RE: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications
There is also a menu called XUCOMMAND. It is available to ALL users, you don't have to do anything to make it available. If you want to add an option that you want to make available to ALL users just add it as a menu item to XUCOMMAND. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Toppenberg Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 7:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications To expand on what Nancy has just said, the primary menu is the manu that a user will be shown when they log in. A secondary menu will also be shown if specified. It is usually composed of utility menu options. Kevin --- Nancy E. Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the new person file, you can assign primary and secondary menus, etc. I know there are a lot more options that I do not know how to do. One, I believe, is Menu Management as part of the Kernel options. If you search the documentation library using VistA VA Menu Management in Google, I bet you will get a hit. On Tuesday 19 October 2004 11:55 am, CS Wagner wrote: I know that this is easy, but I'm still working on understanding the menu setup for users. Right now, I have been able to get VistA accepted as SSH only (no CPRS). I also got it past the security issues. There is a single SSH username/pass for the entire clinical group and a user for each person in the group. The users click on the VistA icon which starts up the SSH program and logs in automatically, taking them right to the ACCESS CODE prompt. They log in and get: Core Applications Device Management Menu Management Programmer Options Operations Management Spool Management System Security Taskman Management User Management FM VA FileMan HL7 Main Menu Manage Mailman They type Core Applications to get to a prompt that lets them do the common work of admitting patients, entering vitals, writing prescriptions, and so on. I would like that Core Applications menu to be the first menu they see. Also, I would like to customize it for each role. For instance, a clerk would see: Enter a Patient Schedule a Patient View Schedule Then, a nurse would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Enter Lab Data A provider would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Order Lab Enter Lab Data Enter Prescription View Prescriptions Those are just examples. But, I think it explains what I'm being asked to do. It is coming from a Unix/Windows Server point of view. The users are in groups or roles. The groups/roles decide what menu items they can see. When they log in, they get the primary menu for their group/role. -Shaun --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo
RE: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications
To help figure out what menu options are available, Try looking at my web site: www.geocities.com/kdtop3 Look on the left-hand side for VistA Menus This list gives the high level menu entry points. Kevin --- Beza, Fil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What you want is typical of what sites do all the time - tailor make a menu for a function. Typical process is create a menu option, add the appropriate options to it and assign that menu option ot a user. The difficult task is finding the menu amongst the thousands distributed with VistA. Here is a simple example for the Clerk. We create a menu that include Register a Patient, Appointment Menu, and Admit a Patient. Having created this, you may have a super clerk. You can create another new menu that includes this basic clerk menu PLUS other options. - CREATE A MENU - Select Systems Manager Menu Option: MENu Management You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Menu Management Option: EDit options Select OPTION to edit: ISC6 CLERK MENU Not a known package or a local namespace. Are you adding 'ISC6 CLERK MENU' as a new OPTION (the 8940TH)? No// Y (Yes) OPTION MENU TEXT: Clerk Menu NAME: ISC6 CLERK MENU// MENU TEXT: Clerk Menu// PACKAGE: OUT OF ORDER MESSAGE: LOCK: REVERSE/NEGATIVE LOCK: DESCRIPTION: No existing text Edit? NO// TYPE: m menu HEADER: ENTRY ACTION: EXIT ACTION: Select ITEM: DG REGISTER PATIENT Register a Patient Are you adding 'DG REGISTER PATIENT' as a new MENU (the 1ST for this OPTION)? No// Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: SDAPP 1 SDAPP Appointment Menu 2 SDAPP INPT Inpatient Appointment List 3 SDAPPEND Append Ancillary Test to Appt. CHOOSE 1-3: 1 SDAPP Appointment Menu Are you adding 'SDAPP' as a new MENU (the 2ND for this OPTION)? No// Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: DG ADMIT PATIENT Admit a Patient Are you adding 'DG ADMIT PATIENT' as a new MENU (the 3RD for this OPTION)? No/ / Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: CREATOR: BEZA,FIL Y// HELP FRAME: PRIORITY: Select TIMES PROHIBITED: Select TIME PERIOD: RESTRICT DEVICES?: Select PERMITTED DEVICE: Select OPTION to edit: You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Menu Management Option: You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Systems Manager Menu Option: USEr Management You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option -- ASSIGN THE MENU --- Select User Management Option: EDit an Existing User Select NEW PERSON NAME: CLERK,USER UC Edit an Existing User NAME: CLERK,USER Page 1 of 4 ___ NAME... CLERK,USER INITIAL: UC TITLE: NICK NAME: SSN: 123923939 DOB: DEGREE: MAIL CODE: DISUSER: TERMINATION DATE: Termination Reason: PRIMARY MENU OPTION: ISC6 CLERK MENU Select SECONDARY MENU OPTIONS: Want to edit ACCESS CODE (Y/N): FILE MANAGER ACCESS CODE: Want to edit VERIFY CODE (Y/N): Select DIVISION: SERVICE/SECTION: IRM ___ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CS Wagner Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications I know that this is easy, but I'm still working on understanding the menu setup for users. Right now, I have been able to get VistA accepted as SSH only (no CPRS). I also got it past the security issues. There is a single SSH username/pass for the entire clinical group and a user for each person in the group. The users click on the VistA icon which starts up the SSH program and logs in automatically, taking them right to the ACCESS CODE prompt. They log in and get: Core Applications Device Management Menu Management Programmer Options Operations Management Spool Management System Security Taskman Management User Management FM VA FileMan HL7 Main Menu Manage Mailman They type Core Applications to get to a prompt that lets them do the common work of admitting patients, entering vitals, writing prescriptions, and so on. I would like that Core Applications menu to be the first menu
Re: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications
To expand on what Nancy has just said, the primary menu is the manu that a user will be shown when they log in. A secondary menu will also be shown if specified. It is usually composed of utility menu options. Kevin --- Nancy E. Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the new person file, you can assign primary and secondary menus, etc. I know there are a lot more options that I do not know how to do. One, I believe, is Menu Management as part of the Kernel options. If you search the documentation library using VistA VA Menu Management in Google, I bet you will get a hit. On Tuesday 19 October 2004 11:55 am, CS Wagner wrote: I know that this is easy, but I'm still working on understanding the menu setup for users. Right now, I have been able to get VistA accepted as SSH only (no CPRS). I also got it past the security issues. There is a single SSH username/pass for the entire clinical group and a user for each person in the group. The users click on the VistA icon which starts up the SSH program and logs in automatically, taking them right to the ACCESS CODE prompt. They log in and get: Core Applications Device Management Menu Management Programmer Options Operations Management Spool Management System Security Taskman Management User Management FM VA FileMan HL7 Main Menu Manage Mailman They type Core Applications to get to a prompt that lets them do the common work of admitting patients, entering vitals, writing prescriptions, and so on. I would like that Core Applications menu to be the first menu they see. Also, I would like to customize it for each role. For instance, a clerk would see: Enter a Patient Schedule a Patient View Schedule Then, a nurse would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Enter Lab Data A provider would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Order Lab Enter Lab Data Enter Prescription View Prescriptions Those are just examples. But, I think it explains what I'm being asked to do. It is coming from a Unix/Windows Server point of view. The users are in groups or roles. The groups/roles decide what menu items they can see. When they log in, they get the primary menu for their group/role. -Shaun --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members ___ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
[Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications
I know that this is easy, but I'm still working on understanding the menu setup for users. Right now, I have been able to get VistA accepted as SSH only (no CPRS). I also got it past the security issues. There is a single SSH username/pass for the entire clinical group and a user for each person in the group. The users click on the VistA icon which starts up the SSH program and logs in automatically, taking them right to the ACCESS CODE prompt. They log in and get: Core Applications Device Management Menu Management Programmer Options Operations Management Spool Management System Security Taskman Management User Management FM VA FileMan HL7 Main Menu Manage Mailman They type Core Applications to get to a prompt that lets them do the common work of admitting patients, entering vitals, writing prescriptions, and so on. I would like that Core Applications menu to be the first menu they see. Also, I would like to customize it for each role. For instance, a clerk would see: Enter a Patient Schedule a Patient View Schedule Then, a nurse would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Enter Lab Data A provider would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Order Lab Enter Lab Data Enter Prescription View Prescriptions Those are just examples. But, I think it explains what I'm being asked to do. It is coming from a Unix/Windows Server point of view. The users are in groups or roles. The groups/roles decide what menu items they can see. When they log in, they get the primary menu for their group/role. -Shaun --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
RE: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications
What you want is typical of what sites do all the time - tailor make a menu for a function. Typical process is create a menu option, add the appropriate options to it and assign that menu option ot a user. The difficult task is finding the menu amongst the thousands distributed with VistA. Here is a simple example for the Clerk. We create a menu that include Register a Patient, Appointment Menu, and Admit a Patient. Having created this, you may have a super clerk. You can create another new menu that includes this basic clerk menu PLUS other options. - CREATE A MENU - Select Systems Manager Menu Option: MENu Management You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Menu Management Option: EDit options Select OPTION to edit: ISC6 CLERK MENU Not a known package or a local namespace. Are you adding 'ISC6 CLERK MENU' as a new OPTION (the 8940TH)? No// Y (Yes) OPTION MENU TEXT: Clerk Menu NAME: ISC6 CLERK MENU// MENU TEXT: Clerk Menu// PACKAGE: OUT OF ORDER MESSAGE: LOCK: REVERSE/NEGATIVE LOCK: DESCRIPTION: No existing text Edit? NO// TYPE: m menu HEADER: ENTRY ACTION: EXIT ACTION: Select ITEM: DG REGISTER PATIENT Register a Patient Are you adding 'DG REGISTER PATIENT' as a new MENU (the 1ST for this OPTION)? No// Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: SDAPP 1 SDAPP Appointment Menu 2 SDAPP INPT Inpatient Appointment List 3 SDAPPEND Append Ancillary Test to Appt. CHOOSE 1-3: 1 SDAPP Appointment Menu Are you adding 'SDAPP' as a new MENU (the 2ND for this OPTION)? No// Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: DG ADMIT PATIENT Admit a Patient Are you adding 'DG ADMIT PATIENT' as a new MENU (the 3RD for this OPTION)? No/ / Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: CREATOR: BEZA,FIL Y// HELP FRAME: PRIORITY: Select TIMES PROHIBITED: Select TIME PERIOD: RESTRICT DEVICES?: Select PERMITTED DEVICE: Select OPTION to edit: You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Menu Management Option: You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Systems Manager Menu Option: USEr Management You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option -- ASSIGN THE MENU --- Select User Management Option: EDit an Existing User Select NEW PERSON NAME: CLERK,USER UC Edit an Existing User NAME: CLERK,USERPage 1 of 4 ___ NAME... CLERK,USER INITIAL: UC TITLE: NICK NAME: SSN: 123923939 DOB: DEGREE: MAIL CODE: DISUSER:TERMINATION DATE: Termination Reason: PRIMARY MENU OPTION: ISC6 CLERK MENU Select SECONDARY MENU OPTIONS: Want to edit ACCESS CODE (Y/N): FILE MANAGER ACCESS CODE: Want to edit VERIFY CODE (Y/N): Select DIVISION: SERVICE/SECTION: IRM ___ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CS Wagner Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications I know that this is easy, but I'm still working on understanding the menu setup for users. Right now, I have been able to get VistA accepted as SSH only (no CPRS). I also got it past the security issues. There is a single SSH username/pass for the entire clinical group and a user for each person in the group. The users click on the VistA icon which starts up the SSH program and logs in automatically, taking them right to the ACCESS CODE prompt. They log in and get: Core Applications Device Management Menu Management Programmer Options Operations Management Spool Management System Security Taskman Management User Management FM VA FileMan HL7 Main Menu Manage Mailman They type Core Applications to get to a prompt that lets them do the common work of admitting patients, entering vitals, writing prescriptions, and so on. I would like that Core Applications menu to be the first menu they see. Also, I would like to customize it for each role. For instance, a clerk would see: Enter a Patient Schedule a Patient View Schedule Then, a nurse would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Enter Lab Data A provider would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Order Lab Enter Lab Data Enter Prescription View Prescriptions Those are just examples. But, I think it explains what I'm being asked to do. It is coming
RE: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications
And let me add when creating the NAME field, please do not use a package's 4 or less characters as the first part of the NAME. Using Fil's example you would not want to name it something like DG ISC6 CLERK MENU. The reason is if a VA developer wants to use DG ISC6 CLERK MENU, they will over write your menu. Take it from experience. :) If you are not sure, you can find out the package by doing something like: Select OPTION: INQUIRE TO FILE ENTRIES OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: NEW PERSON// PACK 1 PACKAGE (509 entries) 2 PACKAGE INTERFACE(132 entries) 3 PACKAGE SIZE (4326 entries) 4 PACKAGE TYPE (463 entries) CHOOSE 1-4: 1 PACKAGE(509 entries) Select PACKAGE NAME: PHAR 1 PHARMACY PS 2 PHARMACY BENEFITS MANAGEMENT PSU 3 PHARMACY BINGO BOARD AGGB 4 PHARMACY DATA MANAGEMENT PSS 5 PHARMACY PRESCRIPTION PRACTICE PPP CHOOSE 1-5: --Skip -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Beza, Fil Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 2:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications What you want is typical of what sites do all the time - tailor make a menu for a function. Typical process is create a menu option, add the appropriate options to it and assign that menu option ot a user. The difficult task is finding the menu amongst the thousands distributed with VistA. Here is a simple example for the Clerk. We create a menu that include Register a Patient, Appointment Menu, and Admit a Patient. Having created this, you may have a super clerk. You can create another new menu that includes this basic clerk menu PLUS other options. - CREATE A MENU - Select Systems Manager Menu Option: MENu Management You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Menu Management Option: EDit options Select OPTION to edit: ISC6 CLERK MENU Not a known package or a local namespace. Are you adding 'ISC6 CLERK MENU' as a new OPTION (the 8940TH)? No// Y (Yes) OPTION MENU TEXT: Clerk Menu NAME: ISC6 CLERK MENU// MENU TEXT: Clerk Menu// PACKAGE: OUT OF ORDER MESSAGE: LOCK: REVERSE/NEGATIVE LOCK: DESCRIPTION: No existing text Edit? NO// TYPE: m menu HEADER: ENTRY ACTION: EXIT ACTION: Select ITEM: DG REGISTER PATIENT Register a Patient Are you adding 'DG REGISTER PATIENT' as a new MENU (the 1ST for this OPTION)? No// Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: SDAPP 1 SDAPP Appointment Menu 2 SDAPP INPT Inpatient Appointment List 3 SDAPPEND Append Ancillary Test to Appt. CHOOSE 1-3: 1 SDAPP Appointment Menu Are you adding 'SDAPP' as a new MENU (the 2ND for this OPTION)? No// Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: DG ADMIT PATIENT Admit a Patient Are you adding 'DG ADMIT PATIENT' as a new MENU (the 3RD for this OPTION)? No/ / Y (Yes) MENU SYNONYM: SYNONYM: DISPLAY ORDER: Select ITEM: CREATOR: BEZA,FIL Y// HELP FRAME: PRIORITY: Select TIMES PROHIBITED: Select TIME PERIOD: RESTRICT DEVICES?: Select PERMITTED DEVICE: Select OPTION to edit: You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Menu Management Option: You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option Select Systems Manager Menu Option: USEr Management You have PENDING ALERTS Enter VA to jump to VIEW ALERTS option -- ASSIGN THE MENU --- Select User Management Option: EDit an Existing User Select NEW PERSON NAME: CLERK,USER UC Edit an Existing User NAME: CLERK,USERPage 1 of 4 ___ NAME... CLERK,USER INITIAL: UC TITLE: NICK NAME: SSN: 123923939 DOB: DEGREE: MAIL CODE: DISUSER:TERMINATION DATE: Termination Reason: PRIMARY MENU OPTION: ISC6 CLERK MENU Select SECONDARY MENU OPTIONS: Want to edit ACCESS CODE (Y/N): FILE MANAGER ACCESS CODE: Want to edit VERIFY CODE (Y/N): Select DIVISION: SERVICE/SECTION: IRM ___ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CS Wagner Sent: Tuesday, October 19, 2004 8:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications I know that this is easy, but I'm still working on understanding the menu setup for users. Right now, I have been
Re: [Hardhats-members] Login to Core Applications
In the new person file, you can assign primary and secondary menus, etc. I know there are a lot more options that I do not know how to do. One, I believe, is Menu Management as part of the Kernel options. If you search the documentation library using VistA VA Menu Management in Google, I bet you will get a hit. On Tuesday 19 October 2004 11:55 am, CS Wagner wrote: I know that this is easy, but I'm still working on understanding the menu setup for users. Right now, I have been able to get VistA accepted as SSH only (no CPRS). I also got it past the security issues. There is a single SSH username/pass for the entire clinical group and a user for each person in the group. The users click on the VistA icon which starts up the SSH program and logs in automatically, taking them right to the ACCESS CODE prompt. They log in and get: Core Applications Device Management Menu Management Programmer Options Operations Management Spool Management System Security Taskman Management User Management FM VA FileMan HL7 Main Menu Manage Mailman They type Core Applications to get to a prompt that lets them do the common work of admitting patients, entering vitals, writing prescriptions, and so on. I would like that Core Applications menu to be the first menu they see. Also, I would like to customize it for each role. For instance, a clerk would see: Enter a Patient Schedule a Patient View Schedule Then, a nurse would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Enter Lab Data A provider would see Enter Vitals View Vitals Order Lab Enter Lab Data Enter Prescription View Prescriptions Those are just examples. But, I think it explains what I'm being asked to do. It is coming from a Unix/Windows Server point of view. The users are in groups or roles. The groups/roles decide what menu items they can see. When they log in, they get the primary menu for their group/role. -Shaun --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members -- Nancy Anthracite --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IT Product Guide on ITManagersJournal Use IT products in your business? Tell us what you think of them. Give us Your Opinions, Get Free ThinkGeek Gift Certificates! Click to find out more http://productguide.itmanagersjournal.com/guidepromo.tmpl ___ Hardhats-members mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/hardhats-members
