[Hardhats-members] Re: CPRS Connection Problem
yassir, I've tested all of u're suggestions but the problem still persist: - telnet 192.168.1.225 9200 works but I loose the connection when I enter some characters - I've disabled the Redhat Firewall - Kevin, I didn't understand for Cache Mumps, is it an implementation of Mon Windows or I have to install it in a Windows CPRS client ? (Sorry I have just a medium level in English) - I've checked my Vista Linux Server, it seems to work without problems
[Hardhats-members] On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux. Distributions are the icing on top of the cake in my honest opinion. With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, most will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if you have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation that becomes the question. FWIW. --- Crawford -- The Linux ETC Company 368 South McCaslin Boulevard P.M.B. 146 Louisville, CO 80027 USA +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) http://www.linux-etc.com Quoting Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Message: 3 Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 12:34:31 -0400 From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How do I start? To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Reply-To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net I am running Debian, and I am very happy with it and loath to change, being comfortable with it, but since he is just starting out and looking at supporting 40,000,000, maybe something with an Enterprise version would be a good thing for him to look at. If I were from RedHat or Novell and happened to be reading this list, I would be writing him a nice email offering him a free eval copy of the Enterprise version right now! On Wednesday 25 May 2005 11:53 am, Nancy Anthracite wrote: First, do you have anything you are in love with on your Fedora 2 machine? If no, why not start by getting yourself an up to date version of Linux version. Rat Hat and Suse have Enterprise versions. It have been thinking that might be nice to my feet wet with one of those that a hospital or perhaps a practice installing VistA-Office might like to use for that reason as it will have support guaranteed to be available. Red Hats non-enterprise offspring is Fedora, as you know, and tends to be a bit bleeding edge as others more than me have said. (One with a name beginning with a B comes to mind, and my son as well.) Then there is Suse, and I would like to have someone comment on Suse as you can download it for bargain use vs. the Enterprise version. Also, maybe some know about the quality and depth of the support available to a large enterprise for the other distros. On Wednesday 25 May 2005 10:27 am, Alberto Odor wrote: Well, I'm decided to give OpenVistA as much time as I can. I downloaded a lot of stuff yesterday like: 1. OpenVistA VIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.iso 2. OpenVistA SemiVIVA FOIA Gold 20050212.tar.gz 3. GT.MAcculturation0.3.iso I have a Linux Server with Fedora2 I can use as I only use it for testing. (Linux is not my strong point) I also have a Windows Server and a couple of PCs with WindowsXP I can use. If you would like to have a DEMO site, how would you start? Please elaborate as much as you want to ;) Once I have a Demo site, I plan to try and make an installation from the VA files on GT.M. (I also have Cache's demo disk - one user version). Thanks, Alberto Odor, MD Mexico City --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
Hi, Re: Linux Not too strong, IMO. Anything, no, *everything* outside of the kernel is frosting on the cake. What you are talking about is what is necessary for a POSIX environmnet, (e.g. sh, bash, mv, cp, tar, etc). These are not Linux at all. They are (usually) part of a Linux distribution as they are part of an AIX distribution, OS X distribution, FreeBSD distribution, etc, etc, and so forth. Linux is just a kernel. Debian, Knoppix, Red Hat and SuSE, etc are merely software distributions that happen to use the Linux kernel between the hardware and the execution environment. Cheers, --ldl On 5/26/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party of the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc. (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things are all icing on the cake? --- Crawford Rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux. Distributions are the icing on top of the cake in my honest opinion. With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, most will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if you have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation that becomes the question. FWIW. --- Crawford -- The Linux ETC Company 368 South McCaslin Boulevard P.M.B. 146 Louisville, CO 80027 USA +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) http://www.linux-etc.com A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
Well, maybe, but without them your Linux box is close to being a usless hunk of metal. Now, things like Gnome, KDE, etc., THAT is frosting on the cake (which is not necessarily a bad thing). --- LD \Gus\ Landis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Re: Linux Not too strong, IMO. Anything, no, *everything* outside of the kernel is frosting on the cake. What you are talking about is what is necessary for a POSIX environmnet, (e.g. sh, bash, mv, cp, tar, etc). These are not Linux at all. They are (usually) part of a Linux distribution as they are part of an AIX distribution, OS X distribution, FreeBSD distribution, etc, etc, and so forth. Linux is just a kernel. Debian, Knoppix, Red Hat and SuSE, etc are merely software distributions that happen to use the Linux kernel between the hardware and the execution environment. Cheers, --ldl On 5/26/05, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party of the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc. (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things are all icing on the cake? --- Crawford Rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux. Distributions are the icing on top of the cake in my honest opinion. With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, most will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if you have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation that becomes the question. FWIW. --- Crawford -- The Linux ETC Company 368 South McCaslin Boulevard P.M.B. 146 Louisville, CO 80027 USA +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) http://www.linux-etc.com A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
Since it appears there is nothing in the sub-file at 200.07475 in the DD (as you indicated in your other response where you did ZWR ^DD(200.07475,*)) and the CERTIFICATION field (which represents the column for that table) thinks the DD should be there, I think that's what's actually leading to the error you have. And since the field is no longer being used for anything, I suggest you simply use FM's Modify option, select file 200 then field 747.5 and delete it by entering @ at the Name prompt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Usha Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:29 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error When I look at my DATA DICTIONARY entry, this is what I get GTMd Q^DI VA FileMan 22.0 Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1 LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// Select SUB-FILE: Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD// Start with field: FIRST// CERTIFICATION Go to field: STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE MAY 26,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:54:31 PAGE 1 STORED IN ^VA(200, (150 ENTRIES) SITE: HUIVISTA3 UCI: ROU,ROU (VERSION 8.0) DATA NAME GLOBALDATA ELEMENT TITLE LOCATION TYPE --- 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07475 DESCRIPTION: This field allows you to enter specialties in which the practitioner is Board Certified. 200,747.6 BOARD ELIGIBLE QAR4;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07476 (Add New Entry without Asking) DESCRIPTION: If this applicant is eligible to complete specialty board exams, enter the area of specialty. 200.07476,2 VERIFICATION 0;3 SET '1' FOR LETTER FROM TRAINING DIRECTOR; '2' FOR LETTER FROM SPECIALTY BOARD; ... Is it that my global is corrupted? How can I rectify it? Regards Usha - Original Message - From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference. Am I on the right track and now what? How do I find out more about IOSL? This is what I did so far: I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m. the line with the WR tag is 126. The lines below are 149-159 and there were no line wraps above to screw things up that I could see. It seems that WR+32 is probably line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct? W DDH(A0,A4) I $D(DDH(ID)) D S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U . N DDD,DIY,DDSID . S DDSID=DDH(ID) . S:$D(DDH(ID,1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH(ID,1) . N DDH . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH(ID,1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1) . S Y=A4 . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X . X DDSID Q IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a value, so I assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately after I started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables, correct? GTMW IOSL 24 I asked for that section in the global, I think. GTMZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)=CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q Then I looked in the Data Dictionary: ** Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^ Select OPTION: ^ GTMD Q^DI VA FileMan 22.0 Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1 LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// Select SUB-FILE: Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD// Start with field: FIRST// Certification Go to field: DEVICE: TELNET STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE MAY 25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05 PAGE 1 STORED IN ^VA(200, (1154 ENTRIES) SITE: CAMP MASTER UCI: VAH,ROU (VERSION 8.0) DATA NAME GLOBALDATA ELEMENT TITLE LOCATION TYPE -- - 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07475 DESCRIPTION: This field allows you to enter specialties in which the practitioner is Board Certified. 200.07475,.01 CERTIFICATION 0;1 POINTER ** TO AN UNDEFINED FILE ** (Multiply asked) LAST EDITED:
RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
Lloyd, Would you please send me your telephone number on a separate e-mail. Thanks, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lloyd Milligan Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:03 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error No, but I think there is a path length limitation. Try it from a short path, if you are not already doing so. Lloyd - Original Message - From: Thurman Pedigo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 6:58 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error Is there a special folder to place a KIDS build/transport? I am having problems getting VistA to find a KIDS upgrade. The system is VistA running on Cache with Win2K server. Thanks, thurman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Schlehuber Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 2:46 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error One can manually reconstruct things, but it's usually safer (and less labor if a lot is missing) to create a KIDS build from a reliable account for just the components involved then import it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 1:33 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error My question, looking at this, is how to go about fixing such a problem. I assume a node was blown away somehow. Would it have to be manually reconstructed? Kevin --- Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, pointing to missing files won't cause the problem reported here. Fileman does tolerate that. Having data at ^DD(200.07475,.01,nn but not at ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) WILL cause such errors. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gregory Woodhouse Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:55 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error Fileman is resilient against quite a few potential errors, but pointing to files not in the DD is not one of them. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. -- Benjamin Disraeli On May 25, 2005, at 5:45 AM, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: Yes, you're on the right track. IOSL is one of a number of documented Kernel variables that you can read about in the online documentation. This one is screen length, and is ultimately a value set by the device handler based on the DEVICE file. It is unrelated to the problem here. Notice that this is an invalid pointer, and without looking too closely, I'd guess that the problem here was an attempt to dereference it. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The whole of science is nothing more than a refinement of everyday thinking. -- Albert Einstein --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402alloc_id=16135op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: GoToMeeting - the easiest way to collaborate online with coworkers and clients while avoiding the high cost of travel and communications. There is no equipment to buy and you can meet as often as you want. Try it free.http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7402alloc_id=16135op=click ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net
[Hardhats-members] Re: On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
Just a simple analogy. I will admit, the Linux kernel by itself would make things interesting even from a console point of view (to put it very mildly). Have to love modular design though, so I want a simple cake with icing, or shall we go for the quad layer with the works? ;-) --- Crawford -- The Linux ETC Company 368 South McCaslin Boulevard P.M.B. 146 Louisville, CO 80027 USA +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) http://www.linux-etc.com On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 11:33 -0700, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party of the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc. (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things are all icing on the cake? --- Crawford Rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux. Distributions are the icing on top of the cake in my honest opinion. With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, most will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if you have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation that becomes the question. FWIW. --- Crawford --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
Hi, I'm with Crawford, I'll take whatever you give me as a starting point, and make the many layered cake I am used to. I don't really care what kernel is under the covers... I am finding the OS X layout a but unusual, so will probably go buy the book (OS X for the UNIX user, or whatever it is called). I find even with Linux distributions I have to go to the store for my favorite things (e.g. GT.m is not there, they are usually a release or two behind in Python, etc, etc...). To date the worst I've had is with the HP-UX 10.20 systems here at work... They are almost like being back in 1980 with naked pre-GNU V7... (but even there my scripts work as is no mods.. that's the point of POSIX!) Cheers, --ldl On 5/26/05, Crawford Rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a simple analogy. I will admit, the Linux kernel by itself would make things interesting even from a console point of view (to put it very mildly). Have to love modular design though, so I want a simple cake with icing, or shall we go for the quad layer with the works? ;-) --- Crawford -- The Linux ETC Company 368 South McCaslin Boulevard P.M.B. 146 Louisville, CO 80027 USA +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) http://www.linux-etc.com On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 11:33 -0700, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party of the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc. (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things are all icing on the cake? --- Crawford Rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux. Distributions are the icing on top of the cake in my honest opinion. With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, most will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if you have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation that becomes the question. FWIW. --- Crawford --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- LD Landis - N0YRQ - from the St Paul side of Minneapolis --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
On Thursday 26 May 2005 07:51, Greg Woodhouse wrote: Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party of the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc. (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things are all icing on the cake? And I for one am glad they are NOT part of the kernel. Think of the whole thing as a model of a distant universe with the kernel in the middle. It is the nature of things. This is the reason why some in the community refer to Linux as GNU/Linux. What would 'Linux' be without the GNUutilities and tools wrapped around the kernel? What would any OS be without the universe of utilities wrapped around the kernel. Some kernel's are monolithic, some are micro-kernel based you make the choice. It is an ever expanding universe of applications, drivers and utilities spinning around the kernel this is referred to as a distribution when someone grabs the parts and pieces they want, wrap them around the Linux kernel, package them up and release them to the community. Like a present from me to you. The beautiful thing about GNU and Linux is that one has the 'freedom of choice' to do with GNU/Linux what they may. http://www.gnu.org --- Crawford Rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux. Distributions are the icing on top of the cake in my honest opinion. -- Mark Street, RHCE http://www.oswizards.com -- Key fingerprint = 3949 39E4 6317 7C3C 023E 2B1F 6FB3 06E7 D109 56C0 GPG key http://www.oswizards.com/pubkey.asc --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
Hey...I'm a big fan of modularity. In fact, I'm an OS X user meaning that I use a sytem built on the Mach microkernel! I appreciate the point you're making here, and completely agree that it's important to distinguish between the kernel and the rest of the package. I guess it just struck me as a bit odd to refer to minor little things like a runtime library or a shell as icing on the cake. --- Crawford Rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a simple analogy. I will admit, the Linux kernel by itself would make things interesting even from a console point of view (to put it very mildly). Have to love modular design though, so I want a simple cake with icing, or shall we go for the quad layer with the works? ;-) --- Crawford -- The Linux ETC Company 368 South McCaslin Boulevard P.M.B. 146 Louisville, CO 80027 USA +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) http://www.linux-etc.com On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 11:33 -0700, Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, that might be a LITTLE strong. For example, X11 isn't party of the kernel, nor is bash, little things like mv, cp, tar, etc., etc. (much less libraries like libc). Does that mean that these things are all icing on the cake? --- Crawford Rainwater [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux. Distributions are the icing on top of the cake in my honest opinion. With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, most will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if you have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation that becomes the question. FWIW. --- Crawford --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista
Hello, Does anyone know if there is a document on journaling and backup for OpenVista (either generic issues or specifically for GTM platforms?) Thanks John - Original Message - From: Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?) So am I. Wasn't Unix revolutionary, among other things, becausre of the small size of its kernel? I'm as big a fan as anyone of the Do one thing and do it well concept. --- Mark Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I for one am glad they are NOT part of the kernel. Think of the whole thing as a model of a distant universe with the kernel in the middle. It is the nature of things. This is the reason why some in the community refer to Linux as GNU/Linux. A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
Crawford -- Good to hear from you again - you've been quiet for a while! If you consider Debian to be a family of releases with a common package management system and database, rather than just the specific Debian GNU/Linux, then doesn't a distribution like Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntulinux.org) count as having commercial support (e.g., see http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/paidsupport and http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/supportoptions/marketplace)? Regards -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Crawford Rainwater Sent: Thu 5/26/2005 10:24 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:[Hardhats-members] On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?) The only difference of doing RedHat and/or SuSE vs. Debian or (insert another non-commercial distribution name here) is the commercial enterprise support offered. As Mark said, Linux is the kernel, the kernel is Linux. Distributions are the icing on top of the cake in my honest opinion. With that said, there are quite a few folks on the HHs list that have tried Debian and RedHat variants. Depending on the end game plan, most will work for small and large implementations quite well. It is if you have the Linux system administrator(s) to handle said implementation that becomes the question. FWIW. --- Crawford -- The Linux ETC Company 368 South McCaslin Boulevard P.M.B. 146 Louisville, CO 80027 USA +1 (303) 604-2550 (voice) +1 (866) 604-2550 (toll free within the US) +1 (303) 664-0036 (fax) http://www.linux-etc.com winmail.dat
RE: [Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista
John -- If there is something that you are looking for which is not in the chapter on MUPIP in the GT.M Administration and Operations manual as supplemented by the tutorial exercise in the GT.M Acculturation CD, please let me know what that is. Implementing journaling for VistA should not be any different from any other GT.M application. Regards -- Bhaskar -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thu 5/26/2005 3:16 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:[Hardhats-members] Backup/journaling for OpenVista Hello, Does anyone know if there is a document on journaling and backup for OpenVista (either generic issues or specifically for GTM platforms?) Thanks John winmail.dat
RE: [Hardhats-members] Re: On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mark Street Sent: Thu 5/26/2005 9:00 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Subject:Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?) [KSB] ...snip... What would a cake be without icing? [KSB] Less filling and therefore healthier, but maybe not as much fun? :-) -- Bhaskar winmail.dat
Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error
I tried to modify file attributes to remove CERTIFICATION field, but Select OPTION: 4 MODIFY FILE ATTRIBUTES Do you want to use the screen-mode version? YES// NO MODIFY WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// Select FIELD: 747.5 CERTIFICATION And the system hangs... Is there any other way? Usha - Original Message - From: Cameron Schlehuber [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 10:14 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error Since it appears there is nothing in the sub-file at 200.07475 in the DD (as you indicated in your other response where you did ZWR ^DD(200.07475,*)) and the CERTIFICATION field (which represents the column for that table) thinks the DD should be there, I think that's what's actually leading to the error you have. And since the field is no longer being used for anything, I suggest you simply use FM's Modify option, select file 200 then field 747.5 and delete it by entering @ at the Name prompt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Usha Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 9:29 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error When I look at my DATA DICTIONARY entry, this is what I get GTMd Q^DI VA FileMan 22.0 Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1 LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// Select SUB-FILE: Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD// Start with field: FIRST// CERTIFICATION Go to field: STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE MAY 26,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:54:31 PAGE 1 STORED IN ^VA(200, (150 ENTRIES) SITE: HUIVISTA3 UCI: ROU,ROU (VERSION 8.0) DATA NAME GLOBALDATA ELEMENT TITLE LOCATION TYPE --- 200,747.5 CERTIFICATION QAR2;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07475 DESCRIPTION: This field allows you to enter specialties in which the practitioner is Board Certified. 200,747.6 BOARD ELIGIBLE QAR4;0 POINTER Multiple #200.07476 (Add New Entry without Asking) DESCRIPTION: If this applicant is eligible to complete specialty board exams, enter the area of specialty. 200.07476,2 VERIFICATION 0;3 SET '1' FOR LETTER FROM TRAINING DIRECTOR; '2' FOR LETTER FROM SPECIALTY BOARD; ... Is it that my global is corrupted? How can I rectify it? Regards Usha - Original Message - From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 5:00 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Another GTM error I would like to know how to chase this down for future reference. Am I on the right track and now what? How do I find out more about IOSL? This is what I did so far: I found the 32nd line after the tag WR in the routine DDSU.m. the line with the WR tag is 126. The lines below are 149-159 and there were no line wraps above to screw things up that I could see. It seems that WR+32 is probably line 157, so WR+32 must count the line with WR as 1, correct? W DDH(A0,A4) I $D(DDH(ID)) D S:$D(DUOUT) DIY=U . N DDD,DIY,DDSID . S DDSID=DDH(ID) . S:$D(DDH(ID,1))#2 DDSID(1)=DDH(ID,1) . N DDH . S:$D(DDSID(1))#2 DDH(ID,1)=DDSID(1) K DDSID(1) . S Y=A4 . S:$D(DDS) DDQ=$S(DY(IOSL-1):IOSL-1,1:DY)_U_$X . X DDSID Q IOSL is not newed and is used early in the routine,and gives me a value, so I assume it is the undefined global variable. This is immediately after I started up with D P^DI, which I think wipes the local variables, correct? GTMW IOSL 24 I asked for that section in the global, I think. GTMZWR ^DD(200.07475,.01,0) ^DD(200.07475,.01,0)=CERTIFICATION^MP747.9'^QA(747.9,^0;1^Q Then I looked in the Data Dictionary: ** Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: ^ Select OPTION: ^ GTMD Q^DI VA FileMan 22.0 Select OPTION: 8 DATA DICTIONARY UTILITIES Select DATA DICTIONARY UTILITY OPTION: 1 LIST FILE ATTRIBUTES START WITH WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// GO TO WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// Select SUB-FILE: Select LISTING FORMAT: STANDARD// Start with field: FIRST// Certification Go to field: DEVICE: TELNET STANDARD DATA DICTIONARY #200 -- NEW PERSON FILE MAY 25,[EMAIL PROTECTED]:04:05 PAGE 1 STORED IN ^VA(200, (1154 ENTRIES) SITE: CAMP MASTER UCI: VAH,ROU (VERSION 8.0) DATA NAME GLOBALDATA ELEMENT
[Hardhats-members] Uninstall a patch
While registering a patient, the Austin database is checked. Wiki says that it can be disabled if the HL*1.6*39 patch is not installed. Unfortunately,we have it installed in our system. How canthis patch be uninstalled? Regards Usha
Re: [Hardhats-members] Re: On Linux distributions (was Re: How do I start?)
In truth, I'm not terribly surprised. Of course, I grew up on BSD, so... --- Mark Street [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That Mach kernel is FreeBSD UNIX. Mac OSX is FreeBSD at its core with some NeXT BSD code thrown in. Not to rain on the parade but.. In truth the Mac OSX kernel is not a mircrokernel it never was, it is not monolithic kernel either. although it was. It is a hybrid kernel thanks to the Mac engineers. What would a cake be without icing? A practical man is a man who practices the errors of his forefathers. --Benjamin Disraeli Greg Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by Yahoo. Introducing Yahoo! Search Developer Network - Create apps using Yahoo! Search APIs Find out how you can build Yahoo! directly into your own Applications - visit http://developer.yahoo.net/?fr=offad-ysdn-ostg-q22005 ___ Hardhats-members mailing list Hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
