends what you are doing with it. You could use a thin client to connect to your faster pc. Put the pc far away from you so the noise does not matter. I do this when writing software or processing data sets. Let a fast remote system do the hard work needing the fans etc. James Teradici defined standards for KVM over IP (with a zero client on your desk) a while ago, and we have been using the Dell variant of the kit (FX100) for quite a while at work. It's very good stuff, but I wouldn't use it at home due to the price! Cheers, Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
Pentium 4 is the problem, Netburst architecture was renound for running hot, Paired with a stock cooler and im not surpised that is making noise :), I wouldn't got for a E6750 slap up a bit of extra cash and go for a Q6600 granted these processors are a few years old but they still run anything you throw at them. Or I would go for the i5 2500k, which essentially is the successor to the Q6600, For the price you get a 3.7Ghz Quad Core processor which is capable of 4.6Ghz with a stock cooler. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-360-INtool=3 You might want to wait though Intel Ivy Bridge has only just been released so the older gen i3,i5,i7 will start to be reduced. I dont rate AMD or bulldozers at all I would go intel anyday of the week From: ichaud...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 22:17:40 +0100 To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running? These days I'm doing more development work at the PC. I'm noticing the fan noise from my PC becoming more intrusive and I'm also finding it running hot even when idle. I have tried different thermal compound (Artic Silver 5) application methods with two different standard Intel fan/heatsinks but I cannot seem to keep the temperature down and thus the fan noise to an acceptable level. The CPU is a 3Ghz P4 which are known to produce a lot of heat so this may just be normal operation. Having given up making this set-up quiet and wanting something with a bit more horsepower, I want to upgrade to something quieter. I'm planning to buy a motherboard bundle from eBay that features a Core 2 Duo (eg. E6750) as I understand that these run much cooler. As for the fan I was thinking of fitting an aftermarket CPU cooler, has anyone got any experience with the Zalman type fan such as this: http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/Product_Read.asp?idx=164 Do they really make a difference? Thanks! -- GPG Key fingerprint = B323 477E F6AB 4181 9C65 F637 BC5F 7FCC 9CC9 CC7F “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” - Indian political and spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Quiet and cool PC running?
On May 1, 2012 5:45 PM, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote: On Tuesday 01 May 2012 22:37:46 James Courtier-Dutton wrote: It depends what you are doing with it. You could use a thin client to connect to your faster pc. Put the pc far away from you so the noise does not matter. I do this when writing software or processing data sets. Let a fast remote system do the hard work needing the fans etc. James Teradici defined standards for KVM over IP (with a zero client on your desk) a while ago, and we have been using the Dell variant of the kit (FX100) for quite a while at work. It's very good stuff, but I wouldn't use it at home due to the price! I was thinking more along the lines of VNC, or X over ssh on a 1gig local LAN. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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On Tuesday 01 May 2012 23:11:51 James Courtier-Dutton wrote: I was thinking more along the lines of VNC, or X over ssh on a 1gig local LAN. Yes, that would work too, of course. It's late, I'm not thinking cheap! Tim B. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
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Thin client idea - funny you should say that because I do have the ingredients already to do that! But for me doing development would become a bit of chore because of having to await two machines to boot up instead of one. Also the wife would not tolerate another server in my data centre (aka behind the living room sofa) so I would be back to square one with respects to noise. To answer some other questions - I never buy current generation hardware to be honest and I like to grab a bargain where I can. I think I could get a used Gigabyte-brand mobo + good C2D + 4GB for around £60. I think that would be fine for my purposes for a few years. I never play games, strictly productivity stuff and web-browsing really. As long as the system can *quietly* run Debian Squeeze with Gnome 2 (and eventually Ubuntu 12.04 with Unity 3D) in 1900x1200 (my GPU is a GeForce 8400GS PCI-e) with my usual session: several gnome-terminals, Chrome with ~10 tabs open, Clemantine playing music in the background, gedit, XChat and usual LAMP services such as MySQL, Apache2, modperl etc then I will be very happy. Phew - listing all that makes me think I should go for quad-core :-) The P4 actually exposes 2 logical cores (via Hyper-threading I think) to the OS and normally the load keeps low - however YouTube, Picasa and other stuff seems to push the loadav to 3 or 4+ very easily. Thats when the temperature rises and the fan noise kicks in. On 1 May 2012 23:11, James Courtier-Dutton james.dut...@gmail.com wrote: On May 1, 2012 5:45 PM, Tim Brocklehurst t...@engineering.selfip.org wrote: On Tuesday 01 May 2012 22:37:46 James Courtier-Dutton wrote: It depends what you are doing with it. You could use a thin client to connect to your faster pc. Put the pc far away from you so the noise does not matter. I do this when writing software or processing data sets. Let a fast remote system do the hard work needing the fans etc. James Teradici defined standards for KVM over IP (with a zero client on your desk) a while ago, and we have been using the Dell variant of the kit (FX100) for quite a while at work. It's very good stuff, but I wouldn't use it at home due to the price! I was thinking more along the lines of VNC, or X over ssh on a 1gig local LAN. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- GPG Key fingerprint = B323 477E F6AB 4181 9C65 F637 BC5F 7FCC 9CC9 CC7F “Live as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.” - Indian political and spiritual leader Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
