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I am aware of the history, I just think the situations are very different regardless of what you might believe. Think about it, the drugs are legal do you think all the illegal fields will be plowed under? Do you think they will stop growing their crop? Why would they? -Gary Julian Hale said the following on 8/25/2005 8:14 PM: Crack open a history book. What happened after the end of prohibition is what makes us think that ending drug/MJ prohibition will make them walk away. The is no difference between the two. However, excessively high taxation will create a black market. Julian At 12:24 PM 8/25/2005, you wrote: That is one of the most ludicrous arguments being tossed about by the legalizing drugs crowd. What in God's name makes you think that organized crime will walk away from their BILLION dollar empires? Tax the drugs?? LOL. -Gary
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Like all the other drugs from Pharmaceutical companies? Now, that is a good one. Add to it all the taxes that are sure to be imposed and all of the legal obligation that comes from being part of the delivery chain. Low prices are a dream. BTW, do you always find it necessary to be so condescending? -Gary Julian Hale said the following on 8/25/2005 8:17 PM: There was also a thriving, legal business for MJ, opiates, cocaine, etc. before prohibition. Again, no difference at all. Legal drugs will come from, and this may shock you, pharmaceutical companies... since there is no patent, prices will be low. Julian At 12:52 PM 8/25/2005, you wrote: Big difference, there was already a thriving legal business for alcohol prior to prohibition. So we make drugs legal, where are they going to come from? -Gary
RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive
Always suspect discs before burners. Use a decent brand like Verbatim or TDK. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mesdaq, Ali Sent: Friday, 26 August 2005 9:16 To: The Hardware List Subject: RE: [H] Best DVD disc with Drive I am using a sony drive to burn images. So do you think that might be the cause of the skipping on peoples dvd players? But they said it played fine first time and then started skipping on the 2nd and 3rd time they played the disc. That makes me feel like it's a disc issue more than a burner issue.
RE: [H] Weird one for you...
You can buy a flashing LED which requires nothing more than just power being applied to it. Check out your local Radio Shack for one. The circuit is actually inside the LED lens itself making it the best solution. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joeuser Sent: Friday, 26 August 2005 2:37 To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] Weird one for you... I'm looking for a red LED that flashes about once a minute and is powered by 2 AA batteries. I got one from a display box that was used for a web camera or something. It's on a pretty small board. I'd like something just like it. Where do you find something like this? -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Gas prices
At 05:04 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: Yes. Ok, now I know you're just playing with us. Good one. T
RE: [H] Weird one for you...
I have seen these for sale for telescopes so that you know where tripod legs are and what not. If you can not find any, they should be pretty easy to build with a minimum of components. Bobby -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Antoniou Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:56 AM To: 'The Hardware List' Subject: RE: [H] Weird one for you... You can buy a flashing LED which requires nothing more than just power being applied to it. Check out your local Radio Shack for one. The circuit is actually inside the LED lens itself making it the best solution. Adios, Tony --- TAMA - The Strongest Name in Drums --- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joeuser Sent: Friday, 26 August 2005 2:37 To: The Hardware List Subject: [H] Weird one for you... I'm looking for a red LED that flashes about once a minute and is powered by 2 AA batteries. I got one from a display box that was used for a web camera or something. It's on a pretty small board. I'd like something just like it. Where do you find something like this? -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Gas prices
- Original Message - From: Gary Udstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Hardware List hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [H] Gas prices drug use? That is just plain silly. If mary jane were legal and sold at the local drug store there would be at least 2x as many people smoking it. You think some of those who are not smoking might be abstaining because of fear of reprisals? LOL For conversation sake, smoking can refer to tobacco, also, along with the use of all illegal drugs. For conversation sake, reprisals can refer to social and legal consequences. Study any social group that disassociates those who choose to smoke any addictive or harmful substance or uses illegal drugs for recreational purposes. Although those on the inside of the group may misrepresent the percentage of members who violate the rules, a substantial number are violators. The point here is, although there are violators, their numbers are few, in relation to the number of those in a group who does not have these restrictions. Yes, some of those who are not smoking might be abstaining because of fear or reprisals not just legal, but social, also. If I am in the presence of a drug user who does not smoke their drug, I can be clean when I leave. If I am around smokers I am uncomfortable, breathing that poison. When I leave I discover my clothes are filled with smoke residue because they stink. Smokers have no concern for the people around them if they smoke in their presence. I have cut off friendships because of this. It is sad to be so addicted to a substance that you must use it in their presence and lose them as a friend. Friends say, Can't you respect my rights to smoke? Best reply, If and only if you can figure out a way to do it where I do not smell an offensive odor and leave with my clothes full of the substance. Some have chosen to abstain from smoking around me even in their own home. Most have let their habit destroy our friendship. Other non smokers do not have to take such a harsh stand. It is your choice to live with it and keep your friends. Chuck
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The Pink Floyd Pulse album came with one of these. =) Only when it was first released I think, not any more. Have to admit, that was what I thought of first when joeuser asked :)
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Yup, I had one also. My son got to that before I could. warpmedia wrote: The Pink Floyd Pulse album came with one of these. =) joeuser wrote: I'm looking for a red LED that flashes about once a minute and is powered by 2 AA batteries. I got one from a display box that was used for a web camera or something. It's on a pretty small board. I'd like something just like it. Where do you find something like this? -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Gas prices
There's a difference between getting arrested for smoking something on the front porch versus getting arrested for breaking down a door. On 8/25/05, Gary Udstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many of those in jail for drugs are helpless Grandma's and teenagers? Simple question, do the drug laws deter usage? What else are they supposed to do? I suppose we should eliminate laws against theft too since they would also fail your definition of success. -Gary j m g said the following on 8/25/2005 3:08 PM: I don't think locking up grandma and idiot teenagers is the mark of a successful policy. On 8/25/05, Gary Udstrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course it is up to you to define successful? -Gary Thane Sherrington said the following on 8/25/2005 3:07 PM: At 04:56 PM 25/08/2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: Your problem is you have failed to define working. If by working you mean are they acting as a deterrent, then they are working. If you are defining working as the complete eradication of drugs from society then you are creating nothing more than a canard. I think working is pretty easy to define: A free society where people take responsibility for their actions, and tax dollars aren't wasted on things that are completely unsuccessful. T -- -jmg Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit. Henry Brooks Adams [1838-1918]
Re: [H] gas and drugs???
When intel and apple merge will they still be evil? On 8/25/05, Jim Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What about the evil Intel empire? SCO lawsuit? Something more tech then gas and buds please -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.14/79 - Release Date: 8/22/2005 -- -jmg Chaos often breeds life, when order breeds habit. Henry Brooks Adams [1838-1918]
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See what foamy has to say: http://www.illwillpress.com/drugs.html a little humor, Al
Foamy's Rants was Re: [H] Gas prices
Ah, the ever crazy Foamy's rants! This guy is a comedy genius but should of had Pilz-E in on that one also. LOL Al wrote: See what foamy has to say: http://www.illwillpress.com/drugs.html a little humor, Al
Re: Foamy's Rants was Re: [H] Gas prices
warpmedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ah, the ever crazy Foamy's rants! This guy is a comedy genius but should of had Pilz-E in on that one also. LOL Hooked on cream cheese :) Al
Re: [H] Weird one for you...
Thanks! joeuser wrote: I'm looking for a red LED that flashes about once a minute and is powered by 2 AA batteries. I got one from a display box that was used for a web camera or something. It's on a pretty small board. I'd like something just like it. Where do you find something like this? -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Voice over IP
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: Anyone here using VOIP? I am thinking about signing up with Vonage, are there other providers I should consider? I use Vonage and have been happy with them, recently I think they've been going through growing pains as there has been notices on thier webpages saying outgoing calls may not be completing, but I havn't encountered the outgoing call issue. If you end up doing a vonage account you should have someone refer you, they have a pretty good referal program (2 months free for referer, and 1 month free for referee if I remember correctly. I'm not familiar with any other VoIP provider's service though. I've been really happy with Vonage. Christopher Fisk
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The only drawback to VoIP phone is reception of faxes. One solution would be to use efax.com or the local Kinkos. Thanks to unmentionable technology we can track (including Echelon) VoIP calls just like POTS lines. 007. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Christopher Fisk Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:24 PM To: The Hardware List Subject: Re: [H] Voice over IP On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, Gary Udstrand wrote: Anyone here using VOIP? I am thinking about signing up with Vonage, are there other providers I should consider? I use Vonage and have been happy with them, recently I think they've been going through growing pains as there has been notices on thier webpages saying outgoing calls may not be completing, but I havn't encountered the outgoing call issue. If you end up doing a vonage account you should have someone refer you, they have a pretty good referal program (2 months free for referer, and 1 month free for referee if I remember correctly. I'm not familiar with any other VoIP provider's service though. I've been really happy with Vonage. Christopher Fisk
[H] MS antispyware ?
any good ?
testing now but too early to have a opinion ( about this anyway {)(
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Re: [H] MS antispyware ?
very good
From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri Aug 26 16:30:20 CDT 2005
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] MS antispyware ?
any good ?
testing now but too early to have a opinion ( about this anyway {)(
fp
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Re: [H] Weird one for you...
Hosfelt has a red blinking LED for $.55 each: http://www.hosfelt.com/en-us/dept_214.html but I doubt the interval is one minute. They also have a Dual Color Bright Green/Blinking Red LED depending upon the polarity, for $1.49 Vince
Re: [H] MS antispyware ?
have run it on 3 boxen, seems very nice so far.
have been disappointed in spysweeper since version 4
thanks
At 02:56 PM 8/26/2005, Ben Ruset Poked the stick with:
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From: FORC5 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri Aug 26 16:30:20 CDT 2005
To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Subject: [H] MS antispyware ?
any good ?
testing now but too early to have a opinion ( about this anyway
{)(
fp
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Tallyho ! ]:8)
Taglines below !
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A hen tomorrow is more valuable than an egg today.
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Re: [H] MS antispyware ?
Why? FORC5 wrote: have been disappointed in spysweeper since version 4 -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key)
Re: [H] Gas prices
Me? I thought you were the condescending one. Anyway, go to walmart, costco, etc. and look at the price of generic drugs. You can get 200 generic excedrine for $4. 400 generic aleve for ~$8. Generic claritin is similarly priced. It's the drugs on patent that are ridiculously priced. So again, regardless of whatever mythical difference you may try to cook up, alcohol prohibition and drug prohibition are exactly the same. Ending said prohibition will have the same results as it did the last time. Julian At 11:15 PM 8/25/2005, you wrote: Like all the other drugs from Pharmaceutical companies? Now, that is a good one. Add to it all the taxes that are sure to be imposed and all of the legal obligation that comes from being part of the delivery chain. Low prices are a dream. BTW, do you always find it necessary to be so condescending? -Gary
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No I don't think that the drug laws have a significant effect on consumption. I know quite a few people who indulge in a variety of drugs on a regular basis, regardless of the laws. I also know of high school students getting high on OTC drugs, which is certainly worse than smoking a little weed, and that is a direct negative result of current drug laws. Assuming for a moment that you are correct, and 2x as many people start smoking MJ, who gives a shit? The effects are not particularly different than drinking alcohol, except that one is a lot less prone to go out and get into trouble. The ultimate question, however, is what business is it of yours if your neighbor smokes pot? In what way does it harm you? Julian PS: It's not fear of reprisal, it's just that they got over it. Almost every single person I know has smoked weed at some point in their lives. Some give it up, some don't. Some use it responsibly, some don't. None of them seem particularly hurt by it. At 11:25 PM 8/25/2005, you wrote: I am none of the below and thanks for making it about me. I always enjoy ad hominem attacks, it is a sign of a weak position. The last thing I believe is that the government is always right, you could not be further from the truth. I am also not the product of any warped era (whatever that is).I am also not an addict, never have been. I will ask you the same thing, you don't think punishment does not deter drug use? That is just plain silly. If mary jane were legal and sold at the local drug store there would be at least 2x as many people smoking it. You think some of those who are not smoking might be abstaining because of fear of reprisals? LOL -Gary
Re: [H] MS antispyware ?
keeps popping up a warning about added favorites that are not new. Webroot has sent me two newer builds, better but still no cigar. I find it odd also they do not post new builds when you check for program updates, you have to complain then they send u a link. New builds should be a program update IMO At 04:11 PM 8/26/2005, joeuser Poked the stick with: Why? FORC5 wrote: have been disappointed in spysweeper since version 4 -- Cheers, joeuser (still looking for the 'any' key) -- Tallyho ! ]:8) Taglines below ! -- Men die and worms eat them - but not for love.
[H] Alternative energy, was gas, became pot
Dave Gibney Pullman, WA This has been a serious digression from my original point. The prime problem with fuel cells is contamination. They have fuel cells that will us gasoline, but it needs to be purer than what's available, or the membranes foul. Straight methane will catalyze to H2O and CO2 with no waste or fouling. So for that matter would any of the ethanol, methanol, etc. available from digesting vegetation, which becomes compost, which helps fertilize the next crop. Ignoring for the moment all legalization of psychoactive hemp, industrial hemp grows clean and fast and has a multitude of uses. And believe me, you can smoke all you what and not get high. The stupidity of keeping hemp illegal because the government (cops are) to stupid to tell the difference is preventing the use of a potentially valuable commodity, and keeping Dupont's profit margin up. And the oil could be put to better use making plastic for computer cases and other parts. (topic?:) gibney wrote: Industrial hemp, digested to methane and powering fuel cells.
