Re: [H] Monitor color temp..........

2006-06-17 Thread Winterlight

Here is a chart that I found some time ago
Color Temperature Light Source
1000-2000 K  Candlelight
2500-3500 K  Tungsten Bulb (household variety)
3000-4000 K  Sunrise/Sunset (clear sky)
4000-5000 K  Fluorescent Lamps
5000-5500 K  Electronic Flash
5000-6500 K  Daylight with Clear Sky (sun overhead)
6500-8000 K  Moderately Overcast Sky
9000-1 K  Shade or Heavily Overcast Sky
http://www.cambridgeincolour.com/tutorials/white-balance.htm

At 09:02 AM 6/17/2006, you wrote:

Hmm

Have had my LCD set at 5400K since I got it.  Just changed to 6500K and
now it looks bright and bluish to me...  :)

Guess 5400K is supposed to be normal average mid-day sunlight,  which is
what I set mine for, but the wikipedia says I should be using 6500K since
the sRGB standard is based on it.

Hmm..  Guess I will leave it and see what it looks like for a while.  :)

What all do you guys use for day to day use?




Re: [H] RE: Dell restore disks - WAS: Dell's remote assistance

2006-06-17 Thread Ben Ruset
Yeah, except there is an economy of scale to deal with. We'll get to a 
point where I can't (or won't want to) assemble as many barebones boxes 
as I will need, and all of the whitebox vendors in Manhattan that I have 
seen thusfar have been chop shops.


Additionally, if my company were to get acquired, our CIO believes that 
the acquiring company will care what sort of infrastructure we've 
standardized on. As he claims "nobody ever got fired for buying a Dell."


Personal use? My next laptop will either be a Macbook or the Asus W7V.

joeuser wrote:

The best way though is not to do business with Dell at all.

Ben Ruset wrote:


You're lucky.

I ordered "Restore Disks" for my laptop. Actually I order them for all 
of the systems we buy in house.


The restore disk consists of an OEM install of XP (good) and a driver 
disk. It does *not* include any sort of DVD viewing software or CD 
burning software that the system ships with from Dell.


I called up my Dell sales rep, and was told "well, those are bundled 
free, so if you format the drive, you're SOL. we don't even have SKU's 
for them."


I called bullshit, and escalated it all the way up to Michael Dell's 
office. (For those curious, emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a 
*great* way of getting problems solved with Dell if you're a decent 
sized corporate customer.)


It took two weeks, but they finally found me some media. I got a 
rockin copy of Easy CD Creator 5 and an equally ancient copy of 
WinDVD. :(


Which is why I think I am going barebones for any new PC purchases at 
work. Or maybe I will switch everyone to Mac Mini's. :)


Bobby Heid wrote:

I bought my daughter a Dell laptop for graduation.  The default is to 
not
include a restore disk.  Well, on this particular order, there was 
not an
option to purchase a recovery disk ($10).  So after ordering the 
laptop, I
called them up to purchase the disk and the guy told me I did not 
need one
because it was on the system (wasting space I might add).  I told him 
that
was just great, but what was I to do when the HD crashed?  He did not 
have
an answer for me and promptly shipped me the disks.  On top of that, 
I was

not charged for them!  :)

Bobby

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Restore disk baby! More Dell propaganda please... it amuses me.








[H] Monitor color temp..........

2006-06-17 Thread JRS
Hmm

Have had my LCD set at 5400K since I got it.  Just changed to 6500K and
now it looks bright and bluish to me...  :)

Guess 5400K is supposed to be normal average mid-day sunlight,  which is
what I set mine for, but the wikipedia says I should be using 6500K since
the sRGB standard is based on it.   

Hmm..  Guess I will leave it and see what it looks like for a while.  :)

What all do you guys use for day to day use?



Desktop publishing
In the desktop publishing industry, it is important to know your monitor’s
color temperature. Color matching software, such as ColorSync will measure
your monitor's color temperature and then adjust your monitor’s settings
accordingly. This enables on-screen color to more closely match printed
color. Common monitor color temperatures are as follows:

5000K (D50), 5500K (D55), 6500K (D65), 7500K (D75) and 9300K.

General computer-users should set their PC monitor color-temperature to
"sRGB" or "6500K", as this is what digital cameras, web graphics, and DVDs
etc are normally designed for. Indeed the sRGB standard stipulates (among
other things) a 6500K display whitepoint.
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Re: [H] RE: Dell restore disks - WAS: Dell's remote assistance

2006-06-17 Thread Anthony Q. Martin

Dell is a nightmare to do business with.  IMO, BTW.

joeuser wrote:

The best way though is not to do business with Dell at all.

Ben Ruset wrote:


You're lucky.

I ordered "Restore Disks" for my laptop. Actually I order them for 
all of the systems we buy in house.


The restore disk consists of an OEM install of XP (good) and a driver 
disk. It does *not* include any sort of DVD viewing software or CD 
burning software that the system ships with from Dell.


I called up my Dell sales rep, and was told "well, those are bundled 
free, so if you format the drive, you're SOL. we don't even have 
SKU's for them."


I called bullshit, and escalated it all the way up to Michael Dell's 
office. (For those curious, emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a 
*great* way of getting problems solved with Dell if you're a decent 
sized corporate customer.)


It took two weeks, but they finally found me some media. I got a 
rockin copy of Easy CD Creator 5 and an equally ancient copy of 
WinDVD. :(


Which is why I think I am going barebones for any new PC purchases at 
work. Or maybe I will switch everyone to Mac Mini's. :)


Bobby Heid wrote:

I bought my daughter a Dell laptop for graduation.  The default is 
to not
include a restore disk.  Well, on this particular order, there was 
not an
option to purchase a recovery disk ($10).  So after ordering the 
laptop, I
called them up to purchase the disk and the guy told me I did not 
need one
because it was on the system (wasting space I might add).  I told 
him that
was just great, but what was I to do when the HD crashed?  He did 
not have
an answer for me and promptly shipped me the disks.  On top of that, 
I was

not charged for them!  :)

Bobby

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Subject: Re: [H] Dell's remote assistance


Restore disk baby! More Dell propaganda please... it amuses me.








Re: [H] RE: Dell restore disks - WAS: Dell's remote assistance

2006-06-17 Thread joeuser

The best way though is not to do business with Dell at all.

Ben Ruset wrote:


You're lucky.

I ordered "Restore Disks" for my laptop. Actually I order them for all 
of the systems we buy in house.


The restore disk consists of an OEM install of XP (good) and a driver 
disk. It does *not* include any sort of DVD viewing software or CD 
burning software that the system ships with from Dell.


I called up my Dell sales rep, and was told "well, those are bundled 
free, so if you format the drive, you're SOL. we don't even have SKU's 
for them."


I called bullshit, and escalated it all the way up to Michael Dell's 
office. (For those curious, emailing [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a *great* 
way of getting problems solved with Dell if you're a decent sized 
corporate customer.)


It took two weeks, but they finally found me some media. I got a rockin 
copy of Easy CD Creator 5 and an equally ancient copy of WinDVD. :(


Which is why I think I am going barebones for any new PC purchases at 
work. Or maybe I will switch everyone to Mac Mini's. :)


Bobby Heid wrote:


I bought my daughter a Dell laptop for graduation.  The default is to not
include a restore disk.  Well, on this particular order, there was not an
option to purchase a recovery disk ($10).  So after ordering the 
laptop, I
called them up to purchase the disk and the guy told me I did not need 
one
because it was on the system (wasting space I might add).  I told him 
that
was just great, but what was I to do when the HD crashed?  He did not 
have
an answer for me and promptly shipped me the disks.  On top of that, I 
was

not charged for them!  :)

Bobby

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Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 2:58 AM
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Subject: Re: [H] Dell's remote assistance


Restore disk baby! More Dell propaganda please... it amuses me.






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Re: [H] RE: Dell restore disks - WAS: Dell's remote assistance

2006-06-17 Thread joeuser
I think they have put something in the water Stories seems to be the 
same way. OMG Dell is awesome. While un afflicted people (like Thane and 
I) scratch our heads. Reminds me of Eddie Murphy and when he talks about 
the guy starving in the desert. Guy gives him a regular old - saltine 
cracker and the guy is like "OMG this is the best damn cracker ever, is 
this a ritz?" Yeah these dell stories are great. So many starving folks 
though - makes me sad.


Thane Sherrington wrote:


At 07:25 AM 16/06/2006, Bobby Heid wrote:


I bought my daughter a Dell laptop for graduation.  The default is to not
include a restore disk.  Well, on this particular order, there was not an
option to purchase a recovery disk ($10).  So after ordering the 
laptop, I
called them up to purchase the disk and the guy told me I did not need 
one
because it was on the system (wasting space I might add).  I told him 
that
was just great, but what was I to do when the HD crashed?  He did not 
have
an answer for me and promptly shipped me the disks.  On top of that, I 
was

not charged for them!  :)



I wouldn't see that as great customer service.  They neglected to give 
you a recovery CD, and when you called them and pointed that out, they 
gave you one.  Recovery CDs with the system is a minimum service level.  
Forcing you to call, convince them that you need one and then sending 
one out takes them below minimum.  It's ridiculous, and a great example 
of how they try to take their customers.  If you hadn't been a savvy 
customer, you never would have gotten the CD.


T



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