[H] Accessing Windows remotely

2009-10-22 Thread Thane Sherrington
In Unix, I can access the box remotely in a separate screen so that 
the local user can't see what I'm doing and can continue to use the 
system.  Is there a way to do this in Windows?  (I don't think there 
is, since Windows isn't really multi-user, but I figured I'd ask.)


T




Re: [H] Accessing Windows remotely

2009-10-22 Thread Brian Weeden
Sure - use Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and log into a different account
than the one the user is logged into.

And of course windows is multi-user - where did you get the idea it wasn't?

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Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Thane Sherrington 
th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote:

 In Unix, I can access the box remotely in a separate screen so that the
 local user can't see what I'm doing and can continue to use the system.  Is
 there a way to do this in Windows?  (I don't think there is, since Windows
 isn't really multi-user, but I figured I'd ask.)

 T





Re: [H] Accessing Windows remotely

2009-10-22 Thread Thane Sherrington

At 11:59 AM 22/10/2009, Brian Weeden wrote:

Sure - use Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and log into a different account
than the one the user is logged into.


Ok, thanks.  I wasn't sure if that would work, or if I'd end up 
taking over their account.




And of course windows is multi-user - where did you get the idea it wasn't?


Some Unix guy once told me (rather gloatingly) that Windows XP wasn't 
really multi-user.  But thinking about it, that doesn't make sense, 
since you can have multiple users open and running simultaneously.


T 





Re: [H] Accessing Windows remotely

2009-10-22 Thread Scott Sipe

Are there any major versions of windows you can do this on?

I know on our Windows Server 2003 server with Terminal Services  
enabled we can connect multiple users, but on XP pro (version I'm most  
familiar with) you can't have one user logged on locally and another  
remote desktop user--it's one or the other? When the Remote Desktop  
user connects, the local screen blanks, and if you're logging on as a  
new user, the current session gets logged off first.


If there's a way to get around this, I'd love to hear it!

Scott

On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Brian Weeden wrote:

Sure - use Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and log into a different  
account

than the one the user is logged into.

And of course windows is multi-user - where did you get the idea it  
wasn't?


---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Thane Sherrington 
th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote:

In Unix, I can access the box remotely in a separate screen so that  
the
local user can't see what I'm doing and can continue to use the  
system.  Is
there a way to do this in Windows?  (I don't think there is, since  
Windows

isn't really multi-user, but I figured I'd ask.)

T







Re: [H] Accessing Windows remotely

2009-10-22 Thread Brian Weeden
You're right - the bastards at Microsoft have disabled the multiple
concurrent users capability for XP, Vista, and Win 7 and it's only available
as a feature in Server 2003.  They justify it by saying it is a feature that
only business users want, which is crap - obviously they are just looking
for some features to justify the extra money for Server.

Fortunately, you can easily re-enable it.  Here's how to do it in Windows
Vista, Windows 7 Beta, and Windows 7 RTM:

http://www.missingremote.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=3293Itemid=232

And for Windows XP SP3:

http://alonbilu.wordpress.com/2008/05/17/enabling-multiple-concurrent-remote-sessions-on-windows-xp-sp3-patched-file-included/

---
Brian Weeden
Technical Advisor
Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
Montreal Office
+1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
+1 (202) 683-8534 US


On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Scott Sipe csco...@gmail.com wrote:

 Are there any major versions of windows you can do this on?

 I know on our Windows Server 2003 server with Terminal Services enabled we
 can connect multiple users, but on XP pro (version I'm most familiar with)
 you can't have one user logged on locally and another remote desktop
 user--it's one or the other? When the Remote Desktop user connects, the
 local screen blanks, and if you're logging on as a new user, the current
 session gets logged off first.

 If there's a way to get around this, I'd love to hear it!

 Scott

 On Oct 22, 2009, at 10:59 AM, Brian Weeden wrote:

  Sure - use Remote Desktop Protocol (RDP) and log into a different account
 than the one the user is logged into.

 And of course windows is multi-user - where did you get the idea it
 wasn't?

 ---
 Brian Weeden
 Technical Advisor
 Secure World Foundation http://www.secureworldfoundation.org
 Montreal Office
 +1 (514) 466-2756 Canada
 +1 (202) 683-8534 US


 On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Thane Sherrington 
 th...@computerconnectionltd.com wrote:

  In Unix, I can access the box remotely in a separate screen so that the
 local user can't see what I'm doing and can continue to use the system.
  Is
 there a way to do this in Windows?  (I don't think there is, since
 Windows
 isn't really multi-user, but I figured I'd ask.)

 T







[H] Windows 7 install

2009-10-22 Thread Tony Riederer
I am wondering if there is any problems or special things that need to be
done here. I have Vista Ultimate 64 on one of my puters. I have Windows 7
Pro from my school that I would like to install on the same machine and dual
boot them. It is not an upgrade edition. Just wondering if anyone knows if
there is a certain way to do this.

TIA

Anthony



Re: [H] Windows 7 install

2009-10-22 Thread Rick Glazier

My first guess would be you would need a third party
OS Bootloader Program to sort this all out.

Acronis has that as part of the Disk Director Suite, and
there is a freeware one that sounds like GAG (or something).
(Not an inpriring name for something this important... grin)

Rick Glazier

From: Tony Riederer

I am wondering if there is any problems or special things that need to be
done here. I have Vista Ultimate 64 on one of my puters. I have Windows 7
Pro from my school that I would like to install on the same machine and dual
boot them. It is not an upgrade edition. Just wondering if anyone knows if
there is a certain way to do this.


Re: [H] Accessing Windows remotely

2009-10-22 Thread Rick Glazier

It is a shame they put eveything in there anymore, more overhead for
me and my HD (hardware) and then hold it hostage for more money.
Thanks for the tip.

Rick Glazier

From: Brian Weeden

You're right - the bastards at Microsoft have disabled the multiple
concurrent users capability for XP, Vista, and Win 7 and it's only available
as a feature in Server 2003.  They justify it by saying it is a feature that
only business users want, which is crap - obviously they are just looking
for some features to justify the extra money for Server.

Fortunately, you can easily re-enable it.  Here's how to do it in Windows
Vista, Windows 7 Beta, and Windows 7 RTM:

http://www.missingremote.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=3293Itemid=232

And for Windows XP SP3:

http://alonbilu.wordpress.com/2008/05/17/enabling-multiple-concurrent-remote-sessions-on-windows-xp-sp3-patched-file-included/

---
Brian Weeden




Re: [H] Windows 7 install

2009-10-22 Thread Jamie Furtner
I dual-booted the Beta and Vista with no issues for a while - just make 
sure to install to another drive or partition. 
http://lifehacker.com/5126781/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-with-xp-or-vista


Windows includes a boot loader and will automatically add Vista and 
Windows 7 to the list and let you pick and choose. You don't need a 
third party one.


Jamie


Rick Glazier wrote:

My first guess would be you would need a third party
OS Bootloader Program to sort this all out.

Acronis has that as part of the Disk Director Suite, and
there is a freeware one that sounds like GAG (or something).
(Not an inpriring name for something this important... grin)

Rick Glazier

From: Tony Riederer
I am wondering if there is any problems or special things that need 
to be
done here. I have Vista Ultimate 64 on one of my puters. I have 
Windows 7
Pro from my school that I would like to install on the same machine 
and dual
boot them. It is not an upgrade edition. Just wondering if anyone 
knows if

there is a certain way to do this.




--
Jamie Furtner ja...@furtner.ca
I aim to misbehave
- Malcom Reynolds (Serenity movie)
It's not safe...
For them.
- River Tam (Serenity movie)



Re: [H] Windows 7 install

2009-10-22 Thread Rick Glazier

I must have been in too much a hurry when I read the original question.
I admit, my answer makes no sense.
Somehow I assumed they would be on the same partition not the same machine.

Rick Glazier


- Original Message - 
From: Jamie Furtner ja...@furtner.ca

To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2009 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: [H] Windows 7 install


I dual-booted the Beta and Vista with no issues for a while - just make 
sure to install to another drive or partition. 
http://lifehacker.com/5126781/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-with-xp-or-vista


Windows includes a boot loader and will automatically add Vista and 
Windows 7 to the list and let you pick and choose. You don't need a 
third party one.


Jamie


Rick Glazier wrote:

My first guess would be you would need a third party
OS Bootloader Program to sort this all out.

Acronis has that as part of the Disk Director Suite, and
there is a freeware one that sounds like GAG (or something).
(Not an inpriring name for something this important... grin)

Rick Glazier

From: Tony Riederer
I am wondering if there is any problems or special things that need 
to be
done here. I have Vista Ultimate 64 on one of my puters. I have 
Windows 7
Pro from my school that I would like to install on the same machine 
and dual
boot them. It is not an upgrade edition. Just wondering if anyone 
knows if

there is a certain way to do this.




--
Jamie Furtner ja...@furtner.ca
I aim to misbehave
- Malcom Reynolds (Serenity movie)
It's not safe...
For them.
- River Tam (Serenity movie)